This Screen is Awesome! // Logitech G Cloud Review
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2022
- In this review, we go over the controls, build quality, software, and emulation performance of the new Logitech G Cloud Android handheld.
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Man, if it were $199, it would be super tempting, but at $100 less than the steamdeck starter price they were going to launch at, it's a hard sell... at $350, that's a nope.
My thoughts exactly. The steam deck is just a better value overall.
It’s only $50 less than a steam deck in the US. This junk has been retailing for $350 and steam deck is $399. Steam deck is way better value than anything on the market right now for both portable gaming and for emulation
@@50086gt well, 'portable' .. its still huge
The Steam Deck can even use many of the cloud gaming services. Plus, if for whatever reason you don't have a stable 5Ghz wifi connection while on the go, you can still play Elden Ring on a Steam Deck at 30fps with a decent experience.
I agree
I bought this for streaming only. The 12 hour battery life just spanks the steam Deck and the screen blows it away. No excessive heat or deafening fan noise is a win. Everything I need.
A great screen and decent build quality, but the underpowered specs forcing you to play either low end games or stream really is a killer, especially at this price point.
No video out.
The additional cost for the brand hurts
It pretty much a android device
Streaming is the point of the device.
@@Macky4941 And it's still $350.
I own a G Cloud and a steam deck and for cloud gaming I much prefer the G Cloud. The battery life is 12 hours, it's light, the screen is vivid, and the sound is crisp and loud. The steam deck is still a great deal and if you had to choose one system I would suggest the base model steam deck.
I have a dilemma which one to choose. I'm worried about dpad that it's hard to do diagonal in Gcloaud and in steam deck that if I play quietly without a headset the fan will be loud. Can you tell which one is better?
@@vilgevorcblack6178 Personally I never found the D pad difficult to use although it all comes down to what the player is used to and what they expect out of it. As for which system is better I think it comes down to your use case. If you're focused on emulation and cloud play then I recommend the G Cloud. If you want Steam OS and ability to run steam games locally then I recommend the Steam Deck. Can't really go wrong with the steam deck but in certain cases the G Cloud is just better.
People are indeed getting the base model Steam Deck and installing bigger internal memory them selves. Many have installed 1TB internal memory.
I watched almost all CZcams reviews. Very confused about some comments. Many people do not understand why and for what we use the G Cloud. It is not a Steam Deck and not want to be. Who wants to play on the run needs always a great WiFi or GSM signal. If you not get a strong GSM signal and not own an unlimited data plan no DEVICE can stream in HD any content, games or movie. A phone is still a phone. Incoming call... game stopped. Those controllers does not make your phone a gaming device and cost if good one almost same like a 2nd hand G Cloud. In my case i never want my phone be blocked from calling at all. WiFi in public transport in Germany LOL. I use my G Cloud 90% at home. When I leave the house I am to busy to play. Hotel WiFi are mostly bad for any device. A good price for the G Cloud and it will be half the price of a Steam Deck. Bigger, better screen, not getting warm, better battery, weight !?Outside my home I have retro games and android games. The mobile phone is with me anyway.
I DO LOVE IT and for what it is, it is the best device on the market in 2023/24 for those who understand
I have been intrigued since I heard about this device and you are exactly the person I was hoping to hear from about it. Thanks for the thorough look
$350 for snapdragon 720? 🤔I really appreciate logitech for making this device but I doubt to consider buying this. I will just instead to get a 2nd hand switch for $150 then mod it. Thanks for the review Taki 😌🙏
I cannot believe it doesn't have video out. Crazy.
@@obvious_giraffe8386 TV's not created in the past 5 years? Eh... I guess you're young.
The most comprehensive and fair review of this device I've seen so far, nice work! I hope that Logitech can fix some of these issues with updates in the future. The Steam Deck introduced me to cloud gaming / remote play after trying to run some games that had trouble natively, and the G Cloud has been a much better experience for that so far. You are 100% spot on about the price.
I was hoping the Razer Edge would be 16:9, it would have been the dream remote play and streaming device otherwise.
look at the phawx’s review as well
Totally agree. For it's advertised purposes, it works better than the Steam Deck & I think $275 would be a great price.
@Sinus Lebastian I saw that too. I think Taki did a much better job. Phawx mistakenly claimed that handheld mode didn't actually close out games and completely skipped over the screen.
@@JustinPennito I think at that price point the Odin Pro is still a much better deal. If it had better analog sticks it would be almost perfect.
@@lookatyourself1999 that's literally the only difference, doesn't sound "much better" to me
Wow I simply love your reviews. Much appreciated. I have a bit of a collection and the retroid pocket 2+ and the retroid pocket 3 were my go to but since buying the logitech G cloud, it is the only device for me. When it comes to retro gaming, the screen and comfort are just so far above the rest. (Other than the steamdeck). Battery life is amazing and when you combine this with the Daijisho front end, it is just so slick. I do however agree with price being a bit high but for me just to have an amazing N64 hand held, it is worth it.
As of a couple of updates ago they've added video out support. And joystick and trigger dead zone setting.
Which I find works really well along with a paired controller.
Yep, they also added button mapping for android games that don't support controllers. Logitech has been pretty great at fixing issues with the device.
I just got one for under $200 on eBay. The retail price is wild, but for what I’m paying and for what I’m mostly going to playing on it, I’m pretty excited to be getting it. Good video.
As a Logi (astro gaming) employee and a big fan of your channel and handhelds in general, I'm glad you reviewed the Cloud! I have yet to get myself a production unit, so it's nice seeing you give this the fair Taki Udon hands-on.
Screen mapping now works. So does rumble after updating.
Nice!
For anyone watching this now, Logitech updated the software with virtual button mapping and it works very well.
Did they fix the clocks
@@dondrechsel7384who cares about clocks 😂
12:24 Tencent contribution to the device was $$$.
Screen mapping such a simple thing, yet forgotten 🤷
Another device that charges insane prices, and is broken on delivery.
These devices are so tiring. Aya devices, all of them. All are broken in something.
This whole market segment should just stop existing. Its broken to its core.
It has it
I watched almost all CZcams reviews. Very confused about some comments. Many people do not understand why and for what we use the G Cloud. It is not a Steam Deck and not want to be. Who wants to play on the run needs always a great WiFi or GSM signal. If you not get a strong GSM signal and not own an unlimited data plan no DEVICE can stream in HD any content, games or movie. A phone is still a phone. Incoming call... game stopped. Those controllers does not make your phone a gaming device and cost if good one almost same like a 2nd hand G Cloud. In my case i never want my phone be blocked from calling at all. WiFi in public transport in Germany LOL. I use my G Cloud 90% at home. When I leave the house I am to busy to play. Hotel WiFi are mostly bad for any device. A good price for the G Cloud and it will be half the price of a Steam Deck. Bigger, better screen, not getting warm, better battery, weight !?Outside my home I have retro games and android games. The mobile phone is with me anyway.
I DO LOVE IT and for what it is, it is the best device on the market in 2023/24 for those who understand
I think doing combos is harder on right side of the d-pad from all the feedback I've seen.
I think the reason you were having an easier time pulling off combos during filming is because you're on the right side of the screen doing a hadoken.
I think from that side, you should have tried a hurricane kick to see if that would register well.
The best way to test would be to compare the success rates of a hurricane kick,hadoken and dragon punch from either side of the screen.
Just adding Snapdragon 870 would've made this an interesting handheld.
Easily the most balanced review of the hardware/software capabilities so far. The price is just a killer on it's own. The lack of video out makes this a non starter for me from the off, even at half the price. I liked the comment about other Chinese handhelds getting passes from others where they should not. Also glad to see a more balanced comparison with the AYN Neo rather than the Steam Deck, which is actually north of $500 when shipping and import duties for a great many, whereas this will be available across the globe with only delivery a potential additional cost. Warranty will be easier for returns too.
Check out RetroGameCorp's review. His reviews are incredible!
I agree with you but for me the video out is not an issue as I will just play my nvidia shield on the tv with the emulators.
hey I like ! Very interesting device
👍 , but at that price point... a SteamDeck is making more sense 👍
even if the steam deck wasnt here, for what it offers its a bit pricey
Ordered it on Friday from Logitech for $250+tax with their Black Friday sale. Surprised I got it today (Sunday).
It dose have screen mapping it is call labs you need to enable it the run the game then hold down the home button and the menu will come up for the mapping 😊
Would you consider doing a new video after applying the latest firmware update? I believe screen mapping is done. I’m curious if it helps with emulation issues you mentioned or how well Xbox streaming from a local lan Xbox series x works.
Taken on its own its a good device. Like the RG552.
But like the RG552 when you take price into account then not so much.
However you can get the RG552 cheaper now, hopefully this will be cheaper as well down the track to make it worth considering.
Do you think the d-pad and face buttons are fixable via modding? Where could one purchase larger/thicker rubber membranes to improve those aspects? I'm happy with my face buttons, but the D-Pad is pretty terrible for my unit. The Right and Down are fine, but Up and Left require FAR too much force.
I feel like this should have been a $199 device. Directly comparing it to something like the Retroid Pocket 3 and the Odin, this fits somewhere in there. Given that the screen is better and performance is an increase over the RP3, we can justify an increase in price there, but the lack of optimization of the processor's performance it doesn't get to stand too close to the Odin. The Odin's SD845 is a sweet spot for performance that is hard to beat I'm this current market.
Being from a reputable company is worth a premium imo
@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 I would go with Razer Edge in that case. Much better specs for $50 more.
@@nayyarrashid4661 No, for 50$ more you go for the Steam Deck
@@NefesTOficial he might want android
The Odin exists.
Its only unfortunately just a bit of waste for the price when comparing for its competition (even for the steam deck lol).
No video out either.
@@obvious_giraffe8386 Not on every tv.
And also I was expecting like you would change your wallpaper too because I was kinda like damn this is a good handheld device
Just ordered this today! By the way they recently updated the software and it now has screen mapping! 🥳
There are a lot of issues with this package. The biggest one being that you can get a budget smartphone with a 720g (samsung a52 for example) and a Razer Kishi brand new for less than this and it has all the added versatility of being a phone. Considering all the stuff this device doesn't have and doesn't do and the relatively low end specs they really should be charging like half as much for it. If this was offered by Nvidia or Microsoft on like a subsidy program (like agree to a three year sub to the streaming service get the device on us) it'd make a ton of sense. But from Logitech it just seems super random.
wonderful looking device wish they gave it higher specs looks comfy to hold too tho I would like full size joysticks
I smile EVERY time someone shows Mega Man Legends 1 or 2 when emulating PSone. Capcom wants to pretend these games never existed, but we haven't forgotten how amazing the Legends series was & still is. Awesome device by the way. It has ways to go and maybe a second generation will be the real winner... but $350 USD? The controls really need to be fixed...
Great in depth review and I pretty much like the g cloud and would definitely buy it for about 220-250€ if i didn’t have an Odin Pro and Steamdeck already.
it's interesting to watch the handheld market, even if you are not buying
i wish lucitik released a more powerful handheld, for more native gaming/emulation
Quick resume on android for emu apps Will be a killer spec in the future.
Hi, can you tell us what dolphin version you use and what settings you set for zelda the wind waker ? I see that you get 16/9 aspect ratio, the graphics are good and it seems smooth. Thanks 🙏
I just hope ayn could get this screen.
I will pick this up happily, when it hits around $100-$135 on clearance.
Taki remember to use the 16:9 option when testing Shadow of Colossus
Always forget
The new update seems to have eliminqted the dead zones on the sticks but I bever noticed it when playing anyways. Also they added the virtual key mapper.
Does screen cast work with this? I can't find anything online that's definitive. I imagine you can't game stream and cast with WiFi 5. I saw sustained WiFi speeds were good on this, but that's not how game streaming works, and 6 or 6E would've been the best choice for in/out burst speeds.
16:10 - can we make the main cores work during these moments?
Hopefully Razer Edge will not disappoint. Specs alone will bury this device.
My used Samsung Galaxy S10e outperforms this overpriced piece of plastic.
it wont. dedicated CPU G3X Gen 1 that is made to be used with heatsink/cooler means it wont be throttlling. and the fact that it comes bundled with the kishi v2 which sells at $100 on it's own.
it's from razer it will be massively overpriced.
@@jonathanellis6097 $399 for a 144hz Full-HD+ AMOLED & Snapdragon G3X processor? I'd hardly consider that overpriced.
@@Ezio470 correct, the Kishi V2 is $100 & it does actually sell. Seeing how the Edge will have the Kishi V2 Pro, makes it's $399 price tag even more worth it. You can probably use the controller on other phones & devices too. You may, or may not, get the Pro features to work, but it'll still operate like a standard Kishi V2 otherwise.
I do like your final thought about other manufacturers getting a pass for expensive devices that are even less powerful than this, like the RG552. Yes, this is a bit overpriced, but so are some of the other emulation darlings of recent memory.
i see some that range from $600-$3,000. Something like this and a few cheapoer handhelds peak my interest.
asking this question wherever I can in hopes of an answer - if I play modded stardew valley on my pc, would my mods carry over to my G Cloud experience? all my mods on a handheld seem like the biggest upside for me
Ill buy one from the clearance rack in a year.
Screen mapping is on the gcloud I am using it right now ?
What are your thoughts on the Razer Edge?
Screen looks really good even through the video.
Around 13:02 you mentioned there are paid apps that let you gain screen mapping functionality, do you know any good ones I don’t mind paying since it can play GameCube and psp games at 60fps.
might be worth it pre-owned, would be sweet to use with shadow pc
So what's the app you use for on screen mapping?
I bought one and really wanted to love it, I had some downtime where all I had to do was wait. I bought it, so I could stream off my Xbox. I didn't do that all that well I have fast internet, still didn't do it well. Even playing games like Fortnite, there was already loose in quality and just wasn't all that enjoyable. I kept grabbing my switch more than the Logitech.
Does tablet mode support PIP? that’s the one clincher I’ve really wanted in a handhold, and would finally make it better than just using my phone. I.e. being able to play an emulator while having Netflix PIP in the corner
I was surprised that logitech was putting their hat in the handheld market, but then again sony did something similar when it entered the frey into the console market. While i love my switch oled i have been looking into other handhelds and some tend to get expensive or have long waiting list. So looking for something like this that's affordable and read. One thing i fear if if said handheld had thumbstick drift like the joycons and wonder if take it to some place get said thumbstic fixed.
Just bought this at $200 on ebay. Im so excited for steam remote play from my computer upstairs while i hang out on the couch.
I can use xcloud and emulators on my phone, laptop, tablet, steam deck... I'm literally never without some kind of device that can do it. Heck, I can even use Moonlight to stream from my PC to my Vita of all things (which can even emulate a lot of what this can). It looks like a quality device, but I just don't see much point in it these days.
I wonder if we would be able to get better firmware to unlock this chip.
Great video, definitely agree about the price but the screen and function of remote play make it worth it for me, how were you able to play switch games on it?
Have they updated it yet to allow exFat to work?
Show us how responsive using the Dpad to do Hadoken and shoryuken motions.
Hadoken is easier to do than the Shakunetsu Hadoken that I filmed in this video. I just tried Shoryuken before replying to this and didn't have issues with that either.
Most reviewers have said the D pad isnt great only OK which at this price point is not good.
what screenmapping app is he referring to? I can't even find a paid one that works anymore (and I don't like those ones that essentially clone your game)
What is the tiny Mario Kart in the thumbnail.?
What keymapping apps is best for emulators?
I wonder if it fits on the deck....
How it going Taki I have been a fan of the my old boy emulator for years but I recently found out the local link cable system on it stopped working I tryed it on many different device to make sure can you reach out to the devolopers to find out what happend I cant find any info online not to many people probly know about the local link connection system any way It was the best emulator for trading pokemon on android I feel like it might be a devoper issue maybe caused by an update
love the screen and battery life vs. the competition....and the steam deck isn't available in my region so my only option is re-sellers marking up the prices by >40-50%
@@bloodofdepanta he's referring to steam deck
@@bloodofdepanta yea spend 1000$ lol
@@B727X wrong. The Odin pro is actually less expensive than this device. Heck the Abernic Win 600 (with all of its massive problems) is even a better value than the G Cloud.
No exfat support how? Did they take it out on android? Should be just a driver....
This is going to be awesome when I eventually find it somewhere for $120 or less
Same lol
how did you map the controls for genshin??
I'm enjoying mine!
Am I the only one who would like to see a review of the odroid go ultra? 😅
I have one, its my go to handheld because of the size of the screen and its relatively low weight, the right analog stick is too close to the buttons, my only complaint.
When are you getting a loki to review ?
Is it possible for the GPU to be overclocked like the Odin?
Wait a minet where are the buttons to navigate android?
I have one and I could tell immediately playing psp the CPU is being governed hard clearly for that 12 hour battery life. Also if you use extended storage you can ftp or network share into the the SD card using something like x-plore. It took a bit of figuring it out but I got all large PS2 games on the SD card.
U think it could be overclocked cause eta emulation test showed it could play some ps2 games so if it could be overclocked it might be able to play them
@@Durkhead i don't know if a third party app exists to overclock. If they ever release a custom ROM for it then it might just run at normal clocks or the ROM creator can do it.
Some games PS2 GameCube just don't rely on clock speed as much that's why they run fine.
@@quadzilla3326 if a custom ROM is released I hope it contains the exfat driver just to use big SD cards :-)
@@kitecattestecke2303 you can still use big sdcard if you format them to fat32 (fat32 works up to 2tb) you just can't have individual files bigger than 4gb. (or 3.7ish? I forget.)
which you only would need for some ps2/3, wiiu, and switch games afaik. anything under GC won't need it.
@Real Edward J yes it supports external drives
Logit3cy says they might release an update to fix the mapping as well as control problems
I have one and I absolutely love it!! Works great for playing my Xbox remotely and playing retro games on it!
Owning a RP3+ would the G Cloud be an upgrade talking GameCube and PS2 gaming ... ?
i really love the over all design but that spec at price its a big mheeeee to mee ifffff ever gonna have an up graded version of this with decent price al grab it auto check out
If I ran a giant like Logitech or steam. I would offer Taki a fat contract to work in my company as a QA for these devices
Fat32 only support is an epic fail. $50 more, you can get a Deck. Silly stuff.
it probably supports ext4 which is a quite a decent file system since it's android
Unfortunately the steam deck has an IPS display with washed out colors and bad IPS glow (I own a 512gb steam deck). They really need to update the display to a bare minimum of a VA panel.
@@Idontwantahandle1111 I owned one for a bit, also 512gb. I thought the screen looked good for the price, only complaint really is it could've used more brightness. It's really not bad. In between the switch and the switch oled.
@@Idontwantahandle1111 you prefer va to ips? I prefer the image clarity on ips, va just looks a little too smeary for me.
Yeah the deck is the best purchase I have made recently.
There’s a few issues like when I go on the Xbox cloud, it would kick me out and then it will reboot and then reboot again and then I will tell me putting your account when I put it in through like the main software Microsoft and I will put like on my usernames. I will give me a big issue sometimes and sometimes I would have to report the issue towards Microsoft Xbox.
"if they could get this chip" shots fired
I'm kind of late but if someone see this, have there been an inprovement on 3ds, gamecube and wii emulation?
I JUST GOT THIS ON FACEBOOK MARKETPLACE FOR $200....Please do an emulation setup for this device from scratch please --- I am very excited as I just sold my Retroid Pocket 3 Plus for $150 to get this just because of the better screen.... Let me know your thoughts Taki... A subbed participant
i didnt even knew logitech made this device! how did you learn about it?
I got one for my son for Christmas for only $199 and it's a great device at that price. It has the best form factor and I like the screen size the most of any of the current handhelds. The PC handhelds are all too big/thick and all the other android handhelds screens are too small. We need a new G Cloud with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 or better, would be perfect.
The odin 2 is the only one I've seen but it has a 6 inch screen
My ps play doesn't connect but my ps remote play does, can u help?
Do you need WiFi to run emulation?
i bought this for 250 on logitech sale.. i bought it for back 4 blood and cuz i have xbox pass. hoping for the best
This is often priced more than a Switch OLED, which is crazy to me. This is a gaming accessory to Game Pass, PS (even though you need a 3rd party app) and Steam etc, not a console in itself. If this was priced around £150, it would have been such a great option. I get you can run emulators, however if your main selling point is it can play pirated games, you've missed the mark with it.
What is the max size of sd card will this take?
Sounds like this came out just a bit too late. If this launched in Q1 2022 it might have actually had a chance to entice people who were waitlisted on Odin and Steam Deck, but now that these devices are easier to get I just don't see where this fits in the line up.
You would pay 350usd for a device 6 months ago, that is worse than a switch lite?
Ok bro. You might have too much money for plastic crap. Its ok, I have enough of these small crap devices lying around, they just tempt you, but are all broken in some form or other.
The Oled Switch has a better screen, better quality control, can be homebrewed for infinite games, emulators up to psx, n64 work well...
The screen is such an important part of modern devices that you’re going to be looking at for hours at a time. Because of that I’m really considering the Razer Edge and the AYANEO 2 over the steam deck.
what game is being played at 13:13?
Which emulator are you using?
What about special moves in mortal kombat?