Randy Couture Comments After UFC 118 Win Over James Toney - MMA Weekly News
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UFC legend Randy Couture spoke with the media following his UFC 118 win over boxer James Toney. Get more MMA and UFC news at the World's top MMA News website www.mmaweekly.com - Sport
It's all about delivery when you have the microphones and reporters in your face. Randy Couture spoke candidly about James Toney and offered a lot of criticism but in a professional manner. He could have easily stood there and said Toney is garbage and other remarks but kept it professional. Good for you sir!
The natural is a gentleman outside a tha ring yo
This Comment Section: If Randy played golf with Tiger Woods he would get fucked up.
Pretty much
This feller seems a very articulate and respectful man much respect
longtoothedparrot i had exactly the same reaction to his interview. he communicates very well. i also think 'respectfully declining' an opportunity to stand up and get pounded in the head by a guy that probably outweighs you by 50-75 (maybe more in toney's case) pounds is an intelligent choice.
carl wilburn They weigh about the same. Randy is just scared. Toney is man enough to get in a cage, Randy isn't man enough to get in a ring. Coward. He's a polite guy though.
@@MikeyDunksMusic no he's got something called common sense
@@Eric-lx8hp & toney had no sence 🤣
@@MikeyDunksMusicLol who tf WON?🥸
randy is ace. really humble guy and modest in his interview. the guy is legend
Props to the The Legend Randy "The Natural" Couture he was very honest in his assessment of his fight with the legend Toney and didn't crap all over him about how fast he beat him and he was man enough to admit over there in Toney's ring it'd go the same way for him great sportsmanship.👍💯🕵
WoW! Randy is the man!
Such a humble and lovable guy. He truely is a legend.
Couture is a class act.
THE BEST.
Very Respected man!!
I love this MMA channel, they get all the inside coverage.
@fitnessboyPR did you try the trick of the 1 inch punch? knuckles facing forward bring in your elbow close to the center of your chestand spring it outward
My hero !
I love this guy.
its funny how all of you are talking about how boxing is a mans sport and you need to fight standup to be a man, when woman fight are they wrestling eachother?? no they are throwing their hands recklessley 90% of the time where did the idea that wrestling was not masculine come from it literally makes no sense
because rolling around on the floor half dressed with another man in the missionary pos. is . .kinda gay. you knock a man down , you let him up, when he gets up no more you win. you dont jump on him when he's down and rip his arm out of his socket . .there is no honor in that
james deroc What is honorable changes every couple decades, then is forgotten and made fun of.
What is effective depends on the available defensive and offensive gear.
What is effective with no gear on is permanent.
MMA is valid today, it was valid a thousand years ago, and it'll still be valid in a thousand years.
Heck, it's valid for lions.
james deroc It's not like you would have a choice, Alfa would put you on your back and beat the brakes off you and there is NOTHING you could do about it omega.
james deroc
lol... honorable? try saying that to a guy who's pounding on you on the street when you're down, see if he stops... mma is the real man fighting sport... because in REAL fights (street, etc.) there is no referee to stop 2 people once they hold each other like in boxing, or once they're on the ground
Hemant Jagadheshkumar Men without technique to do anything besides throw wild punches consider everything other than wild punches not to be masculine. If they cant handle it they cover their insecurities by "fighting like men." (Or fighting like little kids on a play ground)
absolutely agree with u 100%
@bnsaints
Apart from what the other guy said about learning to avoid eye gouging, hair pulling, etc, in arts such as ju-jutsu you also practice these quick and dirty tricks relentlessly because these arts were designed for survival. So these restrictions affect them far more than any boxer.
In the original UFC you could do anything other than eye gouge and boxers still lost. That is the time you had some of the most impressive submissions - just look at Royce Gracie.
@bnsaints Phoney was beat fair and square. Good. I'm glad you agree with me :)
@AFKCPU yeah, but u gotta give him props just due too the fact that he is 47 yrs old and still doing his thang
I once attended a wrestling camp in oregon with randy, he's a cool dude
Man Randy Couture is such a nice man with so much heart and class. He never wanted to hurt James Toney he never even wanted to really fight him but if you kick a sleeping dog..just goes to show, these men have nothing to prove, but meet them on the street and pick a fight if your not an mma fighter hell sometimes even if you are your going down
Randy is an honest and humble guy, come to find out, not that I ever suggested otherwise,...we are judged by what we say! So, my hat's off to, Randy Coutoure.. "A true champion"
Randy Trained with Kick Boxers, Boxers of a really really high standard... Now the question is, "did Toney have decent MMA trainers?"
Easy day at the office for Randy, It was over before Toney even knew what was happening!
@krsbull Thats not counting sponsors(!!!)
@kerrycato911 your damn right bro, but the knucles to the forehead yeah wont knock you out but it bothers lol and cause alot of swelling and the one inch punch would help when your stuck against the oponnent and the fence I think, yeah hwoarangdo its very complete and its a great art combined with a couple of judo takedowns and bjj ground game boxing and muay thai it would be a prefect combination. I like talking with you cuz you really know what you are talking about.
@sinhaserpente Your right.
Randy = class....period.
Randy Couture is a legend!
@fitnessboyPR @EVOX091 just out of curiousity you guys ever heard of pankration? if you mix pankration with muy thai your pretty much set. pankration is wrestling, submissions and boxing all put together a few 1,000 years ago. interesting style from greece
Captain america !!!! he is cool and real a legend kudos randy from puerto rico !!!
5:41 something both sides of the fence seems to forget boxers and MMA guys I love both and train both but I hate when one hates on the other.
@bjapan96 When was he bragging? All I see going on is him answering questions for the media.
@NUMBA1PROSPECT
only to an extent.
in the same sense that Couture was using to avoid a punch, Toney should have been obsessively guarding takedowns. Randy is an olympian and everyone knows his MO, he's gonna take you down and grind out a win. Toney took the fight knowing he was going against one of the top fighters of all time, and hats off to him for doing so, but it's his own lack of preparation that cost him that bout.
@fitnessboyPR i got it! hwarangdo plus boxing!! nic stuff i didn't know my style had a name i'm nobody big but i have had a few fights with pro fighters. i had never heard of hwarangdo. looks good exept it does need some trimming down like all eastern martial arts does to make it in the cage. pretty impresive stuff though it needs some "PRO WRESLING" for flavor. just some stuff like the suplexs. and the thai elbows.
Class act.
man i love Randy....so real. he would tear u up in a boxing ring, and u would destroy him in the Octagon. period. much respect to Randy
@kerrycato911 of curse pankration was maded by bthe spartans, their boxing yes it was the first boxing but it wasnt todays boxing, today theres alot of boxing styles,they had old times boxing kinda like marciano. There grappling was pretty much like a mix of jiujitsu with wrestling. I think the best mix is boxing with takewondo muay thai, brazilian jiujitsu,wrestling, judo and aikido.
Sambo with pankration is a great mix to, also watch hwarangdo is very complete
Randy is a true MMA legend & best wrestler/ grappler in MMA history! James should have trained in Wrestling and came more prepared period and he should have told some advice from Ray Mercer who knocked out Tim Sylvia in seconds Easley!
@kerrycato911 I tried the thumb on the ear on myself lightly and damn hurts like shit I can imagine how painful it would be when done for real on an opponent, I saw the chain punches damn that hurts like hell, its very similar to the wing chun punchand yeah no matter how big the oponent is after karate chain punches the oponent will colapse. I like hitting on the cranium as many times as I can with knuckles or hammer fists that hurts, stomping on foot fingers with all your weight on it hurts lol
@kerrycato911 yeah its impressive how easy it is I broke a board with that punch, its like its npt that much strenght in the punch its all about technique
@AFKCPU ....agreed, if you can even consider him a legend.....
Randy Couture is my hero
@bigbidalls thats true.
but man listen 25 years of mma and only 29 fights??
5:30 Be nice if all of these know it all boxing and MMA fans had this much insight and wisdom...apples and oranges. A great warrior is a great warrior.
The only disadvantage a rookie MMA fighter has instead of a rookie boxer is that a boxer just has to learn to box, and an MMA fighter has to be able to compete with black belts in various grappling styles, or champion wrestlers (imagine if Kurt Angle ever got into fighting years ago), not to mention the fighters that are great/powerful strikers. They may not be "up to par" in boxing standards, but this isn't boxing, and you can't box the same in the cage.
@hooksdonny yeah but Dana should have put him in with someone like Cro-Cop or something, aged, legend and would have been a fun fight to watch.
@fitnessboyPR THANKS you too, the one inch punch is a trick lol all bruce does when he shows the one inch punch is he sets the distance and curls his elbow inward so that when he fires it he is actually getting about 8 to 9 inches of flying. watch the vidd of him doing it and watch the elbow. i can do it, you can do it. its a trick. all great fighters have tricks. if your against the cage put your thumb against his ear and push. HURTS LIKE HELL!! lol or try out the kyoshin karate chain punches
@xxshogun2010xx lol jens pulver hahaha you had me cracking up man.. i agree 100%
couture was like oh yea im the fucking man
Even though he did it, and we all saw it, Couture remained respectful to his opponents performance, or lack thereof. I commend him for having such basic professional courtesy.
He was not worried n danger but he was right, trading blows would have been folly
The problem with your viewpoint on this is that Toney was arrogant enough that he believed whole-heartedly that he could smash anybody in the mixed martial arts game. He at first said his boxing was all he needed, then that he was training grappling and would be "ready/prepared". The bottom line is that everyone in MMA had a strong feeling of the outcome, just like if Couture were to trash Toney and boxing and swear that he could outbox him.
Please , with the English boxe 's Rules ! I' want to see!
@EVOX091 yeah the more knowledege you have means more advantage I agree with you, but boxing is fighting style, I agree to be complete you need to mis it up, but I think that someone with more hability and complete domites his style can beat someone who knows alot of styles a li bit.
Boxing is the best way to fight with fist and movements to avoid punches is very effective to avoid kicks or any kind of strikes. I think boxing, taekwondo, muay thai, bjj, wrestling and judoh is the perfect combo
@kerrycato911 I agree, but master 4 of them then be decent on the other 4 and you'll be great. But yeah its easier to mix sambo with pankration scott adkins the guy who plays boyka have that kind of mix sambo with taekwondo.
Check out the hwarangdo style its very complete even more than sambo and pankration. I would say someone ho mix sambo with pankration or fights hwarangdo or jeet kune do will be a very complete fighter
@kerrycato911 jeet kune do is good for street not good for the cage. in the cage you have mouth guards and it helps dull down the hits. jeet dosn't have power in the hands. the flyng kicks won't help either. hwarangdo is good though
Randy Couture is the man
@PabLooDess If UFC brings in Fedor, everyone would
want to see that! Fedor is the god of MMA! Redicously
great fighter!
Some people - I think this includes James Tony - Say that submissions are weak and fake wins. and that a KO or TKO is a true win.
I think a submission is more of a win then a KO is.
With a KO, you've won, but the guy you KO'ed is going to be on his feet soon with no real injuries.
With a submission - You show that, if you're opponent didnt tap - You could have broken vital parts of his body and he would probably never be fighting again.
For all of you "boxers are better than mma fighters" people out there,listen very carefully to what Randy says at the very end of this interview.It sums up the real core of the arguement, and it can't be said any better.A pure boxer stands very little to NO chance of winning an MMA fight, and vice versa.And Randy not only acknowledges that, but gracefully and respectfully, and CORRECTLY declines the offer to fight a boxer in a boxing match. This fight "should" put to rest the arguement forever.
he talked longer than he fought
Listen to the way that they both speak. Intelligence over brawn, every single day of the week.
@allbiznessboxing The money does suck for the undercard
UFC fighters, and i feel Zuffa is keeping too much of money
for themselves. But how much money MMA makes in general
is quite large, and already they're dominating the PPV revenues
compared to boxing, WWE, or any other company in the entertainment
or combat sports! MMA is the new kid in time, and it's here to stay.
The only way it'll fuck up, is if Dana white, doesn't continously bring
in the best fighter, especialy Fedor!
@bjapan96 The only person that did any talking was Phoney before he got choked the fuck out. And in my opinion a submission win is better than a knockout because basically you're throwing in the towel and asking the ref to stop the fight before he can even intervene.
@bnsaints
I have all the original fights.
Art Jimmerson lost in UFC 1 by submission (choke) to Royce Gracie, and Melton Bowen lost to Steve Jennum (also by submission) in UFC 4. Back in the days when there were very few rules.
Now, explain to me what you mean by "nor did other martial artists"... because all the UFCs had winners and losers.
He's the consummate professional.
Well if you think about it, the UFC/Zuffa only really emerged in 2000 and Dana White with his team began to shape what it has become today. Pride started itself up in the late 90's, but that was in Japan. Japan has always turned out quality fighters, as has Brazil and various European countries.
America has been the question mark. The Gracies brought jiu jitsu to the states, but it wasn't until the original UFC was founded did they actually start getting mass exposure.
@valiantbros I don't think so. Chuck to slow and tank throws wide punches. You have to understand a Boxers ability to throw punches as well as take them. Boxers take punches there's no tap out for them. They take them for 12 rd's and there a lot sharper throwing them.Toney did call out Chuck but that didn't happen so he got Randy a grappler. And a smart grappler you heard him he would never do a boxing match with Toney. Chuck's a MMA striker he rarely finish with a tap out. So he would bang out
@UCantHandleTheTruth3 and leg kicks are just 1 of the many advantages they would have over any boxer, nevermind wrestling and bjj.
the bottom line is boxers are not fighters,
I think it's funny how everyone gives james toney so much props for just getting into the octagon, What no one mentions is that he was paid a million dollars, I'm on dialysis and I'd get into the octagon for a million dollars. Actually I'd do it for free because I love the sport of mma. Don't get me wrong I also love the art of boxing; but what I don't understand is how can people dis Randy for how he won, criticizing him for not standing with Toney. Fight smart not hard.
@toplevelcoach Well, randy wasn't the one attacking the other sport, he was defending his own. So why should he have to go over to boxing?
And there are other styles that Americans weren't nationally aware of. Boxing and wrestling were considered the "all american" sports in terms of combat recognition. Sure there are various karate stylists, but they don't get the same respect.
I would agree with part of your statement, but with an adjustment to the rest f it. I would say that it applies to the caliber of some of the rookies in the sport. Accomplished fighters like GSP, Silva, Jones, etc., are world class.
They shoulda fight a round of boxing and a round of jujitsu
+Tony Uriostegui That's not UFC. You can't fight non-UFC rules in the UFC.
could you not ov broken vital body arts via k.o.. eg punches elbows to the head knees? think about it
I have mixed feelings about this. Toney put his money where his mouth was. I respect that he actually got into the octagon with Couture. On the other hand, did he really think he had a chance? Is there really anybody surprised by the outcome? This will happen ANYTIME a good MMA fighter faces a good boxer. Without solid grappling skills, you DON'T have a chance. PERIOD!
@hooksdonny is that a joke? Jones is twice his size. He would fight someone like Jose Aldo which would be amazing.
@60D550N23 A boxer and a mixed martial artist in a street fight, who would win that one? MMA.
Rocky is a movie. It's fictional. The Fighter is a fictional movie as well. I am a boxing fan and I like watching boxing more than I like watching MMA. I can't wait for Klitschko vs Haye this June, but you put either of them against Shane Carwin or Cain Velasquez and they would be unconscious within two minutes. Boxing is great to watch, but MMA is a superior fighting style(s).
ariel helwani has this same video but in bettter quality n sound
Dude got dismantled...
@leemeires Mma is already bigger than boxing
And I don't really think that MMA will ever reach the olympic level. With it being a culmination of styles, I would be afraid that it would overshadow the singular style brackets of things like judo, boxing, wrestling, etc. Not at first, but perhaps eventually. Not only that, but with boxing being more federation than company, fighters would have to forsake their companies (i.e. UFC) for olympic training and competition, possibly jeopardizing their contracts.
Ii say it wasnt a boxing match,,its mma so hands and legs are allowed so a mma fighter fight what evar way works best...boxing u only can use ur hands so u cant realy compare......but randy wiped his ass just as i thought..
well done Randy. You showed that boxing doesn't belong in MMA. No disrespect to James Tony...but boxing is only a fraction of MMA. Dame it...when are these boxers gonna realize that you need to be an all around fighter in this competition, not a one demination fighter.
@MrEasysmoke i believe you i cant imagine dana white saying no but i can because the way he feels about boxing promoters doesnt matter bottom line is roy jones would have lost period mr anderson silva is the greatest striker i have ever seen
??? Are you sure you were watching the same fight???
I agree with you that striking is important, but thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying that some fights do end up on the ground and in that situation MMA training is going to help you and all your years of boxing is going to be useless...
If MMA is so versatile why do the guys always have to hug the boxers to the ground? They only prove that theyre as one dimensional as they claim boxers are and also they know deep down their own strike game is not up to the task.
i don't understand why Toney would get put with one of the best wrestlers in ufc ever. why not a striker that would make it exciting. and answer some questions about boxer in MMA
Man, one boxing match i would love to see at 160 pounds is Canelo vs Mcgregor, Mcgregor would not last one round w/ Canelo. Mayweather carried Mcgregor throughout their fight, i believe, to make for an entertaining night.
Iron_
Yeah golovkin would knock mcgregor out of the ring. But both are very good at what they do
Carrying 😂 , yeah carrying by getting punched and countered everytime till round 4. Delusional boxing fans
@kungfuspic Chuck Liddell would dominate Toney. Much the same Randy did. I would like to see Tank Abbott knock out Toney.
@AFKCPU No. Wrong on both sorry. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
@krsbull Toney never got paid
I'm not so sure. According to all the pro-boxing MMA haters, even on the low end, a boxing match still grants more purse. Given that, and with how long it took to set the fight up with negotiations and training, would it not have made more sense to pursue some sort of boxing match instead? I would think so, but it's all speculation.
Not only that, but it was more than just James himself. His entire entourage was part of it. I'd like to think he has more self respect than that, but who knows.
Couture vs toney is what will happen if they were ever in a street fight. boxing is a fighter who only has exp. in boxing. a MMA fighter is a complete fighter.
@mS28811 sorry 20 years of exp
Aww back when Dana n randy were friends
@fitnessboyPR ok ill bite... know imagine that same taekwondo fighter, who has also trained in boxing, as well as wrestling and jiujitsu. meaning at close range the mma fighter has an advantge because of his grappling abilty and boxing defense. from longrange, again anadvantage because of reach. on the ground, once again an advantage... like i said boxing is the sport of punching, not fighting
@wdp11683 YOU BROKE MY HEART!!!
(crying) its not true boxing is a GOD!!!! sport
cant die NOOOOOO
@EVOX091 tell that to pacquiao, he's also an eskrima champion in phillipines, or ask who have better skill fighting with punches they are fighters, watch miguel cotto train with torrez and pellegrino. Teres no style better than other its all in practicioners habulity. example Taekwondo vs boxing on the distance tkd will ko the boxer but in close distance boxing haves the advantage
a good fight would be james toney chuck liddel