Lumix G9 Focus Stacking for Landscapes
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- With the newer Lumix 4K and 6K cameras like the Lumix G9 it's now possible to get focus stacking for landscapes, right in the camera.
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Focus stacking is often used in macro photography. And it’s really easy to get stacked images right in the camera…. If you’ve been following me for awhile you know I always try to get things right in the camera, so I don’t have to spend so much time editing my photos.
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In this video I’m using the new Lumix G9 camera but all of the newer 4K and 6K Lumix cameras have the post-focus and focus stacking feature built in.
Limitations: Internally processed focus stacking uses the Lumix 4K and 6K modes. Basically you’re shooting a video and extracting frames.
As a result you are limited to 4K or 6K sized photos. If you need larger photos you may want to do manual focus stacking - taking individual photos and merging to one file in Photoshop. But that’s a lot of extra work.
You can’t use raw files in 4K or 6K mode either. Again because these are video files. If you need to shoot raw files, then you’ll have to shoot your series of photos using different focus points, and then do your focus stacking manually using Photoshop or other photo editing software.
If you only need your photos for website, social media, and small print materials - such as real estate, or a catalogue of products - the Lumix in-camera focus stacking will be perfect and will save you a ton of time editing your photos.
Benefits of focus stacking: You can manipulate the depth of field more precisely than with camera optics alone. Example, if you want your background to suddenly drop out of focus, you can do that using a big f/stop and focus stacking.
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If you want to see my Lumix 4K Post Focus video, that I mention in this video, it's here: czcams.com/video/vvRbWlDHdM0/video.html
hey do you know if you can focus stack using picture taken not in 4k / post focus mode but manually
@@JJ-vp3bd, I have the same question somewhere here. I think that you should use focus bracketing for that (and a tripod!)
Simply amazing! The way you explained everything and I'm seriously contemplating on getting this camera, already using em5ii and em1 with pro level glass. Will all my glass work seamlessly with g9?
@@JJ-vp3bd Yes, you can take multiple photos and stack using software on a computer.
@@ImageMaven which software you recommend?
When I'm in a hurry (usually) but I need a quick refresher, I set the CZcams playback speed to 1.5 and find whichever of your tutorials I need. Your instruction is so clear and to-the-point that a quick look is all I need. I just reviewed High-Res Mode and Focus Stacking in about 4 minutes before going to my daughter's house to do a jewelry photo shoot. Thanks Marlene!!
I'll let you in on a little secret.... Sometimes I have to review my own videos too. LOL. Thanks for checking in. Hope your shoot goes well.
I have just brought a lumix-G9, your tutorial on focus stacking was very clear, well thought out and shown, thank you 😊
Great to hear about your G9. Thanks for watching my video. Have fun with it!
Marlene, I cant thank you enough for getting out in the snow and doing a stacking video that does make good sense. Panasonic should employ you, as you must bump up their sales. Here in Scotland we had a lot of snow also, but has now gone, and look forward to the Midges season. Many thanks for another great video.
Hi Nick, Well snow is pretty normal around here, and normally I do enjoy snow sports, but this year winter seems to be endless!! Hard to imagine that last year I was skateboarding outside all year round, even in January and February. We are still trying to dig out the skateparks in Calgary. Hopefully I can get out and shoot some 4K and 6K action photos with this G9 soon. Thanks for watching! Cheers.
I'm super grateful for your videos. I'm a newbie photographer and this cameras' features can be super confusing/overwhelming; and I want to maximize my understanding so I can take amazing pictures! Thanks a billion!!!
I'm super grateful for your comments. Yes, things can get overwhelming with a new camera. Always good to know what the camera can do. In the end you'll likely only use 20% of the features and you'll soon discover which ones you like best. But that's all good too! Sometimes I even have to watch my own videos to remember how to use certain features. So don't worry! Have fun.
Love your videos Marlene - so clear and comprehensive
Great to hear this. Thank you so much for watching my videos!
After watching this video I’m number of times I finally understand how post focus works on this camara ......your videos are great keep it up
Great to hear this. Thanks and I'll try to keep at it. Summer is hard though, as I work a lot of extra hours. The next rainy day!
Thanks Marlene for your thorough explanation of the G9's stacking mode.
Thanks for watching. I appreciate the feedback. Cheers!
Four years later and I still love these videos.
Awe thank you so much Jack! 😊
Thank you for another excellent video - I love this series you are producing!!!
Thanks very much Frederick. I have a few more videos to go. Just gathering test images. Stay tuned.
Thx for all the help.
I'm going to try this out today!
Thanks for the tutorial
Great to hear it Steve! Thanks for watching.
Super neat feature!
Yes, kind of fun!
Thank you so much for this tutorial❤🎉❤! I just got a used G9 and loving it.
Great to hear Otto. Thanks for stopping by! Enjoy your G9. I still enjoy mine very much!
Thank you!!! This content is great!
Thanks so much Wil. :)
YOu are so good. A lot clearer and to the point than some of these other guys who just talk a lot.
I try Barbara. :) Thank you for letting me know.
Excellent video, thank you!
Thanks for watching Steve! Cheers.
Thank you for that very helpful video. Can´t hardly wait to try it out. Greetings from Berlin-Germany.
It’s definitely fun to play with focus stacking. Just be aware of the limitations when working with closeups. Thanks so much for watching.
Hello Marlene, I bought a G9 last week and your videos are great. Thanks.
Awesome. Hope you like it as much as I do. Enjoy, and thanks for watching.
Right from the start... a mission statement. Thank you Helena. Subscribed.
Edit. I accidentally jumped out of the video and came back to your channel. Glad I did. You have really good content. Thanks.
Thank you so much Ken. Cheers!!
Great video, answered every question I had going in. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for letting me know! Cheers.
Thank you for the video
Thanks for watching Amar!
thank you, very informative.
Great to hear it! Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much!
Thank you for watching!
I've been experimenting with post focus quite a bit mainly on close up objects and it works a treat on stuff like this. Most of the outdoors snaps I've done have been handheld and they have come out really well, I suspect eh dual IS may be helping out here too.
I enjoyed your vid, you explained it well, better than I could have ;)
Agreed. And with smaller f/stops you wouldn't get the ghosting effects that I got using f/2.8. I did test the extremes here. Yes, the IBIS would totally help with this too. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Always great to hear from my regulars. Cheers!
ty so much!
Thank you.thats this one explained to me. I wasn't sure if the camera merged for me.
Glad it helped Howard! Cheers.
Great video 👌. Enjoy your method of explaining, very easy to learn. I'm a simple person!😶
Thanks this is great to hear. I try to keep things simple and easy to understand.
Thanks Marlene, great tutorial mate, with your G9 tutorials, I'm getting so much more out of my G9, every time I watch one and it's always a pleasure to watch them, there easy to understand and learn from, the G9 is a awesome camera, there's no need to say anything else, I own a G7 as well and the only down fall for me with the G9 as a photographer's camera, is there is no panoramic feature, especially when it works so well in G7, in that though, both cameras compliment each other so well, thank you 😊
Hi Stephen, Thank you so much for stopping by my channel. Glad to hear you're enjoying the Lumix G9 videos. You are not the first person to miss the panoramic feature in the G9. I think Panasonic reserves that feature for the "consumer" market as opposed to the "pro" market, which the G9 is aimed at. A shame though!
@@ImageMaven ok, I was wondering their reason for not, I'm glad I own a G7 with it, keep up the good work 👍
Thanks!
Wow! Thank you so much Jacques. Very generous of you.
Hi Marlene. Just wanted to say your videos are amazing. I have a G9 and haven't scratched the surface on what this camera can do. Your videos indicate users need to really dig into the camera. I've upgraded to this camera from a Nikon D5000. Great camera but telephoto lenses are heavy e.g. Tamron 70-300. Love the lens but again it's heavy. Lol again, great content.
Hi Carl, Thank you so much for the kind words. I hear you about the big gear. 10 years ago I sold all my FF Canon stuff for Lumix. No regrets. These days my Leica 100-400 is pushing the limits of the weight I want to carry. Hope you enjoy your G9. Cheers!
Thanks
Cheers David!
Thanks for the great explanation. I now understand the limits of auto merging a lot better too!
Question about post-focus vs. focus bracketing: can I reason that post-focus is 100% "focused" on in-camera magic, while focus bracketing is old-style and meant to be done in photoshop?
Very helpful video, thanks. I am thinking that this would be great especially for macro photography. So for example, you wanted to take a closeup of an insect and get every detail of it sharp and in focus, this might work. Will be looking for the video you mentioned at the end.
Yes, a perfect subject, especially if you have a macro lens where the depth of field can be very shallow in close ups even with small f/stops. Let me know if you try it.
Good
Thanks Marlene for your time in putting this video together. Can you shoot insects with focus stacking mode?
Great question! I think this would be a good test subject. Just make sure you have a small f/stop for maximum depth of field, such as f/16 or f/22. You want everything in focus, I presume. And hopefully they aren't moving around. Moving insects would be impossible to do this with. I've never tested something this small, but let me know how it goes. I would think that you'd need fairly big insects - like grasshopper or bigger. You will soon know if it's not working as you will get those halos forming like I got in the video example when I used a large f/stop. With close subjects you have less depth of field anyhow, so it may be tricky. And you may not need focus stacking. Just regular ole f/22 might do the trick as far as focus goes.
You sure love that green blouse :P
I have to stay on brand! :)
Just upgraded from a G7 to the G9. Gonna take a while for my tiny hands to adapt to size of this thing! :p Thanks for the videos!
I know. I felt the same way. Feels huge. I still carry a small Lumix GM5 when out and about and save the G9 for more “serious” shooting.
I have watch all your videos on the G9. I am looking to buy one and your vids are very informative. One thing I wanted to know and maybe you already have a video about it and that is the SD cards, what you can use in the G9 and how to format them to the camera
Looks like your question got cut off....
Imperfect as it was, I'm a bit puzzled as to why Panasonic dropped this feature from the G9ii.
I heard they dropped the 6K video, but post focus is still there? (Although it'll be in 4K only.) Most curious.
I'm planning on upgrading to the G9 from my GX-85. I use the 4K post focus feature quite a bit for macros with the GX-85. One problem I have with it, though: the maximum exposure time is 1/30th of a second, so some of my shots are under-exposed, even with a wide aperture. Since it's a 30 fps video file, we're kinda stuck with that... or has the G9 figured out a way around that? Also, both cameras have another way to do focus stacking: there's also a focus bracketing feature. On the GX-85, this feature is pretty much unusable. The focusing increments are super tiny; I was getting hundreds of frames and still not covering the complete zone I wanted sharp. Does it work better in the G9? OH.... wait a second, I peek at the side column and I see Marlene has done a video about the focus bracketing, too. I'll watch that next.
Wow this is super nice, i have the lumixg95 but i now planing to get the g9 now my question is do you have any video on the panasonic leica 49mm macro lance
Hi Lene, sorry I don’t have that lens. I’m going to have to look it up. Never heard of a 49mm!
Hi Marlene great videos. They are a real life saver for this G9 owning novice! One short question, does the G9 have a quick menu function like some of the other Panasonic cameras? Thanks Richard
Hi Richard. Yes it does. I use the Quick menu most of the time myself. Thank you so much for watching. Have fun with your G9!
Marlene, thank you so much for the speedy reply, could you tell me where I find it. Many thanks. Richard
Back of the camera. Right side. Below the control dial. Labelled: QMenu Fn2 button.
Marlene thank you very much, not sure how I missed that ...........😳 all the best, Richard
No problem. We all miss things with new cameras! Too many menus and options to deal with.
Have you tried focus stacking images for a multi row panorama
Dear Marlene,
Thank you for your excellent video.
Which software did you use to edit your video?
Thank you.
Hi Ilan, I work on a Mac and use Final Cut Pro for video editing. Thank you for watching!
Thank you Marlene.
A little tip that has nothing to do with the video: That type of camera wrist strap must be attached directly to the small cylinder. Remove the triangular key ring, and use the strap's ring :P
I would do that but I still use a long strap when I go hiking and snowshoeing. It’s just easier to attach with the triangle bits left on the camera body.
Hi Marlene,
Is the output of the final focus stacked image at 20 megapixels?
Many thanks
JB
Hi John, No. Here are the Limitations: Internally processed focus stacking uses the Lumix 4K and 6K modes. Basically you’re shooting a video and extracting frames.
As a result you are limited to 4K or 6K sized photos. If you need larger photos you may want to do manual focus stacking - taking individual photos and merging to one file in Photoshop. But that’s a lot of extra work.
Hey Marlene, I'm primarily a landscape Photographer. I'm thinking to move to the M43 system because of how small the lenses are. Do you think the Panasonic G9 would be good enough for professional grade landscape Photography.
P. S. I do a lot of post processing too, so do the images our of the G9 provide enough details for processing.
Yes I do! I moved from Canon 5DMk2 to Lumix M43 about 5 years ago and the weight difference is substantial -- especially if you're hiking to places for shots with all your gear. Also the G9 has the super huge 80MP (raw and jpg) files available in the High Resolution Mode. Those are perfect for landscape photographers who want to take things to the next level. But the regular 20MP Large Size files are great too, and what I use all the time. I've got a few other G9 videos in this playlist so hopefully you'll find them useful. czcams.com/play/PL46y8pfDCaW7crlPhtsP2fJNllIGOHQnP.html
Well explained, thanks Marlene! When it comes to auto merging why not shooting with a high F stop instead increasing the depth of field and therefore having more of the picture in focus naturally avoiding the halos? What would the difference be? :)
That is definitely an option, but even with small f/stop like f/22 you may get halos if using a long lens, because f/stop isn't the only thing that controls DOF.
Hi thanks really useful. Does this mean we can set a wide aperture and still get everything in focus? If that's right it's a game changer for noise.
Yes you can. Especially for landscapes. It has limits, as I've demonstrated in the video. So definitely test it out with a range of f/stops. It could indeed be a game changer.
Marlene, would you please explain when one should select 4K vs. 6K for focus stacking.
Mostly it's about the size. Not everyone needs those huge 18MB files. The same reason someone would choose a medium jpg over a large one. Plus, you can use the Extended Tele converter function with the 4K and not the 6K.
Thoroughly enjoy your lessons. I have a challenge for you -- Would you try foto of Milky Way and use whatever (stacking,time lapse, continuous delay of shutter or ???) to process the exposures in camera. TIA.
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Welcome! Enjoy your G9!
How does it deal with focus breathing?
at the 5.01minute mark of your video you choose to auto merge, I dont seem to be able to get those icons back on my screen to auto merge. All I can get is the rubbish bin. What am I doing wrong, what arent I pressing?
Hi Marlene, not wanting to use a macro lens but extension tubes, which would be best Meike mk-p-afA or B. I was told that A is metal but I am not sure which tube would be best for my g9, are you able to answer this please.
No idea. Sorry.
Marlene, I wonder how well this would work if, say, you wanted to photograph a tree in a field in then trying to get a harvest moon behind it, assuming the two subjects were in alignment and you're trying to get them both as sharp as possible without a double exposure in camera or with the aide of Photoshop? Very interesting video.
I'm not even sure you'd need Focus Stacking for that scenario. It would also work if you had deep depth of field using a wide angle lens (which inherently gives deeper depth of field as well), setting hyperfocal distance, and using small f/stop such as f/16. Try it! PLUS doing it this way would give a full sized file as opposed to a 4K or 6K size. Thanks for watching!
Hoi Marlene,
Do you happen to know where there is an option for focusing calibration of the lens.
Most of these price-range cameras have such a function.
Maybe it's hidden somewhere under a different name, i don't know.
Greatings
Hans van der Boor
Greetings to you too Hans. I've searched the G9 manual and the web and I didn't find anything on this topic. Just to confirm, are you referring to focus peaking when in manual focus mode?
i am your great fan, just bought the G9 "this menu cant be set'" would you explain for me why please. thank
Hi Dinh, Are you in 4K or 6K mode? Page 128 of the owner's manual has more details. Maybe you have something set up that is disabling this function. Please check the manual. Thanks for being a great fan and for watching my video.
Is there a way to insert copyright info in a G9?
Marlene, can you explain how to set functions in the Function Lever...I have tried and tried and I can not set it to a 2 second delay. Thanks
Watch my video about function buttons. I think the function lever is around 8 minutes but you should watch the first part if you need a review. czcams.com/video/Dly88YhiK_U/video.html
Hello Marlene! Does it generate a RAW file after focus stacking? You did not mention ..
No. Jpegs only for 4K and 6K modes because they come from a video file. And video is a series of jpgs strung together to make a video.
@jack_ art You can definitely get the file right out of the camera, but you need to check if Adobe Premier can actually open and edit that file. These files do open in LR and PS, but not sure about Premier as I don't use that app to edit my videos. Keep in mind though that if these sequences were taken at a high shutter speed, the video clip may be quite hard-to-watch as they jump around the frame at different focus points for about 1 second. So I'm not sure if the Focus Stacking sequences would be suitable for viewing as a clip. You may have better results with the 6K Burst modes sequences but again, they could be jumpy to watch, depending on your shutter speed, as most people are shooting fast moving subjects at 30 or 60 fps in the 6K mode. Hope that helps!
Thanks again Marlene. Do you think this in-camera focus stacking is as good as doing it manually by physically moving the camera on a rail? I am thinking more for macro rather than landscape.
Hi Alan, I really can't say as I don't do much macro work. As always it would need testing. Sorry I can't be more precise with my answer.
Hi again Alan, I was going through the comments and questions in this video and someone was using it for small things like insects. Here is his comment "I've been experimenting with post focus quite a bit mainly on close up objects and it works a treat on stuff like this." So hopefully that helps! Cheers!
@@ImageMaven Thank you Marlene. I to have been using it for Macro work. It does work very well considering it's limitations. I was just wondering how much better using a slide rail and doing it manually would be, if at all. Whatever, it is still a wonderful feature that I don't think many other cameras have.
Hi Marlene, I'm wondering if the G9 has a built in intervalometer that you can set for long exposures and if so, how do you set it? Just a question. Thank you very much.
Not that I'm aware of. But you may be able to do exposure longer than 60 seconds with the Lumix mobile app when used as a shutter release.
Great, thank you so much.
Hi Marlene , I’m an armature Underwater Photographer and a camera store sales man had mentioned that 6k and 4K shooting would be good for sea life ? I heard you mention in your video that it would be wise to use a tripod and have still subjects. So fish and corals would not be ideal to shoot, is there a way around this, with a faster shutter speed? Or could it work for macro if the subject is still ? Ps I’m very keen to buy the G9 soon and have enjoyed your videos😊
I said use a tripod for Focus Stacking in 4K & 6K. I did not say that for burst modes. Those are for action photography.
Marlene Hielema ok now I understand. It’s only needed for stacking in 4K and 6k. 4k and 6k is something very new to me.
Can you combine focus stacking with exposure bracketing
No, because Focus Stacking happens in 4K/6K mode. To do that you'd have to record manually and combine in Photoshop.
Marlene thank you for the concise and clear video. When I click into my postfocus 4k "video" on my gx8 the Fn1 button is not on the screen. I have the Fn2 button which adjusts the peaking but I can't figure out how to do the merging. Can you help?
Hmm I don’t have that specific camera so I suggest digging into the camera owners manual, look for the PDF full version, to get the exact method. Sorry I can’t be more help. Thanks for stopping by and for dropping your question.
Thank you for your time@@ImageMaven. I think it would've been added with a firmware update after release. Do you need to have your G9 on any particular setting for that fn2 button to show up?
Chris Evelyn The owners’ manuals are typically updated with the firmware updates. Look for the latest version. Worth it! If I find your answer I’ll get back to you.
I've been playing with my G9 and the playback of the Post Focus images. I can cycle through the DISP button to see all the variations of playback menu items. But that's the only changes I've made. The Fn1 button - also called Post Focus Play shows up for me. But even when it doesn't show up as an option, the Post Focus symbol itself shows up. When you touch that, then the Fn1 shows up and you can extract an image.
Thank you again for your time @@ImageMaven . I found this and it seems like they did not inlcude in-camera focus stacking for the Gx8. Kind of a bummer: www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/lumix-cameras-video-cameras/lumix-g-cameras-learn/article/let-s-try-post-focus/index.html
have you got a tutorial for its light composition feature ? it does not seem to advertise this feature but it is there.
Ah, yes. Kind of a strange one that! Basically you can create a composite image. It's explained on page 241 of the expanded owner's manual. PDF in the video description.
I’m just wondering whether this function will help do an easy star trails. I know you can do fireworks but just wondering why no one demonstrate how to use this function.
@@ryantang8146 Probably because it's easier to do this in photo editing.
So is the primary benefit that you can shoot with a wider aperture, if lighting requires it, and still get the DOF effect of a smaller aperture (e.g f11)?
Yes, you got it. More of the image is in focus. A lot of people use it for Macro photography.
@@ImageMaven Thanks. Please keep up the great work. I bought the G9, love it, and love your videos.
Good day. I want to buy a panasonic Lumix S 5 and is there the same feature?
I don’t have that camera. You can find the all specs this webpage. www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/camera-camcorder/lumix-s-series/lumix-s-full-frame-camera/dc-s5kga-k.specs.html
My GX85 offers post focus and offers Auto or Range method to focus. Like the G9 does. But my GX8 offer post focus but not Auto and Range focusing. Is there some way I can get my GX8 to do what my GX85 does?
Hi David, Not sure if they will make it available on the older cameras. If it does happen you may have to do a firmware update on the GX8. If I hear of anything like that happening, I'll let you know.
thinking about picking this camera up for landscapes. hows the dynamic range and can you print 60 inch prints with it in the high rez mode?
Yes, but you can also print 60 inch prints in the regular 20MP mode and you don't have to worry about motion in your shots.
@@ImageMaven what DPI would you print those at? I have a 20mp 5d mk2 now and I think that's a push.
Best to talk to your printer about that to see their specs. I've printed 8MP files over 50" inches wide at photo labs. You can res them up a bit if needed. If you start with a good image, in focus and properly exposed, there will be minimal quality loss when you size up. When I use photo lab printing, I use 175 to 200 ppi at the final printed size. Do some crops with 8x10 prints to test. You need to keep in mind viewing distance as well. I've got more info in this video: czcams.com/video/l218wUF3-eE/video.html
Is it posible to get good results handheld? Not perfect but usable?
I never carry tripods
You'll have to test that out for yourself methinks.
In the absence of a tri-pod, would you suggest - Auto Merging or Range Merging - for handheld shots ?
Hi Ray, I suggest whatever works best for you. (Are you surprised? :) ) Do some tests. Results may also depend on the subject matter.
@@ImageMaven Have you compared the quality difference between doing the stacking in camera vs doing it in post software of some kind ?
@@rayjenkins2754 No. As I'm not a landscape photographer per se, I don't do a lot of technical landscape editing. What method do you prefer?
Thanks Marlene. If shooting in RAW does this technique produce a RAW file or a JPG?
Jpg. This produces a 6k or 4k video that you combine in-camera to produce a jpg. So it doesn’t even work with raw captures.
Thank you. Back to the drawing board for me then :-(
@@DJColinCook Try it anyway. You may be surprised by how good the jpgs coming out of this camera are. I shoot jpgs 99% of the time with this camera. Otherwise it's manual combining of your raw files in photoshop.
this ends up in RAW or jpg ?
You end up with a jpg that is extracted from the 4K MP4 file
When the g9 stacks the photos does this increase the resolution
No, the resulting stack is a jpg. Thanks for your question, Gary.
Hi, are the result photos in raw?
No. The result is a JPG. These come from a 6K or 4K MP4 video file. You can't create a raw file from other files. You need to shoot a raw file in camera.
Hi Marlene,
I mean that the focal point of the lens sometimes does not focus on the right point.
You focus on your nose and your ear is sharp but not your nose.
Then we are talking about back focus.
Then in the camera you can normally perform a fine tunning on the lens of +3 or -3 in the menu.
But apparently you can not find this function either.
If you can not find this function I assume that it is not in it, since you have already gone through the menu of this camera.
For this, my thanks, I still learn a lot from your video's
But it is a shame about the missed funtion in the camera, I will have to do without it.
Thanks for the quick response.
Sincerely
Hans van der Boor
The Netherlands
There is a huge section on focusing and all related sub-topics in the G9 pdf expanded manual, starting around page 89 of the English version. Maybe that will help explain it better than I can. But I think you mean AF Sensitivity. You can also set face/eye detection and many other focus customizations. Here's the link to the expanded G9 pdf manual if you don't have it already: ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/camera/om/dc-g9_en_adv_om.pdf Hope this helps! Marlene
Hello young lady, it's me again.
Can you help me I have a question about the G9 update.
I see there is a 2.7 update and I haven't had the chance to do any updates from the time I bought my g9. If I update to 2.7 will all others be installed after factory installed operating software.
Thanks for any help.
Richard Williams
Yes, all the previous updates are included when you update your firmware.
@@ImageMaven ... thank you so much. I enjoy all your videos. Thanks.
Not sure if you said it or not, is it all jpeg?
Yes, all the 4K and 6K modes shoot video files which are a series of jpgs. You can do focus stacking manually using raw files and Photoshop, but this "in camera" method is quick and easy and you don't need any photo editing software.
I will believe in moderm technology if you can create DNG instead of JPG when focus stacking in camera.
Just tried this feature with my G85 for macro work, hoping it would substitute having to stack on my computer... sadly, this doesn't work. Not only is there a great deal of artifact generated (such as Marlene showed here), but also 1:1 magnification mode is impossible on my 60mm Olympus F2.8 macro lense because it only allows for manual focusing (Post Focus uses auto focus, obviously). Oh, well.
I don't think it works for serious stacking of macro photos.. Likely more suitable for landscape photos.
Do all focus stacking have this issue for all cameras, or its only this camera that suffers from it ?
If you manually focus stack at extreme ends of near and far focus, you will likely have some halos and funny stuff. So keep that in mind. It's the extremes that it will show up in, especially a super close foreground.
@@ImageMaven Thank you, does it do a perfect job on macro photography like taking a picture of a jewellery ring to make then all in focus the whole ring. Would it work perfect in that case.
I haven’t tested that scenario myself. But with a small fstop you would have better depth of field anyhow. I have shot jewelry in the past with no focus stacking, with the whole piece in focus. So I’m not sure it’s necessary. Most people use stacking for landscapes. If you have a G9 you can test it for yourself.
will post focus work if shooting in manual focus mode?
Not with the 4k method. But you can do focus stacking completely manually and choose the images you want to combine after the fact.
in camera or post processing?@@ImageMaven
Post
This is a nice feature for quick captures, but to anyone coming to this who doesn't know, there's focus bracketing on the G9 that can actually save RAW files. Shooting JPEGs is like getting ingredients for a dinner and just mashing them together randomly and eating it cold. The camera can't see what you see, so what you see on the back of the camera isn't important unless it's a histogram. It's about capturing light, Photoshop is the preparation of the image from the light you deem realistic/nice. People that start with "ooh I don't want to use Photoshop" might as well be chefs that tell me they hate frying pans.
If you have the best scene in the world for 2 minutes and happened to choose the wrong white balance, your focus stacked image is 100% useless. Shoot RAW.
Thanks for adding your thoughts and experiences to the conversation. I'm one of those people who doesn't have time and doesn't like to cook. I know how to cook, and I've even taught cooking lessons, but I'd rather spend my time doing other things like taking photos and videos. So I'm really happy that I can do so much "in camera" with the Lumix G9. Lucky us, there's room for all kinds of cameras that work for all kinds of photographers in this world. Cheers, and Happy cooking!
@@ImageMaven excellent reply
I to like getting it right in camera
With Olympus you see what you get
And the g9 also
8:37 I think the thistles might have been dancing for you.
I want to stack in PP for better control.
This is Ok, But there are a few issues here that Panasonic needs to fix in a new firmware upgrade. 1. I believe that the file extraction is not full resolution, it's 18meg not 20, and it's only in jpeg, Not Raw. Also, If I choose to use Focus bracketing, You can't use any flash or Strobe commander on the Hotshoe, it cancels out bracketing of any kind, period. Someone mentioned that you could use a PC-Sync cord, but I have wireless strobes, I don't want to have wires all over my studio. What they should do is allow flash and strobes to work with focus bracketing, by having a option in camera to set a shutter delay, 3-4 time options, for each bracketed shot. This would give the strobes or flashes time to recycle.
I just found out that Olympus cameras are fine with this G9 short coming. There aren't too many, but this one frustrates me. I use my G9 in studio a lot. Nice training videos.
Hi Leon, you certainly have dug deep and pushed this camera to the limits. Learned a lot from your comments. Thanks so much for sharing.
Hard to chose between HiRes mode or Focus Stracking mode. LOL.
I guess it depends on how big a file you need to work with in the end. But yes, similar process.
That’s what I am after.
Great. Have fun experimenting!
Will it be worthwhile to buy a G9 in year 2024?
Yes! Great price on it now. But if you’re a serious birder then I do think the G9II is better.
@@ImageMaven Where can I get the difference feature by feature between these two models ? Do u hv a video on it?
No I don’t. You might be better off finding one video for each camera. Or go to a bigger camera review channel. Or better yet check out one of the Lumix CZcams channels or early reviews of each camera where they go through all the specs.
I'm wondering if focus stacking might be useful in the following ways for bird photography novices like me?
1. A bird sat in a tree with branches around it. I find the normal autofocusing methods can be a real pita and I often miss the moment and end up with pin sharp images of branches.
2. A flock of birds on the ground where again it can be difficult to get the correct focus point quickly enough
3. Birds in flight again where focussing is something that up until now is only reliably achievable after lots and lots of parcatice
It may come down to how quickly the various shots that make up the 4k/6k image can be taken and/or recorded. The speed of the card may be the bottleneck rather than the camera ?
Hi Kevin, thanks for your question...
Option 1 -- possibly. But you're likely better off using a different focus method. If you have a Lumix you can touch the back of the screen, or choose a more pin point focus setting, maybe even face/subject detection. Guess they need a "bird" detection setting ;)
For Option 2 and 3, one of the 4k/6K burst modes would likely work better.
And for Option 2, using a smaller f/stop for better depth of field so more of the birds are in focus.
And in general focus stacking works best with a tripod/monopod so you've got that pita to deal with too, but I do know a lot of birders who use monopods with their long lenses.
Are you a Lumix shooter? Check out the 4k/6k burst modes, if you have a newer Lumix camera. More videos to come on that from me too. I did make some 4K Burst mode videos using my GX8 a couple years back if you want to check them out.
I have a G9 and the 100-400 and iI am steadily working through the various options for what suits me best here in the grey overcast UK. Thanks for your helpful comments. I'll let you know how I get on.
We have bright sun, but woke up to -18 C here and a couple of centimetres of fresh snow! Quite unusual for us this time of year. Not the snow, but never this cold!
Not finding your 4K post processing video.
Sorry I'll check my links! Here it is. czcams.com/video/vvRbWlDHdM0/video.html
The halo is produced because of the change in magnification of the image at different focal lengths it is the fault of the glass. What was the lens in question? Is it possible to use manual focus and click ten images and get the camera to add all the images to get a multiple focal points image composed?
Quel dommage de ne pas vous comprendre , ( Anglais ) ..!! Vos tutos sont génials , mais jamais en Français .vraiment dommage ...!! Merci Bien cordialement .., Hubert
Bonjour Hubert, Thank you for your comments. I just added captions to this video. Hopefully the French translation is good enough for you to understand all the important details. Marlene
Merci Marlene pour votre réponse , vos tutos sont géniales Gros Bisous de France HUbert
Your sample was choosen was not a good sample
i dont like this feature much.
The problem is though, that Pana Jpegs are of crap quality.
Marlene - you probably have awesome info for us - but your machine-gun-Fire intro says you’ve said it way too many times and is over familiar to you. Please slow it down to a normal conversational speed. It is also somewhat disrespectful to your audience to rip through the introduction- makes it seem trivial and unimportant. -if so - why put us though it? 😕
Noted. Thanks for the most important feedback I've ever received.