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    This is Jonathan's father's old computer, a beautiful relic from the 80s. Only thing is, after
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Show and Tell
    0:54 Introducing David Murray
    2:29 Step 1 - Fixing the Disk Drives
    5:37 Thanks Newegg!
    6:02 Step 2 - Trying the Computer
    9:20 Step 3 - Cleaning the Dang Thing
    11:24 Do we retrobrite?
    13:03 The Reveal!
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Komentáře • 743

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy Před 7 měsíci +3300

    Thanks for having me on the show!

    • @TheCasualSubculturist
      @TheCasualSubculturist Před 7 měsíci +93

      David!! It's good to see you on... wait.. LMG video of all places.

    • @thegoldmolar
      @thegoldmolar Před 7 měsíci +16

      can i hold 30 bucks

    • @ijmad
      @ijmad Před 7 měsíci +29

      Love your channel and seeing a LMG / Mac Address collab was unexpectedly cool!

    • @ruipratz429
      @ruipratz429 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Love your channel! Much love!

    • @collared
      @collared Před 7 měsíci +7

      8bit guy on lmg video is the collab we didnt know we needed until it happened

  • @jameslangridge8849
    @jameslangridge8849 Před 7 měsíci +137

    AFAIK there is no evidence to suggest that after retrobriting plastic yellows any faster. It may continue to yellow at the same rate as before, and the sunlight or heat that caused the yellowing can make the plastic brittle, but it I've found no evidence that it speeds up at all. I'd love to see a study on this in more depth, but sadly I've not found any. Thanks for doing something retro Mac Address team ♥️

    • @BEdmonson85
      @BEdmonson85 Před 7 měsíci +29

      Yeah, it's statements like that guy made, that got LMG in so much hot water recently.

    • @Sozzled39
      @Sozzled39 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@BEdmonson85 people's experiences of retrobriting varies. I've done an Amiga 600 that went yellow again within a year. Others have done theirs and it's stayed white. Nobody really knows why!

    • @TheLimeyDragon
      @TheLimeyDragon Před 7 měsíci +8

      A lot of the issue is just different variables... the kind of plastic, the age of the plastic, the environment it sits in afterwards and then you get comments based on multiple people's different experiences and you get a game of telephone.

    • @mattsword41
      @mattsword41 Před 7 měsíci +2

      There's a superb @heybirt video on the subject of retrobrighting that separates fact from fiction

    • @tankgrrl
      @tankgrrl Před 7 měsíci +5

      Same. My Amiga 1200 was retrobrited maybe 4 years ago and looks exactly the same right now. I have a Amiga 500 that was also done around the same time and has a little bit of new yellowing. Every Mac I've done is fine. Some plastics will continue to yellow, yes, but it's not the doom and gloom grenade Tanner lobbed (and then left. LOL).

  • @Lebon19
    @Lebon19 Před 7 měsíci +859

    I'm no Apple / Mac guy but Jonathan Horst is always able to bring me in. The calm atomosphere is charming and, somehow, addictive.

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 Před 7 měsíci +13

      Just like Apple….

    • @swuspicious
      @swuspicious Před 7 měsíci +8

      me neither, i just love the vibe

    • @missingno2401
      @missingno2401 Před 7 měsíci +13

      i dont like apple but i like the vibe of this show

    • @SoyElDiabloRojo
      @SoyElDiabloRojo Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@ryanhamstra49 Garak: "It's insidious!" Quark: "Just like the Federat--I mean, just like Apple." (MA is at least in part responsible for me owning ~6 Apple products now)

    • @tydewalt5425
      @tydewalt5425 Před 7 měsíci

      DS9, so good.@@SoyElDiabloRojo

  • @crestofhonor2349
    @crestofhonor2349 Před 7 měsíci +620

    A collab I’d never thought I’d see. 8 bit guy and LTT is very unexpected but a very welcome collab

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 Před 7 měsíci +8

      What's next? Tailosive Tech and DankPods?

    • @JeskidoYT
      @JeskidoYT Před 7 měsíci +6

      Mac Address actually. LTT is not related to this channel

    • @proxy1035
      @proxy1035 Před 7 měsíci +39

      @@JeskidoYT huh? this channel was created and is run by LMG, similar to shortCircuit and techLinked.

    • @Yelawolf269
      @Yelawolf269 Před 7 měsíci +13

      ​@JeskidoYT it's all under the LMG company tho, so technically it is related to LTT

    • @mysteriousm1
      @mysteriousm1 Před 7 měsíci +8

      It’s not LTT, though it is under the LMG umbrella

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk Před 7 měsíci +23

    Remember, when it’s in the shuttle bag, it’s a Packintosh.
    I’ll show myself out.

  • @Lukjam1
    @Lukjam1 Před 7 měsíci +401

    No Way, I didn’t think that this collaboration could exist, but this is awesome!!!❤

    • @datoaster4991
      @datoaster4991 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Bro I was waiting for the 8 bit guy to show up in a LTT video for AGES

    • @CalanReichel
      @CalanReichel Před 7 měsíci +1

      This is quite good! wish he would of retrobrite'd it and gotten alex to fab a uv rig though haha

    • @Lupoalberto12It
      @Lupoalberto12It Před 7 měsíci +1

      You just steal these words from my mouth!
      No way this exists!

  • @PepsiMan42069
    @PepsiMan42069 Před 7 měsíci +296

    To say this is my dream collaboration is an understatement. I’ve watched the 8 bit guy since he was the iBook guy, and LMG content for even longer

    • @maxbleich1263
      @maxbleich1263 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Same! I used to be really into collecting the Snow White G3 iBook and the iBook Clamshell and I have the 8 Bit Guy to thank :D

    • @ItsBlocky123
      @ItsBlocky123 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Same I think I found him originally from his video on if the iBook g4's were obsolete

    • @joeyledsome9285
      @joeyledsome9285 Před 7 měsíci +1

      1000000% agreed

    • @eliezermendezdelgado1606
      @eliezermendezdelgado1606 Před 7 měsíci

      Same here! I've been following the 8 bit guy for 7 years now and it's super cool to see him collaborate with LMG.

    • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
      @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 7 měsíci +3

      Dream collab is 8-Bit Guy and Techmoan. It's technically already happened, but I want to see one where Techmoan attempts to break into 8-Bit Guy's house like that one meme video

  • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
    @EpicgamerwinXD6669 Před 7 měsíci +202

    This is actually not the first time The 8-Bit guy has been in a video from LMG. The first time was when Linus was trying to run two gtx 1080 shaped usb drives in raid. The only way he could do so was by using a MAC.

    • @ethanmenzel
      @ethanmenzel Před 7 měsíci +2

      Whats the link to the video

    • @EpicgamerwinXD6669
      @EpicgamerwinXD6669 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@ethanmenzel this site tends to delete comments with links in them in my experience.

    • @MartinPaoloni
      @MartinPaoloni Před 7 měsíci +27

      @@ethanmenzel video title: "The TINIEST Nvidia SLI Setup EVER?". Video id wHfV41SZnXM. At around the 5:00 mark, the 8-bit guy video appears.

    • @ethanmenzel
      @ethanmenzel Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@MartinPaoloni He just references the 8-bit guy. I thought he actually made an appearance

    • @casparhughey5651
      @casparhughey5651 Před 6 měsíci +1

      he didnt try using windows

  • @teo2157
    @teo2157 Před 7 měsíci +43

    Its crazy to me that the watch on his wrist has far more power than the computer he's putting back together.

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 7 měsíci +61

    8-Bit Guy on Mac Address???? I clicked instantly. He's awesome.

  • @ethanmenzel
    @ethanmenzel Před 7 měsíci +16

    Mac Address is what the entire LMG team needs to be on CZcams.

  • @cuentaeliminada7176
    @cuentaeliminada7176 Před 7 měsíci +100

    I actually think this is my favorite LMG channel, the slow-paced editing, relaxed host and great takes on tech-focused content make it for me. Perhaps this is a hot take, but I don't mind we don't get uploads very frequently, the ones we get are plenty good and feel... hard to put it into words, but from the very first one they all feel like they are from the same "family", as if the style was already in place from the get-go

    • @ethanmenzel
      @ethanmenzel Před 7 měsíci +6

      LTT needs to bring this style to the rest of their CZcams channels

    • @UnjustifiedRecs
      @UnjustifiedRecs Před 7 měsíci +13

      Yeah the editing on this channel is leagues above the main channel, the main channel is typical CZcams ADHD editing and I find it hard to watch

    • @racheeeed
      @racheeeed Před 7 měsíci +1

      Exactly, instead of Linus breaking vintage machines and giggling, which boils my blood every time @@ethanmenzel

    • @ethanmenzel
      @ethanmenzel Před 7 měsíci

      @@racheeeedsome who understandz. No comedy sketches necessary. Quality over quantity.

    • @itskdog
      @itskdog Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@UnjustifiedRecs LTT tends to be going for the widest tech-enthusuast audience, SC/MA/TL tend to be for more dedicated fans of the content, and TQ goes after search results.
      Often LTT starts with the high energy to draw people in, but mellows out after the first sponsor spot, especially on reviews and "let's take a look at this cool thing" videos (the former being fully scripted, the latter being less scripted than the average video)

  • @MarcWoolf-vu8qt
    @MarcWoolf-vu8qt Před 7 měsíci +24

    Something that wasn't mentioned is that you need to be careful with CRT based monitors when working around them. They retain charge after the computer is switched off. My first job was as a Mac engineer and we used to have to discharge the screens before working on them. Also, the tiny hole to the right hand side of the floppy disk drive is a disk release. If you find a long pin and push it into the hole far enough it will release the disk. But there defo should be a warning about the CRT thing. Also they are vacuum tubes, if you break of the nipple on the end they can implode. rare to happen. But still worth being careful.

    • @popltree2
      @popltree2 Před 6 měsíci

      I was an Apple Genius when some of the last CRTs were still serviceable (Education models) and we had to go through BOBSMEDS training.

    • @KittyKatKya
      @KittyKatKya Před 6 měsíci

      Breaking them at the nipple on the end of the neck is the one of the most reliable ways to NOT have them implode.

  • @meatpockets
    @meatpockets Před 7 měsíci +9

    I am acutally most impressed that the carrying bag is in such good shape!

    • @RedTroPc
      @RedTroPc Před měsícem +1

      I have 4 of those. Unlike other bags, these hold up pretty well. The only one that's in bad shape is the oldest one I got with my 128k, the ring around the top is starting to fall apart

  • @liyah7867
    @liyah7867 Před 7 měsíci +1

    my grandma worked at apple in the 80s and i remember in like 2014 going to her storage garage and she has like 100 of them stacked floor to ceiling in there, god i wish i knew what she did with them, and that she was still alive lol. miss u grandma

  • @SamGarfield1
    @SamGarfield1 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I can't wait for the retro bright space bar followup in 2 years.

  • @morstyrannis1951
    @morstyrannis1951 Před 7 měsíci +9

    That's not the original MacIntosh! The original only had 128K of memory. At 0:25 you can see it's got 512K of memory making it a "Fat Mac".
    I think I still have the tools to open the case - a super long allen key and a spring loaded seam spreader. Let me know if you want to add them to your collection. (I live a few blocks from your studio)

    • @grey5626
      @grey5626 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I noticed the same error. I don't watch LMG content for accuracy though, they fail at that, especially when going with systems that are probably older than most of their staff. Linus Sebastian wasn't born until 1986. Alas, they seem to be ageists, so they're not exactly bringing on elders in their field to fact check them, at all.

    • @mattcintosh2
      @mattcintosh2 Před 6 měsíci

      I have a nice collection of Compact Macs myself, some I've even owned since the 90s. I do have a Mac 512k, a color classic with a LC520 board, and an original 128k manufactured in August 1984 if I remember right. Unfortunately, it has a sad Mac which seems to be from a bad RAM chip. Due to the soldered in chips, its a bit hard to troubleshoot. I might be able to try piggybacking chips until it shows a disk icon, and then replace that chip, but not 100% sure if that would actually work.

    • @artiem5262
      @artiem5262 Před 6 měsíci

      It's not allen, it's TORX. Those long-handled torx drivers were very hard to get (deliberately) and highly prized. The case spreaders were needed the first few times you opened a (production) case. Pre-production units didn't have as good an internal case coating and weren't assembled using a press! I was one of the folks that visited pre-announcement Macintosh developers to upgrade EPROMs, and carried one of these torx drivers with me.

    • @artiem5262
      @artiem5262 Před 6 měsíci

      @@mattcintosh2 A number of companies made 512k boards by "acquiring" and upgrading 128k boards. Easiest way was to cut out the old chips and use a vacuum assist solder sucker to remove the pins.

    • @mattcintosh2
      @mattcintosh2 Před 6 měsíci

      @@artiem5262 my first Mac torx driver was custom made in metal shop in 1998ish. We took a cheap flat head screwdriver, cut the tip off and brazed one of those 1 inch bits to the end. I still have it, but now also have 2 or 3 official Mac drivers with the flat side on the other.

  • @davidschaub7965
    @davidschaub7965 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Maybe add a warning about discharging the CRT to avoid shocks?
    Also the initial basic steps: check and replace the battery, check if the capacitors have leaked?

  • @haziqomar7731
    @haziqomar7731 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I watched both channels and I am so happy to watch them collaborate on this, my heart is filled with joy!

  • @egbront1506
    @egbront1506 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Watching you resting the front of the Mac directly onto a hard worktop was the first wince. The screen protrudes proud of the frame and you can see the Mac rocking a little as all the weight is placed on the cathode ray tube. You should have placed a thick towel or soft pad underneath the screen to spread the weight around and reduce pressure on the tube.

  • @Mac84
    @Mac84 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Happy to see the Mac up and running again! 👍
    I've fixed dozens of similarly aged Apples, it's nice to see this one was able to be saved for future generations to come. Especially when the case is in pretty good shape.
    Just a small note, the image on the CRT is stretched quite a bit outside of the factory settings. There should be a solid thick border around the image on the display. That's why the image in the corners is cut off behind the plastic. Books like "Dead Mac Scrolls" give you measurements to help resolve this.

  • @masterdoge17
    @masterdoge17 Před 7 měsíci +52

    wow jonathan really pulling through with the quality content/collabs

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před dnem

    I love it whenever an old machine is saved. To me its no different than a classic car or piece of artwork. You're preserving history!!

  • @sirkus34
    @sirkus34 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I loved this style of video. The editing and directing style seemed like I was watching an NPR show on "How you over came your fear of fixing a childhood memory". And it's great seeing David being able to help, too!

  • @FredolphinIV
    @FredolphinIV Před 7 měsíci +1

    I loved the vibe and pacing of this video! Always excited when MA posts. Its great that you take your time to make this kind of videos.

  • @johndoe5743
    @johndoe5743 Před 5 měsíci

    One of the channels I frequently visit.. What a marvelous trip down the memory lane.. Thanks 8bitguy!!!

  • @jasonescudero3185
    @jasonescudero3185 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love the editing... I can't imagine how difficult this was especially since it's not your typical collab wherein the youtuber visits the LMG studios, and instead has to give all the instructions via video call...

  • @thecrow3461
    @thecrow3461 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love the 8bit guy and this episode of MA was very fun to watch! This channel needs more retro tech every now and then

  • @QUANTUMJOKER
    @QUANTUMJOKER Před 7 měsíci

    As a hobbyist, I've serviced and upgraded plenty of vintage Macs over the years. There have been some casualties, of course, but I now have several beloved vintage Macs that run as well or better than when they were new.
    I upgraded my 2013 trashcan Mac Pro with 64 GB of RAM and a 2 TB NVMe drive. I upgraded basically every major part of my 2010 cheesegrater Mac Pro: the CPU (a 3.46 GHz six-core), GPU (an RX 580), RAM (48 GB) and storage (1 TB NVMe in a glowing PCIe adapter), and I installed a Blu-Ray drive, a USB-C card and a FireWire 400 card. My mid-2012 MacBook Pros both have SSDs and 16 GB of RAM. My Pismo PowerBook G3 from 2000 has a 120 GB mSATA SSD, 1 GB of RAM, a USB 2.0 card and a slot-loading optical drive. I fully restored my early 2008 MacBook Pro with parts from other first-gen MacBook Pros.

  • @RirtyDascal
    @RirtyDascal Před 7 měsíci +1

    "Shufflepuck Café" was my favorite game to play on these older machines. Biff Raunch was a bastard but his laugh and growl made me lol nearly everytime.
    Man I loved that game.

    • @charlessale409
      @charlessale409 Před 7 měsíci

      Those dithered graphics are still so cool. Great characters.

  • @ClaytonMathisVO
    @ClaytonMathisVO Před 7 měsíci

    So cool to see this collab, love the 8-bit Guy's content!

  • @hellfishii
    @hellfishii Před 7 měsíci +6

    Its crazy how fast we move as a society that this feels like ancient alien tecnology that we have to translate from, and this actually was top notch tech to my parents. CRAZY

  • @MazeMouse
    @MazeMouse Před 7 měsíci +3

    I love retrobriting but Tanner is right. Once you start you're going to be taking it apart every couple of years to redo because it will also speed up the yellowing process

  • @gogobrasil7185
    @gogobrasil7185 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'd love to get one of those one day. Incredible machines. Also love the collab with the 8-bit guy!

  • @urmomsahoe1
    @urmomsahoe1 Před 7 měsíci

    I LOVE this style of video. Trying some DIY project for the first time is nice to watch. It gives me the confidence to try DIY projects on my own.

  • @MacinMindSoftware
    @MacinMindSoftware Před 7 měsíci

    Restored a Macintosh XL my dad bought back in 1986, 5 MHz 68000, 1 MB of memory, 10 MB HD. Had to use a stepper gauge on the widget HD to get it to recognize the disk was spinning and allow the head/heads to move over the platter. Also the keyboard is capacitance with foam for springs which fully disintegrated so I had to makeup new foam circles with heavy mylar glued to them. Hey, it works and I showed it to my dad who was amazed it was working again. Fun story is that I inherited this from him in 1990 and used it beside the C-64. It broke. My dad bought my brother and I a Macintosh LC. Weeks later I figured out how to fix the Macintosh XL so we had 3 computers to play with. I wrote my HS papers on the C-64 in Easy Script, college papers on the XL in Word 3.0 which I brought to my dad's Mac II to have him print on his laser printer. Also, about 18 years ago, I used a USB connected PC floppy drive and special software to image all of my C-64 disks on which I had written many programs and a few games so I can run those in an emulator today.

  • @alexmiranda6107
    @alexmiranda6107 Před 7 měsíci +2

    i love the 8 bit guy, im quite excited for this collab

  • @Sigurther
    @Sigurther Před 7 měsíci +3

    Honestly, looking at the final result, the keyboard didn't need retrobrighting at all, especially if its at risk of making it worse over time - take it from someone who is OCD about color and cleaning electronics. Awesome collab, two of my favorite channels together for the best time!

  • @shugpro
    @shugpro Před 7 měsíci +1

    I also have a Mac 512k, complete with case, disks, etc...I should dig it out of storage and clean it up sometime soon.

  • @bnjrivera
    @bnjrivera Před 7 měsíci +3

    Love to see some retro Mac adventures on this channel, and I hope you all get to do more stuff like this down the line. Linus shouldn’t get to have all the fun with an Apple Newton. As always, your style of videos is top notch

  • @doublea47
    @doublea47 Před 7 měsíci +1

    yooo, i've been waiting for a long time for this collab

  • @gogogomes7025
    @gogogomes7025 Před 7 měsíci +3

    OH WOW! Ain't that the collab I never knew I needed.

  • @artiem5262
    @artiem5262 Před 6 měsíci

    I was in the engineering part of Bandley 3 (The Apple building that held the Macintosh team) on the day a contingent from Sony Japan delivered the first of these disk drives. It was presented, with formality, to Steve Jobs and George Crow (Hardware lead), who received it with much gratitude. It was presented in a beautiful wooden box. George and Sony really bailed out the Macintosh with this drive!

  • @marksterling8286
    @marksterling8286 Před 7 měsíci

    Truly, awesome seeing David on MAC address. A great video and nice to see the retro bright tub being passed along. Thanks for sharing

  • @stu729
    @stu729 Před 7 měsíci

    Great collaboration!
    I have my family's old Commodore 64, originally bought around 1983, with a (not original) disk drive and CRT Commodore 1701 monitor. I still drag it out every now and then and play with it. I would love to give them all a good retrobrite-ing, but there is that fear of pulling everything apart and hoping I don't have any spare pieces left over once reassembly is done.

  • @phish_phood
    @phish_phood Před 7 měsíci +1

    i appreciate the focus on apple history rather than the more product review style videos

  • @super10nano1
    @super10nano1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So happy to see this collaboration and I have my childhood Tandy computer, definitely needs to be restored though

  • @musicfreak21
    @musicfreak21 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Jonathan is so hardcore Mac think different he didn’t even use LTT Screwdrivers

  • @randomparable
    @randomparable Před 7 měsíci

    This is an unexpected collab, but my god, I didn't know I needed this!

  • @lorensims4846
    @lorensims4846 Před 6 měsíci

    What fun!
    I have an old PowerBook 520 "Blackbird" that my wife found on eBay. It needed some repair so she found another one for parts.
    It's the model we always wanted because the design was so groundbreaking at the time and it could hold TWO batteries for extended time away from a plug. It was also the very first laptop with a trackpad!
    I got it to play with the Macintosh Programmer's Workshop to learn C++.
    This is not the color version of this laptop, that would be the 540. I just needed it for text so color wasn't so important. It kinda harkens back to the original Macintosh, except this one has 16 shades of gray instead of the simple binary black and white of the original screen.
    I haven't done anything with it for more than 12 years, but you've encouraged me to get it out and see what I need to get it running again.
    Thanks! I really enjoyed this one!

  • @HoppiHopp
    @HoppiHopp Před 7 měsíci +1

    9:42 I didn’t know, these are called dust bunnies. In German we call them Wollmäuse - wool mice. 😂

  • @OfBronzeandBlaze
    @OfBronzeandBlaze Před 7 měsíci +2

    Never expected this collab!

  • @PotatoFi
    @PotatoFi Před 7 měsíci

    This was an unexpected surprise! Nice episode. Typically on these old computers, they just need a good cleaning inside and out to work well. Good job keeping the retrobrite to a minimum. I’ve done 20+ full machines with retrobrite now, and I always hit them with 303 Aerospace Protectant. No re-yellowing on the machines I’ve treated yet! I do disagree with David about these being “nightmares”, I find compact B&W Macs to be very fun to work on, once you get to know their quirks. I simultaneously love David’s channel and work, I’m very glad that you reached out to him!

  • @superwholocked7418
    @superwholocked7418 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Would love seeing these kind of collabs whenever they look at retro/obscure systems on the main LTT channel. People like LGR, MVG and so on would serve as a nice source of insight for the broader LMG public.

  • @jerrybomcool
    @jerrybomcool Před 7 měsíci +2

    I have a macintosh plus that used to work. But now doesn’t, I’m in need of repairing it and I love these age of apple and love for the 8 bit guy for many years!

  • @way2tired2
    @way2tired2 Před 7 měsíci +3

    How dare Jonathan use an ifixit screwdriver.

  • @flebnard
    @flebnard Před 7 měsíci +2

    Should have called Mac84. The louis rossmann of classic macs.

  • @bbol745
    @bbol745 Před 7 měsíci

    "If your big on decorating your home with antique computers" when the iPod touch was discontinued I went out and bought one to keep sealed in the box. It is currently on my desk as a decoration. Lol! I also have a Macintosh classic that used to work but now it seems to turn on but there is no picture in the CRT.

  • @Bedwyr7
    @Bedwyr7 Před 7 měsíci

    It's already done but I restored my NES/SNES collection. The NES cartridges were the most cantankerous thanks to that connector, but a strategy of progressive cleaning up to using a bit of brasso paste did the trick in nearly all cases. I'm happy that I didn't even need to replace any batteries or capacitors. Just the connector teeth or the cart shell were gross. The worst were brown with cigarette residue and a few didn't clean *that* well. But all were functional.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have an original Macintosh, built in February 1984, and I've repaired a dozen or so from that era through the mid 90's, I'd hardly call them a nightmare, but frequently require a complete re-cap and thorough cleaning. The Quantum SCSI drives on the later ones have a basically 100% failure rate. 5:05 You can use a paperclip inserted into the little pinhole to eject a disk manually.

  • @TheSmartOjus
    @TheSmartOjus Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have a White Nintendo DS Lite from my childhood that has a broken hinge, the bottom touch screen is filled with scratches, the L and R buttons dont work, and the stylus is missing in action
    I really want to do a shell swap, replace the screens, and fix the L and R buttons. :D

  • @MakeWeirdMusic
    @MakeWeirdMusic Před 7 měsíci +2

    You can get disks out with a paperclip. Stick it in the hole on the front of the drive, then push.

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes. But the issue is always finding a paper clip!

  • @Fabri91
    @Fabri91 Před 7 měsíci

    I actually have a relative's 1998 Tray-loading, Bondi-blue iMac G3.
    Sadly when powering it up again in 2015 *something* went and the only way I could get it functional was by replacing almost the entire thing by scavenging the logic board, display a d power supply from a slightly later 1999 model, before they switched to the slot-loading models.
    The drives are still the original ones, though.
    Sadly this means that it's not quite in original condition since it's a hardware revision later and e.g. the IR port is no longer functional since it was removed after the first year.

  • @scrivener68
    @scrivener68 Před 7 měsíci

    Holy nostalgia. Typing in programs from a magazine. Something I hadn't thought about in decades, since my Apple II Plus.

  • @eatbachelorchow
    @eatbachelorchow Před 7 měsíci +8

    Love the 8 bit guy!

  • @mattalki
    @mattalki Před 7 měsíci

    I still have my Tandy Color Computer 2 and my Tandy 1000TL from back when I was young. I bought the 1000 in 1989 when I was 15 and the CoCo was given to me by my parents a few years before that. Both are still really neat to play with. The 1000 is set up in my office as sort of a 'retro corner'.

  • @yuristocat
    @yuristocat Před 7 měsíci

    FEATURING THE 8 BIT GUY!?!?!?
    This is the coolest collab ever omg

  • @bartonlynch
    @bartonlynch Před 7 měsíci

    I still have my original Apple Iic that I coincidentally restored following Dave's video -on the same model- down to the retro-brightening and all. It's proudly displayed with my newer Macs AND IT STILL WORKS!

  • @slippydouglas
    @slippydouglas Před 7 měsíci

    Correction: This is *not* the original Macintosh. The original Macintosh (January 1984) came with a painful 128KB of RAM; this is the quickly-followed 2nd version the Macintosh 512K (September 1984) that came with, yup, and more usable 512KB of RAM (or it might be 1986’s 512Ke- I saw a “512K” badge on the back but I’m no expert, I just lived through this era).
    So very very close to the original, but not exactly. With the LTT accuracy backlash recently, a small errata might be appreciated.

  • @TheMichaeljmanzella
    @TheMichaeljmanzella Před 6 měsíci

    I'm a PC guy. I just finished repairing my friends MacBook and I could hear your voice guiding me the whole way.

  • @wasakawakawaka2028
    @wasakawakawaka2028 Před 7 měsíci

    I had a lot of older equipment that I wish I hadn’t given away to people, whom I thought needed it, but they didn’t appreciate what i had given them. Lesson learned, so now I keep some unique items. Keeping Pc’s and macs don’t seem to matter anymore as they are ubiquitous, but back in the day, man, it was crazy to have one of these new devices.

  • @blueberry1c2
    @blueberry1c2 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I was hoping for something like this to happen! If only the LTT intro music was still around, it would sound great if it was made in the 8-bit guy's style for a crossover like this. We need AE Jensen on this!

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu Před 7 měsíci +1

    Random tip: You can "convert" HD floppies to DD floppies by simply taping up the extra hole opposite the write protect hole.
    They're perfectly compatible, the extra hole just signifies to the drive that it's HD.

  • @Techfanatic73
    @Techfanatic73 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video. The series keeps getting better

  • @TorMelkson
    @TorMelkson Před 7 měsíci

    Great colab. Would love to see more in the future.

  • @captainkeyboard1007
    @captainkeyboard1007 Před 6 měsíci

    The first time I worked on an Apple computer was in 1990 when I learned "Advanced" Desktop Publishing at a printing school. Fortunately, I did not have to take the Typewriting course, because I had the typewriting skill under my belt. I used Microsoft Word while the rest of my classmates were using Adobe Illustrator, even Adobe Pagemaker. I used that desktop publishing program myself. It complemented the Microsoft Word documents, too. I like your workshop and your operations alike. I relish watching people use the microcomputer. Today, I am using a Microsoft Windows-based Dell Windows-based keyboard. I enjoy typing on it, and I do not need the speed, because a slower keyboarding speed, featuring accuracy, get the job done. 💙

  • @MegaDizz23
    @MegaDizz23 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Woz is the only Apple employee left who could probably repair that.

  • @overkill789
    @overkill789 Před 7 měsíci

    While I've never heard of it referred to with that name, submerging plastic in hydrogen-peroxide is the only real way of fixing old degraded plastic. It's best used on plastic that is just discoloured and not brittle.
    Ultra-violet light damages the carbon-hydrogen bonds in plastic(poorly made plastic will degrade happily without any extra help), having the plastic in peroxide means that when hit with energy the damaged bonds will instead be restored thanks to all the extra hydrogen around.
    There is nothing in this process to say that degradation will speed up afterwards, the only thing that I would guess is perhaps an additive like a certain dye reacts poorly to peroxide and breaks down after exposure but the plastic itself shouldn't be any worse off than before.

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Před 7 měsíci

    I bought those gears (and a bunch of other stuff) from Retro ShopBox, and they were a great vendor to deal with. Their gears did work for me, although I am also in Australia, so it might not be worth it if there's a more local vendor that sells those gears.
    As for fixing vintage Macs, I did fix the drive in my Classic II, which basically also just needed cleaning and re-lubricating, besides the eject gear. I also recapped it, which was more of a preventative measure since it worked anyway. I also bought an SE/30 which "just works", but I did recap it and replaced the battery holder with a CR2032 holder, since there were signs of corrosion beginning from the dodgy old caps and battery. They probably could use a good scrubbing, but I was too impatient to get them back together after working on them, so perhaps that's a job for next time I get some time off work.

  • @gregcoons7308
    @gregcoons7308 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The most fun is in the fixing. Great challenge and really rewarding.

  • @yakk0dotorg
    @yakk0dotorg Před 7 měsíci

    This was just pleasant to watch. I have a Mac SE and an Apple //c that I plan to restore eventually, and Jonathan’s hesitation matches my own.

  • @mstreurman
    @mstreurman Před 7 měsíci

    Got an old Sinclair ZX81 that needs a lot of clean up. It is the one that I first played games on, but wasn't mine, I came into it's possession because my friends dad, who owned it, gifted it to me after Sir Clive Sinclair passed away two years ago. It's in pretty rough shape and needs some love, but still works flawlessly. Looking to mod 16k RAM into it and replacing the RF-signal adapter to a Composite out. My friends dad added a piezo speaker to it so that every time you push a button on the membrane keyboard it beeps, might get rid of that, not sure yet though.

  • @Bukki13
    @Bukki13 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The crossover we didn't know we needed

  • @goodBEan
    @goodBEan Před 7 měsíci +2

    I would take that to a "genius" bar at an apple store just for laughs.

  • @averagehummer1213
    @averagehummer1213 Před 7 měsíci

    This channel is so good. Best part of LMG. Jonathan is fantastic

  • @benbunch4159
    @benbunch4159 Před 7 měsíci

    My dad has one of these (bought new) and we boot it up every few years to play with it.
    He had it upgraded to 512K at some apartment in Berkeley back then and while they were in there someone broke into their car and...didn't steal the external floppy disk drive. Probably didn't know what it was.
    But kind of awesome that pre internet in period there were DIYers doing these teardowns and upgrades.

  • @lidorori
    @lidorori Před 7 měsíci +1

    Man, retro recipe would love to be a part of that kind of video.

  • @jabnnab4302
    @jabnnab4302 Před 7 měsíci

    This was awesome, thx for the flashback 😊

  • @videobenny3
    @videobenny3 Před 6 měsíci

    Congratulations on the detail shown. Subscribed.

  • @tyrannicpuppy
    @tyrannicpuppy Před 7 měsíci

    We had one of these back when I was a kid. I killed it by accidental boredom. My brother was playing on it and I was impatiently waiting my turn as we do as kids. While waiting, I found a bunch of BBQ utensils sitting nearby to a powerpoint with a cable not fully seated in it. And like a curious moron, I stuck the spatula across the live and neutral pins. This was way back before Australia sheathed their pins so it popped really loud and the surge forever killed the old Mac.

  • @p.l.3568
    @p.l.3568 Před 7 měsíci

    Man...many thank to show my first computer for college (CEGEP) ...very good memory

  • @PashPaw
    @PashPaw Před 6 měsíci

    My favorite relic is my mother's old Apple IIe. I now have it, programmed on it when I was a kid in the 90s, and it needs some new key stems because the escape key, well, escaped. It also needs some parts for the DuoDisk drive.
    It was the only computer we never got rid of after we got it back from my grandparents until we got our iMacs (a 2001 and 2006 one). All three are still kicking around, last I checked.

  • @pav9978
    @pav9978 Před 7 měsíci

    Tech tipp. When turning in screws back into plastics. Before you start, turn it COUNTER CLOCKWISE, you should feel a minor drop of the screw. If done correctly you are now back in the original groove and wont damage anything.

    • @jamescollins6085
      @jamescollins6085 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I am always amazed by how many people are unaware of this simple trick that could prevent so much destruction.

  • @dennisud
    @dennisud Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for giving us a reliving moment with the Mac's of our youth!

  • @mpschaefer
    @mpschaefer Před 7 měsíci

    I have an old Mac Plus System including an old Hard Drive from the era. I did one round of repairs on it about 20 years ago now as it had developed a short circuit across the picture signal lines. As I was unable to source a new connector, I went the route of removing the connector and direct soldering the lines to the PCB. This worked but about a year or so after the repair it developed another issue in the same area. I have been thinking of doing a second round of cleanup / repair on the unit but maybe not worrying about bringing it up to working status just making it really presentable.
    It's the edition with the Apple Employee Signatures on the EMC Plate so I'm thinking about removing it and displaying the machine with the plate next to it in a cabinet along with my Apple Newtons and C64.

  • @ItsMe-oi9dy
    @ItsMe-oi9dy Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'd happily watch Jonathon interview more people. Has he had a tech upgrade yet? I'd like to see what he does too.

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 Před 7 měsíci

    My a G4 MDD tower and a G4 cube. The tower eventually needed a new PSU. I got a special adapter cable that a guy makes to use a regular ATX PSU. Got a mounting bracket printed for an SFX PSU. Drilled near holes in the case. Mounted everything. Machine works great. Cube needed it’s discdrive fixed ( new loading belt ) otherwise works great

  • @phatputer
    @phatputer Před 7 měsíci

    Currently in the process of recapping an old P2 motherboard, replacing a broken USB header while I am at it, but have a collection of old x86 based systems, 486's -> modern which have all required some attention to keep going

  • @rud
    @rud Před 7 měsíci +1

    I found my old Commodore 64 after 30 years. Turned out it was sitting in a box and suitcase at my grandmothers house. Did an “unboxing” video on it. Haven’t had the courage to turn it on or try out the floppy drive. I also got my old printer and a sound sampler. Sadly no joysticks. Also I would need something go convert the video signal as I have no tv that will show the signal. Oh well one day. I also have some of my floppy discs with my programs on them. Note sure that can be read.

  • @richardnees
    @richardnees Před 7 měsíci

    Great combo. Love you both1