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  • @MycologyExploration
    @MycologyExploration  Před 3 lety +17

    Super Simple Substrate 50% Coco Coir 50% Vermiculite with a bit of Gypsum for Ph balance. Skip forward to the recap 6:36
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    • @lower.case.h8759
      @lower.case.h8759 Před 2 lety +1

      This comment is legendary. Thanks for getting right to the point. Love when you tubers do this

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank You...We appreciate that you appreciate our straightforwardness. We were frustrated when we did our research and decided to consolidate the info and then give everybody an opportunity to share what works in the sphere of growing 💥⚡🍄

    • @xj11w2c7
      @xj11w2c7 Před rokem +2

      Yo that is a lot of vermiculite. Obviously whatever works for you is great but if you feel so inclined you can definitely get away with less.

  • @deiondyson512
    @deiondyson512 Před rokem +32

    Nah i just boil water and put it into the bucket with my vermiculite and coir/gypsum mixture. Let it sit for 25 hours. Works for me

    • @SaItyStudios
      @SaItyStudios Před 6 měsíci +3

      ty im gonna do this when I have the time to grow mushies

    • @WANDERINGSPIRIT2023
      @WANDERINGSPIRIT2023 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I do the same plus the pillow case defeats the sterilization process

    • @elisten1153
      @elisten1153 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@WANDERINGSPIRIT2023yeh that’s what I thought to I was like wait they what 😂

    • @necropz
      @necropz Před 2 měsíci

      I'm so keen to grow some but all these long processes with the substrate been putting me off, so many things I'd have to buy just got get the stuff sterile, boiling water bucket method I'm Gona give a shit first way more up my alley haha

  • @atlantisfunktions
    @atlantisfunktions Před 8 měsíci +7

    relationship goals

  • @davids11131113
    @davids11131113 Před rokem +12

    A good substrate mix I’ve been using with great results you might want to try is the block of coco, a cup of hardwood pellets, a cup of used coffee grounds.

    • @rodlangston2138
      @rodlangston2138 Před rokem +3

      How are you preparing the coffee grounds? I've been considering it for it's nitrogen content, but many claim the increase in contamination is high. Any experienced advice would be greatly appreciated.

    • @patrickmanasco8772
      @patrickmanasco8772 Před rokem

      @@rodlangston2138if you paustwrize it’s no issue( I would right after using, I make cold coffee bulk so have a lot left over is why thus caught my eye)

  • @jozsefhideg5166
    @jozsefhideg5166 Před 3 měsíci +2

    1 brick (600 gr) coco coir-3 liter perlite -4 liter boiling water and 100 gr gypsum. Put them into a bucket for a day, and when it cool down it's ok.

  • @psilocyborg4775
    @psilocyborg4775 Před 2 lety +23

    Gypsum is mainly used for calcium, mushrooms love calcium,if you're looking for a pH buffer lime is what you're looking for, you want your substrate slightly acidic as it keeps pesky contamination to a minimum.

    • @stevevet3652
      @stevevet3652 Před 2 lety +5

      Have you ever had a problem with a thick fuzzy/hairy growth over your sub-straight? If yes, can you offer a solution to prevent the growth or rid your sub-straight of the fuzzy/hairy growth.

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +3

      Not generally. It could be 5hat you are having tomentose growth mixed with rhizomorphic. Does it have any bad smell to it? Any other colors? Anything seem slimy?

    • @psilocyborg4775
      @psilocyborg4775 Před 2 lety +4

      @@stevevet3652 I'm not exactly sure which fuzziness you're talking about,it's hard to tell without seeing it. It could be cobweb mold.Get a clean cotton bud and carefully wipe an infected area, if it comes off onto the cotton black it could be cobweb mold,if not it may just be mycelium it can look like that sometimes. If your still getting primordia and mushrooms it should be fine. Hydrogen peroxide will get rid of cobweb mold. It will disappear when it comes into contact with the peroxide and I don't think it harms your mycelium. If it's fuzzy around the base of the mushrooms it's due to lack of oxygen and is nothing to worry about unless it's half way up the stems.

    • @tommyfishbone1303
      @tommyfishbone1303 Před rokem

      ​@@stevevet3652 it's just wispy mycelium

    • @shawnwillis767
      @shawnwillis767 Před rokem

      @@stevevet3652 proper FAE

  • @arock9546
    @arock9546 Před rokem +4

    Clear instructions.Thank you.

  • @jordanmartinez2432
    @jordanmartinez2432 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video!!!! Straight forward methods that work, cant beat it!!!👍😊🍄🙏

  • @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk
    @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk Před 4 měsíci +2

    I use coarse verm to make the sub more fluffy

  • @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk
    @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk Před 4 měsíci +1

    You can use a double boiler to help aid in not having the bottom overheat

  • @tommyfishbone1303
    @tommyfishbone1303 Před rokem +2

    Mycelium loves and needs minerals that are in tap water
    Distilled water is used for a casing if using one. And that's not even necessary. Tap water's fine since sterilized when casing.

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před rokem +3

      The idea behind our thought process isn't about tap vs distilled. We consider all variables according to our needs. Contamination is key for us and our household health. Distilled, for us, offers a contaminant free way of doing things. You can use whatever works for you and vice versa. We have NO issues with nutrients doing our method but ultimately it is up to the mycologist to do what works for them. Thank you for your input

    • @NeuroplasticityReprogram
      @NeuroplasticityReprogram Před 10 dny

      ​@@MycologyExploration yeah...my personal concern being fluoride.

  • @Micheal-vy3vz
    @Micheal-vy3vz Před 2 lety +2

    very good, pillow case genius (not sarcastic)

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +1

      it really is!!! so glad we learned it early on. a big bucket and pillow case makes it easy!

  • @lucidlife2030
    @lucidlife2030 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you!

  • @ArcLightLifeLove
    @ArcLightLifeLove Před 3 lety +7

    🍄🍄🍄

  • @marktaylor2855
    @marktaylor2855 Před rokem +1

    Thanks

  • @whodidit99
    @whodidit99 Před 5 měsíci +2

    50% Coco Coir 50% Vermiculite by dry weight, wet weight or volume?

  • @5.dot.connector
    @5.dot.connector Před 5 měsíci +2

    I assume you're talking about 140 degrees of Fahrenheit?

  • @user-tb9zs3lj3v
    @user-tb9zs3lj3v Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why is it that here in the Philippines we make our substrate a lot more wet? A bunch of water comes out when we squeeze the substrate. But it works A LOT better than the type of field capacity people from the West show us on youtube and shroomery. Does it have to do something with the climate? We dont do casing layers either. And we do not cover the holes in the monotub while waiting for it to start pinning. We do a set and forget technique. No misting, fanning, etc. We just wait for it to fruit and harvest. When I try the teks i see here on youtube it doesn't work as well.

  • @ypsonar
    @ypsonar Před 20 dny +1

    Please guide, Is it applicable for button mashroom

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 19 dny

      We haven't grown button mushrooms, we forage for those however I bet this substrate would work.

  • @debicoram3498
    @debicoram3498 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for the easy instructions.
    What size tub do you use?

  • @kelsiemackay9717
    @kelsiemackay9717 Před 2 lety +3

    Might be a silly question but I gather that it’s 140 F? Sorry to ask as I am in Australia and we use Celsius thank you

  • @roverjohn
    @roverjohn Před 7 měsíci +1

    50/50 mix by volume or weight?

  • @darcybrowne5421
    @darcybrowne5421 Před 3 lety +2

    Hello I'm just wondering does PDA work well for truffles? I want to innoculate some oak saplings with some colonized agar but I don't know if it will work

  • @dianacurry5508
    @dianacurry5508 Před rokem +1

    So Up until this point I have bought kits so mycelium, and substrate are all included. Except for wine cap mycelium in mulch from a community source. In the backyard. I am looking more for more of an indoor ideas What are the best types mushrooms to grow in this substrate? I admit looking for more than Bellas or buttons. Example can you do lion mane or shake, or oyster? Thank you

  • @Departing_Beloved
    @Departing_Beloved Před 2 lety +3

    Do you absolutely need Gypsum to complete the substrate recipe, or can I go without it? Long time researcher of mycology, first time mushroom grower!

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +4

      I think it has more to do with the PH of the water your using... We just noticed with experimentation that we had best results with gypsum added. Ultimately you CAN grow without gypsum unless your water source is way off PH wise

    • @Departing_Beloved
      @Departing_Beloved Před 2 lety +2

      @@MycologyExploration I see! Thank you so much for that clarity!

    • @lonfeebo
      @lonfeebo Před 2 lety +2

      Coffee grounds are a good gypsum alternative.

    • @citizenoftheninthdivision
      @citizenoftheninthdivision Před 2 lety +6

      You can just pasteurize straight coco coir and use for your substrate. Cubensis love it just fine.

    • @jenniferg6818
      @jenniferg6818 Před rokem +1

      @@MycologyExploration how does gypsum effect pH?

  • @dressedanddepressed2301
    @dressedanddepressed2301 Před 3 lety +2

    How do you guys like that brand of coco bliss? I’ve heard if it’s for plants it has added trich in it for root growth/protection? I see many use it though with good success. Does gypsum lower ph or just add calcium and sulfur? (Calcium sulfate)

    • @Micheal-vy3vz
      @Micheal-vy3vz Před 2 lety

      im not an expert but i don’t think you are supposed to use calcium with mushrooms, correct me if im wrong

    • @brianwalther6491
      @brianwalther6491 Před 2 lety +1

      Good question… I am curious about the same thing.

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +2

      We love it! No problems so far.

    • @psilocyborg4775
      @psilocyborg4775 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Micheal-vy3vz mushrooms love calcium if you hadn't found the answer,lime is used as a pH buffer.Try not to use anything with trich in it,it's a mycologists worst nightmare,the reason we pasteurize Coco coir instead of sterililizing is because it leaves useful microbes in the substrate that help fight off trich.Thats not to say you won't get good results using other methods if it works for you go for it, in mycology cleanliness and patience are key. Happy mushrooming!!

  • @jamescarl6426
    @jamescarl6426 Před rokem +2

    I have more bulk substrate then I need right now from a grow is it safe to use if it’s been days or weeks

  • @wolfsterdescalo7051
    @wolfsterdescalo7051 Před 9 měsíci

    Is 10 weeks normal for colonization? I used 2 10cc syringes. If after the bags are colonizing should you empty the bags into the tub?

  • @jasondavis7885
    @jasondavis7885 Před 2 lety +3

    So 50/50 by volume after hydration of the coir?

  • @LS9TBSS
    @LS9TBSS Před rokem +1

    I might have missed it.. How much water do you need to use tho?? I'm about to try this for the first time, and I never heard anyone say how much water.. And this is the first video where anyone mentions that you have to DRAIN the water out ⁉️🤷

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před rokem

      We fill up the pot so it's easy to stir and mix, also so you don't cook it. You can use as much water as you want then strain it.

  • @adrihalut
    @adrihalut Před 4 měsíci +1

    Don't you need some kind of food source in the mix?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 4 měsíci

      Birdseed/grain along with the agar or LC/slurry from which the mycelium came from all have nutrients for growth. Moisture is vital, so clean water is recommended. We don't use rice because it has no nutrients.

  • @foxybuddy
    @foxybuddy Před 7 měsíci

    Hi there, the gypsum from my local stores, they are for gardening purpose, to release calcium and sulphur, will not upset soil's PH level, nor increase alkalinity of soil. Would you suggest if that sounds a correct one?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 7 měsíci

      We're not sure. You don't have to add the gypsum especially if you use clean purified water.

  • @cryptohound
    @cryptohound Před 2 měsíci

    I use just vermiculite 💯base, cake , case. Vermiculite lasagna

  • @OfficialAdamMichaelDrums
    @OfficialAdamMichaelDrums Před 6 měsíci

    What size tubs are those?

  • @garymartz
    @garymartz Před rokem +2

    such a great video husband and wife ;)
    i take it the Gypsum is to rase the ph? I'm thinking of using Azomite. do you think that would be a good replacement? n what about worm casings from my worm bin? I'm a little scared about that

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před rokem +1

      Gypsum for ph yes!!! We don't know about Azomite.

    • @frankieu2598
      @frankieu2598 Před rokem +2

      Gypsum does not change Ph, it’s a source for calcium. Dehydrated lime for altering ph. cvgl tek on CZcams

  • @techpriest2474
    @techpriest2474 Před rokem +1

    Are those 140 degrees celsius or fahrenheit ?

  • @frisco9568
    @frisco9568 Před 2 lety +3

    I thought pasteurization was between 160-180?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for watching our video. As always do what research you need for your particular substrate. It might be that certain materials need different temps. This quoted info is from PennState Extension.
      "An effective pasteurization will eradicate harmful bacteria, nematodes, insects and fungi. In general a compost substrate temperature of 140° F for 4 hours is adequate for a complete pasteurization. To insure a complete pasteurization it is suggested to have a minimum of 2 hour crossover time, where both the air and compost substrate at 140° F together"
      "High override temperatures may kill or inactivate the good microbes. Sometimes it is necessary to have a high override because the cross over time is lengthen to insure inconsistent compost substrate is properly pasteurized. The compromise with a high override temperature is that it will take longer to convert ammonia to protein after the pasteurization, because more good microbes are killed or inactivated"
      thanks again and keep the community updated on your progress and what works for you 🍄😎

    • @activeenglishlecreusot9628
      @activeenglishlecreusot9628 Před 2 lety +1

      170 is the sweet spot

    • @rw7131
      @rw7131 Před 10 měsíci

      140 - 170

  • @growingandcooking7278
    @growingandcooking7278 Před 2 lety +1

    So what kinds of gourmet mushrooms grow well on this substrate?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +2

      So many different types grow well in a 50/50 coco vermiculite sub!!! It's our go to for most types.

  • @stevevet3652
    @stevevet3652 Před 2 lety +2

    Have you ever had a problem with a thick fuzzy/hairy growth over your sub-straight? If yes, can you offer a solution to prevent the growth or rid your sub-straight of the fuzzy/hairy growth.

    • @lower.case.h8759
      @lower.case.h8759 Před 2 lety +1

      That's probably mold or mycelium, which if your using it to grow mushrooms, then that's a good thing

    • @ryanalbertson9839
      @ryanalbertson9839 Před 2 lety

      Need to fan it 3 times a day for 50 seconds

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds most likely that tomentos growth is occurring. General rule of thumb is to see if there is any smell.. If the answer is Yes toss it quickly. If it's a No then like mentioned before it's probably an issue with airflow. These are just good general rules of thumb to keep in your "mental toolkit"

    • @davids11131113
      @davids11131113 Před rokem

      Substrate

  • @pradeepsuresh1378
    @pradeepsuresh1378 Před rokem +1

    Are you using high EC or low EC cocopeat?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před rokem +1

      Low EC... Didn't realize there was a difference until you asked! They are bricks of coir

  • @universalhip-hop4164
    @universalhip-hop4164 Před rokem +2

    who else thinks this looks good enough to eat lmaoo

  • @wobblybob7029
    @wobblybob7029 Před 2 lety

    hello is this substrate ok for button mushrooms '

  • @chascodelviso
    @chascodelviso Před 2 měsíci +3

    Too complicated

  • @wolfsterdescalo7051
    @wolfsterdescalo7051 Před 9 měsíci

    Is there a complete substrate available?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 9 měsíci +1

      There are grow kits available but the risk of not dedicating to some kind of proper technique and understanding the in and outs of growing mushrooms you are more than likely going to run in to issues along the journey that could've been avoided by just doing all the steps yourself. Good luck and mush luv 🍄

    • @wolfsterdescalo7051
      @wolfsterdescalo7051 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MycologyExploration Thank you for your time. Keep up the work.

  • @JorgeMartinez-bruy
    @JorgeMartinez-bruy Před 2 lety +1

    Do you mean 140 degrees farenheit or Celsius? In my country, the degrees are only Celsius. Don't forget that your videos are watched all over the world...

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +1

      Fahrenheit !

    • @shimono992
      @shimono992 Před 2 lety +1

      If you have internet, check out the fahrenheit to celsius converter. Don't forget that people all over the world use it...

    • @JorgeMartinez-bruy
      @JorgeMartinez-bruy Před 2 lety

      @@shimono992, We don't use Farenheit in Latin America. But, OK, I've checked the converter 140=60 degrees celsius.

  • @enigma1247
    @enigma1247 Před rokem

    Why not just use the oven with foil turkey tins?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před rokem

      To each there own. There are so many different ways of doing this hobby it's mind boggling, but I bet you already know this. A better way to make your statement might be. " there is also another technique that I use... It's etc.... " That way we all, this channel included, can learn and grow from each other. Mush love

  • @meme-lx6cs
    @meme-lx6cs Před rokem +1

    140c or 140f ?? too much information out there

  • @franco634
    @franco634 Před 2 lety +1

    So that is one and a half pounds of coco coir and one and a half pounds of vermiculite. Are we talking wet coco coir or dry?

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety

      You will mix all ingredients in clean water, everything will be wet. We use a pillow case in a large bucket to drain the water out.

    • @toddwmac
      @toddwmac Před 2 lety

      You can think of it as 1:1 regardless of the actual weight. I believe the 1.5 pounds is a dry weight because a common CC brick is about 650 grams or 1.4ish pounds.

  • @heikg
    @heikg Před 2 lety +1

    The lady talks very slow. Sounds normal at 1.5x speed though

    • @MycologyExploration
      @MycologyExploration  Před 2 lety +2

      Lol..... As long as you don't have the problem of keeping up I guess you still got the info you needed