JOHN RHYS-DAVIES: LOTR Pessimism, Barely Surviving Indiana Jones & Life After Loss
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John Rhys-Davies (Indiana Jones, The Lord of the Rings) joins us this week for one of my favorite interviews yet.
The guy is prolific! He gets into everything from his pessimism heading into Lord of the Rings, the intimidation of working alongside Sean Connery, the immense difficulty of filming Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark, and so much more.
John was an open book this week, going on to talk about the pain of losing a child, his outlook on life after death, and the current vacuum of creativity our industry is stuck in. Hope you enjoy.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
4:02 - John Rhys-Davies
6:20 - LOTR pessimism
9:20 - Fully functional class act
15:01 - Opinion on Sean Connery's alpha behavior
19:23 - Nutrafol
22:10 - Auditioning
24:10 - Why he wanted to deny LOTR Gimli offer
26:50 - Why he said yes to LOTR Gimli offer
29:00 - Admiration for Peter Jackson
31:17 - Difficulty of shooting LOTR
36:05 - Confirming Indiana Jones rumors
40:24 - Relationship with Harrison Ford + Steven Spielberg
42:20 - Betterhelp
43:42 - Discover
45:30 - Improvisation on LOTR + Not the beard!
50:10 - Losing a child
52:58 - Preparing his children for his departure
57:10 - We know nothing
59:58 - Passion for original storytelling
1:03:15 - Outro
1:07:52 - Couldn’t do it without you
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JOHN RHYS-DAVIES: LOTR Pessimism, Barely Surviving Indiana Jones & Life After Loss #insideofyou #johnrhysdavies #lotr - Zábava
An absolute delight. I could listen to John talk for hours upon hours. Such an interesting guy and a true legend!
Big fan of your channel! Both surprised and not surprised to see you here. XD
Awesome 👏
Now, 20-25 years later and yes, he was right. The LOTR movies will become classics for generations.
It's a shame that sort of movie magic is unheard of these days.
Nothing is close.
Who knew the iconic line “Not the Beard” in LOTR was John telling Orlando I don’t want to redo the makeup and prosthetics so don’t grab the beard lol
"Bashing the bishop" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Loved it.
That's very a very old British saying
fantastic
Had the exact reaction. Wow lol
"I've used it occasionally, yes....and done it even more." what a fantastic line.
what does he use - cannot hear it as non-english speaker
The word "fuck"
Anyone watching Shogun now, he played Rodrigues in the 80s miniseries
Nothing against the new Rodrigues, he's perfectly fine, but the contrast between him and John in the original miniseries is night and day. John Rhys-Davies just leapt off the screen in the original. It's not easy to upstage Toshiro Mifune!
The 80s one was amazing. Rewatched it few times.
What timing! Just finished watching Episode 5 of Shogun (SO GOOD), and am on a FB Group where we’ve been talking about everything Shogun, including the 1980 miniseries. John Rhys-Davies was incredible as Rodrigues. Now I’m here watching to see if he mentions it at all. :-D
Thank you
Yes!
Been a huge fan of Mr. Davies since I was a kid!
My husband, kids and I met John Rhys-Davies back in January. He was so sweet and kind. Our son had fallen asleep in my husband's arms, and my husband was saying that his back was killing him, from holding our son. John got up, came around the table and gave my husband a shoulder and back rub. We were not expecting that, and yes, I took pictures. Such a lovely man !
Wow, that’s such a sweet story. I’m sure it will forever be told in your family, what a great guy!
I hope he got your husband's consent first?!
I met him at a sci fi / gaming convention. He just walked straight up to me and started talking, I recognized him from watching Sliders. He is such a lovely nice person and very nice to talk to :)
@@shyd00d he really is.
John Rhy-Davies IS an absolute legend. You landed another wonderful interview, Michael.
I remember John giving so much praise to the cast and crew of LOTF in the DVD sets as a kid and to hear him stand by it 20 years later is touching.
John Rhys-Davies is one of the kindest most giving people i ever met. He really is a fantastic person, if you ever get the chance to meet him, take it. So glad i got to talk and joke with him, what a blessing.
Samesies, he is a natural comedian. Plus joy in his heart and soul when he shares fascinating stories
Yep, got to meet him in SLC at a convention. He was engaged, friendly and very talkative. Interested in each of us asking about out backgrounds, schooling etc etc. Very nice person
He is very cool. I met him when I worked at a hotel. I spoke to him on the phone as well and he had me rolling. He is a riot in person!
Agreed. He's like a force of nature. I've met him at a couple of cons. Nicest, most engaging celebrity I've ever met.
100% agree! got to meet him and I feel the same way.I rarely go to a con to meet someone a second time. I have considered it every time I saw John going to another con.
Hey Michael, I've worked, at Cons, as the photo-op photographer, with John Rhys, for many years. I consider him a friend and I agree, he is a great guy. Exactly as you presented him, he is. A great guest, for you and a great dinner companion! Awesome show! BTW, I photographed you, once, back before covid and, for your fans, you, too, are a very genuine, sweet guy. All the best-Craig
I could listen to this treasure talk for hours. Poised, eloquent, charismatic. What a gem.
I'm still irate they fired him from Sliders and ruined what was rapidly becoming a classic show.
Truly
yes indeed.
LOTR was every perfect actor at the perfect time in their career. Pure casting gold. What John brings to it is inimitable. Warmth, humor, he practically runs away with the trilogy. My wife had never seen it until a couple years ago nor ever read the books, and Gimli was by far the character she enjoyed and remembered the most.
I agree with the casting of the LOTR. There was not a misplaced actor or anything else in those movies. They were spot on. However, I’m not sure it was at the perfect time in everyone’s career. Looking at Elijah Woods and some others, they seem to have been immortalised as their characters, never breaking free from them enough to go on entirely. Much like Leonard Nimoy - who wrote not only one book called “I’m not Spock”, but then also another book actually called “I am Spock” - they seem to carry the legacy with them, wherever they go. That can’t be easy.
What an absolute LEGEND yet humble lovely man he is. Sallah and Gimli will forever bring smiles to my face.
Honestly, I normally skip around in most interviews. On this one, I watched the WHOLE thing. Michael is right, this is one of the BEST interviews.
He is an absolute legend, one of my favourite people. I met him once with my daughter at a con in the UK and he was extraordinary. So warm and kind. He was taken aback by my young daughter's desire to be an archaeologist when she grows up and patted me on the back and said 'Well done dad'. I'll NEVER forget that moment. Love him!
Nice username, Flame of the West!
Sir Rhys-Davies is one actor that always makes me happy. He has such a humorous and good-hearted presence. ❤ One of the all-time greats.
He's not a Sir (though he arguably ought to be at this point, or an O.B.E. at least); he is, however, a top bloke and a diamond geezer.
@@steventhomas2856 , ha, I know he's not officially a Sir, it's just my own childish addition of admiration.
Absolute legend and a humble one at that. He defines the class that used to be in the acting profession and still can be found in pockets. Just one of the greats.
John is such a welcoming person; I was working a convention in Jacksonville, FL and day one he was just walking through EVERY isle of artist alley and vendors just going telling people to have a good and being friendly, first time I saw a guest starting the day like that
That was fantastic. His effervescence is contagious, his wisdom is profound, and there's such a unique and enriching texture about him and the way he speaks that it was nearly upsetting that the conversation was only barely an hour long. I wanted more. Many thanks to the hard working talent at Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum and Mr. Rhys-Davies for making this happen. It was truly a joy.
John Rhys-Davies is great, no questions there! But I think this episode really showcased Rosey's deep skill as an interviewer. This is definitely one of those interviews where you just let the guest talk because of his breadth of knowledge and experience, and you did just that. You're the man Rosey! 💯
Which he should do with everyone. He's far too prone to interrupting his guests.
Best guest ever
A couple months ago, I was talking about In Name of the King to someone, and we remembered Ray Liotta and Burt Reynolds are gone, then said, "Holy shit, we need to form a circle around Davies; we can't lose Sallah!"
As a Brit, this interview makes me so happy! I grew up listening to Johns incredible voice, watching him in Sliders & having him play Gimli on LOTRs was the icing on the cake👌 Brilliant interview, top notch! Thank you very much John & Michael for this awesome episode🙂✌️🇬🇧🩵
Have you ever heard his narration of the bible? He's got the voice for it. Very classy man.
He will always be Professor Arturo to me, grew up watching sliders "chain reactions" (marathons) on syfy channel.
I absolutely love this man. Me and my brother's family met him at a Texas pinball festival years ago and he was so amazing and sweet to each and every fan. And it's not an act, that charm he effortlessly lets loose on screen, that's him. I met lots of celebrities at the pinball festival over the years and him and Sam Jones (of Flash Gordon/Ted fame) were my absolutely favorites, by far.
Had the pleasure of meeting Mr John Rhys Davies a few years ago and he is without a doubt one of lifes all time greats! They just don't make him like that anymore. Much respect.
Rosey, without a freaking doubt, this was your BEST interview EVER! The man is a national treasure. Thank you SO much for having him on.
Years ago I met actress Virginia Hey (Zhaan in Farscape). She worked with John Rhys Davies in The Living Daylights. She had nothing but good to say about John.
Timothy Dalton was one of his classmate at Royal Academy of Dramatic Art.
John recently worked on a short film with a friend of mine who was the director. He was, and remains, an absolute legend and raconteur.
38:44: “God died at that moment… I knew there was no hope…” I’m sorry but John made that pain that so many of us have gone through at least once in our lives, just plain hilarious!!!!❤❤❤❤
This was my favorite interview of the year. I hope to be half as interesting as him when I’m 80
In Sweden John is really well known for another film called Ivanhoe.
They play it on national tv, the first of Jan every year, without exceptions.
This is one of the most entertaining interviews to date. I literally laughed out loud. I could listen to John Rhys-Davies for hours. Such an interesting guest.
This man radiates a genuine warmth. I have admired his film work, this interview confirms he's open and positive.
A giver, not a taker.
Michael, in addition to being an excellent actor, is a good interviewer. I am very happy every week to bring us so much entertainment and especially to talk about mental health.
51:55 The man is basically explaining the plot of John Q.
"No Parent should have to bury their child" - Theoden
I first saw him as Rodriguez in the 1980 Shogun miniseries. He always has such a presence and I've enjoyed watching everything he's done since. Fantastic actor!! I haven't seen the new Shogun miniseries yet, but it would be amazing if some of the original cast had cameos.
Glorious episode! What an absolute legend. I'm referring to Ryan of course.
No, seriously, John Rhys-Davies was spectacular and is an absolute legend. Great conversations. Thanks for the show, guys!
What an absolute legend. Amazing interview! Thanks as always Rosey, Ryan, and Co.!
This man deserves more attention. One of the most important actors of the last 50 years, but doesn't get nearly enough praise
Oh my god, John is such a delight in this interview. By far one of my favorites, never expected he'd be as entertaining off-screen as he is on.
JRD is simply legendary....guys like this literally were born for it. What the hell else would he do? Work as a DMV instructor? "You......have....failed....the parallel parking portion of your exam."
I remember keenly seeing John in Shogun as a teenager. I thought then, there was something about this man that radiates joy. I have adored John since. Thank you for having him on, Michael. You made my morning!
having him in the Wing Commander games when i was younger made me love pretty much everything this wonderful man has been in.
Absolutely knew this chat with John would be a blast, but man, it was beyond brilliant! The guy's just a treasure - warm, hilarious, and totally in his element even at 80. He's the epitome of an actor's actor, still lighting up with the joy of performing. Gotta say, the turn into bashing the bishop caught me off guard - But hey, that's what made it all the more memorable. Top marks for this one, Rosey - truly a top-tier convo! Like you said, one of the best. It really, really was.
"Death is just another path, one that we all must take." I always look at this way, we cry and scream being born, and look so peaceful after we die.
From the chapter titles it doesn't look like you asked him about Sliders. If he comes back, can you talk to him about that?
That was actually what I remembered him from the most back then. Loved the first few seasons of that show, and the professor was my favorite character.
I came to the comment section just to mention that show. I'm pleasantly surprised and thrilled it's the top comment. The show wasn't the same without Maximilian Arturo.
@@vladpiranha his death was so cruel. Even when watching it, I could tell something had happened behind the scenes-- they gave him an incurable disease, had his brains sucked out from a Kromagg, shot several times point blank in the chest on a planet that was going into a black hole and going to explode.
Talk about overkill. They wanted it clear that Arturo was NEVER coming back. And the show jumped the shark when he left. The only decent episode after that was Slidecage, and even that wasn't nearly as good as it should have been.
I hope they'll bring him back and talk about what happened. As I understand it, JRD just was asking for better scripts (which was fair, the scripts were bad) and then they killed him off. I'd like to have known how it all went down from his point of view.
😅@@vladpiranha
@@Maazzzo I thought it had something to do with him wanting to do other work?
There's definitely a curse of marketing people controlling what's being made on large scales right now but at the same time we're also seeing original and/or interesting stories and ideas breaking through and getting huge accolades (plus making money) such as The Whale, Parasite, Poor Things, Everything Everywhere All At Once, and more of course.
I think it's a terrible shame that this trend of franchise chasing hasn't died off faster when there are clearly some awesome writers, directors and lesser known actors who could bring to life what could be an entirely new vibe to theaters and change up the modern movie watching experience.
Good episode. John Rhys-Davies and that voice always invoke such magnitude and charisma.
Loved John as Gimli & Treebeard and it was cool to see him on the Princess Diaries 2 as well.
I've rewatched Lotr extended editions every year for the last 20 years
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I've adored John Rhys-Davies since I saw him in I, Claudius. Hope you address his LOTR lounge chair! I've always wondered about the logistics of that contractual demand.
Must add: Went to check his IMDB and Wowza! Sexy headshot, John!
This was 100% the best interview I've seen that you've done. Describing him in one word would be "Passion".
That heartwarming laughter will never age.
Oh wow, Rosey (and company)! Killing it with the guests again! Absolutely awesome interview. Rhys-Davis is truly one of the great classically trained 'thespians', right up there with your Patrick Stewarts, Ian McKellens* and Anthony Hopkins.
McKellen
His natural Gimlie face and laugh is perfect !!
John is a legend. He was here for a con, and someone whispered, do you think you can toss the dwarf, I mean is wasn’t a loud comment you’d think anyone would have heard in that noisy room, and he’s at his table, and straight face shouts… no one tosses a dwarf! I’m told it was epic.
Michael, you are now in the big leagues. Welcome to being the new Larry King.
I got to meet him at megacon orlando earlier this year. I got to share how much his role lord of the rings has effect on me as a kid and I almost cried and he just gave me a big hug. What am amazing man.
When You have legends like John Rhys-Davies on, it's going to be the best interview.
An absolute legend! A proud son of Wales! He was born just up the road from where I was born in Ammanford, South Wales. A great man! Thoroughly enjoyed the interview!
If anything, his prediction under-sold how important the Lord of the Rings movies became. They shaped cinema and filmmaking for decades, and they still stand up in every way head and shoulders above most films since.
I've been having trouble sleeping so saved this podcast for a sleepless period....It was fascinating. A very likeable, intelligent, experienced old pro. He talks about Olivier being forgotten but his characters on Raiders and LOTR will last generations...At 65 and retiring this year his little segment on not fearing death was food for thought..
Well done for making your guests relaxed and comfortable with a wide variety of questions..
WOW. One of the BEST interviews - and guests - you've had! Watched this with my wife, who never watches/listens to podcasts, and we enjoyed every minute of John Rhys-Davies' talk.
Very engaging, slightly baudy and a thoroughly entertaining person! Many thanks for continuing to share these talks, and your guests' thoughts, with the rest of us!
Love this legends stories, especially of those he admires, or worked with. There is something about his journey that is so special, you just want to sit, and listen when he speaks to you
Michael, what an AMAZING interview! You as the interviewer were superb. John was an incredible interviewee. What a honest, powerful, and kind man. My wife LOVES him, and I must concur I do too. Thank you so much for this.
This is going to be a great episode. John has had such a legendary career. Looking forward to listening to this one. Best podcast ever!
I just finished listening to this episode and it was delightful. I felt like I was listening to a master storyteller. He definitely opened up and I enjoyed all of his behind the scenes stories. I was sorry to hear about the loss of his child. Best podcast ever!! A part 2 would be nice.
What an amazing episode. I wanted him to talk forever. I'm still smiling after this finished. I'm so excited about John Rhy-Davies building a studio. We need stories that compel us to go the theater again. I miss those.
"I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an elf." "What about side by side with a friend?" "Aye, I could do that."
Still gets me 20+ years later.
The only thing missing was more talk about Sliders, even though that's probably more of a niche fan base than any of his other work.
Wow...just wow. Such a great interview. He shared so many pearls of wisdom from a life that has already been well lived and looks to keep going.
I knew this be a great episode but it beyond exceeded my expectations. The voice, The charisma, The stories. There's a reason these old school actors are held on a different pedestal these days. Top 5 podcast episodes for sure. Just a treat.
Oh, my stars and moons😂 tis my birthday today, and this is by far my favorite treat! I had the pleasure of working a con with him for a weekend, the very best, delightful, rascal of a human being❤❤❤ he had me giggling ( almost gasping)for the entire time. Thanks Rosie!😘
Maybe one of the greatest interviews I have ever heard. Great, Michael. WOW
I just met him at a con a week ago. WONDERFUL experience!!! He is the kindest celebrity I've met. He initiated the conversation & was genuinely interested in my answers that I gave to his questions. It's an experience I'll always remember.
love this guy. I think my first exposures to him was sliders and the game wing commander 3 of all things. He brings such a classiness to the screen. Loved him ever since!
I had the pleasure of meeting John Rhys Davies. We talked for about 20 minutes about the future of human consciousness and Immortality. He was so kind and asked questions about me and my career as a photographer. They say never meet your hero's but he is most certainly the exception. His publicist had to end our conversation to get him back to work ha-ha. Such a great guy.
Bashing the Bishop 😂..I literally spit out my coffee and laughed so much! I love this guy!
This was absolutely amazing!! Listened to the interview earlier. Thank you Michael ❤ Going to watch the video now. Happy Tuesday 💙
Wow. That was an amazing interview. John was just a wellspring of energy and delight.
dude, I could see hanging out with John for weeks, just listening to stories. What a genuine and funny guy. Seems like a lovely human.
A lovely man. We looked after him many years ago when he attended the launch of Raiders of the Lost Ark on Blu-Ray in Sydney. A true gentleman who shook our hands and was grateful for the assistance.
The voice, the laugh, the legend, what an incredible delight to be able to talk with him.
Whenever I see John Rhys-Davies I always think of the Wing Commander games. i love him as james 'Paladin' Taggart...
Loved every moment of this interview. Phenomenal man and actor with the most fascinating stories. Thanks for being the best part of my day ❤️🙏.
JRD is a jewel. To be this far into life and be grateful. And feel lucky. Man. It's awesome.
I was a convention guest with John a year or so ago in Antwerp. He is just amazing. Thanks for having him here.
This is one of your best. Absolutely glued to every word John Rhys-Davies spoke.
John is a DELIGHT!! A true treasure!!
He's such an amazing individual. Truly a soul worth knowing and learning from.
Could listen to him stream-of-consciousness talk about anything all day.
What a great interview and what incredible answers from John. I had the pleasure of meeting him briefly. A group of friends and I were at the premiere of the Two Towers in NYC, standing outside. It was snowing and understandably the actors who were dropped off walked directly into the theater. John had a cane from an injury and still took time to come over to the line of us waiting and shake our hands. It was awesome.
Rosey, what an amazing conversation. Genuinely think this is the best podcast you’ve put out. Love what you’re doing. Keep doing it. X
John Rhys-Davies is great! Met him while waiting for a flight from Vegas to LA and we started talking. He told me a great story about the Indiana Jones ride opening at Disneyland and it was fantastic to hear! He asked about me and what I was doing (I was in college) and he wished me the best of luck. Some kids overheard us and they came over to get some autographs after we chatted and he signed everything. Even after the flight he wished me luck again with my career, he is a class act and I'm hoping I can cross paths with him again one day. 👍🏻
One of the best podcasts you’ve ever done. JRD is so full of charm and wisdom. And that voice is like a warm blanket.
One of my favorite interviews ever! He's exactly like I hoped he would be. Nice work.
I'm delighted that John is such a positively engaging bloke. I remember first seeing him in an episode of Robin of Sherwood where he played King Richard. A tricky blend of strength, charisma and ruthlessness he nailed perfectly.
My favorite LOTR character, so thanks for this and much love to this awesome podcast.
Excellent interview - I met JRD in Newcastle years ago. A true gentleman, totally honest and a right hoot.
Well, here we are about 25 years later. I just saw all 3 movies (extended edition) in the theater last weekend, and they are still every bit as remarkable as they ever were and are still masterpieces.
They are going to have to release another LOTR 4K blu-ray to add this discussion into the bonus materials.
That microphone isn't even switch on his voice is that powerful. Was lucky enough to sit in front of him on a flight in January. When he spoke the plane shook. Iconic!
Omg that was so good! Have always loved Mr JRD but not seen him talk much or be interviewed so well done for getting him. Absolutely hilarious moments in there and just a joy to watch.
I had the absolute pleasure of meeting him recently. Truly a delight to interact with. I will treasure that experience for the rest of my life.