FlowMaster 40 vs 50 delta flow on a Fox Body Mustang
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- How does the Flowmaster original 40 series mufflers stack up against the new Flowmaster 50 series Delta? Does this decreast interior sound levels? Does it make your CAM sound better?
Linked video will show decibel levels for Flowmaster 40 series mufflers inside and out.
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Rev up your engines and get ready for an epic battle of exhaust tones! In this exciting video, we dive into the world of Mustang mods as we compare two iconic FlowMaster mufflers: the FlowMaster 40 and 50 Delta Flow. Join us as we unleash the raw power of these mufflers on a Fox Body Mustang, and discover which one reigns supreme in the quest for the perfect exhaust note.
Our expert team takes you through a side-by-side comparison of these two FlowMaster options, showcasing the unique characteristics and sound profiles of each. From aggressive growls to melodic purrs, you'll witness firsthand how these mufflers transform the auditory experience of your Fox Body Mustang.
Prepare to be blown away as we crank up the volume and capture the essence of these FlowMaster exhaust systems. Buckle up and join us on this exhilarating journey as we uncover the secrets to achieving that perfect engine symphony.
Make sure to hit that subscribe button and turn on notifications so you never miss an update from our channel. Get ready to unleash the beast within your Fox Body Mustang with the FlowMaster 40 vs 50 Delta Flow exhaust showdown!
Important thing to remember here is that decibels are on a logarithmic scale. Every 3db actually equals a doubling in sound pressure. So losing 8-10dbs as you are in most cases here is actually a huge difference, especially when it comes to those annoying drone frequencies.
I went from a Thrush muffler in my 4.6 4V to the Series 50 Delta Flow, totally awesome reduction in drone at all rpm ranges. Quieter at idle and still sounds great when you get on it. Exactly what the video says. Great job, well done. Happy motoring.
I didn't know the particulars of that, but wondered about it. Thanks! That really helps me in shopping for something to replace my Jegs version of 2 chamber 40s.
dam you cant ever beat the sound of a pair of flowmasters
"Nothing can ever be easy." 100% truth!
Thank you so much for the video. Love the way to match a new bolt hole with the drill bits n chaser.
Sounds really good dude, I like the 50s. Great comparison
Thank you for the great comparison video, great editing. People often complain about how loud Flowmasters are while they choose the loudest Flowmasters lol it's an odd thing, but I like the tone of the 50s you installed, and 8-10db is a huge reduction
Thanks for the kind comments! I've had the 50s on for a while now and I really like them! Ears don't ring anymore after a couple miles 🤣😂. No regrets!
Really great video and I appreciate the DB meter. I know that road you on too. Made me chuckle. Thanks again.
Thank you! Lol 😅. That's funny! I guess we neighbors then!!
Thank you! Been looking for anything comparing the two types of FM 40s and 50s. Awesome and helpful video.
Thats the best side by side comparison ive ever seen, job well done. i also had the same problem with my 94 cobra with the collector dented i think its from not pulling the h pipe on even. I switched to equal length bbk headers and a pace setter x pipe with 40 series and 3inch flowmaster tailpipes for a fox like urs and it sounds raspy and rowdy. just took my mufflers to an exhaust shop and had the outlet swelled to match the 3inch tailpipes and it fit perfect i also switched to the band clamps myself for the same reason.From your video and your car i think you would like it. I wish exhaust companies would do what you did thats helpful on making a decision on exhaust because thats as important as wheels to guys like us.
Thank you so much for the kind comments! I totally agree! If it's so loud it gives me a headache, I just don't enjoy that anymore LOL. Would love to hear a sound byte of your 3 inch flowmasters if there is one up somewhere!
Excellent, comprehensive comparison. Thank you.
All fox body 302 v8 sound great with flowmasters, 40's are the best sound in my mind
Thank for documenting and posting this- exactly the kind of information that I was looking for!
Great job!👍🏻
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thanks for this. I will definitely go with 50s
Wow...excellent video..thanks man..those 50's are really nice..
I've got the 40's on my Chevelle. It's awesome to hear that rumble. I like the 40's.
Great video, very scientific with the decibel meter and nice job documenting the install. Subscribed
Thank you!!!
Great video buddy!😃 Car sounds Awesome! 👍Very helpful and informative. Cheers
Thanks so much!!
this video deserves more likes
50 series is great for cruising and highway speeds, however if you want to be heard a block away before pulling up to a local car show it’s not the one I have the 50’s btw.
Agreed!!
Really thankful, got the info I was looking for. 👌🏽
Great video! Thanks for the content!
Another option which gives a more throaty sound, is the 50-series Big Block SUV. The dual-in/dual-out single muffler really knocks down on the annoying higher frequencies that make conversation hard, without holding back the lower frequencies.
Awesome video! Thank you for such detail! I went with 44's I believe its right in the middle of your two...
Awesome! Thank you! Would love to hear a sound clip. 😎
Awesome video brother, thank you for taking the time:)
Man I wish I was as mechanically inclined as you are:(
Thanks for the kind comment! I not very good really, but I have a few friends that are master mechanics that I can call when I get stumped 🤣😂🤣
That's a good tip on the masonry bits. I'm gonna have to remember that one. 👍. I like the 50 series. Awesome comparison
Thank you for watching! I really like them!
Hard on the throttle, both were about the same. Im very impressed on how good a 50 sounds. Car sounds amazing
Awsome video, very well done.
Thank you!!
Cool video, both sound really good! The 50 series sounds more throaty at idle, but the 40's will win every time. Nice Foxbody!🇺🇸🐺
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I literally just did the exhaust on mine a week and a half ago, and had the same issue with the clamps.
Also, the hourglass dealio that you milled flattened the outside pipe of the lap joint on mine, causing a leak at every single clamp.
Great vid!
Many thanks.
You understand that the struggle is real lol 🤣😂. Thanks for watching!
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Oh it is absolutely real.
My brother works for Summit in Akron. I texted him about it.
Lol
That's awesome!!! Wow! It's a small world 😁.
I love my 44's... Im glad i went and chose those!
I wonder how they compare to the 50s? Might be a good future video 🤣
Appreciate this video, mate. I've got a 2018 GT with a muffler delete (from the previous owner) and I'm looking at getting a pair of Flowmaster 50 Delta Flows. The car currently idles around 75-80 dB w/o mufflers (according to the free app I installed on my phone) which is loud but still within California's noise limits. Looks like the 50 Delta Flows should turn that down a little bit more.
The mufflers should help me be less obtrusive and avoid being pulled over, but California law also requires you to have mufflers to pass Smog, so I'm going to need a pair sooner or later. Appreciate the video!
Greetings. That was a very informative video. The drone will definitely give you a headache at certain RPM. I had a MAC off-road H-pipe, MAC shorty with 2 1/2 in exhaust with 40 series (drone). I tried an X-pipe with high flow cats (too quiet) and finally settled on a BBK shorty, MAC Pro-chamber (no drone, nice sound) but the off-road H-pipe sounded the best. I might go with your new setup or try to find some MAC Flowpath mufflers. MAC has gone out of business though. I have 3.73 gears. Thanks!
Im running the flow fx mufflers. very happy with them.
Nice!
I was considering these cause the straight through design, love to here how it sounds!
i agree! Ive used the flow fx mufflers on 2 different cars and love the sound! No drone or raspy just nice deep sound without restrictions.
@@TheGto389 absolutely
Love the original 40s Have them on my 97 stang gt. But those 50s sound good !
Thank you for a well done video that is sure to help some people come to a decision.
Back almlst 20yrs ago, on my lincoln mark vii, which has a 302 5.0, i had what at the time flowmaster called the series 2. I still have them, just not installed. I actually had them on 3 cars, 2 mark vii's and a mustang. Always loved the sound of them, but they were a bit droney. Didnt give me a headache or annoying to drive, and i had them kick out behind the rear wheels instead of straight back.
Great music and great editing. I left a reply on the other comment from earlier. Back in Fort Myers Florida… 94-95 was possibly the best street racing around… way out in East leecounty was two undeveloped areas… two separate strips “Sunni land” near Buckingham area and “blackstone” dammed near everyone was getting their Fox bodies work on by the “lethal injection” crew. Everyone ….almost everyone was running dumps with their flowmasters… no matter what series. It just sounded like heaven. And when people asked who is that?…. I would answer….
“it’s me”!!!!!!
Oh yeah! Back in the day, they couldn't be loud enough, and "too loud" was a four letter word! We spent every friday night at Farmington Dragway here in NC. My car racked up 40 or 50 miles on that 1/8 mile drag strip LOL 🤣😂🤣. I keep threatening to go back and give her another run. Maybe, one day soon :). Thanks for the comments!
So the 50 is quieter … that’s what I needed to hear. Thanks bro! 🙏
Same here but trying to decide on the Delta 50 or the Super 50 for my GMC Sierra. I got 4 ladies to keep happy on our family trips.
Thanks for the excellent comparison. Car looks and sounds great. I have a supercharged 5.4 3v F150 with shorty headers, no cats, a resonator, and Banks 3" single. The drone is obnoxiously loud, and its so clappy. I might have to try the 50 series.
I'm loving the 50s about 95% of the time. I do miss the 40s that 5% though 🤣🤣🤣
Very helpful 🙏
Great video! I have always loved 40's, but those 50's seem to have a little beefier, meaner sound.
I do miss the idle of the 40s, but I sure don't miss the drone 🤣🤣. Thanks for watching!
You're my hero!...lol. Seriously tho, awesome video!! I really really appreciate the time and effort involved
Thank you so much for the kind comment! And thanks for watching!
@@ThisOldFarmShopAbsolutely! Great info. Forgot to ask, what rear gears do you have?
Running 3.55's. Doing a 2005 cobra limited slip upgrade right now 👍
I just the two 40 series Delta Flow on my dual exhaust Bronco and think they're a little mellower than the original 40 series.
The engine and pipe size makes all the difference in the world, my 95 5.0 is all of it's low hp stock glory, I have the original exhaust but the 4 cats are gutted and I finally removed the knockoff 10 series mufflers I put on so now I have no mufflers and the last 18" or so is 3" and it is pretty loud and it does sound pretty sexy but your car is easily louder with those 50s! I do have very little drone. My pickup has a 355 in the 350hp area with long tubes 3" pipe and turn down dumps at the axle and I ran original 40s for years and it just got so old just loud! I ended up tossing some cheap cherry bomb turbos on it and it is way quieter but still pretty loud, but it's a deep loud. But back when it had the 40s my truck idling drowned out a buddy's Chevelle that had a tired 350 and dual 2.25 exhaust with original 40s, with my truck idling you couldn't hear that Chevelle even running. Engine and pipe size! BTW you fox is pretty sick, love the sound with both, nice idle too...
Thanks for the kind comments! It hard to beat the sound of those 40s, just too loud for my now half century old ears 🤣😂🤣
Awesome car! Can you give some of motor mods and rear gear set up? Thanks for the videos!!
Thank you! Heres a short list of parts: 351 block, AFR 205 heads, Bigdogs stage 2 ported cobra intake, Anderson power pipe, 80mm mass air, 75mm throttle body, comp cams xfi 236/248 cam, 351 conversion bbk shorty headers, pro-m efi computer, 2.5" full exhaust, A/C, tkx transmission, 3.55 rear gears, stock rear end and axles.
Have the Original 40 series on my 2007 GMC Sierra classic its loud on cold start and when I hit 70mph
I have used both and the 40's just are obnoxious on long drives. I loved the 50's on my 327 C10 truck.... perfect
Thanks for watching! I love the 50s, haven't worn ear plugs since installing them 🤣😂
Great muffler video, your car looks and sounds amazing.. I am putting 40s on my fox next few day couldn’t resist got a deal on them having flows is better then having none lol car I bought had straight pipe I don’t like how that sounds at all.
Thank you much! Would love to hear a sound bite of it once you get them on. Thanks for watching!
I got my foxbody when i was 20. The stock exhaust was the first thing to go. I have mac shorty headers, a bassini X pipe and 3 chamber flowmasters. I love the sound but now im 50 and I dont enjoy all the things I did at 20. I would really love to make the car a little quiter. My back doesn't like the stiffer springs and or the polygraphite bushings either. 😅😂
Amen brother!! I totally get where you're coming from. 🤣😂🤣
Simple: bigger box - lower sound
Not exactly... The 50s use hiemholtz resonance chambers to cancel certain frequencies. Thanks for the comment!
Great video! I love the old school 40 series sound, but went with the 50's for all the same reasons you did. The interior drone is just too much with the 40's and when you lay into the throttle the 50's sound just as good if not better.
I totally agree! Thanks for watching!
Any power difference between the 40's and 50 series ? Great comparison video 👍
I can't tell any difference using the ever trusted seat of the pants method lol. The 50s are supposed to flow better according to the literature, but I can't tell any difference. Thanks for watching!!
👍🏼Thanks
If I ever buy another Mustang to replace my 87, I'll be probably go with a Flowmaster exhaust. In an effort to keep drone to a minimum, I'll use an off road x-pipe (they drone less than H in my experience) and Flowmaster 50 Series HD mufflers (the highest flowing 50 series, according to Flowmaster). I like the Flowmaster sound with the 302 but I want the more grown-up sound of the 50 series.
Also if I buy one, I'm going to build a 347 stroker so it has plenty of power to back up the sound. Want to be able to dust brand new Mustang GTs.
Sounds like a good plan! 👍👍👍
@@ThisOldFarmShop Which 50 series is on your car? I must have missed when you said or showed it. Is it the Super 50 or Delta 50? If I remember correctly, the Super 50 is the biggest one, made mostly for trucks.
@AdmiralRustyShackleford Deltas 👍👍
They both sound very good. I was surprised how well the 50's sounded. I thought they would clamp things down too much.
I do miss that rumble at idle, but I don't miss the headache and it still sounds great when accelerating! Thanks!
The 50s sound best. Its what I'm running on my Oldsmobile 442 small block.
I just ordered flowmaster 50 series delta from Amazon for my honda city gm6 4 cylinder. Do you think im wrong to pick 50 series for my honda city? I want to increase the torque and engine efficiency of my honda city. Thank you for your reply.
I think they will definitely flow better than stock, so should increase power and mpg. Should tame the raspiness of a 4 cylinder better than the 40's as well, I would think. Let us know how it turns out! I'm curious :)
Definitely a fitty fan.
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Thanks for the video! My 95 cobra came with shorty headers off-road x-pipe with borla catback. Having fun with it but going to want something quieter in the long run that. 50 series?
Hey Keith! Thanks for watching! I'm not sure about the 50's vs. your borlas... I have however heard others say that the x pipe is slightly quieter than it's h pipe cousin so that should be helping you a little... Do you know if there is any packing or chambers in the borlas you have now?
@@ThisOldFarmShop thank you! it is a nice quality system and doesn't drone or leak but getting older and wanting something more quiet at low rpm not wake the neighbors at 6am. I also want to run a panhard bar and flowmaster catback kit is supposed to work with the maximum motorsports panhard kit. Here is what it says on how it is made:
BORLA® mufflers, on the other hand, contain high quality, continuous strand fiber bundle which is superior to the loose fiberglass packing in glasspack mufflers. This high quality packing material and stainless steel inner core construction, which is impervious to all corrosive acids, protects the packing from breaking down and getting blown out, so a BORLA® muffler never needs replacing. In addition, a BORLA® muffler is the most effective sound-absorbing device for the size, and it is guaranteed for one million miles.
I know borla makes a quality product! One thought is maybe get a cheap decibel meter and run the same tests I did against your current setup. That might give you an idea of how the 50's will stack up against the borlas.
@@ThisOldFarmShop good idea thanks
SOUND DEPENDS ON TYPE OF CAR. I LIKE ,40s
With the top down Ill keep the 40s. But with the top up and no blockage from normal components, I am already deaf from years of driving a truck.
I'm looking for a really quiet muffler for a sleeper vehicle. Doesn't seem like this will do the trick like i thought they would. A little quieter but not really that much. Maybe magnaflow?
Yeah, I would say the 50s would be too loud for a sleeper. Not sure what direction you should go, but I do know Flowmaster makes some quieter mufflers...
Take a look at Gibson for a quieter sound.
A silly question, but would these mufflers on stock h pipe and stock motor be quieter?
Yes they would. You would probably be disappointed at how quiet they would be...
What cam are you running in your car?
Comp cams xfi... amzn.to/49WNPMn Thanks for watching!
6:34 Don’t worry when I had installed a set of equal length headers on my 95 GT I had mixed up the wires to cylinder 3 and 4 I died inside when I cranked it up and immediately turned it off 🤣
LoL 🤣. You know that "Sinking feeling" 😂🤣😂
I used to have super 40s on my fox and they were faaaantastic, but were built like sh*t as the chambers rattled away after 2 years. A borla or magnaflow is the way to go. If i had another fox, even tho flowmaster suck in build quality, i would get another pair just for nostalgia. Nothing like a 5.0 with flowies
Flowmasters have been reducing exhaust cfm flow for decades. We've done flow testing and dyno testing on them and after a certain point they absolutely kill HP. David Vizard also said the same thing about the Flowmasters years ago.
Good video though.
I remember seeing one of your videos about that a while back. Have you had a chance to test the new flowmaster delta flow mufflers which are "supposed" to flow better? Thanks!
Depends on what setup you have, if you're running headers and no cats on a 10-11 compression ratio motor some backpressure will help hp numbers
@@ThisOldFarmShop we actually have a set of the new deltas in the show. We are gathering various mufflers together to do a big cfm flow test. Flowmaster realized word had gotten around in the LS world that their mufflers were robbing hp. Guys were reporting 20-40whp losses!!
@@79cobra13 that's absolutely not true. Any Exhaust back pressure adds resistance to the piston which decreases hp.
I wish people stop spreading that false information
@@bigdogsportingtonyb2833 looking forward to your video on it!!
You have any sound deadening like boom matt or dynamat?
No 😥
40s are my fav lol ill always run them
They have an unbeatable sound!!! I love them too, but my old ears just can't take it anymore lol 😭😆😆
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Sounds like it changed octaves more than anything. Went from a low C to a low B.
Milling them clamps down created a leak. Those types of clamps leak a tad anyway, and doing that made it much worse in sure.
Huh oh. Did you try it and get a leak? Mine seem to be pretty good. I inspected the exhaust with it running on the lift. 👍
When I take my mustang out, it's not 4 comfort, I'd take my sheddy caddy instead, 40's is my choice, but my single chambers sound even better
40's all the way. The H-pipe is what give the 5.0L fuelie its signature sound.
What is the pipe diameter?
2.5" 👍
Love the mustang 🐎! The 40s are for the young guys! When you get older it's not so appealing 😂
Thanks!! Love the 40s, but not worth the literal headache 😂🤣
I've got an 84 s10 that I've swapped a 383 into. It had dual 40s with its original engine and that carried over to this one. They are way to loud. Its been like this for years and I'm just over it. The resonance shaking the cab at certain rpm is just noise it doesn't even sound good. Once that goes away it sounds good. So basically I'm trying to decide weather to get 50s and do what you did. Seems like the solution.
@rcjg24 I'm with you. Loved the 40s, but hated them on the modified 351. Just gave me a headache within 5 minutes every time I drove it. The 50s don't please the crowd as much as the 40s, but they have me smiling again lol 😅👍
@ThisOldFarmShop yeah I'm not to worried about pleasing the crowd. No ine cares about my rig amyway. I just hope I don't make it to quiet. I have a magniflow resonator x pipe that I just did that made it a little quieter. I could always take that back out for a standard x pipe. Thanks for the video!
hows the pro m treating you?
So far so good! I've kinda just forgotten about it. Car never stalls, just runs and does what I ask of it. My plan is to get to the dyno before summer. I can't decide if I'm going to let them play with the tune some, or just leave it be and let it do it's thing LOL.
@@ThisOldFarmShop leave it alone and send it. time for a supercharger
why have a muscle car without loud exhaust, that makes no sense!
Still 95 decibels. Not loud enough for you LoL. 👂👂👂
Hey, if it's too loud you're too old!
Tell me about it! 😂🤣😂
50s and sometimes 44s is the way to go.
40s are obnoxious
40's sounded way better.
I agree, I'm just too old lol 🤣😆😆
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The 50's sound better to be honest!
Nice 😊
40s sounds way much better
50's sound way better i have those installed on my car
50 series is for the weak. Loud and proud….wake the dead…..40 series….
Wake the dead is spot on LOL
Farm shop!…. You know you wanna do a video with those 40 series slapped back on there…. With dumps!…. Call it “sounding lethal back in the day” on board camera on the hatch back and inside on the dashboard facing you…, stroll up to 4th gear,… drop that pushrod torque hungry beast into second gear and work it all the way up through fourth….. let off and push the clutch in, slap that shifter left to right while giving it the champions double up slap of the accelerator and say “welcome to the early 90’s fans”! “Wooo”!!! “Nature Boy”!!!!😂
Lose the music. We want to hear you, not music.
I will do better 👍
loose the shades.
You should have tested those mufflers with a real muscle car not a little pony so we can hear the real difference.
It's the little pony that could
i wish someone would do a video on muffler placement and what the changes in tone are. Placement as in closer or further from the engine or before and after the axle. seems like the newer (as in 05+) mustangs are more aggressive tone they have the mufflers after the rear axle. I wonder if that's the reasoning but haven't seen a video on it.
That is a very interesting idea! I'm sure it would make a difference as to where to place them. I would think more throaty the closer the muffler is to the rear, but that's just a guess. Without some gas tank mods, I'm not sure you could fit a muffler after the axle on a fox body, but there's probably someone out there that has done it!