She was dropping so many hints you could trip on them and he still thought splitting himself was the only option, can't love someone till you love yourself!
@@Master-Works Well you can't love someone properly then. Love combined with self-loathing equals inevitable suffering and heartbreak. A toxic recipe built for disaster.
@@bobthebacon3163 Proffesional psychologists agrees with me. Are you saying professional psychology is wrong? What you feel for yourself doesn’t affect what you feel for others, unless you feel like you’re superiour to them.
@@morganmiller41 Respect what? One half was clearly more popular than the others and the unpopular one was not needed for much than keeping the popular half alive
@@Master-Works If the elk side had asked her out and for some reason she said yes, the human half would be the nowhere king and the elk would be the general. Both sides are exactly the same.
@@vedji1857 The General had a different voice, he had become much diffrent from the original Elktaur they bothersome came from. They had the same personality from the beginning, but there is not much proof they would treat each other diffrently if the all of a sudden swirched bodies. Anyway, becouse it didn’t happen to the Elk the Elk wasn’t a bad person. But no, both sides aren’t exactly the same duo to the diffrence in circumstances
I freaking love the running gag with Gary and how they just leave you wondering how he even ended up in the Moletaur prison (and how he’s still able to continue baking as a skeleton). 😂
He was so caught up in the idea of her, he never actually listened to her at all. He felt entitled to her love but at the same time felt unworthy of it because of his own self hatred. She loved centaurworld, she loved him, he didnt need to do anything except realize that. When people say you need to love yourself before you love others, its for things like this. If you cant love and accept yourself for who you are, you'll always doubt that others love you as you are too. Some humans were racist to him, but she wasnt. The parts of himself that he hated were things that she loved
I don’t think she was the full reason he split himself. Sure she was part of it, but he always showed how much he wanted to be human and how uncomfortable he felt in his own skin much before that. His desire for her was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
This is why you gotta love yourself before loving others, otherwise you end up like NK/Elktaur not listening to others trying to tell you “Hey we like you the way you are” or pay attention to their gestures of kindness to you. Bro fumbled so hard on both her and himself for splitting himself into two.
I swear, this poor girl could wave a sign, with bright lights on it, in neon colors, that reads out "I love you just the way you are" or "You're already perfect" or simply "Don't ever change yourself" and this guy still wouldn't get it.
the problem is that they didn't. He never actually listened to a single word she said, just his own versions. They were cute = I'm glad they're gone You have to respect the balance = you have to keep them separate He never listened to a word she said. if you look at how he acts even here, look at how he's just.. blankly never responding to any of her attempts at being sweet and supporting. *she* was sweet and supporting. he was looking for validation to hate himself.
@@mohxevhoddrest2519 Aren’t you overreading thing? And the last bit wasn’t abiut him, it was about magic. And she thaught they were cute. You are just putting stuff in stuff that isn’t there
I feel so bad for them. He just couldn’t see himself as anything but a “centaur” and she got dragged into his self-doubt that literally turned into a monster and a war.
It wasn’t just that, he wasn’t comfortable as his own species and couldn’t fit in on either side. He was an outcast. A centaur with the mind of a human. Centaur are silly, so he couldn’t fit in with them and the humans didn’t take him seriously or see him as an equal
It was never about how SHE felt. It was about how he thought she WOULD feel. It was about having so little self-confidence (for one reason or another) that there's NO way she could like him, in his mind. and that is SO relatable to a lot of people, myself included, to be so insecure in your own self that you doubt EVERYTHING about yourself. So to that I say, if you like a guy, but are waiting for him to give you the signal that he notices, chances are, he's not going to, because he's too afraid of being rejected.
more than that; Elktaur needed a therapist to work on himself because he was so deep down in his self-pity hole he didn't even realize that was a sun smiling down on him. The poor guy needed someone who could snap him out of it and work on being more self-aware and reflective before he would finally notice the Princess' advances on him.
@@Master-Works bro wdym, she saved the entire herd including horse and rider in the final episode of season 1, she hesitated to kill the war-hungry monster that you have been defending, she had no choice but to eliminate Elktaur, to end his suffering, her suffering and the suffering of literally everyone else.
Bro's self anxiety was overshadowing his sense of reason that he did not get the hints that SHE MOST OBVIOUSLY LOVED TO BE WITH HIM AS A CENTAUR. SHE STAYED IN CENTAUR WORLD FOR TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU REALLY THINK SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOUR SPECIES AFTER ALL THAT.
Thousands dead, 2 worlds separated because the elktaur was afraid the woman would never love him due to their species difference. I read it on villains wiki and saw it in videos and it's still hard to believe
@@MxMcGeeky I believe it's fully because he sees he can get nowhere as a centaur. If otherwise he would have started changing himself way before meeting her
@@MxMcGeeky it seemed like a mixture of body dysphoria and internalized racism. When his sides meet at the lake the Elk said they didn't try. He was using her as an excuse.
it was never about her, he did love her but he couldnt love himself. he hated who he was, so even if she wasnt there h would have still done that split himself. he just did it faster because he thought she coudnt love him like that aswell
I don't know if he was just oblivious, or so caught up in his own self hatred, but either way I don't think his problem was unrequited love. I think his problem is his self hatred. He's shown to have disliked Centaurworld, or at least being a centaur, even before he met her. If it wasn't her, I'm sure he would've found another reason to try to separate himself into two halves. Also, why do I now really want an AMV or animatic or something with the elktaur and the song "Part of Your World"
“Oh, I thought they were cute!” SHOULD SHE HAVE SAID LOUDER OR SOMETHING???? SHE THOUGHT THEY WERE CUTE “ You have to respect the balance between each side” DUDE!
@@Akanina_Gacha I'm not so sure. he says he rarely visits the human world and doesn't know much about it. Not to mention the other the rift workers still look cartoony. I think it's because he's so jaded and hates himself. 😊
He looks more realistic than the other centaurs because he feels he doesn't fit in that world. Spiritually he wants to be human and that's why he rejects his centaur side.
@@Master-Worksbut arent you the more despicable one for spreading hate? You're worse than a fictional story, you're a living human trying to control other people with words that doesn't even matter to literally anyone you've talked to. You're just projecting and trying to look smart. You're pathetic and a nuisance to the society. The show did something better, to create something that people will like and be entertained.
It seems to me that he never loved her, he just needed a reason to change himself and in this case he Found the reason in "GREAT LOVE". Like dude, do you even know her name? 🙄🙄🙄
And I know about that the fact that in human world everyone has names like "General" or "Rider" but damn this character's name is "Woman" and he never calls her by her name, not even "Woman" only "My love" so much so for BIG TRUE LOVE can't even remember the name of his love, in general, he justifies his actions with all this love, including the war with humans.A well-written character, but as a person he's disgusting
@@lucasscalcon7024 I imagine he was either trapped there after the Rift was closed for the first time, or, since we know the moletaurs can travel between the worlds without the use of the Rift, it's possible Gary fell into a Moletaur hole somewhere in the Human Realm, and that's how he ended up in their prison.
@@Akanina_Gacha I mean in some ways Severus was both the victim and the villain rolled into the one... Neglected and abused at home, relentlessly bullied at school, overlooked in favor of the more attractive students... Can't really blame a guy for going evil... Doesn't really excuse him. Just stating.
@@krismoon3901 I mean yeah, he was the victim. But when he become a teacher he became an abuser, and after all that abuse he still excuses himself as "I loved Lily". Yeah, bullying and abuse is a bitch, but he becamenway worse than his abusers. Even if NK didn't suffer as much and he made more damage (Perks of being a war criminal) the show never justifies it with.. hE wAS iN lOVe.. and maybe Severus doesn't do that either.. but the fandom loves to justify his actions. (Sorry if this is too long or nonsensical. As a victim of teachers abuse the Severus stans get on my nerves a lot, even if you clearly said that his past doesn't justify him I can only remember the fans, my apologies again)
@@bobthebacon3163 The hints didn’t change anything about how the Worlds worked. Society was still racist and bigoted, and the racists was rigth all along
She was dropping so many hints you could trip on them and he still thought splitting himself was the only option, can't love someone till you love yourself!
That’s not entirely true
@@Master-Works Well you can't love someone properly then. Love combined with self-loathing equals inevitable suffering and heartbreak. A toxic recipe built for disaster.
@@EmptyMan000 You can love someone and hate yourself, but the releationship might become tainted
@@Master-Works dude, explain how you can love someone, but you can't even like/love yourself. You're wrong.
@@bobthebacon3163 Proffesional psychologists agrees with me. Are you saying professional psychology is wrong? What you feel for yourself doesn’t affect what you feel for others, unless you feel like you’re superiour to them.
“You have to respect the balance between each side” She LITERALLY SPELLED IT OUT FOR HIM AND HE STILL DIDNT GET IT
I don't get it
@@lukejones2363 he didn't respect the balance of his sides
@@morganmiller41 Respect what? One half was clearly more popular than the others and the unpopular one was not needed for much than keeping the popular half alive
@@Master-Works If the elk side had asked her out and for some reason she said yes, the human half would be the nowhere king and the elk would be the general.
Both sides are exactly the same.
@@vedji1857 The General had a different voice, he had become much diffrent from the original Elktaur they bothersome came from. They had the same personality from the beginning, but there is not much proof they would treat each other diffrently if the all of a sudden swirched bodies. Anyway, becouse it didn’t happen to the Elk the Elk wasn’t a bad person. But no, both sides aren’t exactly the same duo to the diffrence in circumstances
0:40 she said your antlers were cute dude! SHE SAID THEY WERE CUTE!!! As in, she liked you. *knocks on his thick skull* Helloooo!
He had self-love issues long before she showed up but yeah, she wasn't exactly hiding her affection for him.
Why'd she have to wait until after he already cut his horns off tho
My brain immediately went to "Helloooo! Think, McFly!" at the last part of your comment
@@rosykindbunny1313 lol oh yeah that's right! I wasn't even thinking of that when I typed it lol
uh hi ?
I freaking love the running gag with Gary and how they just leave you wondering how he even ended up in the Moletaur prison (and how he’s still able to continue baking as a skeleton). 😂
He’s the best, how else?!
And how he somehow had a kid with Ched!
I NEVER CONNECTED THAT BAKER TO THE SKELETON that name connection flew over my head
Also, notice Gary is a Human skeleton, making him the only human in the series to have a name
Oh, I actually didn't realized that Human Gary and Skeleton Gary are the same person.
It was never about whether she loved him as a centaur. It was always about how he felt as a centaur.
Racists was right all along
Damn, this has made me rethink the entire plot.
Species dysproria
He was so caught up in the idea of her, he never actually listened to her at all. He felt entitled to her love but at the same time felt unworthy of it because of his own self hatred. She loved centaurworld, she loved him, he didnt need to do anything except realize that.
When people say you need to love yourself before you love others, its for things like this. If you cant love and accept yourself for who you are, you'll always doubt that others love you as you are too. Some humans were racist to him, but she wasnt. The parts of himself that he hated were things that she loved
I don’t think she was the full reason he split himself. Sure she was part of it, but he always showed how much he wanted to be human and how uncomfortable he felt in his own skin much before that. His desire for her was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Dude made a mass genocide 'cause he couldn't take a hint **sarcastic clap clap**
As far as "reasons for descent into evil" go, that has got to be in the top 10 for Most Embarrassing
This is why you gotta love yourself before loving others, otherwise you end up like NK/Elktaur not listening to others trying to tell you “Hey we like you the way you are” or pay attention to their gestures of kindness to you. Bro fumbled so hard on both her and himself for splitting himself into two.
I swear, this poor girl could wave a sign, with bright lights on it, in neon colors, that reads out "I love you just the way you are" or "You're already perfect" or simply "Don't ever change yourself" and this guy still wouldn't get it.
So fucking true
“You have to respect the balance from each side” So much would have changed if actually just LISTENED TO HERRR
She wasn’t talking about him
@@Master-Works she was talking about everything, including him
@@Alegriacaptions No, she talked about the worlds
@@Master-Works and guess what are in worlds? People, including himself.
@@Alegriacaptions She didn¨t respect him in the end. So what does she know about respect?
God they had such a sweet and supporting relationship why
the problem is that they didn't. He never actually listened to a single word she said, just his own versions.
They were cute = I'm glad they're gone
You have to respect the balance = you have to keep them separate
He never listened to a word she said. if you look at how he acts even here, look at how he's just.. blankly never responding to any of her attempts at being sweet and supporting. *she* was sweet and supporting. he was looking for validation to hate himself.
@@mohxevhoddrest2519 I agree 100%, Im mainly commenting on what their relationship *couldve been* and going "God why was he such an idiot" lol
It makes me think that he loved that she was human, rather than her as a person. If she hadn’t have human he wouldn’t haven given her a second look.
@@mohxevhoddrest2519 I had never even considered that, this was an eye opener for sure. Thank you!
@@mohxevhoddrest2519 Aren’t you overreading thing? And the last bit wasn’t abiut him, it was about magic. And she thaught they were cute. You are just putting stuff in stuff that isn’t there
Moral of the story, if you want to impress a lady, just be yourself.
More like, when a woman offers you a sincere compliment, JUST FUCKING ACCEPT IT!
She did Marry the General
And don’t start a war between two worlds... that's very important
missed the point. He WAS himself. His insecure self-harming world-destroying not-listening-to-the-one-he-loves self. What he really needed was therapy
I doubt therapy would have helped much. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped.
I feel so bad for them. He just couldn’t see himself as anything but a “centaur” and she got dragged into his self-doubt that literally turned into a monster and a war.
It wasn’t just that, he wasn’t comfortable as his own species and couldn’t fit in on either side. He was an outcast. A centaur with the mind of a human. Centaur are silly, so he couldn’t fit in with them and the humans didn’t take him seriously or see him as an equal
@@Master-WorksJust leave troll. Your presence is tiring.😑
@@lexa2310 Insulting me does not mean you are right
Imma say this: How is Master Works a troll, if he gives decent explanations?
OMG... I just realized. So, elk do shed their antlers seasonally, but this was probably the first time he broke them off. Hence the hat
He cut them off to blend in with the humans
He cut them off to WEAR the hat.
1:51 She said to “Stay right there, I’ll be right back” BRO she still wants to hang around with you! That means she likes being around you!
It was never about how SHE felt. It was about how he thought she WOULD feel. It was about having so little self-confidence (for one reason or another) that there's NO way she could like him, in his mind.
and that is SO relatable to a lot of people, myself included, to be so insecure in your own self that you doubt EVERYTHING about yourself.
So to that I say, if you like a guy, but are waiting for him to give you the signal that he notices, chances are, he's not going to, because he's too afraid of being rejected.
Well, technically it is about what he thaught she felt.
more than that; Elktaur needed a therapist to work on himself because he was so deep down in his self-pity hole he didn't even realize that was a sun smiling down on him. The poor guy needed someone who could snap him out of it and work on being more self-aware and reflective before he would finally notice the Princess' advances on him.
"I loved you, the way you were whole" remember guys, don't be so oblivious or you may start a war
She even thought his antlers were cute. Dude literally had nothing to worry about she was crushing on him as a centaur from the get go.
It’s sad that Elktaur was sweet and shy but now he’s a monstrous Wendigo blob.
Just one half of him
@@Master-Works Yes, and the other half is a selfish bastard that is ready to do anything to keep his "happy end".
@@Phantom17685 And why shouldn’t he? He seemed justified
@@Master-Works that "justification" got him killed by his ex-wife
@@danniefarrow8214 Which didn’t seem justified
I just realized her hair back in the day was very smooth... cartoonishly perfect?
and she can do magic
And she is stupid
And ugly
And selfish
And mean
@@Master-Works bro wdym, she saved the entire herd including horse and rider in the final episode of season 1, she hesitated to kill the war-hungry monster that you have been defending, she had no choice but to eliminate Elktaur, to end his suffering, her suffering and the suffering of literally everyone else.
Dude, she would had loved you if you remain as a Centaur and loved yourself!
Also I agree with her that the antlers were cute.
Thousands dead because a dude couldn’t pick up signals as bright as fireworks. FFS.
I think the other problem was because he didn't have a friend to say "Dude, she's totally into you!"
If only he realized she was a furry and into him
She just wanted that Elk D 😭
She wanted that Elock
Monsterfucker, not a furry. She doesn’t want to be anthro, she wants to FUCK an anthro.
guy with interspecies dysphoria so bad he killed a whole kingdom
Honestly if he didn’t turn into the tirent he is now they would have made a lovely couple
Bro's self anxiety was overshadowing his sense of reason that he did not get the hints that SHE MOST OBVIOUSLY LOVED TO BE WITH HIM AS A CENTAUR. SHE STAYED IN CENTAUR WORLD FOR TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU REALLY THINK SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOUR SPECIES AFTER ALL THAT.
Thousands dead, 2 worlds separated because the elktaur was afraid the woman would never love him due to their species difference. I read it on villains wiki and saw it in videos and it's still hard to believe
They were literally so cute ;-;
Is it just me or did this whole nowhere king thing end up happening because of body dysphoria?
I thought that too
Yup, specifically species dysphoria
However I don’t know how much of it is due to him not liking his body personally or due to him feeling he can’t be loved or respected as an elktaur
@@MxMcGeeky I believe it's fully because he sees he can get nowhere as a centaur.
If otherwise he would have started changing himself way before meeting her
@@MxMcGeeky it seemed like a mixture of body dysphoria and internalized racism. When his sides meet at the lake the Elk said they didn't try. He was using her as an excuse.
it was never about her, he did love her but he couldnt love himself. he hated who he was, so even if she wasnt there h would have still done that split himself. he just did it faster because he thought she coudnt love him like that aswell
Do you think the drawing of the Elktaur on the cake was based on the princess’s personal fanart?
Headcannon acceted
I don't know if he was just oblivious, or so caught up in his own self hatred, but either way I don't think his problem was unrequited love.
I think his problem is his self hatred. He's shown to have disliked Centaurworld, or at least being a centaur, even before he met her. If it wasn't her, I'm sure he would've found another reason to try to separate himself into two halves.
Also, why do I now really want an AMV or animatic or something with the elktaur and the song "Part of Your World"
True
“Oh, I thought they were cute!” SHOULD SHE HAVE SAID LOUDER OR SOMETHING???? SHE THOUGHT THEY WERE CUTE “ You have to respect the balance between each side” DUDE!
Omg is so true
Yo if this man was more sane and didn't cut his damn antlers off he would have been great with her!
Why does he look more realistic than the other centaurs
Because he spent more time in the human world. Just like horse looks more cartoonish because she spents more time in Centaurworld
@@Akanina_Gacha I'm not so sure. he says he rarely visits the human world and doesn't know much about it. Not to mention the other the rift workers still look cartoony. I think it's because he's so jaded and hates himself. 😊
@@wind_scratch8387 Huh, that also makes sense
He looks more realistic than the other centaurs because he feels he doesn't fit in that world. Spiritually he wants to be human and that's why he rejects his centaur side.
Its to demonstrate visually that he feels out of place.
These scenes hurt. Guy literally dodged his perfect happy ending and became one-elk apocalypse out of grief. Sad, so sad.
I love this show
Why?
@@Master-Works Dude why are you hating on Centaur World? People are allowed to like this show. Controlling much?
@@bobthebacon3163 Becouse it’s despicable. It’s not right to like it. Yes.
@@Master-Works Alright you're prob a no lifer loser troll adios I'm gonna do something productive unlike you.
@@Master-Worksbut arent you the more despicable one for spreading hate? You're worse than a fictional story, you're a living human trying to control other people with words that doesn't even matter to literally anyone you've talked to. You're just projecting and trying to look smart. You're pathetic and a nuisance to the society. The show did something better, to create something that people will like and be entertained.
So many centaurs and people died just because this guy can’t take a hint to save his life.
She was so close to his face, he should have just went for it or at least took a hint
can i just say...the drawing of him on the cake is so damn cute XD
My dude. You missed every single hint there was.
THEY WERE SO CUTE
It seems to me that he never loved her, he just needed a reason to change himself and in this case he Found the reason in "GREAT LOVE". Like dude, do you even know her name? 🙄🙄🙄
And I know about that the fact that in human world everyone has names like "General" or "Rider" but damn this character's name is "Woman" and he never calls her by her name, not even "Woman" only "My love" so much so for BIG TRUE LOVE can't even remember the name of his love, in general, he justifies his actions with all this love, including the war with humans.A well-written character, but as a person he's disgusting
Wait...was Becky Apples rider Gary?!
OMG COULD BE!
Gary was becky's rider... how the hell did he end up on centaurworld is beyond me
@@lucasscalcon7024
I imagine he was either trapped there after the Rift was closed for the first time, or, since we know the moletaurs can travel between the worlds without the use of the Rift, it's possible Gary fell into a Moletaur hole somewhere in the Human Realm, and that's how he ended up in their prison.
They were so cute together ):
dude gary has an entire hidden story going on here, i wanna know why he got imprisoned by the moletaurs
AU where he understood the obvious hints would be so nice. But nah
Elktaur and the Woman deserved a happy ending 😭
Bro was prob blushing at the antler comment bc elks shed to get the right antlers to attract ladies💀🙏(or if there injured, either one)/j
Awkward centaur date
With him as a centaur THEY COULD HAVE WORKED
Anyone else getting Severus and Lily vibes or is it just me?
Severus and Lily were way more toxic. Elktaur knew he was doing something bad the entire time, Severus insisted that he was the victim
@@Akanina_Gacha I mean in some ways Severus was both the victim and the villain rolled into the one... Neglected and abused at home, relentlessly bullied at school, overlooked in favor of the more attractive students... Can't really blame a guy for going evil... Doesn't really excuse him. Just stating.
@@krismoon3901 I mean yeah, he was the victim. But when he become a teacher he became an abuser, and after all that abuse he still excuses himself as "I loved Lily". Yeah, bullying and abuse is a bitch, but he becamenway worse than his abusers.
Even if NK didn't suffer as much and he made more damage (Perks of being a war criminal) the show never justifies it with.. hE wAS iN lOVe.. and maybe Severus doesn't do that either.. but the fandom loves to justify his actions.
(Sorry if this is too long or nonsensical. As a victim of teachers abuse the Severus stans get on my nerves a lot, even if you clearly said that his past doesn't justify him I can only remember the fans, my apologies again)
@@krismoon3901 The thing is we have no indication the other centaurs were neglecting him. We just know HE had a low opinion of his own kind.
Did he mention radiation?
Yes
Radiation is pretty common. Its mostly about what type, duration and level of exposure. For example radiation can be used to treat certain things.
was that their names?
Her canonical names are "The mysterious woman" (or woman), and Elkatur
I call the Woman Stupid Witch
Elkerto???
Is the name I gave him, since all centaurs have names referring to the animal, almost
Its giving transgender
He is so pathetic!
No, he isn’t
@@Master-Works hello simp
I wonder why you didn't reply to my theory
@@Master-Works Yeah he kinda is. I mean Elktaur's self loathing, him literally not getting the HINTS that were more obvious then the sky being blue.
@@bobthebacon3163 The hints didn’t change anything about how the Worlds worked. Society was still racist and bigoted, and the racists was rigth all along
@@bobthebacon3163 yes