Fifth Wheel Hitches and the Goosebox on RVs!
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I have about 3000 miles on my Gen-Y Executive and I absolutely love the amazing ride, the space in the bed, and not dealing with the big heavy hitch- plus I tow a gooseneck equipment trailer regularly so it was a no brainer. I highly recommend the Gen-Y product
Do they have any increased sway since theres less surface area than a traditional 5th wheel pinbox?
Still rocking my Gen 1 Goose Box 3 years later, with updated Gen 2 fill valve. Love it.
I love my Andersen hitch. Light and strong.
I went with the goose box and for the bed space savings I will never go with anything else
We love our Anderson hitch with our 2018 GD Reflection 28bh. It’s quiet, light weight and easy to hook up.
Bought my first fifthwheel last month and I put a goosebox on it before I even brought it home based on watching your videos. So far I like it I have only pulled it like ten miles since I live in Wisconsin. Best part is my parking spot in my driveway requires my truck to be at about a 45 degree angle with the front of the truck being about 1.5 feet lower than the rear of the truck. I am able to hook and un hook in ways I don't think a fifthwheel could even be hooked and un hooked.
As always JD, I come away better educated about RV towing when you choose that subject to review. It's great we have so many choices in the RV field to choose from and being educated about them is critical. Thanks so big, bill in Florida
Switched from a travel trailer to a 5th wheel last fall. Originally I wanted the companion hitch, but the dealer I was buying my 5th wheel from talked me into the goose box. I am SO GLAD THEY DID. I LOVE my goose box.
Very good video. I've owned 3 different fifth wheel hitches, Reece, Curt, and B&W Companion. The B&W Companion is by far the easiest to use. The Reece and Curt were difficult to hitch up a fifth wheel in uneven terrain. The B&W seem to tolerate uneven terrain better than the other two I've owned.
Thanks for the quick turnaround on my video idea from FB. You answered my questions perfectly.
I moved up to a Fifth Wheel a few weeks ago. I chose the Curt Crosswing. Since getting the trailer on June 16th we've traveled just short of 4k miles. It's easy to connect. Confident connection and I feel secure towing. We have a 36' Flagstaff Super Lite, so it's not any where near it's capacity.
Thanks JD, I know this is from a year ago, but it's what I was interested in for a future wish list.
I had a 1st gen and now have a 20k 2nd gen. I love it
Thinking of a 5th wheel. This provides quite a bit of info for hitches. Thank you for sharing.
Yesterday I watched at least 50 folks leave the campground. I bet at least 75% had too small of a truck. This included TT and 5ers. It is scary what people do. Really like this video. Outstanding.
I like the curt because of the way it wraps around the pin. Just gives me more confidence that it won’t slip out. Of course I know none of them will but the looks of the curt gives me a little more peace of mind.
I really like the goose box. I've seen the GenY gooseneck hitch but haven't seen any reviews as yet. Thanks for the review and information JD.
Let’s get all of these changes on the version 3 of the goose box
I purchased an GenY goose neck hitch on a 2021 Highland Ridge, Mesa Ridge with 15,500 GVWR and let me tell you, Wow! The ride is much smoother and stuff in the camper doesn’t seem to spill all over that much anymore. I used to have a B&W Companion but had to change setup when I upgraded to the 21 GMC 3500HD.
Great video. Getting ready for a new truck, and contemplating going from the Companion, to something else.
Your video has me considering going to something like this.
Thanks for posting the video.
Just ordered the Gen-Y torsion gooseneck box for my fifth wheel.
Wow, this is cool!
Glad to hear you like this goose box. I'm getting a flat bed installed with a gooseneck already in it. I like the fact there's no adapters this way. Plus getting full articulation at a lower price is nice too. The Reese is what I was planning to go with and I do believe you've secured my decision. Thanks for the review!
Due to me running a short bed truck and coming with a gooseneck set up for my cattle trailer. I've ran the Andersen for 4 years now and love it, that being said, when I upgrade to a bigger trailer I'm not sure what I'll do for the next hitch.
I love this particular air ride goose neck over the Gyn-Y because of the “air ride” aspect which the “Gyn-Y” does not have. We’ve had great success and comfort with the “Reese Goose Box.” Highly recommended.
I absolutly LOVE my goose box!!!!!
That newer frame your were talking about is equipped with the rhino pin box, the front beam is a 6x6 steel tube vs a 6x2 on all the other frames. Also extra bracing throughout the frame. At least that's what I was told. I ended up going with the gen y, mainly because goosebox doesnt work with the rhino pin box. Have heard they are making one to fit it though sometime this summer. Gen y is also going through the approval process with lippert but not approved as of right now. That's all I know 😀
Great video. Interesting that you will likely go back to the Goosebox. We have Andersen and love it, but I would love to switch to the Goosebox and not deal with hitch at all.
Plus advantage of Goosebox, no tug test required on a Goosebox/ball vs 5th wheel king pin, it gave me nearly 3” more clearance.
In the process of deciding
Thank you!
also goose box is amazing in support! i had a slight sway/twist issue that was from the suspension not quite aligned and they still gave me a new one to replace the one that twisted slightly. it was a very slight twist too. probably would have been fine. awesome company!!!!!!!
I love my reese goose box got the same set up as you thanks.
Thanks for video. I bought a Gen Y 5th wheel to gooseneck conversion with auto latch. Gen Y going through the testing with Lippert (Mr. Truck video with owner) Lots of RV forums where people are using them. I pick up our new fifth wheel in a couple weeks....can't wait to install.
Nice job JD!
Love the Gen 2 goosebox on a Momentum 353G. Suggestions for improvements in convenience. Have holes on the side for chain stowage. Extend release cable further back for easier reach from tailgate. Keep the airbag.
Good and informative. Thanks.
Nice video. I have my Gen-Y hitch sitting in the bed of my truck waiting for our new 5th wheel to come in. I like the fact of having the bed relatively open plus getting a bit older and not as easy to lift out a big hitch assembly out of my bed. Was hoping to see you do a review on the Gen- Y before I got it but I went ahead with it- I think it will work great, not a fan of the airbag on the Goosebox. Keep the video coming.
Thanks. Very informative
Love my 2nd gen Goosebox. Will never use anything else. My 2003 8’ long bed Dodge Ram is a perfect fit to this hitch.
I run the 2nd gen 20k goosebox on my 2018 momentum 395M. Put about 55psi in the bag and have towed for about a year with it and have had no issues. I did have some reservations about the pin weight but have been very pleased with it so far
Thank you for sharing
I would love to see you do a review of the turning point pin box. It's very unique where you can move the pivot point from the pin to where the box attaches to the fifth wheel.
We are using a BlueOx hitch attached to our gooseneck ball. It has a large footprint but the way it is designed it is easily removed and camping gear can be packed all around it with no interference. But most importantly there is little to no chucking in the truck and the 5th wheel. We pack gear in the camper even on the counters and it is still in place when we arrive. We have over 65,000 miles on this hitch with no issues.
I totally agree, I’ve been using mine for a couple of years now too. It’s a great hitch that nobody seems to look at it.
I'd be very interested in your review of a Gen-Y gooseneck 5th wheel hitch. Prior to this video I'd never heard of it. Based on your previous reviews I've been leaning towards the Reese goose box.
I have the Gen-y executive and the biggest reason I did is there are no air bags, air lines, or air valves to go bad, freeze, or crack. I don't know if those torsion points will last a life time but it surely has to last longer due to less components right?
@@derrickbarnett1771 Thanks for sharing your experience! Are you happy with the way it performs then?
I haven’t had it very long but I do like it a lot more than a standard pin box.
Saving my pennies for a Goosebox!!!
Just watched this, and then your install video from way back, and now I can't see why anyone wouldn't want this Goose Box vs the traditional 5th wheel hitch. Seems like a no brainer.
I love my goosebox
Just tried the 2nd Gen 20k Reese on my Momentum 397TH with the B&W Ford Puck kit on my 2021 F450. Fit perfectly, I could get a full 90 in the parking lot if needed. The F250 I had briefly with it would hit the bed rail and or cab of the truck. I've also read, that Lippert frame warranty was fine with the Reese goose box...hopefully that's true.
I want the Reese on mine, but having a trailer with a 20klb GVWR, I want to wait until they have one rated at 25k or higher. Like my truck, I want the Reese to be capable of more than what I have.
Would love to see you do a review on the gen Y executive. I’m debating between those 2 for our GD Solitude.
In the AGRICULTURAL sector in EUROPE,
and now spredding fast across the planet,
are two ball diametres (of a set of four sizes)
that have become the de-facto-standards
for primary tow hitch
(two additional balls are often used to provide mechanical steering-linkage connections
to steered trailer-axles).
For the Primary Tow-Coupling the two Towing-Ball Diametres to have caught on
are 80 mm (3" & 5/32) known as K80
and 110 mm (4" & 21/64).known as k110
As an example of capacity the K80 combinations are (as far as I can see)
available in ratings of up to
34Tonne (almost 75 thousand pounds) TOWED (horizontal) , & 4T VERT .
The ratings of other two larger sized would be proportionally bigger, I suspect.
In contrast to car ball heads, there is no locking below the coupling
(fatter stud),
an alternative system being used to clamp the spoon into contact with the ball.
(this allows for a thicker, more robust SHANK to connect the ball-head).
A little less common (so far) is the K150 (150mm = almost 6" dia.)
this is only used on VERY HEAVY combinations.
Often one, or, a pair of 50 mm (almost 2") K-50 supplemental balls
mounted one on each side of the primary-towing-ball,
connect steering linkages, that can steer the trailer axles,
in proportion to the degree of articulation relative to the towing vehicle.
" .... A K50 ball (or pair of K50 balls) on the side of the K80
makes it possible to couple forced steering devices
with no play and in a stable manner. ....."
These are usually referred to as "Ball & Spoon" couplings.
for more info. search:
k80 k110 & k150 Ball & Löffel kupplung DIN, ISO or EN standards
Sadly, USA, standardizes, whatever is DIFFERENT to the rest of the world
(despite being only 4% of the human population).
While these started out as "European" & "Agricultural"
they are increasingly becoming the popular format internationally in transport.
I'm another one that wishes you could try the Gen Y. I hate it isn't approved currently.
I have a heavy Luxe Toy Hauler 48FB. Pin is 6040 and total trailer weight is 26600. I still have and have used the B&W puck mount, Andersen and Gen-Y goose. I can tell you the Gen-Y is the best of the three and rated the highest weight wise. Liked both the Andersen and B&W too but they aren’t up to the task with the Luxe.
Regarding Lippert not approving the Gen-Y...look at the mechanical drawings for the MorRyde cushion pin box (which Lippert approves) and compare that to the Gen-Y. Bottom line is the Gen-Y puts less stress on the frame. There is no air bag to leak like the Reese (which I’ve never used). I believe, and several folks with inside knowledge have confirmed to me, the Lippert/Gen-Y approval is more about $$ than engineering.
Understand your comment about not wanting to take a chance and I didn’t either but the facts are apparent if you have limited knowledge of physics after you compare the drawings. Bottom line I don’t think Lippert would fail to honor a warranty claim by me and definitely not by you with your reach and influence in the CZcams world.
I spent a lot of money on the Luxe and I put the best pin box on there for the unit based on facts and not some approval rating that might not be rooted in engineering facts.
Anyway like lots of other folks on here I’d like to see you review the Gen-Y goose on your new RV. Your comments about the air bag and overhanging mass are both resolved by the Gen-Y. If you call Jason at Gen-Y I’m pretty sure he would donate one for you to try. Those guys are top notch customer service and some of the friendliest people I’ve met.
Love your channel and keep up the good work.
Pinbox all the way
The only thing keeping me from switching to a goosebox is that I can’t find any comparison info, on the stability in high winds, between that and a conventional 5th wheel pin box. I travel for a living and sometimes am forced to travel in less than ideal wind conditions. Would love to see you discuss that.
I have the gen 2 goose box on my 5th wheel.. the only complaint I have is having to climb up into the bed to hook up.. 2019 Ram 2500 Cclb/ 2014 Puma 5th wheel
LCI says they don’t approve the Gen Y version of the goose box, but the gen Y system looks pretty good…Thoughts?
I am also interested in this we are thinking of switching with a new TV from anderson ultimate hitch to gooseneck and like the gen y torsion seems like a better hitch then the goosebox.
Great video, have you tried the Reese sidewinder and is it safe in yours opinion?
Is the Goosebox smoother than Companion? If smoothness were the ONLY concern (ie. no care about cost, weight, bed availability, etc.) which would you go with?
One of the hitch companies let you turn the ball upside down and put it back in the hole to store it.
I’m worried about the pin box frame. Ours was cracked as well as a Montana. Both had standard fifth wheel hook ups.
And chance you could keep an eye out for the 2021 Rockwood Mini Lite 2509S for a review?
What about a review on the Pullrite 2600?
I have been using the Trailersaver BD-5 Hitch. Try that out for awhile. I don't think you will ever go back to anything else.
Hello, I love watching your videos. Thank you for all the content. I do have a question about the Goose Box, Does it void the factory warranty of most manufacturers? I am asking because when i was looking to get into going into 5th wheel the sales person at Camping world in Nashville told me that I can not go with a Goose Box because no warranty or insurance will cover it.
Can you do a review of the turning pin box?
Isn’t it true that the Gen Y and the Reese goosebox are typically best in an 8’ box? Would like to pull the trigger on either but am afraid of loosing that 6” between truck and camper besides the potential of hitting cab in an awkward position. Would like to see a fix for us standard box pickup owners.
Hello thinking about this hitch for my new Chevy 2500 6.5’ bed. What’s your thoughts using it with a shorter bed? Also interested in the Pullrite 2600 or Andersen.
Are the gooseneck hitches as smooth of a ride as the companion hitch?
As a noob, it would have been helpful to show a quick picture of what hitch type you are talking about, all hooked up for reference, because I have absolutely no idea what you said based on names and what these arms look like. I’ll figure it out but for us laymen, a pic really helps when this is all so foreign.
what kind of goose box lock setup that is on for the Reese gen 2 pinbox
Is the GENY Tortion Flex approved by Lippert? I have been eyeballing that pinbox for awhile now. I love the Reese but not the whole airbag setup.
JD, do you know if GEN Y been approved by Lippert for mounting? Last I heard they were not certified by Lippert yet.
JD I want to go with the goosebox but I’m worried the 20k isn’t big enough for my rig. Fully loaded my rig is about 19k is that pushing the limits of the 20k goosebox?
Why don’t trailer manufacturers just use a gooseneck style frame?
So is it in the plans to listen to you and will Reese change the design a bit? I just ordered a goose box I can return it if improvements are going to be made.
So now I'm confused...For F250 with a 6.5ft bed what hitch is best for a 16k 5th wheel? The Reese GB or the Anderson Hitch???
Could not help but notice that bedroom slide does not seem to be in and secure for travel... is it out of adjustment??
I personally have no use for a goose box or any gooseneck hitch. I love my 5th wheel hitch and convert my GN trailers to king pins. The minor loss of bedspace is a non issue for me and the MUCH faster and easier hookup and disconnect of the 5th wheel far outweighs any GN benefits FOR ME.
it has to take more time than a hitching to a B&W companion right? So a 5th wheel hitch still might be better if you are hitching up a lot?
It really comes down to how accurat you are a backing under a Gooseball. You would also have chains to connect, but overall the time difference is marginal at best.
Will there be a day when you review a Gen-Y Executive Goose? There's a gen 2 with auto latch now.
They actually started with the auto latch and moved to the pin and then back to the auto latch
I too would like him to review this hitch!!
I have the Gen-Y with the auto latch. It is easy to connect the RV, but it is difficult to detach the RV because I have to pull the release cable while simultaneously lifting the RV. My wife has to operate the jacks while I pull the release cable.
I got my Gen Y with the auto latch last year. Easy peezy!
Great video! I am thinking about going to a 5er and like the goose box. How would I know if the goose box would void the warranty of the RV?
Goosebox is approved by LCI for their frames
@@BigTruckBigRV Thanks! Is Lippert the primary manufacture of RV chassis?
@@BigTruckBigRV today I bought an Alliance Valor. Found out it has a Rhino box. Had to leave it at the dealer when my goose box wouldn't fit. The bolt pattern is off by 3/8". I also heard today that Reese is coming out with a GooseBox in Q4 to fit the bolt pattern of Alliance's Rhino Box. Do you have any connections at Reese that I can use to verify this?
Can you make a gen y goose neck conversion video?
It seems that if Reese moved that attachment point forward, that the stress would be multiplied by quite a lot.
It would depend on the design. If they removed material from the front it wouldn't change
Any updates on Reese making a goosebox over 20K 4000lb pin capacity? I heard rumor of it over a year ago but haven't heard since.
We have a Trail Air hitch on our fifth wheel, it's an open range 38 and half feet. We been pulling our trailer with it for 8 years and haven't had any issues but we are planning to buy a new 5th wheel within a year and I'm wondering if you just take what you get when you buy a 5th wheel or can you request a different hitch system?
Depending on the dealer. You can typically pay for an upgrade that they should install
@@BigTruckBigRV what do you think of the trail air system?
Would the Reese Goose box work well in a short bed truck?
Could you review the gen y pin box?
I absolutely live my Gen-Y executive 5th wheel gooseneck. The ride is very smooth, and quiet. It is easy to attach the RV. My only complaint is that it is difficult for me to pull the cable to release the latch while simultaneously lifting the RV off the ball. It is really a 2-person job to detach the Gen-Y.
JD, would you recommend a goosebox for a short bed Superduty? I have to use a B&W companion slider now, to give me the clearance when backing, and I'd LOVE to have a goosebox so long as I didn;t loose any cab clearance for manuevering.
It's truck and trailer dependant. Different combos will have different clearances.
I’ve been looking at the Andersen myself but my local dealer suggested I also look at the Pulrite SuperLite. Has anyone used the Pullrite and what was your experience? I’m getting fat and old and frankly yanking my B&W out to use my bed is no longer something I want to do.
We have been using the anderson and it has been great. 18k toy hauler no clunking or chucking. Only downside is you need to watch your cab if you have a short bed in tight turning situations.
I’ve got the pullrite superlite and it is amazing! Super easy to hook up and unhook and also super easy to put in and take out of the bed
Thank you Titan, I was really looking at the Andersen, A Lot, but I had one thing holding me back and that's the safety chain requirement in the State of Texas for that setup. Not that having safety chains is a particularly difficult issue, it's just an additional cost and items I have to keep track of. Still, I liked the Andersen, but my question was around the Pullrite. Thanks for the reply Austin Loomis. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. The two hitches are roughly the same price, but just tweeked a little. The Pullrite doesn't require safety chains which is a huge plus. It's a tad heavier then the Andersen but WAYYYY lighter than my B&W. Thanks again to both of you, I appreciate the feedback.
I'd love a goosebox but unless I can find a wing set and have it welded on my flagstaff I'm stuck with my reese revolution in looking to get the Anderson ultimate fifth wheel connection
They have a wing kit
I've heard that haven't been able to find it multiple calls to lippert and reese both tell me I need to have something fabricated and according to forestriver and lippert welding on the frame voids my warranty which defeats the purpose of buying a new trailer if would have done more research on what a reese revolution pin box was I wouldn't have bought my coach the bw companion slider I have is just way to big and cumbersome
How was the winter camping in Texas?... everyone safe i take it?
Do you need to dump air from the goosebox air bags at disconnect then refil at connect before towing? If yes, then that would be a ginormous pain especially for a short stay. I seem to recall discussion about that from a previous video.
When I took a weekend trip I did not let air out of the bag. But when I parked It for a few months I did let some out and refilled it next time I hooked up. Only towed my camper 3 times with the goose box and absolutely love it.
No. On my Gen 1 I did, but not on the Gen2
@@BigTruckBigRV THX for that clarification. I am intrigued by the goosebox.
What’s the solar on the hitch for?
I have a question, what's the best hitch lock for a bumper pull trailer?
Several are good. Ft Knox Locks and Proven Industries are great
You mentioned the Gen-Y take on the goosebox, are you aware of their status when it comes to frame manufacture's approval? Gen-Y seems to have gone all in, in virtually all segments with their torsion-flex system and I've not heard many negatives.
It's currently not approved by LCI.
Do you think I would hit on my short bed 2020 f250?
How do you determine what size (weight) do you need in a 5th wheel hitch?
Gross vehicle weight of the trailer i would guess
Why did you cut the carpet up in a big square?
Anyone know what make/model of hitch lock that is (it's yellow) attached to the Reese Goose Box in this video?
Fort Knox Locks.. I've reviewed several of them.
@@BigTruckBigRV - Thank you sir!
I recall a one of your videos at a convention and you spoke with a representative form blue ox regarding the Blue Ox BXr6200 hitch. By the design it seems like you would have both easy installation and the durability of a traditional fifth wheel hitch. But for some reason it's so damn hard to find info on this hitch. Do you or anyone else have experience or knowledge with the blue ox?
I have been using the blue Ox for a couple of years now. I really enjoy the ride, dampens any shocks from the fifth wheel to the truck.
Rocking the hitch back to gain turning radius for the short bed is very simple and sturdy, also removing it in three easy pieces makes it nice.
I would recommend the blue Ox to anyone that is going to stay with a traditional pin box.
@@TheDesertdawg1 Thanks for the info. It's strange to me that the blue ox hitch hasn't gained popularity. Their products overall have a good reputation.