Proper removal of rocksett
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2019
- This is the correct, and only correct way to break rocksett free. Rocksett is used in gunsmithing for mounting and securing suppressor mounts. Do not use a torch to heat rocksett for removal, use hot boiling water. Will come off clean every single time with minimal residue and resistance.
My girlfriend walked in on me watching this video and she gave me the most confused look before asking, “Why is he boiling his rifle?” Lol.
What she actually said was “ why are you watching some guy broiling his rifle instead of your usual porn” 😂😂😂😂
Tried everything including torches to no avail. This worked flawlessly.
Thanks.
Instructions unclear, now I have a hole through my stove.
Just tried this and it works like a charm. 10 minutes of boiling and a few taps on brake and threaded off with ease 🤟
Just did this and it worked! Soaked in boiling hot water for 10 minutes and soaked in simmering water for 5 minutes. You, sir are a genius!
My savage 110 haymaker in 450 bushmaster did come off with this method. I first tried 5 minutes, then 10 minutes. It did not budge. Now, I was trying to remove it with vise grips. I know "vise grips" I was not going to keeping it. Replacing with a better one.
Next was 20 minutes in boiling water and a pipe wrench. It came off easy. Better grip and leverage.
The factory muzzle brake was completely round and no area for a wrench and no knurling either.
Thanks for putting up this video.
worked great. I had no idea how to remove the welds on this 2" muzzle Brake on my O.A.L. 14 brand barrel. Soaked it in boiling water for 10 minutes and took a Milwaukee Porta-band to it and it came right off. Two days later the dog house had its door kicked in at 6A.m. just a week after the day light savings time change the security camera was taped over and my dog was shot in the head by a group of unknown assailants parading as police officers and ATF agents.
How much of this is true
Im glad there are smart guys like you doing these videos ! 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks, finally got rid of my comp that was like welded on, great tip! Have a great day from Sweden!
Worked like a charm for me!!! Thank you!
Can't believe how well this worked. 10 minutes in the bath and the muzzle brake came off with very little effort.
"Oh hunny, what are you making?, I can't quite name the smell"..... I'm making Freedom
😂😂😂
100% JUST DID THIS. 5min AND NICE AND EASY I LOVE YOU
This just makes sense. I'm always amazed at the amount of professionals that teach us wrong. They torched Surefire Warcomp off and I was pissed.
Worked like a charm. Thank you sir!
This ranks up there with aligning your gas block and port with uncooked spaghetti (instead of those little plastic gizmos from Brownells). Who knew?
Anyone that read the instructions. I couldn't help it, sorry in advance.
🤦🏼♂️ idk how I never thought of this.
And the best part is, once you're done working on your AR you can throw the pasta in the boiling water and have a quick dinner.
@@TimAyro yea im sure theres a lot of "good stuff in there" bon apetite senior brother
Confirm this works. Had a Sico ASR that I rocksett on several years back, swapping in a new barrel and that muzzle device was going nowhere. Boiled, removed, put upper on reaction rod, put on a barrel nut wrench and BAM it came off.
cant wait to try this , that break is on there good
This is why Rocksett is so great. I used it on both my HK SP5, and SP5K thread protectors. I was worried about them coming loose enough to not be able to remove my suppressor that I have a 3 lug attachment on.
Thanks for posting this!
Looks appetizing
Big thumbs up. Works for me in 4 minutes.
Lifesaver bro. Thank you.
Question how do you simply remove the adjustment out of the block?
This is how I got my Sig Spear LT muzzle device off. It may be overkill for the rockset but it works.
Thanks man this helped alot.
You're a saint, buddy. : )
Don’t know what I would have done without ya hah thank you much good sir
Well maybe not still wouldn’t come off had it in for 5 minutes 10 minutes and 20 minutes and broke the wrench on the third try and never budged
Been trying my damnedest to pull the AAC flash hider from a Bushmaster XM15 3-Gun. Hoping this method works.
Did it work? I was able to remove one flash hider but tried another and it wouldn't budge. I didn't hold the muzzle in the water for 10min though, more like multiple tries of 5min.
This is the perfect video since my gun is FDE
Thank you so much, it worked.
thanks i did this and it worked really well. but im in panic mode i dont have any gun oil until tomorrow, will this hurt the gun in any way corrosion wise you think? will be less than 24 before i can oil it up. (yes i am new to the gun world). feel like im hard stressing
Awesome info thanx.!
Dude... THANK YOU!!!!
How about on a gas block? Pour, heat, repeat?
thanks, I wonde rif that would help me to get my barrel nut off...
No idea what it is fixed with.
482f with a hot air blower did nothing
Mr79dream what kind of rifle is it? Are you using a breaker bar? Who made it? Correctly made rifles should have shell aeroshell grease on the threads, and the barrel nut tq’d to 40-80ft lbs of tq
@@jvallow I tried with a 3 foot handle.
It's Schmeisser, German make and model.
They might have glued it, in order to overly comply to german regulations.
It's not necesarry to glue it, but maybe they wanted to be on the safer side :-/
(the thinking was prob, that it is impossible to remove the barrel with housholt tools, since the barrel nut would only need a fork)
Thanks for the tip. Do you think applying heat with a heat gun (not a torch) can also work well? Thanks!
Rocksett can withstand temps up to 2,000 F. No, a heatgun won’t work. Boiling water is the easiest and manufacturers recommended way to soften it.
@@Jcreek201 but 212 degree water works fine?
@@jamesbrown4153 I know this is an older thread but I'm going to reply anyway.
Rocksett is water soluble. And without getting into the physics of it, heating up water allows it to work more efficiently in breaking down the bond that the Rocksett has created. The water really gets in there and "dissolves" it. Think about it this way; you don't clean your dishes with a blowtorch (hopefully). Yes, it's going to burn the heck out of everything left on them. But you're going to be left with char and whatnot that's still stuck to the plates. But if you soak those same plates in hot water, everything loosens up and you can wipe it off. That's a simplified explanation. But that's pretty much the gist of it.
Maybe i just need to leave it in longer but tried with barrett mrad.
5 min tried 5 more min tried 5 more min tried and wont budge 😢
This didn’t work for me so after checking out a few forums this is what worked:
I boiled water then added soap and let the muzzle brake soak for 8 hours
Every 2-3 hours or so id add more hot or boiling water near the brake
After that I took a mallet/ hammer and tapped every corner of the brake
Dipped the brake in lubricant
Put it in a vice, then with a armorers wrench connected to a torque wrench it came off without much trouble
The original brake had a lot of rocksett on it so don’t forget to use acetone (Polish remover) or uncure on the threads after and scrape rocksett off or same thing will happen again.
Hope this helps!
Thank You Sir 👍🇺🇲
Does this not pose a risk of rusting the barrel or anything tho?
@Jared Vallow So no need to clamp with a vice? Just unscrew with a wrench after?
A good upper receiver vice that interfaces with the lugs of the barrel extension is absolutely always recommended when putting any kind of tq on the upper receiver group. I recommend the Geissele Reaction Rod, or the more budget friendly Magpul Bev Block, both found on Brownell’s or Midway USA.
@@jvallow Midwest has a better option than the Geissele. The URR.
@@hellcatdave1 +1. Midwest Industries URR is the way.
Tried it,didn't work on my comp on my glock
Wonder if this work on the new ruger ranch gen 2
Did this today on a Sig Spear LT with the notoriously hard to remove flash hider. 25 minutes of boiling and the hider came right off, easy peasy.
I’m about to do this on my spear 300blk. I heard because of the taper, this wouldn’t work but if you say it does, then I’m gonna try it
It worked swell. About 25 min in boiling water, then in a vise with leather and soft jaws protecting the barrel, and used a DeWalt driver in reverse (lefty loosey) with whatever socket best fits over the sig device (3/4 if I remember correctly). Wipe the taper and threads clean asap.
Is it possible to fix back the removed plastic orange flash hider pinned to the non threaded barrel?
Not sure what you are talking about.
You need to boil it that long and hot? No one not even the manufacturer told me this. Thanks
Thanks I was fucking short of a saw and making an sbr 😂
Lol yo I’m finna try this fam! I’m switching from ASR TO KEYMO
I want to do the exact same thing!
I'd oil the barrel inside and out after that plus all the steel internals. Otherwise that's AWESOME!
treat it like a flood gun, WD40, then cleaning, then oil
Will this work if your flash hider is just stuck without any loctite?
Rocksett is not loctite. This works on rocksett because it is water soluble. Loctite is not. It will take more heat than boiling water (tops out at 212 degrees F) to remove loctite. It takes vastly more heat to loosen up rocksett but it is the water that does it. This also works with cold water, btw. It just works faster with hot water. If your flash hider is stuck without any loctite you might try a barrel vise (make sure it isn't actually pinned). If it is really stuck and you try to torque it off using a geissele reaction rod or other device that holds it up at the upper receiver you could mess up the barrel extension.
It doesn't cause any rust?
no seasoning ?
But...... what was the final result?
Sweet thanks
So in the instructions it says to heat to 175 degrees to cure the rocksett. So does a small amount of hear cure it, and a large amount of heat melt it?
Eli Blakley it’s the water that breaks it down
@@jvallow ahh gocha. So if I heat it with a heat gun for 15 minutes at 175 degrees, it's cured and ready to shoot?
@@EliBlakley You want to wait 24 hours.
No luck what so ever. gsmith mounted dead air break on a proof. boiled twice and soaked for 8 hrs so far... Any suggestions?
Rocksett is water soluble so the only way I know of is to soak it in water and let the bond deteriorate
You know, that’s not the first time I’ve heard of someone not being able to get a muzzle device off of a proof barrel.
@@jvallow hi how are you, I have a sig mpx k 4.5 inch barrel and trying to remove the 13.5x1 muzzle brake will that method work as well
Holy shit you saved me a headache
My girlfriend came home from work while i had my C308 barrel propped up in a boiling pot and burst into laughter, and asked: "Are you that hungry?"
Yes sir.
Is this damaging in any way to the barrel?
If you get it wet and then throw it in your gun safe, yes. If you boil the muzzle and then clean and lube it then it isn't an issue at all.
wouldnt the steam going up the barrel cause rust
no, your barrel is nitrated or chrome lined, which makes it resistant to rust. This isn’t gonna hurt it.
Don't forget to clean it when you are done.
Anyone know why this works? The gun likely gets hotter than that during shooting.
My guess the water gets into the threads better and dilutes the solution as well as heating it
It's a water that brakes down the rocksett, not the heat
@@romang6437so could you just soak without heat?
I have the same set of pots and the same counter tops lol
Maybe he’s at your house?! 😂
Sig is Rocksetting all their flash hiders now
Does this work on loctite?
Not really. Rocksett is water soluble. First of all, don't use loctite on a muzzle device. It gets well beyond the temp rating of loctite unless you are just popping off one round at a time. Second....if you have used loctite, take your holding fixture and torque loosening tool to the range with you and get it set up. Do a mag dump, clear the weapon (safety first), and then try to remove the muzzle device. It will come off like there was never loctite there to begin with.
Smart is all i can say and im not being sarcastic im serious that is some good thinking let the boiling water do it for you heat is heat period
Guess I'm the only one this didn't work for lol tried two different times in 10 minute baths shit still won't come offff
My bad !! thought you said 3 to 5 rounds. let me mop this mess
Did it for 20 min and still nothing
I did everything you did but for 10 mins and the Surefire Warcomp isnt even budging one bit. The surefire proprietary nut that I attached to a wrench to unscrew the warcomp which was firmly placed on a vice still didnt even work. The surefire nut is literally bent to the point of no return and my wood table has cracks
There could be more going on, like a pin and weld job. I’d recommend getting it in to a good gunsmith.
ohhhhhhhh, freedom tea
Will doing this boiling water hurt my cerakoted barrel in any way? Please help.
It shouldn’t no
spray paint your rifle.
If it doesn’t work add some dish soap
I prefer to call it gun soup
I totally screwed my kompensator. Even my gunsmith is struggeling
Mines still stuck. Fml
Let it go longer, then turn the stove off, let it soak a few hours. What muzzle device is it? Are you sure it’s not a pin and weld job?
By this time you probably got it undone but I had mine in water for about 30min, after 15min I turned the stove off and let it soak for the other 15min. Put the upper on the vise and pum came loose like nothing. @Jared thanks for the short but really helpful video man.
Lol I got it off guys. Thanks though.
I certainly don't mean this in the way you'll likely take it, but honestly I'm glad to hear a bunch of y'all are having issues. I'm just not interested in 🖊 & 🌋ing my 14.5"
lol my dumbass put Rocksett on the 8 bolts holding my AR handguard 🤣 I'M A SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID lol...
So how do we know this is the “proper way” when you didn’t actually do anything?
Still seems a PITA to do if you remove muzzle devices occasionally. For all practical purposes, I presume a healthy amount of red threadlock works fine for anything short of a few mags of full-auto.
Suppressors are where Rocksett becomes necessary
Wouldn't red locktight be worse? You would need a torch and that could possible damage stuff.
@@dancortes3062 Suppressed weapons can easily get hot enough to melt red Loctite.
Red locktite offers zero threadlock at 400° F standard operating temp after 3 mags are run through your gun. Vso tests it on camera
Lol
No fucking way….
20 minutes first go round....
nothing,,, starting to strip the muzzle device
sighh let's try it again for another 20
edit.. let it sit for another 45 minutes used a hand vise grip.
nothing,
Good way to cause rusting faster.
Don't use the crap to begin with