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5 Good/Bad Things on 2024 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2023
- Is the 2024 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek any good? Publisher Tim Esterdahl tests it out and gives you his 5 good and 5 bad things on the three-row SUV.
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My volkswagen tiguan turbo died at 60,000 miles. Paid $ 3,700.00 to replace it. I passed on the 2023 highlander because no more v6 just turbo 4. 3.5 v6 on pathfinder is why I bought it over the highlander.
I bought this exact car (right down to the color!) in February! I LOVE it! It's not a full size SUV, we all know that. But it is super comfortable, easy to drive, stable, and for me plenty of power. All four Captain's chairs are like being in your armchair at home. My wife loved the heated front seats Lol. This car absolutely laughs at bad weather, something I really really like about it. Snow performance is phenomenal and acts like a full 4WD in 4 High. This car is STABLE and sure of itself on the road. Other than snow I have not taken it off road, so I can't speak to its off road capability just yet. I would however feel totally comfortable steering this car down a muddy puddle-filled road, no problem at all. The Rubicon? Uh, No. Let's talk about that third row seat. We found a use for it - our 80 lb Australian Shepherd loves it back there and is very secure, especially harnessed in his little dog hammock back there. Great for kids. Two adults can ride back there if it's between ride and no ride just fine - I am 6 foot four and 260 pounds and was able to fit back there with the 2nd row seat closed - love the rear seat release for the 2nd row Captains chairs back there, btw. But yeah, leg room and head room are definitely a bit cramped in the third row, for sure. But it can be done. The best thing about the third row really is folding it down to make a van-like cargo space. The third row doesn't lay 100% flat when folded down, which is probably one of my biggest pet peeves about the design. But it works well enough for most cargo applications. 60 / 40 split is a very nice fold down option with the third row, something I don't think you touched on. The cargo space with the third row seat available is still deceptively spacious - a laptop, another briefcase, two 40 count flats of bottled water and five bags of groceries fit back there with no issue. The hidden compartment beneath the cargo space holds an electric tire pump, a first aid kit, a roadside emergency kit, a bug out bag (medium sized fully loaded backpack) a change of clothes, a sleeping bag, a folding shovel, and battery cables. Show me another mid size SUV that stores all of that out of sight without using any visible cargo space. My final verdict: A solid mid size SUV contender with loads of great features that come at the price of very minor concessions. It's a car that is going to get you home when Mother Nature is in a bad mood, and that's why I bought it. The $45K price tag is competitive and reasonable for the amount of car that you're getting. A solid choice in the mid size SUV market.
but always be watchful with those bad guys out there cause they might suddenly open your gas tank and put fire on it. i ask my friend whis has pathfinder if there is a gas door release button, he said none, Im deeply saddened. i better choose pilot because of this.
@@bogart5131 My understanding is that it’s a locking cap less system. The gas door does not lock, but the shutter to the gas tank does automatically lock if the key is not within ten feet of the vehicle.
I enjoyed your video. I have a 2023 Rock Creek in the same color as yours, but with a black roof. However, I disagree with some of your criticisms. First, you said the V6 engine is not powerful enough. I prefer the V6 over a turbo, because turbos are unreliable. You admitted that people think so, and the data supports it. For example, Ford's ecoboost engines have a bad reputation, and they have been using them for a long time. Also, the fuel economy of turbos is worse than natural aspirated engines. And don't forget how reliable the 3.5L engine has been for Nissan. Second, you said the rear seats are not spacious. The Pathfinder has the best and roomiest 3rd row seats. I have tried Toyota (Highlander, Sequoia), Ford Explorer, Hyundai/KIA Palisade, and they are all smaller. Plus, you missed that the rear seats recline. You didn't even try to recline them. Third, you said the Rock Creek lacks amenities like wireless charger, larger infotainment, gauges, etc. The Rock Creek is not Nissan's top model. If you want those features, you need the Platinum Pathfinder, not the Rock Creek. The Rock Creek is more about simplicity that works, rather than technology that can fail.
Btw, I didn’t buy this, just reviewed it. I disagree strongly on your turbo failing data comment. I’ve been doing this for 14 years and the data I’ve seen doesn’t support your statement.
@@Pickuptrucktalk the data I referred to is the vast amount of complaints from Ford Ecoboost owners that have premature failure and have to replace either on warranty or out of warranty the turbos. Search Google for Ecoboost failures and you will see... Everyone knows that turbos don't last the life of the engine and replacing them could be very expensive, I read on some places that on average 100k is a good life for turbos (that didn't failed) and service them is a costly 3-5k per turbo. This is just info I read on forums, videos and web pages ..
Also I used Ford since they are the one company that uses them on every model. And they sell hundreds of thousands of Ecoboost vehicles. So comparing Chevy, Toyota, Kia using one turbo on one engine size and nothing else, that doesn't inspire much confidence... That's my logic
I like nissans old school approach. Naturally aspirated engines. Old tech is reliable and dosent increase price.
It’s a fairly thoroughly vetted mill, but it’s still a modern DI engine with electronically controlled variable valve timing.
I just brought my 2024 Rock Creek home last week, so I can't speak to long term, but I absolutely love it. Major upgrade from my 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee. On paper, I had my heart set on the Telluride, however once I sat in it, I hated it. Not comfortable at all and the controls on the inside felt like a space ship. I then went back to the Pathfinder and thought I'd go with the SL model with the upgraded premium package to include sunroof and captain's chairs, however the Rock Creek just kept calling to me. I used to have a Xterra back in the day, and it won me over. Granted I was bummed I wasn't getting a sunroof and some minor things like a wireless charger and a charging port in the 3rd row, however I'm not missing those features now that I'm in it. Any of the cargo spaces in this class is less than I'm used to, however with the option of the 60/40 split in the 3rd row and hidden cargo space, it works. I knew I was buying a 3rd row for my kids, so not too concerned with space back there. I agree that the piano black trim is dumb, especially in this more 'rugged off road' model. Just attracts dust and finger prints. Obviously not a real off roader either, no skid plates and could definitely be a bit higher, but for snow and some dirt roads I drive on, I'm confident it will get the job done. I also want to note, I drive on 'auto' around town, but will use 'sport mode' when on the highway for better get up and go. Lastly, the price- cheaper than all the other SUVs I was looking at and I was able to get it for $5,000-$8,000 under MSRP.
You mind saying what you paid out the door? I’m not even looking for a vehicle but here I am watching tons of videos on this lol
I like Nissan being a naturally aspirated engine. Once you add turbos, you add problems down the road and $$$ repairs. The 100,000 mile tune up with turbos are very $$$. The rear seat is for the kids so you road trip witht he family. I do agree the vehicle needs to have an additional two to three inches of height for driving on dirt roads. Thanks for the video.
We have x5 vehicles at work, with less than 40k miles, and the wireless charger has failed in all of them. They don’t seem to last.
Comparing a naturally aspirated with a turbo engine, is like comparing gas to diesel. It’s a different animal. Of course you will have more power. Most people are used to naturally aspirated.
The other thing you touched on here, that really stuck with me, is the reliability of Nissan, which you stated was good. I can personally speak for the unreliability of Ford and Chevy specifically. I don’t have any personal experiences with ram or some of the other brands. I have heard that Toyota historically has been pretty reliable, but some of their newer vehicles may not be so reliable. The tundra specifically.
My point is, all of the dislikes about this vehicle are based off your personal opinion, which you did admit to. I think people are really going to start appreciating a vehicle that is reliable, over a vehicle that has a 75 inch infotainment screen, massaging seat, in a refrigerator in the center console.
I am a Nissan guy, and have been for many years. I have had NO issues with any of them. I have had x2 muranos, x1 pathfinder, and two titans. Currently have a Titan xd.
At Work, i have ditched all GM products because they are money pits, and have migrated to all Nissan vehicles .
N/A engine sounds great to me! Reliable!
I have had better luck with my current turbo than my last Nissan VQ. I live in Wyoming and drive a lot at altitude and the turbo is SO much better. I don't lose power as elevation increases. I will never go back to NA engines. They are dogs compared to current tech. The only bad turbos were like Saabs in the 80s and 90s.
The rock creek is a true solid competitor. 43k these days is a steal compared to say the pilot trailsport for example
I have to be honest, I like the simplicity of the dash & screen.
The only thing about nissan with reliability issues were the years they were putting cvts in these big suv. The engines and suspension and so on are very reliable and longer lasting. Now that they use the zf 9 speed i hope the transmission reliability will also go up.
I'm leasing this one now . The only reason I was sold to it because the leasing Promo was hard to pass up at that time . Another 4 were taken delivery when I got mines . I agree with everything you say . I will also add that if they market it as an off roader , They need to add 2 inches and bigger tires. But overall my experience has been great with it
Hey I am thinking about getting it. How is the stereo? Does it sounds decent? I know the Bose isn't available with the Rock Creek. I am a music person so I am pretty bummed I can't get the upgraded stereo with the RC.
@@danielrn133 trick question because I play my audio via Bluetooth. I have USB-c for faster charging but doesn’t support audio ( unless any update has been made I’m not aware ) . The best sound is alway cable .
So the sound is really good when I play XM radio and with Bluetooth is slight above average
We own all three Nissan Toyota and Honda. They all are top performers in reliability. As long as you maintained their maintenance they will last to 300,000 miles +, excellent review. Agree with the mirror and wireless charging comment.
I agree ! Nissan reliability is great I had 2 rogue and I beat them hard ! 280,000 on my first 163,000 and no problems. So far ! Yes I do maintenance on it and I’m an aircraft mechanic ! So I take care of it !
I liked your talk on torque , it is very important , especially if you buy a manual transmission .
Thank you for this video. I used to own a 2010 Pathfinder that I put about 50,000 miles on before I traded it in on a 1/2 ton truck. The Nissan was super reliable; l only thing that it needed, other than regular maintenance, was a new battery every couple of years. I like that the current version has returned to a more capable automatic transmission, the CVT won’t be missed. I would definitely consider one of these when we go looking for an SUV.
Great video. All these other videos talk about nothing important but you nailed it. I just bought 2024 platinum pathfinder and it was light years ahead of the atlas, pilot, highlander in comfort but it was less tech than the telluride which is what I liked! The telluride had screens everywhere and it was so distracting I just couldn’t do it. Simple luxury with most comfortable seats, that’s how I describe my pathfinder!
check if you have gas door release button. if none, then advise you to be careful the rest of your life while you have that pathfinder
What are you talking about?
@@jamess.9164 im talking about your gas tank door. How do you open? just push it as long as your car is on or open, right? you dont have any release button or latch to pull inorder for the gas tank cover to open?
I still drive my 2010 X-Terra. All 13 yrs only minor maintenance needed. Still runs GREAT & owned it in Minnesota so it’s held up for 13 winters.
I really like the look of the Pathfinder, but stuck between the Rockcreek & Platinum level.
…. But then 2 days ago I heard Nissan may be re-introducing the X-Terra again… So we will see.
Thanks for the great overview!!
bro go with platiunum
I like it much better than the last generation.
It's more than Im willing to pay but I really like this. V6 👍
I purchased a 2024 Rock Creek and had one major problem. That is that the passenger seat height is not adjustable at all. My wife is the main user, and she is 5 and 3, and even the driver's seat has to be set the highest, with extra cushioning. When she sits in the passenger seat she looks like a grade schooler.
Could Nissan provide taller seat rails?
Third row seating is for kids only.
There should be a class action lawsuit for the rear brakes wearing out at 15K miles in normal driving conditions. Stay away from the vehicle. Passenger seat is so low the passenger can't see anything. I hate the fact that it can't recognize a bike rack or trailer and slams on the brakes when backing. Have to disable the rear emergency braking every time you start the vehicle. Nissan really didn't think through it's engineering on this one. Did I mention I have had to pull over a couple of time to reboot the vehicle due to every idiot light coming on and erroring out!!! Took pictures and show my Nissan dealership maintenance and they replaced my battery thinking it would resolve the issues. NOPE! It still does it especially up in the mountain passes. Once again stay away for the POS.
Oil sludge issues, Leaking hood liner in platinum trim, erratic start/stop behavior, pads and rotors done after 11k miles. I could go on.
Just bought a 2024 Tiguan SEL R line 4 motion…. I hate hate hate driving it. After 4 VW GTI’s I expected something more from a VW product that has R in the name. 184 horse from a motor that’s used in a GTi R, GTI, Porsche Macan 184hp…. WTF. Going to buy a 24 Rock Creek tomorrow and the Tiguan will sit A LOT
every pathfinder review, they avoid mentioning gas door release button which it doesnt have, thats the major thing i dont like, pilot does have. all those safety features are none sense without that gas release button
I agree with the mirror, i would rather see who is behind me and not the headrest. And yes a cordless charger is a great idea for phones etc….
Nice vehicle Suv. More ground clearance would be good and it Sooo Needs a Sunroof 😎
Great point on the torque! Not a lot of people mention that when talking about the peak numbers. It's like my 4.0 4Runner versus my 2.5 turbo Volvo. The 4Runner makes a lot more power on paper, but it's over 4K RPM so I never see it during normal driving. Meanwhile, the Volvo makes peak torque at 2k RPM, which is right where the engine normally lives. It has a much better personality than the 4.0. Also, 233k on it on the original turbo with zero issues.
Turbocharged on small engines are terrible on gas if you drive aggressively.like most people do.Love the look of the rear end.Rides like a Toyota 4Runner .
Doesn't need wow. It's basic and it works. I've had mine for over a year and it's perfect for all my needs. If you want wow your going to pay another 10k+ for it in any other brand.
Between the 2024 Pathfinder Rock Creek and the 2024 Traverse Z71 (or Acadia AT4), which one would you pick for overall drive comfort? What about in terms of offroading capabilities?
lol my Nissan has not been reliable but I think they’re an excellent value and often overlooked for sure kinda like Dodge/jeep/Ram is in the US
hope they can make wider distance between the tire and mud guard buttom part. so you can put bigger tire and so can lift the car if you want it.
There are a lot of people online who say they’ve had nothing but problems from pathfinder
I have a 24 and do like it. However, they dropped the ball by not having navigation, heated steering wheel, wireless phone charger. So stupid. Those items cost pennies
I don’t use a third row and my current SUV has almost no technology, so I don’t care about that. There are some serious deals on Pathfinder’s. I’d consider the Platinum.
Would love to see your review of the Armada
you talk about Nissan reliability and they are good now. But, they cut their own throat with a lot of customers with the Jatco CVT. They lost a lot of repeat customers. On all those knobs and switches - not all of us are in love with touch screen controls. In fact, Europe is demanding all the buttons back.
I’m a Nissan Junkie and i do believe in the reliability of a Nissan…
To be fair on some of those criticisms, the pricepoint of this isn’t necessarily something you’d expect for those features right? Doesnt the more expensive QX60 have the camera rear view and wireless charging mat?
It did. I had a damn love affair with the QX60!
The back and side profile look good . The front is ok, not the best looking
That third row seat is for your dog!
I own a Nissan Pathfinder 2024 Platinum edition. Before the Nissan I had a Toyota Tundra 2023 Limited Edition. And I replaced Toyota because of many problems with it. Nissan is ok for now, as for wireless phone charging, I have it as an option in the Platinum edition, also the second part of the seats is heated, and many nicer details. Comfortable car, sound insulation compared to the Tundra, the Rav4 my wife drives is much better on the Nissan.
My platinum pathfinder has a wireless charger in the cubby hole you pointed out. Maybe you scrimped on the test vehicle options😎
Needs to be a body on frame suv again! Come on Nissan bring xterra back to while your at it.
The Nissan Terra is exactly as you want but only sold in Asia.
Does it come with trailer brake controller
No.
Do you think there is any chance they will bring back the Xterra?
Not right now. Nissan is all in on EVs and killing off anything else.
Ive never known anyone who used the third row for people. Maybe a couple of dead bodies, but not actual living people.
When it comes to the tech and dash layout…… not all of us want to drive a computer. All the brands that are going to ultra high tech are having all kinds of problems. Leave it alone. Not every vehicle needs to be the same. We need choices. You say it’s not competitive in the segment, I say great I have a choice in what I buy. Because then you have ones that say that all SUVs are the same and that there is no variety. If you want high tech then buy one that is.
Does this vehicle drive well on a sandy beach….? I’m looking for a reliable vehicle with a 3rd row that is 4x4….
Sorry never tried it.
I used to drive Nissan from 2010 to 2021. And I changed it to the Honda 2022 Pilot AWD sport. Honestly didn't like honda I don't know why. I am thinking of going back to Nissan Pathfinder 2024. But I am confused between SV or Rock Greek trim. Will anyone give me suggestion? please. What should i do?
Test drive them. The Rock Creek has Toyo Open Country AT3. Which will ride a bit more rough. The waterproof seats are different too, if you want leather, they aren't that
Depends on what you like. Personally, I like the sturdiness and comfort the Rock Creek gives me. I've drove trucks my whole life, so it didn't feel too bad for me. I definitely suggest sitting in both and driving them.
beautiful
nissans are famous for transmission issues
I'm glad they didn't put the CVT in the pathfinder....they are garbage
Most of these CZcamsrs have lost touch with reality when you test drive 50 to 100 Vehicles a year..
You want fewer reviews per year? It’s their job to review and test vehicles, isn’t it a good thing to test as many as possible to get an understanding of the marketplace?
@@ALMX5DPit's not necessarily a knock on Tim or anybody else even Savage Geese talked about it in some of his videos where you get so used to the shiny new expensive is better vehicle that you forget what a good vehicle for the normal person is.
@@06XTOR well sure, gotta stay grounded if you want to be a respected journalist or reviewer. I suppose the constant pizazz of new vehicles may start to change ones perspective, though I hope not by much as to lose the base demographic that they are creating content for.
@@ALMX5DPpertaining to this video my aunt has a newer Pathfinder it's pretty nice I think Nissan deserves a lot more credit. The cool thing to do right now for CZcamsrs is to say everything Nissan puts out is hot garbage for example everybody was going Goo goo gaga over the new tundra a couple years ago and it turned out to be kind of a crappy truck as of right now. Powertrain is solid but other than that there's been many issues
This coming from someone who has a Honda a Toyota and a Nissan sitting in the driveway.. test drove a Bronco the other day and I thought it was a $60,000 piece of junk. Horrible fit and finish. Everybody thought that thing was the best thing since sliced bread as well
What 9speed transmission is in this? The same as the Jeep Cherokee? If so, no thanks.
ZF9
Needs more wow so it’s a 60k midsize truck..
Really lack of ground clearance, cmon nissan.
Nothing on 3rd row! Hmmm
Can't fit, can't review. LOL
MMMMMMMMMMMM, LOOK AT THE NUMEROUS TOYOTA TUNDRA AND TACOMA TURBO ISSUES, COMPLAINTS NOT TO MENTION THEY ARE DUST COLLECTORS IN THE DEALER LOTS AND CURRENT OWNERS LOOKING TO TRADE OR SELL A 70-80 GRAND VEHICLE AT A HUGE LOSS!!!!
Stop making 4x4 without a low range t case. It’s just a Subaru without it
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 due you have no idea what you are talking about. Turbo engines have lag for the most part, especially single turbos. They are not as linear as a NA engine.
That 3rd row seating is an absolute pointless waste.
Helps when I take extra kids with me during picnics time