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Very interesting. I have watched many of your videos - I know it is a hard life, but it is also a good life and during your lives you certainly learn so much more, technical, practical and leisure. I hope you keep fit and continue to work hard and enjoy what you do.
Great vid mate, just letting u know to make it easier next time, run the front wheel up on some blocks, so it puts it on a angle and u can put the other wheel on with out jacking up up each side
Would have done that if we wanted to start it. It doesn't have any start assist for the cold, so that last video I made of us cold starting it was the last time it was started.
We do wd40 also just on the tip of the bolt screw it in 1 or 2 turns then let the impact wrench smack it in never had one come lose we actually have to use a breaker bar an 5ft pipe to loosen up afterwards.... safety first
Hey Ryan, you mentioned you decided on WD 40. What were the other choices? Did you maybe consider Never Seize? When I worked at the fertilizer plant we put copious amounts of Never Seize on all of the hardware when replacing a flange, etc. Sometimes even with the Never Seize the nuts were hard to remove from the studs.
That thing looks bad ass! I was wondering how what happens if you flip the tires so the tread points the opposite direction? I have heard it gives more flotation but do you get more wheel slip as well or something? what are the pros and cons of that set up? I see a lot of grain buggies with the tread reversed but not many tractors.
Running chevron (tractor) treads backwards DOES help flotation *some*, but it really reduces traction, at least going forward. The chevron pattern is used on tractor tires because when a powered wheel is turning forward with the center of the chevron contacting the ground first, any slippage or mud will be pushed out to the sides as the tire bites into the ground, which cleans the tread out and allows them to dig in and bite in more for better traction. Running the chevrons backwards on a powered axle so that the ends of the chevrons hit the soil first, tends to cause any slippage to dig the soil in towards the center of the tire-- since the dirt or mud is now "dug loose" by the slippage, it loads up the chevrons, lifts the tire slightly, and is slung out the back as a wad of dirt of mud, which increases slippage because the chevrons can't bite into the soil. On an unpowered axle, like on a sprayer or implement, running the chevrons backwards helps to improve flotation *slightly* because the chevrons tend to pull the soil in a bit toward the center of the tire... PLUS, if the wheel sinks in and wants to start bulldozing the soil in front of it instead of turning, the soil is pushing OUTWARDS along the chevrons toward the sides (since the tire is slowing down or trying not to turn) and this allows the bars to dig in and keep the wheel turning rather than it just bulldozing up a pile of dirt in front of the tire. Some guys in sticky conditions will run the rear tires on rear wheel assist combines or cotton pickers or other harvesters backwards so that if they get into a situation where they might be getting stuck and need to reverse out, the rear wheels will dig in and "pull more" since they would then be running the CORRECT direction for maximum traction *in reverse*. It's a bad spot to be in if all the tires are set up for maximum traction *going forward* because a powered tire set up for maximum traction going forward will be running "backwards" in reverse and therefore have less traction. Later! OL J R :)
I don't really understand the principle behind the whole heavy (14ton) low power tractors idea. Here in Europe 235hp tractor has ~7.5 tons and ~7L engine, while this John Deere has ~14t and 9L engine. Could someone explain this, please?
From farming and watching alot of farming videos it is clear that here in the USA we use bigger tractor and equipment for the most part we dont have the narrow roads and less width restrictions(some state have no restrictions).Thats one reason we use duals with narrower tires and in Europe you use the wide single tires.This tractor in the video is an 8 family Deere which is the second largest John Deere family next to the 9 family.In the European videos I hardly ever see the large frame tractors,mostly the 6 family and occasionally some 7 family tractors.The farm size here is also bigger so when we get to the field with the bigger equipment we can be there all day long or longer.I would say also you guys over there have the smaller frame tractor with the high horsepower because you use your tractors for pulling everything down the road.We don't have air brakes on our tractors for trailer and wagons like you.Here we use more trucks and semis for that type of travel.I guess that why also your tractors all have a higher travel speed.Just my 2 cents.
Larger frames, more weight, and a product development specialist at Deere in the family says that 7Rs were not designed very well, and working on practically anything on the tractor requires splitting the tractor in half.
+How Farms Work There is a farmer here that's only 36years old and farms 6000+ acres and he has a 8360r and 7230r and couple big cases but his 7230r is a dog that is one sharp looking tractor. Saddle tanks all around it and a huge one in the front.
+Robert Cypress it wont thats a 8235R which is 235 hp. The 8360R is 360 hp. The last 3 digits can tell you how much hp it has. Only works for the newer JD.
surely uou get less, as for the same size single tire you have a larger footprint, more grip, less soil compaction, lower tyre temperatures on road work and less axle strain for the same ground area.
You guys are gonna need some bigger implements for this big rig and the duals! She's a beauty!
She looks good with duals all around
awesome, cant wait to see it pull a big harrow.
Very interesting. I have watched many of your videos - I know it is a hard life, but it is also a good life and during your lives you certainly learn so much more, technical, practical and leisure. I hope you keep fit and continue to work hard and enjoy what you do.
No farmers no food, someones gotta do is my moto !
Great vid mate, just letting u know to make it easier next time, run the front wheel up on some blocks, so it puts it on a angle and u can put the other wheel on with out jacking up up each side
Would have done that if we wanted to start it. It doesn't have any start assist for the cold, so that last video I made of us cold starting it was the last time it was started.
JD8235R 8 tires and 235 romping stomping horse power to pull the moon out of the sky
We do wd40 also just on the tip of the bolt screw it in 1 or 2 turns then let the impact wrench smack it in never had one come lose we actually have to use a breaker bar an 5ft pipe to loosen up afterwards.... safety first
Hey Ryan, you mentioned you decided on WD 40. What were the other choices? Did you maybe consider Never Seize? When I worked at the fertilizer plant we put copious amounts of Never Seize on all of the hardware when replacing a flange, etc. Sometimes even with the Never Seize the nuts were hard to remove from the studs.
I'm sure we'll look into it the next time we make a run for supplies. We just don't run to town very often.
That thing looks bad ass! I was wondering how what happens if you flip the tires so the tread points the opposite direction? I have heard it gives more flotation but do you get more wheel slip as well or something? what are the pros and cons of that set up? I see a lot of grain buggies with the tread reversed but not many tractors.
Running chevron (tractor) treads backwards DOES help flotation *some*, but it really reduces traction, at least going forward. The chevron pattern is used on tractor tires because when a powered wheel is turning forward with the center of the chevron contacting the ground first, any slippage or mud will be pushed out to the sides as the tire bites into the ground, which cleans the tread out and allows them to dig in and bite in more for better traction. Running the chevrons backwards on a powered axle so that the ends of the chevrons hit the soil first, tends to cause any slippage to dig the soil in towards the center of the tire-- since the dirt or mud is now "dug loose" by the slippage, it loads up the chevrons, lifts the tire slightly, and is slung out the back as a wad of dirt of mud, which increases slippage because the chevrons can't bite into the soil.
On an unpowered axle, like on a sprayer or implement, running the chevrons backwards helps to improve flotation *slightly* because the chevrons tend to pull the soil in a bit toward the center of the tire... PLUS, if the wheel sinks in and wants to start bulldozing the soil in front of it instead of turning, the soil is pushing OUTWARDS along the chevrons toward the sides (since the tire is slowing down or trying not to turn) and this allows the bars to dig in and keep the wheel turning rather than it just bulldozing up a pile of dirt in front of the tire.
Some guys in sticky conditions will run the rear tires on rear wheel assist combines or cotton pickers or other harvesters backwards so that if they get into a situation where they might be getting stuck and need to reverse out, the rear wheels will dig in and "pull more" since they would then be running the CORRECT direction for maximum traction *in reverse*. It's a bad spot to be in if all the tires are set up for maximum traction *going forward* because a powered tire set up for maximum traction going forward will be running "backwards" in reverse and therefore have less traction.
Later! OL J R :)
Nice!
Good video
hey ryan r ye going to let the duals on the tractor?
I don't really understand the principle behind the whole heavy (14ton) low power tractors idea.
Here in Europe 235hp tractor has ~7.5 tons and ~7L engine, while this John Deere has ~14t and 9L engine.
Could someone explain this, please?
From farming and watching alot of farming videos it is clear that here in the USA we use bigger tractor and equipment for the most part we dont have the narrow roads and less width restrictions(some state have no restrictions).Thats one reason we use duals with narrower tires and in Europe you use the wide single tires.This tractor in the video is an 8 family Deere which is the second largest John Deere family next to the 9 family.In the European videos I hardly ever see the large frame tractors,mostly the 6 family and occasionally some 7 family tractors.The farm size here is also bigger so when we get to the field with the bigger equipment we can be there all day long or longer.I would say also you guys over there have the smaller frame tractor with the high horsepower because you use your tractors for pulling everything down the road.We don't have air brakes on our tractors for trailer and wagons like you.Here we use more trucks and semis for that type of travel.I guess that why also your tractors all have a higher travel speed.Just my 2 cents.
I am wondering how much the front duals improved traction?
Do you need a special front axle or can a normal one handle it? Cuz I'm thinking about putting some duals on my tractor too
Looks almost new. 500 hours on it?
you mentioned earlier that you are also getting some bigger equipment. What else are you getting?
A chisel plow, hopefully. But we probably won't see one this season yet.
Maybe you've said, but where does this tractor fit into your operation?
Our new flagship, disc and chisel plow puller. Also probably our new grain cart tractor.
Would yall ever consider turning the 8235R up like the 4640 is turned up????
why it causes more money to do it
why dont you get extra bolt and cut the hex off. make a guide dowel. its easier to line up, instead of fighting the weight
what kind of Pneumatic wrench do u have?
How many acres do you guys farm?
is that tractor set up for 30 inch rows?
No, it would be awkwardly narrow or wide if it was.
it look very narrow
Work smarter not harder
i may have missed this but why an 8r series over an 7r?
Larger frames, more weight, and a product development specialist at Deere in the family says that 7Rs were not designed very well, and working on practically anything on the tractor requires splitting the tractor in half.
thanks for the return didn't realize the 7rs were having issues.
+How Farms Work There is a farmer here that's only 36years old and farms 6000+ acres and he has a 8360r and 7230r and couple big cases but his 7230r is a dog that is one sharp looking tractor. Saddle tanks all around it and a huge one in the front.
wd-40 aint worth a damn you use never seize.
+Joe Tiller WD-40 is shitty lol
I hope she got more power then that dang 8360r
+Robert Cypress THAN*
+Toby Burnam yeah ok
+Robert Cypress it wont thats a 8235R which is 235 hp. The 8360R is 360 hp. The last 3 digits can tell you how much hp it has. Only works for the newer JD.
Why do you use dual tires in the united states instead of larger tire like in europe?
Say you blow a tire. Which would cost more. One small dual or one large tire.
how much was that tractor
Law Sicard 220k
instead of WD-40 should of put anti-seize
Probably. We just don't have any and didn't feel like running all the way to town to get some. It'll be fine until we take them off again.
y did u put wd40 on the bolts?
It's better than nothing
How Farms Work
o ok.
wd40 is a agent to make the bolts not to rust
ki
why not just put wider tires on? i know practices in the us are different, but in the UK we just put a single wider tyre on each corner
Laurence Gibbs In our area it is always advantageous to spread your weight over the maximum possible area, reducing compaction.
that i agree with, however why duals not one single like 900's on the back? btw, i do find it interesting seeing farming in other countries!
You get more weight distribution with duals, you almost never see wider tires here in the US
surely uou get less, as for the same size single tire you have a larger footprint, more grip, less soil compaction, lower tyre temperatures on road work and less axle strain for the same ground area.
Laurence Gibbs your just not getting it are you?