Every EV video I see has 10 comments claiming you’ll have the repeatedly replace the battery, yet every “my Tesla has 150,000 miles on it” video is like “yeah original battery and still get 90% of the range, it’s great!” Love to see these cars age pretty well!
To be fair, I have seen some cars go to like 300,000 or above and never have issues, and then I've seen some that are replaced 3 times before 100,000 miles. so its kind hit or miss from what I have seen for the battery.
I have a 2018 3 performance with 180,000 miles in Cali. 99% supercharged. I haven’t tracked it as much as Kyle. My degradation is around 11%. Definitely not 15%. A used version of this car is the bargain of the century.
I picked up a new Model Y Long Range 2 months ago and was seriously debating getting the performance. However, I decided that long term the extra 30 miles of range would mean a lot as the battery degrades and 0-60 in 4.8 seconds is damn fast already. I am able to pass people on one lane roads as though they're standing still and 95% of the time, I drive "normally" anyway. I didn't think the performance was practical, the range was more important.
add $2K boost We did. 21 LR Y w 72K miles. 4.2 is noticeable Vs wife’s 23 LR Y w 10K miles. The pull lasts longer. Nice compromise nicer ride vs performance 20” wheels.
I am disappointed that the cooling valve is not yet replaced. Would be nice to see how it actually performs in warmer weather road trips at this high mileage without the valve issue when charging.
I love my ‘21 M3 SR+. Best bang for the buck. Plenty speedy and powerful enough to get me in trouble! 😂 I’ve got nearly 40k miles on it and they have been trouble free miles. Just got a new set of Nokian ONE tyres installed about 2k miles ago, and loving those. My efficiency has improved over the stock Michelin’s from 237 wh/mi to 231 wh/mi since the new rubber. No complaints there. I’ve been up and down and all around, including a 5,500 mile round trip from Sacramento CA to Louisville KY in this car, and love it! I’m so glad Jordan mentioned the capacity in the M3. It is amazing! My wife, our two teenage boys (14 and 16) and myself have gone in vacations of 2 weeks in the M3. All of our luggage, along with a Modern Spare tire and charge cable and adaptors and tire inflator and cleaning gear and more, has fit in the frunk, the trunk and the sub trunk - leaving the passenger cabin just for hoomans! Sweet! Great video! BEAK has many miles left and it’s great to get these updates!
Came here hoping to get a comprehensive review of Cost of Ownership for a higher-mileage Tesla (I own a 2020 Model3). - 140K miles might be high for a Tesla but compared to other brands like Toyota...not really (speaking from experience as former Toyota & Lexus owner) - So the repairs/items needing repair include: - Cracked top glass panel - why is it cracked and what's the replacement cost? - RH upper control arm - LH upper control arm appears to need replacement - "Suspension has also been replaced" -- what exactly was replaced? - Missing underbody panels (that apparently are affecting aerodynamics and vehicle range) -- what's the cost? - "Cooling is a little bit compromised", "coolant valve issue" -- sounds like this needs repair, too -- how much? Would really like to know how much these repairs cost? Hearing all this, I'm not feeling great about the future longevity of my own car....
Man in 4 years this car has lots of problems. I have an old Acura and has held up until now with 180k. The only malfunction is one seat doesn't heat up plus one day light fuse. It's shocking to see how of a low expectations you guys have by been impressed with this.
Tesla has been making vehicles since 2008, while Honda has been making vehicles since 1946. The difference in years of experience is important here because you still have broken parts in a machine with almost 100 years of experience. This brand is still in its infancy and is breaking barriers.
@@MadisonFalco I understand, but we shouldn't be praising them for a mediocre job. We should be pushing them to do better. Tesla is charging for premium quality cars while giving Kia quality car from 10 years ago.
I bought a 2018 model 3 dual motor with acceleration boost, 80k miles, $25k. It does 0-60 3.5s (draggy), plus I’m getting pge/irs rebates, it should be under $20k after rebates, which is a bargain for the performance and efficiency. Only issues I had is upper control arms and lower control arms. Note: Early 2018 model 3 dual motor had same rear motor as performance model, it’s literally software locked, acceleration boost unlocks most of it, just initial 0-30mph is slower, after about 50-60mph it’s the same as performance with acceleration boost.
Great video guys. Glad to see a high mileage vehicle with its original battery 👍🏼 interesting to see it has a much higher percentage of supercharging than my Model Y.
Good video guys! Great review on current wear and tear. I don’t understand why people put their dogs in these cars. Hope Kyle doesn’t destroy his dad’s Model X.
Just looking at the price scale, if you want the performance and don't mind used, the sweet spot seems to be mid 30s. There's one locally I see for 36k that is a 2021 w/ ccs/heat pump/fsd/37k miles. That's a decent value over new especially if can't figure out a way to claim that new tax credit. You can get a 2018/19 down in to the upper 20s but I'm just not sure the value is there with the later improvements for not that much more money.
Great point 3:24 there should be a metric in the diagnostics that can show a user or potential new owner what percentage of kwh charged where L1, L2, or L3 (supercharging). This intel will be key to help sell EVs in the used car market.
Which this car has a much higher percentage of supercharging than my Model Y that has had 2 replacement packs. Everyone assumes mine was primarily supercharged from my video even though I talked about charging mostly at home.
I'm surprised that you get much range with the heat set to 74º and 73º and no heat pump. I usually keep mine at 64º or 66º because I have a 2018 Model 3 Dual Motor and the heater pulls a lot of kilowatts of power. I would love to have a heat pump, but not enough to get a new car to pay for.
I just came from a video which someone had to replace their battery twice before they even hit 100K miles! So what is it? Does anyone have actual stats on how often these batteries take a shit and need to get replaced!? This is the only thing keeping me from buying a Tesla…
Just junk it and collect $12K to salvage. I'm only in for $17K on 29K used 2019 SR+ I drive less than 4,000 miles per year so I expect no problem escape death (mine).
all these ice cars LOL yes I agree a lot!! I hope BEAK gets fixed (steering rack)!! It's amazing from my silly leaf in the same year, with only 42k miles and this one with lots of fast charing and MILES holy cow! this is exciting! I see more epic road trips a head!! (gets more than my leaf) 😉
I believe the original white seats are better than the 2023 version I have at least in easy cleaning. I have heard other comment on this on the newer white seats.
The false assumption that supercharging is bad for your battery persists. The research is done, the studies concluded. Supercharging DOES NOT negatively impact battery life. Driving like a maniac and flooring it over and over does though. Would never consider a performance model ever. Bad drivers.
That noise is just upper control arm, there is revision part number is 1288326-00-A right and left 1288321-00-A. Mine made same noise when it was cold. New part is all metal no plastic like old upper controls arms, even 2022 still has old revision control arms.
It’s been a while since you posted this video, but I’d like to know whether you would recommend a buyer look for a used 2021-2022 Model 3 or Y. I’m kind of freaked out by the recent price drops! 😮
Thanks for the video! I am looking at buying my first EV and tesla (been a fan since 2016) and am a car enthusiast so I want a performance to get track mode etc. Looking at 2018 Model 3 P stealth with around 80-90k miles, that way I have some powertrain warranty until 2026 and 120k miles. Hoping to get one under 25k next year to get that 4k tax credit at POS. I am very budget constrained as I am an engineering college student that wants to escape a money pit gas car Ive had since I was 16. Hoping prices will come down if highland comes to NA next year maybe. What do you guys think about something like this versus a 2017 Model S 100D? I love Model S hatchback, comfort, and looks but wont be as quick or fun. Air suspension scares me at high milage though.
for the rest of the world: The biggest reasons the U.S. hasn’t adopted the metric system are simply time and money. When the Industrial Revolution began in the country, expensive manufacturing plants became a main source of American jobs and consumer products. Because the Imperial System (IS) of measurements was in place at this time, the machinery used in these factories was developed to size in IS units; all of the workers were trained to deal with IS units; and many products were made to feature IS units. Whenever the discussion of switching unit systems arose in Congress, the passage of a bill favoring the metric system was thwarted by big businesses and American citizens who didn’t want to go through the time-consuming and expensive hassle of changing the country’s entire infrastructure. Many also believed that the United States should keep its particular system, setting it apart from other countries and symbolizing its status as a leader rather than a follower. -britannica
Every EV video I see has 10 comments claiming you’ll have the repeatedly replace the battery, yet every “my Tesla has 150,000 miles on it” video is like “yeah original battery and still get 90% of the range, it’s great!”
Love to see these cars age pretty well!
All people who probably never even sat in one
To be fair, I have seen some cars go to like 300,000 or above and never have issues, and then I've seen some that are replaced 3 times before 100,000 miles. so its kind hit or miss from what I have seen for the battery.
How many miles now ?
I have a 2018 3 performance with 180,000 miles in Cali. 99% supercharged. I haven’t tracked it as much as Kyle. My degradation is around 11%. Definitely not 15%. A used version of this car is the bargain of the century.
Looking at a 2022 with 80k miles for $22,000
@@frankboy619man can’t wait till I’m able to work full time to get smth like that
Original battery at 180k miles? Nice!
@@frankboy619 Just bought one 1 2017 Long range with 67k for 18k it's awesome!
@@AS-gf5jn Congrats. I have 2018 LR AWD with 66k, feels like it will last forever
I picked up a new Model Y Long Range 2 months ago and was seriously debating getting the performance. However, I decided that long term the extra 30 miles of range would mean a lot as the battery degrades and 0-60 in 4.8 seconds is damn fast already. I am able to pass people on one lane roads as though they're standing still and 95% of the time, I drive "normally" anyway. I didn't think the performance was practical, the range was more important.
You made a great choice.
Model y Long range vs performance have the same battery pack
Same range lol. Different size wheels is the 3o mile difference . P is better
add $2K boost We did. 21 LR Y w 72K miles. 4.2 is noticeable Vs wife’s 23 LR Y w 10K miles. The pull lasts longer. Nice compromise nicer ride vs performance 20” wheels.
I am disappointed that the cooling valve is not yet replaced. Would be nice to see how it actually performs in warmer weather road trips at this high mileage without the valve issue when charging.
I love my ‘21 M3 SR+. Best bang for the buck. Plenty speedy and powerful enough to get me in trouble! 😂
I’ve got nearly 40k miles on it and they have been trouble free miles. Just got a new set of Nokian ONE tyres installed about 2k miles ago, and loving those. My efficiency has improved over the stock Michelin’s from 237 wh/mi to 231 wh/mi since the new rubber. No complaints there.
I’ve been up and down and all around, including a 5,500 mile round trip from Sacramento CA to Louisville KY in this car, and love it!
I’m so glad Jordan mentioned the capacity in the M3. It is amazing! My wife, our two teenage boys (14 and 16) and myself have gone in vacations of 2 weeks in the M3. All of our luggage, along with a Modern Spare tire and charge cable and adaptors and tire inflator and cleaning gear and more, has fit in the frunk, the trunk and the sub trunk - leaving the passenger cabin just for hoomans! Sweet!
Great video! BEAK has many miles left and it’s great to get these updates!
I just bought a 2020 Tesla model 3 performance looks just like this one. I absolutely love mine at 40000 miles.
Serviceable, fixable battery rather than replace the entire set is essential. The GM Ultium may offer that.
But still Ultium is massively overvalued marketing stunt by GM. No real or true value for the buyer or the car.
Ultium will HAVE to because IT WILL FAIL.
Came here hoping to get a comprehensive review of Cost of Ownership for a higher-mileage Tesla (I own a 2020 Model3).
- 140K miles might be high for a Tesla but compared to other brands like Toyota...not really (speaking from experience as former Toyota & Lexus owner)
- So the repairs/items needing repair include:
- Cracked top glass panel - why is it cracked and what's the replacement cost?
- RH upper control arm
- LH upper control arm appears to need replacement
- "Suspension has also been replaced" -- what exactly was replaced?
- Missing underbody panels (that apparently are affecting aerodynamics and vehicle range) -- what's the cost?
- "Cooling is a little bit compromised", "coolant valve issue" -- sounds like this needs repair, too -- how much?
Would really like to know how much these repairs cost? Hearing all this, I'm not feeling great about the future longevity of my own car....
Man in 4 years this car has lots of problems. I have an old Acura and has held up until now with 180k. The only malfunction is one seat doesn't heat up plus one day light fuse. It's shocking to see how of a low expectations you guys have by been impressed with this.
Have a 2018 with 117k miles. No problems. Only dealt with tires and a 12 volt battery. Going strong still have 299 mile range out of the 310 when new.
Tesla has been making vehicles since 2008, while Honda has been making vehicles since 1946. The difference in years of experience is important here because you still have broken parts in a machine with almost 100 years of experience. This brand is still in its infancy and is breaking barriers.
@@RetroEliteGaming glad to hear a positive experience
@@MadisonFalco I understand, but we shouldn't be praising them for a mediocre job. We should be pushing them to do better. Tesla is charging for premium quality cars while giving Kia quality car from 10 years ago.
Thanks for these videos, guys! Really appreciate the insights. We're looking at used cars right now and considering jumping into the EV river.
I bought a 2018 model 3 dual motor with acceleration boost, 80k miles, $25k. It does 0-60 3.5s (draggy), plus I’m getting pge/irs rebates, it should be under $20k after rebates, which is a bargain for the performance and efficiency. Only issues I had is upper control arms and lower control arms. Note: Early 2018 model 3 dual motor had same rear motor as performance model, it’s literally software locked, acceleration boost unlocks most of it, just initial 0-30mph is slower, after about 50-60mph it’s the same as performance with acceleration boost.
Great video guys. Glad to see a high mileage vehicle with its original battery 👍🏼 interesting to see it has a much higher percentage of supercharging than my Model Y.
I also had a cracked top glass on my model 3 Tesla replaced it for $1000
Good video guys! Great review on current wear and tear. I don’t understand why people put their dogs in these cars. Hope Kyle doesn’t destroy his dad’s Model X.
Just looking at the price scale, if you want the performance and don't mind used, the sweet spot seems to be mid 30s. There's one locally I see for 36k that is a 2021 w/ ccs/heat pump/fsd/37k miles. That's a decent value over new especially if can't figure out a way to claim that new tax credit. You can get a 2018/19 down in to the upper 20s but I'm just not sure the value is there with the later improvements for not that much more money.
Great point 3:24 there should be a metric in the diagnostics that can show a user or potential new owner what percentage of kwh charged where L1, L2, or L3 (supercharging). This intel will be key to help sell EVs in the used car market.
Which this car has a much higher percentage of supercharging than my Model Y that has had 2 replacement packs. Everyone assumes mine was primarily supercharged from my video even though I talked about charging mostly at home.
Easily obtainable with apps like ScanMyTesla.
The cooling issue could be really accelerating battery deg if it really us running that long.
I’m actually more worried about time than mileage. Have 2 Teslas that I want to use for 10 years.
Mileage are important as the base problems are all related to suspension issues.
I'm surprised that you get much range with the heat set to 74º and 73º and no heat pump. I usually keep mine at 64º or 66º because I have a 2018 Model 3 Dual Motor and the heater pulls a lot of kilowatts of power. I would love to have a heat pump, but not enough to get a new car to pay for.
2016 nissan altima 244k
I just came from a video which someone had to replace their battery twice before they even hit 100K miles! So what is it? Does anyone have actual stats on how often these batteries take a shit and need to get replaced!? This is the only thing keeping me from buying a Tesla…
Just junk it and collect $12K to salvage. I'm only in for $17K on 29K used 2019 SR+ I drive less than 4,000 miles per year so I expect no problem escape death (mine).
I think we needed a track mode demonstration…
all these ice cars LOL yes I agree a lot!! I hope BEAK gets fixed (steering rack)!! It's amazing from my silly leaf in the same year, with only 42k miles and this one with lots of fast charing and MILES holy cow! this is exciting! I see more epic road trips a head!! (gets more than my leaf) 😉
I believe the original white seats are better than the 2023 version I have at least in easy cleaning. I have heard other comment on this on the newer white seats.
Great review boys🎉
I am so glad that he left the chrome alone, because I think that it looks rich. To me black looks unfinished.
The false assumption that supercharging is bad for your battery persists. The research is done, the studies concluded. Supercharging DOES NOT negatively impact battery life. Driving like a maniac and flooring it over and over does though. Would never consider a performance model ever. Bad drivers.
Usb ports dont work on a 4year old car? Why? Wth
It's a shame kyle hasn't kept up with his maintenance on that car....
washer fluid and tires for mine so far. Wiper blades lasting longer than tires, lol, but I did do 43K miles in one year
When did 140k become high mileage!? For Toyota's thats barely the break in period.
Those wheels are 🔥
The boss should do a viewers giveaway of this car.
Guys, I have a 2022 Tesla Model Y Long Range. I live in Omaha NE. I am looking for new All Season Tires. Do you have recommendations?
Thank you
Ive been dying to hear about mountainpass performamce suspension
That noise is just upper control arm, there is revision part number is 1288326-00-A right and left 1288321-00-A. Mine made same noise when it was cold. New part is all metal no plastic like old upper controls arms, even 2022 still has old revision control arms.
It’s been a while since you posted this video, but I’d like to know whether you would recommend a buyer look for a used 2021-2022 Model 3 or Y. I’m kind of freaked out by the recent price drops! 😮
Price drops are done. As long as $4k rebates are available at POS.
I wanna get my Tesla to 250k miles. Currently at 60k rn
Please fix and replace the cooling valve
Thanks for the video! I am looking at buying my first EV and tesla (been a fan since 2016) and am a car enthusiast so I want a performance to get track mode etc. Looking at 2018 Model 3 P stealth with around 80-90k miles, that way I have some powertrain warranty until 2026 and 120k miles. Hoping to get one under 25k next year to get that 4k tax credit at POS. I am very budget constrained as I am an engineering college student that wants to escape a money pit gas car Ive had since I was 16. Hoping prices will come down if highland comes to NA next year maybe. What do you guys think about something like this versus a 2017 Model S 100D? I love Model S hatchback, comfort, and looks but wont be as quick or fun. Air suspension scares me at high milage though.
what range did you keep the battery in ? Did you charge to 100 percent when supercharged?
Lol this is the opposite of what the other guy that works with you guys experienced. He replaced 3 batteries for a car just over 120k
What an idiot he is.
What month in 2019 was this vehicle built? There was a few key changes in 2019
Yeah, like they removed the Homelink in May 2019 !
nice
142K is not really that high mileage. There’s postings with Teslas same year that have 300K on i on CZcams.
Battery is my last concern.... bigger question is the motor(s) how well do they hold up if someones uses Ludicrous mode every day?
My 2016 Scion got 180,000 never been in the dealership not a big deal with mileage you have
FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD he actually means 228,526 KM, because there rest of the world isn't stuck in 1950s ways of measurement.
for the rest of the world:
The biggest reasons the U.S. hasn’t adopted the metric system are simply time and money. When the Industrial Revolution began in the country, expensive manufacturing plants became a main source of American jobs and consumer products. Because the Imperial System (IS) of measurements was in place at this time, the machinery used in these factories was developed to size in IS units; all of the workers were trained to deal with IS units; and many products were made to feature IS units. Whenever the discussion of switching unit systems arose in Congress, the passage of a bill favoring the metric system was thwarted by big businesses and American citizens who didn’t want to go through the time-consuming and expensive hassle of changing the country’s entire infrastructure. Many also believed that the United States should keep its particular system, setting it apart from other countries and symbolizing its status as a leader rather than a follower. -britannica
What's funny is, the "rest of the world"...... still says "mileage" when referring to distance. Think about it.....