Is the Triumph Daytona 660 worthy of the Daytona Name? First look of the 660 at the factory.
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- First look at the brand new Triumph Daytona 660 at the Hinkley Triumph Factory.
0:00 Start with look at the Triumph Daytona 765 Moto 2
0:58 Triumph Daytona 660 First Look
3:30 How does it compare to the Daytona 675?
5:19 The Triumph Land Speed Rocket 3
5:56 Triumph TR6 Trophy Steve McQueen Great Escape Bike
6:46 Upstairs at the Triumph Visitor Experience
8:42 Is the Daytona 660 a real Daytona? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
So many amazing bikes in that building! It’s tempting to say too much on this topic (which is a fantastic one), but ultimately we all know where the market is at. Manufactures need to use platforms to keep costs down, and supersports don’t sell anymore. The reality, like it or not, is that it was this or nothing.
Probably the best and most reasoned comment we've had so far. Appreciate you watching. If you get chance to visit Triumph Hinkley I highly recommend it.
My view that none of the at least six bikes since 1966 that have carried the Daytona name and none own the name exclusively. There have been two and four cylinder Daytonas as well as varying from 500 to 1200ccs and most were not racing bikes.
Thanks for the tour.
Interesting👍 I guess Triumph already did the same with the A2 Street Triple S 660. It's still a Street Triple.
Yup most Daytona's have been street bikes, but keyboard warriors are ouy moaning that it's not deserving all because of the 675, people just love to cry. This is a safe move by Triumph and I am all for it.
As you know, I do love Triumph Motorcycles. I always wanted a street or speed triple. Maybe one day.
Something still special about owning a Triumph Rocket with the largest displacement of any production motorcycle. I suspect like me, you would find the Street Triple a little cramped.
@@Banditmanuk I would imagine so, however the zippiness appeals to me.
Riding well be the proof, but this may be a brilliant move for Triumph! The last 675 Daytona was a wonderful expensive bike that didn't sell well. However, a 10k sport bike may sell in the numbers they need. In the past, Triumph has gotten a lot out of modest components with careful tuning and development. If that's the case here, it may be what the market needs. The first Daytona was a 500cc twin that was overshadowed by the 650 twin - but the 500 won the race the bike was named after
You may well be correct 👍👍
This bike could sell very well.
Thanks for sharing it. To me it looks very similar to the Honda CBR500R somehow. The Steve McQueen model was nice. :)
Yes there are a few bikes now from several manufactures in this 'softer' cheaper middle weight sector that look similar.
The owner of that Steve McQueen bike (Dick Shepherd) once let me sit on it. It's the bike that's probably worth most money in that whole building
@@Banditmanuk I see. That was a great experience in my opinion. Do you have a footage of that?
@@RRRRefuelRideRace Its at 20mins 20 secs on this vid czcams.com/video/F6KW_s-6f6k/video.htmlsi=siwQUypg5X2W0cNw
"Please do not touch". *touches*.
Yes it is worthy of the name, markets change so factories have to change as well. Yesterday was in the Triumph dealer at Tours France but it was not yet there. Only the 400 scrambler, not for me I want to test the road version. So yes Daytona !
Interesting to see how the views in the comments section go. I'm sure as a commercial sales decision by Triumph, it's the right one.
Those 400s look good and are great value👍👍
Yes it's a Daytona ! 🏍
It definitely has the triumph quality 👌 and a good way to get more models out of one engine, the Daytona was my first project with triumph so definitely has a place in my heart ❤️
I remember when the first Daytona bikes came out. Reading the first press on the bikes. Think many people were blown away by how good that 675 was. You guys must have known you had something special even in testing.
@@Banditmanuk it was the turning point for triumph and made them the company they are today 👌
The new 660 does look a bit like a CBR knockoff that's my only issue with it.
You're both spot on, it certainly isn't extreme, definitely not compared to the 675's, those were great fun (although very small for us taller lot).
Love it up there, haven't been for a while. Great video from you both. Hope you're both well 🙂
The Triumph Factory Visitor Experience is sort of our default ride out/cafe stop. Its always nice when they have something new to film when we arrive.
Yep, get the CBR vibe👍👍
All good here, thank you
I feel like the red kind of does it. But the more I look at it the more it has a sort of "owl" look to it, as opposed to the cbr's alien look. cbr feels jagged and alien as opposed to the triumphs handsome and birdlike. I think itll look real different in person.
Definitely worthy of the name. Lovely looking bike plus the Trident looks nothing like a Trident of days gone by. I’m tempted to swap my old speed triple for one.
Think it's going to be a good bike. Yes, it looks great and undoubtedly more comfortable than the old 675 Daytona. A real cross section of opinions here in the comments over the name.
I think you've both said it on point, this bike is a watered down effort at reclaiming the Daytona name, I think the 765 version came closer to aspiring to that title. I hope the lights on Triumphs bikes are better than at their factory, which don't show off the bikes in a good light at all ( pardon the pun).
🤣🤣 Yep, lighting the bikes to get a decent picture was a bit of a nightmare. The factory and museum are still well worth a visit if you're ever down our way
@Banditmanuk I did the Triumph visitor experience in the summer of 2022. 5 of us rode up from South Wilts for the day. We all thoroughly enjoyed it, a great day out and the tickets were reasonably priced.
In my opinion it isn't a Daytona and its diluted the name. They should have brought the naming back from the early 90s and called it a Sprint or Sprint Sport. The naked version back then was the Trident and the half faired version was the Sprint. Later there was a Sprint RS and that was a semi-sports-tourer. Sounds right for the level of sportiness it seems to be.
Yes, I think so. I'm thinking it probably means Triumph has no intention of ever building a full on Daytona again. Hope I'm wrong.
I owned a 2012 daytona 675 a few years back, and I'm now on my 2nd street triple. Whilst the 675 and Moto2 daytona's are fantastic bikes, they have a very committed riding position, and for older, less fit, or larger riders, they are not comfortable bikes. I can see there's a market for the new daytona it being more of a sport tourer at a great price means it will appeal to more riders. I'm definitely interested in trying one, and the name doesn't bother me as prior to the 675, daytona's were less sporty.
Interesting getting the views of previous 675 owners. It's definitely going to appeal to a greater range of riders. At nearly 100bhp it's still going to be fun.
nice finish and good for todays roads and speed limits .
Yep. Think it's going to sell better than the old 675 Daytona 👍👍
You have to say that fans were asking for Triumph to bring back the Daytona, and they kinda have, although as you say is it a true Daytona? Time will tell. It’s interesting that a lot of race teams have taken the Street Triple 765 RS and modified a fairing to create a pretty awesome race machine!
From reading the comments section, there appears to be a 50% split between those who think Daytona name is fine and those who don't.
I would say the Moto 2 Street Triple 765 has a more extreme riding position than the new Daytona 660 and its definitely more powerful
Triumph got a lot of stick for the speed triple RR being to uncomfortable, so my be that was behind the thinking into raising the riding position on the new Daytona , or maybe its just been targeted at a slightly aging market who want to have a bit of fun .
Yes, I think they are making it more accessible for a greater range of people. It's much cheaper and no doubt insurance should be lower being under 100bhp.
Well guys I like this one it looks really nice and I am sure that engine is plenty powerful enough for todays roads and I believe the price ain't that bad either .Ok those original Daytonas were race bikes but I see no problem in doing a softer version for the road and calling it by that name at all .Maybe if I was being ultra picky I might say have the 675 engine but it really is not an issue for me I would have one with pleasure in my garage probably in red .😉👌👍
Agreed it looks a great bike. I suspect it's the past and current owners of the 675 + Moto2 Daytona that will have more of a problem with the name.
It would be nice to see a retro bike, based on the trident 3. Something to go up against the z900. It would give the flap cap Racer something to think about too! 😅
Haven't Triumph already got an extended retro range? I'm guessing the Speed Twin is now the closest after they stopped making the Thruxton 1200.
To be honest both Carol and I love the look of the Z900RS
Yes, but the trident 3 cylinder has always been different to the old twins, and far more of a match for the z900. The bsa rocket 3 is also a lovely looking bike. I agree that the z900 is a great copy of the original.
Triumph have reused and recycled quite a few model names like the Bonneville, Daytona etc. The new one looks nice and I hope will handle and ride very well.
Careful with your camera angles 😅😅
I've already had some stick for the stairs shot 🤣 Worthy of the name or not, it's a great looking well priced bike with decent power. It should sell well.
@@Banditmanuk 😂😂😂
I may be coming up to your part of the world at some stage to visit the factory and try out some of the Biker's Britain routes
No no no !!!!
Might as well put a fairing and clip on .
On a street triple RS
That would indeed be faster
In answer to your question....no not really. With the considerable popularity of Triumph's 660 engine, I think they have simply made a cunning business decision to add the Daytona name to its 660 line-up, hoping to capitalised on the iconic status of the Daytona brand. Not a wise move in my book.
I completely agree why they've done it. Interesting on the cross section of opinions here in the comments section. Feels about 50/50 yes/no so far. Completely unscientific, of course.
Doesn't appear to include adjustable suspension and quick shifter is optional. If included these then maybe would pay homage to Buddy Elmore.😀@@Banditmanuk
@@ec9156 Buddy was a bit before my time but i get it 👍🏽👍🏽
Design is amazing but handlebar very bad position, ı need the clip-on
I'm sure it could be modified👍 Thanks for watching
People spend more time moaning about not doing justice to the Daytona name while no one on earth is bemoaning the yamaha R7 and where the original R7 used to be
People do do seem more forgiving to Yamaha, although most folks cannot recall the old R7
Looks a bit "safe" and wimpy to me, not the aggressive and snarling sportsbike it should be.
Agreed, but I think it will sell.
I don't have any issue with the bike, but calling it a Daytona is a bit unfitting. I do find myself very frustrated with how conservative Triumph are with their paint options yet again... how boring do these look in these colours.
Yep know what you mean about the colours. We did spy a red 660 in the factory but they appear to keep the exciting colours for the premium or higher models like the gorgeous yellow on the Street Triple RS. Just don't think I want any matt colour either
@@Banditmanuk Yeah, one of the reasons I got my Moto Guzzi V7 painted was because it had matt paint as stock
Seems like a Suzuki gsx8s ,,but it will suit someone,, Daytona wouldn't be the name for the bike in my mind 😜☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
Yep, several manufacturers have a soft low power, low spec, easier riding position bike in their range now.
I agree that it’s not really worthy of the Daytona name. Many of these ‘budget’ middleweights all look like they’ve been designed by the same team. I feel sorry for newer riders, when I was coming through there were plenty of exciting middleweight bikes, not the case these days.
Triumph are doing nothing different to all the other manufacturers. I think emissions regs have played a big part. Manufacturers were going backwards in power output from 600cc engines, so they're tried to re-invent the middle weight class.
No it's not a Daytona in the same way as the new CB750 Hornet is not a Hornet and the Yamaha R7 is not an R7. Albeit they're good bikes in their own right.
What's disappointing is the apparent lack of imagination by manufacturers in naming their new vehicles. Do they really think we're that gullible?
Think you've summed it up well 👍
@@Banditmanuk I should have mentioned that I bought the new CB750 "Hornet" two months ago. It's an excellent bike, but it's not a Hornet.
Not worthy of Daytona name. Very expensive 660 slightly comparable to a Street Triple 675. Manufacturer goofed by lazy naming for profit $$🤑,quite evident by 50/50 responses, which already eliminates 50% of market. The 2017 Triumph Daytona 675R 125HP would crush this Triumph "SLEIGHT" 660 (93HP). Why not come up with a similar 2017 Daytona 675R worthy bike and name it Triumph Shenanigan Triple. Richard/Carol, where was your usual cafe & pastry at the end? 🤣Eric, NC-USA.
It is difficult to disagree with anything you said.
We hit the cafe first this time but went savoury with hot paninis. Cafe was a bit packed this time, so felt a bit self conscious filming ourselves eating 🤣. Take our word. It was still good 👍