Cheap HBA and SAS expander options
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you have a better diction than most of my engineering faculty professors, and you don't even speak my language!
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Another great addition to the Sloth Tech TV library, please keep the original content coming. Love all you’re doing for the community.
We appreciate you so much! Thank you for the kind words of encouragement friend! :)
two videos in a week! we are truly blessed!
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@@SlothTechTV will the hp expander work with any sas controller and not just hp controller?
I watched and subbed a little over a year ago for your Plex content. I'm really happy to see you posting this kind of content now. I'm here for it!
Mr. Sloth, thank you so much for your knowledge. I watched is video more than 15 times over a 3 week period. I now finally understand what you are talking about. I am learning so much. Thank you!!!
Subscribed! Thanks for these useful videos on the finer points of drive expansion.
More Vids! Please. I trust and respect your videos more than most. Maybe make two versions to each video; a swift, bullet-point style of video (not unlike what you do now), as well as a in-depth video that goes into all the nuances of different connectors, data rates over different protocols (example: SAS vs SATA), or other more informative tangents that you may exclude from your normal videos. Or maybe release more short videos that explain these detailed things. I thought I knew a fair amount about computers and networks from my experiences gaming, building GPU-based mining rigs, and various network nodes, but then I got into Chia...and consequently discovered your videos. I'm humbled and truly impressed by the difference in performance and versatility that servers and workstations can provide over even the most kick@$$ gaming PC. I feel like there are many enthusiasts like me that want to bridge that gap, and I hope you continue to assist in that effort. I really appreciate what you do, and hope you continue. You rock, Man; keep it up.
Good videos man!
I enjoy watching them!
Your not overexpresing or clickbaiting like all the otgers these days. Many people will enjoy and stay with you if they found you once on youtube!
That beard transformation! Thought I was looking at someone different. Nice content!
Thank you. I appreciate the work you put into this. I am unlikely to print this, but I may make something similar to it out of wood or metal.
That was exactly what i was looking for except for the 3d printing. I will try to mod and old enclosure i guess. Thanks a lot.
Can you make a video on how to setup those SAS hard drives on your PC?
This would be great
yes please it would be great
I need this too!
@@erikmcentyre7636 sloth tech tv made a video about it if you want.
@@walouinsanityshed thank you I'm going to search for it
Such great work that nearly everything you've mentioned has nearly doubled in price.
MAN, you just gave me my next chalenge :D
Thanks for these videos and information!
How do attach the 3d printed modules to eachother? Just screws or glue or something else?
Also could you show us how you have setup the wiring for the HDD power and data connections?
Great video. Thank you
Very informative. Thanks.
Hello! I am from brazil, thank you a lot for all you doing, im learning a lot! One questin, the lsi sff8088 hba works in desktops too? I have a X99 with e5 2697 v3 and 32gb ram.
How did you manage the power to all the drives? Were you using sata power splitters?
Good video thanks for making it.
I do have question or two.
I run Windows 11 and need to add more sata drives as mobo is full. Can HBA SAS work on windows 11 and which card would be best fit?
hey sloth I am looking into HP SAS expanders and their are several models out their. They all seem to look exactly like the 487738-001 in your video. From your experience do you think they would do the job or I just have to take a shot in the dark and hope it works if its not the same exact model number you have?
Thanks.
Can I use a different controller instead of the lsi 920-00-16e? If so, what do you recommend? I found the HP Smart Array P822 615415-002 2GB at a good price. Will it communicate with the Expander?
Hi. I stumbled upon this video while trying to figure out what I need to buy to use more than 8 drives my LSI "SAS9211-8I 8PORT Int 6GB Sata+SAS Pcie 2.0" card from Amazon allows. I'm still learning this stuff little by little and I understand I need an expander or expander "backplate" of some sort afaict. If you don't mind recommending, what would be the cheapest, most reliable product(s) for this? I have paired two "Cable Matters Internal Mini SAS to SATA Cable (SFF-8087 to SATA Forward Breakout) 1.6 Ft" cables after seeing them recommended in some of the reviews for this LSI card. If my PC specs help, they are: 990FX mobo; FX-6300; 32GB 1866 DDR3 (locked to 1600 by cpu); LSI card (in 2nd PCIe 2.0 x16 slot). The majority of the drives to connect would be traditional mechanical drives so I'm not so concerned having SSD's throttled (besides, I've heard conflicting viewpoints whether they can be harmed using these cards with ssd's instead of native mobo sata ports) I'd like to keep all the wiring inside my tower chassis and not have additional external wires if possible. In any event, thank you for your time and consideration and will watch this video again in hopes something clicks as to which direction to go.
Does this enclosure do anything to mitigate drive vibrations?
Hey, so I was thinking about getting 3-4 intel dc s3700 ssds (which you mentioned in another video) for plotting chia, which option (connecting them to the pc) do you think is the best for ssds so that the plotting process won’t take too long?
I have the same question
Does the HP sas expander also work as a raid controller or only as a sas interface to PCIE for individual drives?
how did you managed to get the power supply ready, without a motherboard? Did you use some kind of jumpers (for the 24 pin)?
Roger that -- there are even adapters on amazon you can get.
Hello! i can use an pcie riser (the ones that i use for gpu) for an LSI sas pci? And that way use an pcie 1x slot? its possible? thanks! and let me tell you, this is an great CHANNEL!!
Hi @Sloth tech ! Just received a BROADCOM LSI 9650SE-12/16ML 16 channels SATA RAID PCI HBA from ebay but can not succeed to connect HDDs that are out of the box (using 8087 split cables). When in the LSI card bios I'm only able to "create unit" from HDD that have already been connected to my Dell T5810 (so full with plots) but impossible to "create unit" with brand new HDD (they show up in "incomplete drives and others" with "drive error"). Is there anything to do to configure the card ? I can not find any driver (i'm using Widows 10 pro). Any tips ? Great videos btw ! I learned all from scratch thanks to your channel on how to mine Chia first with swar then with mad max. Now trying to connect 32 HDDs to my T5810 after having seen this video. What a challenge ! Cheers.
Does it matter that this card is pcie 2.0 x8 if used with sas drives for plotting chia? 16 10k sas drives on pcie 2.0 x8 speeds, wont that bottle neck it?
I appreciate your opinion
Very informative vedio go go go thank you
Would something like this be ok? Dell LSI SAS 9206-16e to use?
Hi, what you recomend to use 10tb sas hdd on a normal pc (with a ryzen 9 5950x)?
I am living in a remote area called Iran and I don't have access to worldwide shipped product
do you have any suggestions on how to get the controllers ??
How is there clearance below when obviously you're supposed to rack mount it. Wheels won't do anything either
Possibly can I replace
LSI SAS 9200-16E
for controller
LSI SAS 9201-16E
What is different? Will it work?
thank sir, 2 option: hba --> convert 8088 to 8482(sas drive), hba ---> expander -->sas 8087 to 8482 cable --> sas drive?
Great video and design. Where did you find the housing/enclosure for the SFF-8087?
its on my thingiverse site
@@SlothTechTV Piggy backing off this guys comment. It's on your profile(don't see it) or somewhere else? Have the direct link?
@@SlothTechTV Only 3 things on you thingivers - 6, 16 & 32 drive cases
@@droidhome8558 www.thingiverse.com/thing:4861870
Sorry for delay
I made something like this with wood for 24x 2.5" SSD's and another one with 16x 3.5" HDDs while the HDD are bumped with sponges to reduce and dump the Noise completly. In Polymer cases the vibration thing is a desaster. :-( How did you manage the Noise in this Plastique case?
HI , I tried to use HP SAS expander and LSI 9200-16e making a disk array. But when I tried to use one of my GPU riser card to power up the HP SAS expander , it does not work.
I can make it work if I insert the expander on real PCIe slot on the same PC that I installed the LSI HBA card. May you tell me which step I could be wrong? should I use any particular riser card? or I need to upgrade the FW of HP SAS expander?
Great work
Cant wait to see with you can do when you get more followers and can heighten the production value.
Have you considered patreon?
That's amazing
How many drives can I hold with expander
Thanks alot for your videos . can i connect the LSI SAS9200-16e to normal MB like Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard ?
you can! just needs a PCI-e slot.
Hey bro! Greetings from Australia, you are my new favourite youtuber, by far! I just nabbed a HP 24 Bay Port 3Gb SAS SATA Expander Card Mini SAS 487738-001 468405-001 on ebay -will take a while to get here though ;( Can you please let me know the cables you are using for your HP 24/48? I'm a long time gpu miner, converting my farm to chia as eth POW goes away, but I'm a total sas/storage noob so your channel is gold, I've learned so much in a couple of days. Thank you, much appreciate your work.
So should the break out cables be 8087 or 8088 you say 8087 but link 8088 and the picture in the video is 8088.
Please give link for buying all components explain for make jbod
A lot of people are looking for videos on how to set up those SAS hard drives on your PC? Chia coin is in demand! =) Please, do that for us
Please keep making more videos
Thank you!! I have some really good videos coming up including a budget plex server build that is REALLY interesting.
@@SlothTechTV can’t wait. I really enjoy your videos.
can you send me a link for the pcie card with the 4 sas ins?
Hello! Great informational videos! I have run into an issue that I'm hoping someone here can help with. I got an LSI 9211-8i P20 and currently have it sitting in a PCIe x16 slot but for some reason, the OS sees the card but none of the 8 HDDs plugged in. Does anyone know why they aren't showing up? I have been reading through forums all day and haven't found an answer. Any help is much appreciated. thank you for your time.
The printable housing on 0:50 where can i find them? Thingiverse is acting up again... sorry to disturbed you with such a dumb question.
How do your power all the HDD? Why would you put so much effort in a self build when there are plenty of jbod with standard power supply and Ethernet connections?
I am from india, how to get these SAS connectors. I am unable to find it here. Do we have any other cheaper option. Could you please make a video explaining what are the other cheaper options available to connect multiple HHDs to a motherboard. Thanks.
hi, the SAS card works on windows 10 ?
Can these be put in a normal PC or must be a server? I'm guessing windows would only support 26 drives total due to letters of the aplhabet?
Am actively farming Chia on a NUC ghost canyon getting about 9 plots a day with linux. My worry is the COST, no just burning out a SSD at $300, but the Storage costs of HDD @ some $30 a TB. If you farming on my son's Threadripper with over 32 plots a day, the cost of buying the HHD s will cost more than the pc every month!!
Did anyone designed an HDD bay .stl file like this that can be printed in parts on a smaller printer ?
how much does it cost to print one of these hard drive enclosures if you have your own 3d printer?
$40 in filament. 2 spools
@@SlothTechTV great thanks.
Gd day thank you nice info i am.interested canni buy that inclosure from.you
How to power all the sata hdd if the power supply has only 4 contector's per cable?
you'll need this a SATA Power Splitter Adapter Cable. amazon has it
I'm not seeing the 24 bay version on Thingiverse...
Nevermind, it's there :) Thanks! These videos are very helpful.
I dont have a 3d printer if ok for you can i buy 1 enclosure from you sir
Sorry I am confused please help. I want to put everything in a case, i am not building a box like you did to expand, do i just need a sas/sata pcie breakout board and breakout cables? I was going to buy the hp expander you recommended but its on 3.0gbs for sata my drives are 6.0gb ssd's and it also says for this hp card that "You will need a RAID/HBA card already installed in your system for it to work". so do i need to buy the LSI/hba card you said as well? even though the expander is going to be on another pcie slot on the same motherboard? I saw this www.amazon.com/Expansion-Expander-Lenovo-03X3834-11407-01/dp/B08TWDZJCD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=sas+expander&qid=1620497168&sr=8-6 will this work for my needs? again i am keeping everything inside a case, should just need an expander board like the one on the link, or is it just lenovo compatible?
i bought this, will it work? IBM 46M0997 ServeRAID 16-Port SAS Expander Expansion Adapter www.ebay.com/itm/194024571591
Sir please shear this hp sas expander car buying link all components
All the sas expanders i can find are $500 now. I think i'd be better just adding more HBA's lol
can you use this SAS 487738-001 in windows 10?anybody tried?
can someone explain what is this on the side of the box? at 00:50-51
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because in my initial design i was using SFF-8088 to SFF 8087 breakout cables.. so i had to convert from sff-8088 to sff-8087... I've since just used sff-8088 breakout cables.
@@SlothTechTV thanks! actually, made same mistake - ordered wrong cables and now waiting for proper ones from AlieX :)
Cool!
The only other thing that I would add is to be careful if you are using SAS expanders and/or other host bus adapters from the perspective of how your host system is actually managing the drives and the data that's on those drives.
Ideally, a good rule-of-thumb to go by is that you'd want at least 1 GB of RAM per every TB of data that your host system/server is managing as well as (also, ideally) one CPU core (preferrably physical core as opposed to a logical core) per drive that the host server is managing as well.
This is mostly so that you can keep your drive's throughput at a maximum IF you aren't using some kind of remote direct memory access (RDMA) technology.
This didn’t age well lol!