More Bizarre Experiments Scientists Never Should Have Conducted
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Ah here you are Simon. I was over on biographics and you don’t do vids there anymore? Sad faaaace !!!
the mike Tyson mysteries had norm mcdonald play "pigeon" he loves pigeons lol
Maybe update the site from all those old channels that you're not associated with aka Geographics, Biographics, Top Tenz etc
look up "now kith" for Tyson meme
Simon expresses confusion about scientists using pigeons as test subjects.
B.F. Skinner: hold my 📦.
I think Simon learns about American culture from watching 80's & 90's TV shows. 😂
Considering his love of Fringe, at least early 2000s, too lol
I was just thinking the same thing lol
The rubber hand illusion is actually really useful for figuring out how body integrity works in the brain, and how we can help amputees, and those with Body Identity Integrity Disorder, as well as better understanding dysmorphic conditions.
It may also be useful when dealing with what may or may not be legal within a virtual reality. Perhaps this experiment could be useful in a future legal case where someone claims to have been tortured in VR.
(Idk anything about the VR world or the future of it, but the possibilities with a cruel enough mind are endless, I would assume)
I had some cool insights after paralyzing my left hand. It came back to about 65% function after 6 months, but was briefly entirely paralyzed. It's hard to explain. One thing I noticed is that I would subconsciously project everyone else as having a paralyzed left hand and my "conscious brain" had to remind me that it wasn't the case.
Evidently “phantom limb” syndrome can be overcome using a mirror and the remaining opposite limb to recalibrate the brain to the presence/absence of the missing appendage. Amazing how powerfully the subconscious can affect a fully lucid conscious experience. … Aaaand Simon brings that up too, around 8:16.
@@PBthesquirrel The Japanese anime Sword Art Online toys with these ideas. In fact, the second half of Season 1 deals with the idea of using high level VR to brainwash people. Thankfully, the VR tech used does not actually exist... yet.
@@kstricl that "yet" is doing some HEAVY lifting lol
I just went back and rewatched the first video about crazy experiments. Simon seemed pretty genuinely interested in knowing the results of that chicken study.
Oh, he definitely was. But that was months ago now so I'm surprised he even remembered that it happened
I remember it clearly, he was genuinely humorously annoyed that he hadn't been told about the fuckin' chickens lmao not an ounce of sarcasm in him, but I think mainly in a "don't bring it up and blue ball me like that, Kevin!" kind of way lmao
Kevin, you should introduce Simon to the sex lives of penguins. Roosters have nothing on penguins in the kink dept.
Makes sense. I know at least some species of penguin mate for life, so they gotta keep things interesting
Ducks are also insane and brutal when it comes to mating... to the point that female ducks evolved crazy vaginas that resemble mazes. Their vaginas have twists and turns along with dead ends. Male ducks have "corkscrew" penises. They also have the longest penis by body size of any animal. These male ducks gather in groups the force themselves on the females. In order to stop her eggs from being fertilized, females have these crazy vaginas.
Oh Kevin, you have no idea! Definitely have to introduce Simon to penguins intimate desires..😂😂😂
Is that why they dress up as nuns?
@@user-hf7jp2lt5x That's a niche kink, lol. They're more dressed like they lost their top hats.
Oh man. Simon saying “science is the genocide of mice” is something I will never forget
Mauswitchz
You commented this 3 weeks ago but I bet you already forgot about it... you're welcome for the reminder.
@@plumbereathan nope, been thinking about it since. But thanks for trying to remind me!
"I feel like when you Americans are sarcastic, you say 'not!' afterward." That would be true, Simon, if it were 1985 and all Americans were 14 years old.
I see it occasionally used while gaming, in the context of people wanting to be obvious that they're being sarcastic when typing, but /s does the same job so it's not used often
now wait, let's be fair. 'Not' was still a thing at least into the late 90s...which the world keeps reminding me was 25 years ago and I'm not pleased about it.
Like, seriously! No duh! Hearing that I was like, come on dude, like, gag me with a spoon!
Those of us who were 14 in 1995 said 'syke' instead, but it's close enough.
@@chitlitlah Both saw fairly interchangeable use through the early to mid-90s, before 'Not" faded out in favor of psych, which itself mostly died out by 2K.
From what I understand the actual t-rex roar would be more terrifying than the one from Jurassic park. You would barely be able to hear it but you would feel it in your bones from miles away. Their sense of smell would likely be so good they would have already smelled you by the time you felt the roar. On top of that their eyesight was likely far better than hours.
Science isn't always about rodent genocide. Sometimes it's about annoying chickens.
Or giving rodents drugs when they look at art apparently.
To be perfectly honest, I'm pretty sure I'd be less scared of a T-Rex than an equivalent size chicken. Those things are pretty scary at the size they are.
I love chickens and raise quite a few, even though I don't like eggs. One time my flock had gotten to over 30 chickens, and their behavior at that point freaked me out. I'd ride a golf cart over their property, and they would follow me, but if I stopped, they'd all "act casual". By that I mean, they would be so obviously trying to look otherwise occupied that it was like a bad spy movie. Start the buggy, and I'd hear them flapping along behind me, stop, and all of them seemed to have found a bug. It was just a bit funny until the last time I stopped and they were all frozen in a semicircle around the cart, just staring at me. Reminded me of those tiny dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, and I was 100% convinced that if I fainted then, I would have become dinner. Now I never keep more than 20 in any spot, they don't act so freaky then. I've had a few cats and 2 big dogs over the years that I've raised chickens, and all of them have at least kept a respectful distance from them, if not been obviously terrified of them, after just one casual introduction. My biggest, baddest, hunting cat, who would bring home jackrabbits big as him, showed too much interest one day and they surrounded him. After that, he wouldn't go near them unless it was beside me on the golf cart.
@@epowell4211 That's both hilarious and exactly as grim as I'd expect 😅
@@epowell4211This is an amazing story.
I could see a point to the rubber hand experiment. I have fibromyligia, a pain condition that there's no known cause for - one of the theories is that my brain is needlessly sending pain signals. So, an experiment showing pain signals despite there being no cause (using healthy volunteers), is a piece of a puzzle to explain chronic pain conditions (I'm guessing).
Thanks, Kevin. I work with lab mice all the time. You didn’t break Simon this time but your mouse story broke me.
You're welcome! My uncle used to work with lab mice as well.
Frankie Mouse 🐁 and Benjy Mouse 🐁 will be disappointed. . . 😮
@@davidripley2916 They're a lot less cute after they''ve bitten you a few times. And if you ever get to talk to Frankie or Benjy, ask them why mother mice sometimes eat their children. (No need to ask why two male mice in a cage with 1 female will fight to the death, that one's pretty obvious.)
Mike Tyson keeps pigeons as pets. He is very well versed in their care apparently and they are one of the soothing things in his life. Random as hell, I know. Also the "not" stopped after Wayne's World. I have not heard it in forever and Bostonians are exceedingly sarcastic! Nice to see you back in the editing chair Sam, we worry when any of you are missing for too long. The blazement is scary and deep these days.
His first fight was over a pigeon, and he once got a hotel room for his favorite pigeons he brought on a trip with him.
I guess one of his exes ate one of them? That's why she's an ex.
Are we bringing back the Not thing?
I mean, its a bit played out, but if the Whistle Meister demands it, it will be so.
TIFO Simon's understanding of American sarcasm is sourced from 90s B-movies. :P
😂😂😂 agreed
The insane thing on T-rex is it may have used infrasound. There is a video on youtube and it makes my hair stand up each time it activates that primal part of your brain. There was also a paper a couple years ago suggesting dinosaurs didnt roar like we see but is a hiss like a croc. Sadly we wont ever know, but as a dino nerd roaring doesnt bother me. Another side note, Rexy likely didny have feathers, at least as an adult. It would have overheated, but as a hatchling it was one of the cutest things ever.
We haven't use "not" since the 90s. Damn Simon, come on now. Lol
I think a carnivorous chicken as tall as a house sounds horrifying, way scarier than a lizard
You're not wrong! I saw what my chooks did to that toad. It was brutal..
"science is just the genocide of mice," Simon Whistler 2023
Dear Simon, the only Americans still using “Not” to indicate sarcasm are in middle school. The rest of us stopped doing that circa 2002 😅
I've never heard anyone end their sentence that way since the 90s. Lol
@@bluecarbon32 to be fair, I hadn’t either until my middle schooler came home doing it 😅
Or we never used it.
WE DID?! I did not get this memo.
Beat be to it
Wait a minute... How many samples of kaiju DNA did the scientists have on file to compare the Loch Ness DNA to?
The first one corroborates the smoke detector principle at least. In terms of survival, it tends to be better to overreact than to underreact.
Kevin makes that claim about the Trex being less terrifying if it’s a bird with all of the confidence of someone who has never been in a fight with a rooster
You have a website? Never knew that.
Not
Many 'pointless' experiments are done by students to learn how to conduct an experiment and write it up (ie. The second example you use is basically a maths problem with variables).
The purpose of the rubber hand experiment is to try and understand why things like mirror therapy works (when it was created, they didn't understand why it worked, just that it did), as well as trying to learn more about how our brains work.
16:55 yes. A 50 foot high chicken is still a 50 foot tall wild carnivore
The only thing I remember about morphine was waking up 12 pounds lighter and my appendix was supposed to be gone. I never seen it but it must be true.
Simon needs an American lingo update 🤣
I was a bit concerned about the lack of metal in this one, until I saw that it was edited by Sam rather than not-Sam. They really do have their own personal touches for sure!
2:19 feeling immense disappointment that Dragon Drop isn't a thing.
Thank you soooo much for clarifying sarcasm. No, really. I've always wondered how it works..
someone let Simon know that Americans using "not" to declare sarcasm are either 9 years old or stuck in the mid 90s. the rest of us are just dry sarcastically
To your editor when saying it’s sick about the rooster mating with the neck hole, popping up Danny Masterson was brilliant. I applaud your use of the serial rapist and Scientologist in good standing. Cheers.❤😂
"Hey honey, how was your day?"
"Fine, fine. I spent it gluing sink plungers to chickens."
"Sooooo... That PhD really working out for you, huh?"
The way they trained and tested the pigeon is also the way they do it with some AI models. E.g. when training CNNs to classify cats and dogs they train the model on already pre-classified images. Depending on what the model outputs on an input image (pigeon choosing the good image), the models weights are adjusted (giving the pigeon food when they choose the correct image). After the training is finished, the model receives new images that it has never seen before. Then depending on the results, the training parameters might be adjusted (not happening with the pigeons).
The rubber hand experiment helped people making prosthetics understand that they can connect the prosthetic to the brain by making the brain acknowledge the inanimate object as a part of the body.
We have smaller MRI machines now
Simon: says "kaiju" DNA very emphatically
Also Simon: has zero idea of what kaiju means
LOL Americans haven't used the not suffix since the 80s
Truth
Wayne's World didn't come out until 1992 popularizing the use of "not".
Since the 80s? I used it last week.....not! Got em! But I agree with the Wayne's World comment. That's when it blew up and was everywhere.
@@Alloy211 still been thirty years since it's really been used
@@Alloy211 also the original Saturday night live skit came out in the 80s and that's where it originally got popularized even if it was at the end
Mike Tyson actually raised pigeons since childhood. He has a great love for them. He even has a talking degenerate pigeon sidekick in his adult animated series
There is just something so magic
About Simon, Sam, and Kevin
Even when life seems tragic
I'll briefly feel like I'm in heaven
I want to thank you three
For all the work you do
I know you don't know me
But I love all of you
Random parent: "my kid is a fantastic artist!"
Simon"bring in the pigeon! "
What if the plastic coating is just the protective film after all this time
The children section sounds like something you'd see on the "He Did the Math" subreddit. Kevin, you're on fire today! Denver the Last Dinosaur, what a throw back! And you mentioned my name ❤ Sam, always love your work. Simon, your children will never recover from your harsh words. Now if you'll excuse, I have an idea for an art critic channel hosted by a pigeon. Can't be more pretentious than modern art critics...
Simon no one in the US has said "not" at the end of a sarcastic statement since the 90s lmao
Roosters are so stupid. I have chickens, and a young rooster this year has been caught trying to mate with the food bin and my wrist.
I don't know if you guys have covered it yet but the pigeon experiment reminded me of the rough draft for America's first guided missle
Rewarding me with morphine and coke is also how you get me to like Picasso
Did Simon just watch Borat and think that's how things are in America. 😂
Yeah i dont think psychologists arent allowed gaslight, they told them because the patient consiously knowing it's just a rubber hand makes the results more significant
At least not since the Milgram experiment...
Simon can't complain about Danny's intros with ad lengths like these lbh
Sometimes, a scientist is exposed to something, a question pops into their head, and they obsess over the possible answer. So, they simply must find the answer or else risk dying unfulfilled.
Yeah, if you can get a research grant on a subject that amuses you, why not? On the other hand, if you're rich enough to make a grant and really want a question answered, you can probably find someone to create an experiment.
They 100% should make an art tournament where pigeons decide once and for all what the greatest piece of art ever made is.
I would watch the shit out of that.
So glad to have you back Sam. Your flow when you edit really hits that serotonin spot in my brain.
So, I was compelled to learn about Mike Tyson and pigeons. One experience he had with pigeons, is one where a bully pulled the head off of Mike’s pigeon. He states this was the first time he threw a punch. In addition, when he was asked if he would pay $2 million for a pigeon, he said he was not sure, but if he did, it would be worth it.
Damn. Less than a minute after posting and I’m still not the first view. Keep up the great videos fact boi!!
If putting a plunger on a chickens ass is the closest I am going to get to seeing a T Rex… then I make no apology for being a part of that audience 😂
The whole 'pigeons identifying pictures' thing does have practical usage, as they have been trained to identify cancerous tissue in mammograms. The research is summarised in one of the early chapters of 'Hello World' by Hannah Fry.
I'm confused as to why we need to introduce a pigeon to the equation. Wouldn't the doctor just look at the mammogram results and see the cancer? Or am I missing something?
I'm having so much fun watching old episodes and playlists of this channel, even tho I'm an OG BB Legend, I think I started watching since the 5-th episode.
Lol Simon the "not" thing ended several decades ago
Do any other Americans want to let Simon know that not a single American has said the word "not" after being sarcastic since the 90's, except for 90 year old people in the Midwest as featured in "Borat"
I bet the mice wasn't the only ones getting high in that lab 😂
"My fridge isn't magnetic"
You can use bluetak or tape, your kids will remember this.
My mum would never put our pics or A+ assignments on the fridge - see I remember!
My parents didn't do this either. Just saying they were proud was enough.
My family put family photos on it instead.
The pigeon one isn't surprising given pigeon guided bombs were a thing.
That is accurate, though they never made it past R&D. But those had an obvious purpose, which is that they were bombs. A pigeon grading children's art homework is pretty weird
Love Simon & his crew.❤
Love you too!
Simon sounds like Stewart from family guy right after he laughs sometimes and it's hilarious 😂
1:22 Yeah, I don’t think anyone has used the whole “not” thing since 1995.
My brand of humor is along the lines of Fleabag.
The rubber hand illusion actually has legitimate uses in treating things like phantom limb issues
Almost spat my food out at the "booook booook boooook" 😂😂😂
Brilliant, you guys! Thanks again!
This, out of the apparently thousands of channels Simon seems to run at the moment, must be one of my favourite episodes! I’m not sure if it’s due to hiis very frank admission about dissing his offspring’s artwork (something every parent most definitely can relate to) or if it’s the generally pointless facts about avian creatures but it doesn’t really matter. This is funny as hell!!
The AVIAN dinosaurs are the ancestors of birds, although there were non-avian theropods. That research was not as frivolous as it looked, but it was 100% completely hilarious.
Simon never heard of Denver the Last Dinosaur. Mean while I can remember my kid sisters having a fit about having to do home work at the same time that cartoon would have been airing.
I mean the rubber hand illusion is at lest a very good demonstration on how adaptable our brain is. Instead of just outright disregarding it, the brain is like: "Oh, ok, I got this new rubbery thing now, let's try to make some use of it!".
I could be wrong on this but I think the rubber hand experiment can be used to treat phantom pain on amputees.
I worked in a lab that performed animal studies.
In one such bit of work, rats were having their pain tolerance tested with nitrous oxide as anesthetic.
2 rats in the study, 12 5-liter nitrous oxide cylinders were used.
In an unrelated news story, several college students over-dosed with nitrous oxide during a Fraternity party.
I love research!
Basically what he is getting at is in the UK we are taught that americans dont understand sarcasm and require a indication that you are using it. Whereas in england we can have an entire conversation where both parties are being sarcastic, but they understand eachother completely.
23 minutes of joy❤😂
As for the Rubber Hand Illusion, it was believed that if a person did not have a reaction then the person was a psychopath.
Simon doesn't know about Mike Tyson and pigeons? I bet he doesn't even know how to use the 3 seashells either!
Love your content Simon. You are Awesome! :)
I'm hanging off a cliff about that chicken study and Simon goes and switches to an ad for Squarespace. I need to know about the chickens!!
Idk about you but the fact that birds are modern day dinosaurs is cool af to me. Adding feathers to a trex doesnt make it less frightening
“Even any untrained mouse would know the difference.” 😂🤣😂
I love that mice know differences between artwork but just don’t give a shit 😂
Simon, chickens never forgot they were dinosaurs. They will field strip a mouse to bones in seconds if they notice it in their enclosure. They have anti cannibalism sprays for chickens because they love eating each other so much it's a problem.
A huge t Rex chicken would absolutely eat you. I still tuck pants inside boots out of habit because of the childhood lessons those guys installed 😅
If you made all farm animals t Rex size the chicken is the second biggest threat, pigs being the biggest.
Is there a phrase that say "Whatever you think of, we did that and regret it."
"Isn't Gaslighting something they test?"
Yes. And we call those testers Politicians and Narcissists.
There was a Dr. House episode using mirror box therapy.
Brain blaze is Simons final form.
Mike Tyson Pigeon joke. Mike Tyson voiced a parody of himself in the animated show "Mike Tysons Mysteries" which was sort of a spoof on the Scooby Doo format. One of the main characters was a talking pigeon.
little does simon knows, the US military once considered using pigeons for a guidance systems
Had the rubber hand thing happen while playing Elite Dangerous using a HOTAS & VR.
Was all confused when I went for a scratch and "my" hand didn't lift off the flight stick
"Stop the pigeon"?
That's a a callback to a Boomer era cartoon.
Well done!
I really Love this side of Simon. :)
I was JUST about to go on and on in this comment about mirror box therapy and phantom limb.... but it got covered already. BIG BRAINS!
This was brilliant!
i must say..you do what you do very good..and i thank you for what you do..among all of what you do..thank you sir
4:46
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I don't know what to believe anymore
"What's Mike Tyson got to do with pigeons?" He's a major pigeon fancier. It's that simple.