Mannlicher and Savage In WHAT Cartridges?
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- Have a look at one of the best made rifles you can find - Steyr Mannlicher Model S. I also have a Savage Model 340V to show you which is excellent yet simple, and affordable to own. Just wait until you see what calibers these two rifles are in! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
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I really appreciate your promotion of open sights, adequate for most hunting situations. A friend of mine recently dropped his rifle on a rock and the scope was shattered. Because he was not equipped with a rear sight his hunting trip was ruined, so it actually happens.
That right there was one of the big reasons why I chose the Ruger M77RS (the "S" stands for Sights) back in 1989.
I also think that rifles without sights look incomplete, and (of course) the main reason so few manufacturers these days have even one of their centerfire rifles available with them is to save money.
Hello Rupert and PinkOld - Thanks for both of your posts. I find that iron sights are all one needs most of the time; but in poor light and/or visibility the scopes are better and safer. IMHO
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns True, especially if you have good eyes.
I used to shoot starlings and House sparrows out of 60-foot high treetops with my Crosman pump pellet gun using only the iron sights and no glasses, but (sadly) age and its oftentimes traveling companion astigmatism, have made scopes nearly essential for anything beyond 25 yards.
Where are you from? Texas here
@@Dwyer88 South Africa.
I have a Mannlicher Schoenauer Model 1903 in 6.5x54MS. Now that is a neat rifle.
Those Mannlichers are said to be some of finest production rifles out there.
It's good that you have lately moved many of your videos outdoors to show how your incredible gun collection performs on targets.
Thanks for the video! I had a beautiful model 1952 Steyr-Mannlicher in .270 Winchester, buttery-smooth and shot well. The .225 Winchester has been my go-to for high velocity .22 for over 20 years. I had a model 1908 Brazilian Mauser sporter in that calibre, now I have a barrel for my T/C Encore in the same. It might be unusual but it suits me and my interest in oddball cartridges quite well!
I LOVE Steyr. I can't buy enough of them. Steyr does not get enough credit for their quality in North America from most people but that's ok for me because I can buy them cheaper.
I got one in 3006. Looking for another one with a 22" barrel.
Always loved the aesthetics for those Steyr rifles!!
Fan of the .300 H&H myself, favoring it over the other .300 Magnums. My first center fire rifle was a Savage 340 .222. Had a couple in .30-30 ,gave to my father in law and great nephew. I once owned a .225 Model 70 but never fired the rifle best I remember and traded it. Interesting cartridge.
I have the 340 Savage in .222 Rem and I have the Stevens 325B in 30-30 Win., both excellent shooters.
The 225 Winchester is very similar to a much earlier wildcat from the mid 1930s, the 219 Improved Zipper.
I have a Savage 840 which is just like the 340 in 222 rem. One of my grandfathers friends had a 225 Win (not sure of brand) and he said it was one of the most accurate guns he ever owned.
Sweet channel.....Great reviews and comments....Huge thumbs up as always....Thanks
Thank you Big Red!
Always great gun information. Great channel.
Glad to see some content on these types of rifles
I have one in 30-30 I bought for my ex girl friend who wanted to start deer hunting. Things didn't work out but I ended up with a cool old gun that I got for cheap.
It's such a nice handy rifle to pack around, and fairly accurate for what it is
Beautiful rifle sir! Loads of power. Tks for showing us. 👏👏
Outstanding video! Very interesting pair of rifles 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing 🍻
This is why this is my favorite gun channel! Most young gun bloggers wouldn’t even glance at a 340 Savage.
I bought my first one (.222, 340D) new in about 1968.
In 2000, I found a very nice 340 E in .22 Hornet. I had it reamed to .22 Kilburn Hornet, and it is a blast to load for!
I also have a CZ 527 Lux in .22 Hornet and a 550 FS in 6.5x55.
One other rifle of note, is a Styer SL in .222 Rem Mag., (thank God for .204 Ruger Brass). I just neck it up to .224 in my .222 Rem Mag full length sizing die.
I love the older/classically styled rifles, and I appreciate your channel very much! Thanks!
Good to see, you actually firing the rifle
Thank you for the video ,
like the wood stock and Blued finish on these rifles
Thanks Mark , another Great video . Catch You next time . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .
Thanks for the sharing brother 👍, really like that rifle, WOW.see you on the next one.🙏❤️
Fine content as expected Mike!
Thank you William!
Thanks for another great video 😊👍
Thank you William!
Thank you for bringing us a video on some interesting rifles I had a chance at one of those old 340s long time ago but I was under the misconception that it wasn’t that good of a rifle and I have kicked myself ever since I wish I would’ve bought it it was in a really good price.
I'd love to find one in good shape. People who have them just don't let them go.
Thanks for the video. Your are right about the 225, it is an excellent cartridge. The rim makes it suitable for lever and single shots. I barreled my brother's shot out Savage 99 in 22 HP to 219 Zipper in the seventies. I tried to talk to talk him into a 225 but he was old school and wanted the Zipper.
I recently added a Steyr Mod M in .30 of 1906 to my collection from a private collection out of a deceased collectors estate, after watching this video. I don't believe it's ever been fired and the action is incredibly smooth. I'm in love with the stock, spiral barrel forging, the bolt handle, the double set trigger, and the rotary magazine. The fit and finish is so nice! It's aged well for being from, I believe, the 60s. Excited to clean and be the caretaker of it for many decades to come. I would be curious if modern ammunition is safe to use in it.
Thanks for the fine videos Mike. Fun to see the differences in the two rifles but both are very functional.
One of my two favorite channels. Yous and gunblue490.keep up the great work
Thank you Dino!
This rifle also has really beautiful wood a couple of times when you tilted it just right in the sun I was like wow that is beautiful. I really enjoyed this being outdoors and actually shooting I always enjoy your indoor videos too but I think you should do more of these outdoor videos. The 300 H&H Magnum is a great cartridge and I think if I had one I would want it in a good size heavy rifle like that one. I think that rifle has the weight to go with the cartridge I wouldn't want to put it in a lightweight rifle. Thank you Mike as always great video 👍
Hey glad to see ya i thought you had stopped making videos as most of what i saw was around one year ago, its nice to listen to you guys who have knowledge of firearms.
Thanks John! I'm still here : )
I appreciate you honest evaluation of both rifles, the Savage with its simplistic construction for real life use in the field, a real game getter in many calibers, I had a 340 in 30-30 and was my cast bullet gun. the Syeyr, I owned two PS-1 Marksman police rifles chambered in .308, one with a single trigger and one with double set triggers, both were 1-12 twist rates (Witch I didn't care for) But they were accurate rifles with bullet weights below 170 gr. I had problems with both, the plastic trigger guard and one of the magazines that came with one of the rifles, the plastic replacement parts were staggering in cost to replace. I agree with you 100% on the .300 H&H, it is my favorite of all the belted Magnums, it's is not the fastest, however it is the most accurate and efficient of all of them and has enough power (in my opinion)) for any game, anywhere. I really enjoyed your Video, it reminded me of 314299's channel. Peace dude - Dave
Sir,
I love your videos, I love me some modern gun channels, but I like the classics you review. Everyone likes a good wood and iron hunting rifle. Very classic/heritage
I find the quality of the steyr mannlicher rifles quite enjoyable.
Thanks for your videos.
Built like a tank and very accurate. The snail mags are a neat feature.
Yes, very nice, and it's walnut!
Thanks! Great video!
I grew up on a ranch in west Texas. One of our ranch trucks had a Savage Model 340 .22 Hornet rifle. I think that model was an outstanding hunting/utility rifle. Very accurate and reliable, easy to load and unload (one of the reasons it was a truck gun). It killed a lot of coyotes and jackrabbits and I used it to kill a deer once. (I don't recommend the .22 Hornet for deer)
I think the two best "low cost" American hunting rifles were the Savage 340 and the Remington 788.
The 300 H&H was one slick feeding cartridge and in that Steyr it would be a joy.
Nice video quality!
Glad you noticed luke
USOG ; One of my brothers-in-law had a Savage 340 in .30/30 when he started deer hunting in Northern California. He took his share of bucks.
On a side note, last week I picked up a J.C. Higgins model 20 12 guage in very good condition for $265 American $$$ out the door. That included the tax too.
I've heard bad reports about the choke tube eating up the wads. IDK. I do know my father used to hunt with his with no problems. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Excellent episode. Thanks for sharing with us.
Stan in Idaho
Hi Stan - That's a steal - the Higgins is about as good as it gets; I never had any wad issues - maybe I was lucky. Great buy no matter what. That 340 is a sleeper - simply excellent rifle - but you know that. Thanks for the note and all the best.
You have a great show 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏
Thank you Sam!
Nice rifles I have a model M styer in 30-06 absolutely love it
Mike takes the recoil with grace
Hey it's me again Mike, Another great video. Two different rifles at definitely different price points if not opposite ends of the scale. I passed up a 340 in 225 several years ago. Now I'm having non-buyers remorse. I keep watching for 330, 340 etc even in 30-30 to play with but they've really high in price at least for me. The Mannlichers will probably always be out of my price range but that is a beautiful rifle. I do have a 1951 Remington Model 721 BDL DELUXE 300 H&H MAGNUM with its original K-4 Weaver scope. The one with fine cross hairs and center dot. I can load it down to what I call hot 30-06 150 grain velocities for local Whitetails.
Hi Dave - You're right about those Savage rifles - they keep going up in value and the .225 is very scarce. Your 721 is even more scarce and in the deluxe model just about unobtanium - good on you for finding it. Great rifle and great cal.
That is a fine rifle for sure.
I haven’t seen one of those models for a few years now but they are fine quality firearm , I really like the one I got to shoot !
I have 2 Mannlichers 6.5x54. And 6.5x55 They were Greek military rifles and my dad had Flaig's gun shop put brand new barrels in them. And then he did the rest of the customization. They shoot great and drop deer dead on the spot. They have a unique rotary magazine and the bolt will close on its own if you point it downward. Teddy Roosevelt loved the caliber and supposedly dropped many elephants with his gun.
I sure do like watching and learning about all types of firearms you highlight on your channel. If ever, though very doubtful, I was ever to find myself in a strong financial position I'd love to become a gun collector...not just the owner of a few hunting rifles and a couple handguns.
Thanks for being on the channel and taking the time to write. Much appreciated. You'll have plenty of funds soon.
I had a 340 D in .222 Rem, and a 34O E in .22 Hornet, which I had reamed to .22 Kilburn Hornet (fun, fun, fun reloading)!
You’re right, they were not what I’d call beautiful, but both of mine were accurate, easy to handle guns.
Thanks for respecting these modest rifles that were very easy for us kids to buy back in the 60s and 70s!
Still great rifles! I'll have to look up the .22 KH - I had no idea : )
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The Hornet used a cartridge case which was basically a miniaturized .300 H&H.
If you go to the gun forum, you can see pictures side by side of the Hornet and K-Hornet
The powder capacity is obviously greatly increased.
I chronographed my .22K loads w/ 45 gr bullets against .222 Rem loads with 50-55 bullets. They were nearly equal in velocity at the muzzle.
.22 K brass can be fire formed, and my expert gunsmith chambered my 340D and CZ 527 FS to exactly the same dimensions, and the brass was perfectly interchangeable between the two chambers!
Thanks for your wonderful videos. Wish we could go shooting together.
300 H&H now I need to start looking for one.
I was certainly surprised to see the 225 represented in the video. I've got one, a 670 Winchester originally my dad's from Christmas '68 or so. Luckily I've got reloading components and several boxes of ammo still.
Hi Bruce - You've go the rifle that many want; so rarely found for sale or even heard of! Good on you. They sell in a heartbeat.
I had scoped a few of My Hunting Rifles and still enjoy them but there is something about the open sights that to Me is appealing especially after shooting CMP matches with military Rifles . I like the old military stuff like Garands, the Enfields , etc even the Austrian and Swiss straight pulls. I like the old lever action’s in their various calibers , 25-35 , 30-30 , 32 special etc. Bought a post WW1 Mauser in 30-06 with a peep sight, wedge and escutcheon barrel to stock attachment that is a 100 yard tack driver. It seems that Hunters are not the stalkers they used to Be. Game animals have become a form of unarmed non retaliatory military adversary that serve as a form of vicariously living out sniper fantasies. Used to be that a hunter worried about guys who used their scopes instead of Binoculars . Now “ Big Brother” can watch You with trail cams taking a dump and put lethal cross hairs on You from a mile or more away. Even the Muzzle loaders are space age. I enjoy shooting traditional blackpowder rifles and pistols too and always will. When they come out with ray and laser guns i will want one of those to just to maintain parity with any forces of potential aggression against Constitutional liberties that are under potentially corrupt executive authority. The same is true of Archery. The modern stuff is fun but I started out with it and went primitive traditional.
I do like bolt action rifles too. You know Mike, I bought an excellent looking model 325 Savage in 30/30 about 3 years ago, and still haven't taken it out for a shooting session. Heck I can't even remember if the rifle is a 325A or a B model. So this enjoyable video has made me make a note to take my 325, some ammunition, and go to the Range, now as soon as the weather permits,
I'll do just that.
Thanks for the nudge' to get out shooting again.
Thanks Reg - Your Savage is fantastic and so "shootable" in that classic cartridge. People overlook that the 6.5 Creedmoor and all the others are interesting but the 30-30 has done it all and continues to put venison in the freezer - for generations. Simply superb rifle and cartridge combination you have. Good shooting!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank YOU!
Beautiful rifle. We need to get away from the speed demon rounds. Too much meat loss due to high velocity rounds in my opinion. 7mm08 does everything for me for every beast in Canada. Of course, shot placement is the most important.
The 22.250 is actually in wildcat form much older than the .225 Winchester. The .225 came out in 1964 and Remington made the .22-250 a factory cartridge in 1965. The .225 Win was basically a .219 zipper improved with the rim slightly smaller. The 219 zipper was itself nothing more than a necked down 25-35 Winchester, another old round not much used today.
My Sauer and Sohn drilling is chambered for 12-gauge with 2 1/2" chambers and 8x58r Sauer (NOT 8x58r Danish). I really need to get into reloading, with shipping and handling a box of ammo runs me around $100.
I adore my Ruger #1 in 300 H&H. It’s more of a push than a kick for sure. I figure it’s due to the long tapered case with shallow shoulder. Great all-around cartridge.
You're the only one I know who owns one - bravo! And you're right - the .300 H&H is different from the other .300 Mags. - and others. The British knew what they were doing. Good health and good hunting!
300. Holland. And. Holland. Was. Never. Broken. So. No. Need. To fix. It. Not that anybody. Suggested. So. A real beauty. Enjoyed you r. Video Great. Make of rifle as. Well
Thank you! Glad you keep watching : )
My model L is a full stock .243 with the double sets. It has an unusually beautiful oil finished stock with a black like lightning bolt from butt to forend, and fiddleback all the way as well. I bought it new in 1980 and put Conetrol projectionless mounts and a Leupold M8 6X with CPC crosshairs on it. I am very careful with it and even after many seasons of hunting, it still looks like new. I also have a new spare magazine. It took a nice 14 point buck in 1984.
Hi David - You bought a perfect rig - but you know that. They are scarce in .243 as things go. Fine scope as well. Hope you made it out hunting this year - those rifles like to hunt : )
Love gun Mike.
Thanks for another enjoyable video. I’m looking for something with double triggers and a full length stock.
Hi Charles - Steyr turns out beautiful full length stocks - might have to be an older model though - I'm not sure if they currently offer double set triggers.
Thank you Mike. I passed on a butchered one a few years ago because I didn’t recognize the caliber and the seller wasn’t sure what the caliber was. The 340 savages were great utility rifles.
Double feature? Nice!
Mike, the 300 H&H is a great round and more recoil-friendly than most other 300 magnums. Too bad the M70 is no longer available in the Super-30!
Take care and have a great weekend!
Thanks Paul - maybe someone will start chambering the 300 H&H again - still a fabulous performer.
Yep
I wanted a 340 in 30-30 so I could load lighter pointed bullets, when I finally found one, the Hornady FTX factory load shot better than my hand load...oh well.
You really do the best rifle videos and I'm a big fan of the .300 H&H.
I owned a Savage 340 in .30 WCF many years ago and regrettably I sold it. It was a very nice little bush rifle and of course magazine fed so you could load spitzer type bullets.
That Steyr Mannlicher looks quite heavy, what does it weigh ?
The ability of the 340 to handle .30-30 Winchester (aka .30 WCF) loaded with spitzer bullets was a major reason why Hornady finally developed their LeveRolution bullets that have spitzer points constructed of a soft plastic to at long last allow the tens of millions of owners of tubular magazine lever guns to load spitzers in their rifles and enjoy the full advantages of the much more aerodynamic bullets.
In the case of the .30-30 cartridge-chambered rifles alone, essentially stretching the distance for reasonably hunting deer another 100 yards or so.
I personally assembled cartridges for my .45 Colt Marlin lever action rifle with the 225 grain .452 diameter LeveRolution bullet to nicely take three deer.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns What are you using for powder ? I tend to go with IMR 4227 in the big revolver cases.
@@smithwesson7765 I've been told that 4227 is great stuff for heavy loads, but for my stoutest loads, it's mighty hard to beat H110.
I believe that you need magnum primers to get proper ignition of 4227, and those are definitely needed for H110 because it's a spherical propellant harder to ignite, as most slower powders are.
I'm launching those 225 grain FTX (LeveRolution) bullets out at nearly 1880 fps, getting 1766 foot pounds out of that Marlin's 20-inch barrel.
I really ought to check and see what those same loads will do out of my 7 1/2" Ruger Blackhawk.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns You're definitely right about using the magnum primers as normal primers result in a lot of unburnt powder. I tend to load a 240 grain lead semi-wadcutter in my revolvers, all my lever guns are in .44 WCF with a 200 grain lead flat nose.
I think the biggest drawback of the Savage 340/Springfield 840 is that side saddle mount for the scope. It seems like it was a matter of luck if the scope ended up centered over the barrel. The arrangement made for inaccurate zero at longer ranges. Of course the open sights had no such issue and the .30-30 is at no huge disadvantage either way as shots over 200 yards on big game are better left to other combinations. Thanks for sharing as always!
My father was a fan of the 30/30 for young deer hunters but wasn't a fan of the Marlin or Winchester lever actions that needed young cold fingers to drop the cocked rifles to half cock, Long before they came with safeties. He bought a Savage model 340 that was passed down to each new hunter. I'm not sure which young nephew has it now. I saved my money and bought a model 700 in 30-06 as the first deer rifle I owned myself and never looked back but I'm thinking of running it down maybe for one more hunt. I'm in my late sixties and not in the best health so would like to before I can no longer hunt.
@@johnkendall6962 I feel your pain brother. Keep on fighting the good fight! Thanks for sharing.
I have one in a 7 mm mag it shoots like a champ like all Steyr I haven’t seen a Steyr that didn’t shoot well. That H&H is for cape buffaloes 🐃 little to big for whitetail deer here n Ky.
There is a shop I like in Ironton Missouri that has a lot of used Ozarks "meat guns". The type that were cheap to buy, worked every time, and were used mostly to put meat on the table or dispatch predators. The Savage 340 is in abundance in their racks.
Could you please tell me the name of the store?
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Norma's. I have not been through there in a while, so I hope it is still there. It is not the place where you would find anything engraved and gold inlaid, just "working man guns".
@@johnkinsel5027 Thank you. Looking specifically for a Model 340 in .30-30. Hope they will ship to my lgs.
My local hunting shop (locally owned here in Kentucky) only does new rifles and very expensive shotguns now... I'm jealous.
Hope you find another place - the classic guns are amazing - 50 years for a cared for gun is just completing break in IMHO All the best.
Wonder If The 225 Winchester Could Be Chambered For a Model 94 Lever Action That Would Be A Cool Combo 😊😀 Thanks USOG for Sharing Your Rifles There Amazing
Hi Chris - Thank you - and yes - I knew a fellow with a .225 Model 94 - and you're right - it was excellent.
A guy I know that has a new 250 savage barrel and action minus the stock and has a box of bullets too, no stock kills the deal for me. I want to get the spanish carbine mauser 7*57 for a brush rifle.
Beautiful rifle!!
I have a 243 full length stock 340b with butter bolt its a favorite rifle Someday someone else to love her too No sons so they will be Sold
Big fan of the 300 H&H. IN a M70 you get to put four rounds in the mag instead of the three for the 300 Win mag version. This is because of the sloping shoulder of the case that also facilitates feeding. A Winchester M70 will feed 300 H&H empty casings without issue. Try that with any Centerfire Magnum. In the case of the M70 Bull gun with the 28" tube 3,000+ can be had with a max charge of H4831 and a 200Gr Sierra match king. Nothing to laugh at. This rifle and cartridge was King of the 1,000-yard match game for over 40 years. Factory Match ammo was loaded for it by several manufactures. It still moves more bullet weight per grain of powder than any of the newer 300 Magnums out of a 26" tube, with less pressure and longer barrel life to boot.
The longer bolt travel never saved any deer or elk it's life either LMAO!
Also reffered to as a " super 30 "
Weird thing is I just commented on another video about my love for my Steyr rifles. It was around the same time I was re visiting your Husqvarna videos.
I currently have 3 Steyr's in my collection and they are up there when it comes to the pride of my collection. I have a Blaser lux grade which is in that part of my collection if that gives you any idea of what I think about the early Steyr's I have.
I have looked at some modern Steyr's like their R8 series but I dont know why I prefer the old ones I have more?
I am still looking for a Merkel Drillings to fulfill that part of my collection.
I would absolutely love to have a Steyr in .300 H&H. Nice find there.
Hello PR - I know what you mean - as technically brilliant as the R93 and R8 are - the older models have the quality and character advantage. I hope you find a Steyr in .300 H&H - one of those magic combinations of rifle and cartridge IMHO. Thanks for the note. All the best and good shooting and hunting - for guns : )
Never. Heard. Of it before.
Dang it, Mike!... 🤤🤤🤤👍
I have no experience with the SM model "S" rifles, but the Savage rifles are often inexpensive, functional & very accurate
I've always wondered why these had Manlicher's name attached to them. If they were a descendant of a Manlicher design, it'd be a straight pull, no? Unless there's descendants of Mr Manlicher who also went on to design guns in conjunction with Steyr that I'm unaware of.
I bought a steyr mannlicher full stock in 22-250 and think very highly of it. beautiful and very accurate, but- after a shot the bolt is very, very difficult to open. rear locking lugs. i've taken it apart and cleaned and cleaned, but can't find anything amiss. Any ideas?
Don´t mix up the Steyr Mannlicher and the Mannlicher Schönauer rifles. Although both rifles were built in the Steyr factory, the Mannlicher came first ~ 1903, the Steyr Mannlicher came later~ 1969. I own both systems and i love both.
Good advice - I love both systems and should make a video - I only have a few of each - but such gems! Thank you for the note!
I have seen what a .300 H and H can do. Pre 64 and quite accurate
Hi Wallace - scarce and special rifle.
You have a way of pulling out such great riffles, very nice to see! But one day you'll have to make a video where you pull out a complete piece of sh*t, just to change things up 😆
Keep up the great work👍
Question for you Sir. Do you know who produces the new remington 700s since remington went under?
Hi William - I Googled the question and it seems Vista Outdoors; but the Google answers are many and varied - from JPMorgan to an Ontario investor. I hope they get some good gun people on their board of directors. Sorry I don't have a more clear answer.
WHERE do you find such great guns??????????? classic great
Я так понял из этого видео, что эта винтовка автоматически ставится на предохранитель после каждого выстрела. Можно ли отключить автоматический предохранитель? Спасибо за вашу прекрасную коллекцию. С уважениеи!
I think rcbs has dies,for a 30-30 that convert to 225 works great
Love your videos but it is a .300 Norma mag not a .30 Norma mag. Please keep the videos coming, god bless
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Was the .225 Win ever used in European combination guns?
Not that I am aware of, at least not in production guns
My neighbour has a Savage 340 in .222
One of the most accurate .222s ever - and it doesn't look like it - or cost like it - it just is.
I shoot 300 win mag its more punchy thsn HH, the HH is betwee. 3006 and 300 win mag power
I had a Savage in .358. Is that kind of an oddball?
Hi Bruce, You have one of the most sought after 99s ever. In my circles the 99 in .358 is the #1 in demand collector Savage 99. The 358 is one of the best cartridges and the 99 - one of the best rifles - certainly in a class of its own. Hope this note helps. Cheers!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for responding. The key word is "had". Oh well, you can't keep them all!
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Thanks Keith
I regard the Savage 340 as So Ugly It's Beautiful. I recently ran across a Sears, Roebuck branded one that managed to be even uglier.
🤣I agree. They're stunning!
How much do those rifles go for ?
1100 to 1500 depending...
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns oh that’s not bad
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns have you ever seen a weatherby Mauser ?
No opening music? :'(
Hi Paul - Sorry about that. I keep it simple.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Hello,
I enjoy you videos and the variety in your collections.
Just a note: Your Weatherby “African” as you called it, is actually the Weatherby Safari Grade. And, it appears to be one that I made while employed at Weatherby’s in the Southgate, CA plant.
If your serial no. Is between H158000 and about H208000, I probably did all the metal work, customizing sand sight work on your rifle.
I worked there from March 1983 until November 1996 as Mark V custom rifle room lead, quality control inspector, and in R and D. I also scoped the rifle pictured on the Weatherby Book is showed on that particular video. Brings back good memories! Thanks!
Scott Madsen
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Sure gets down range fast
Steyer rifles are excellent rifles, problem are the makrolon made magazines. If often in use over the years material fatigue leads to defects of the magazine's. So far so good or better so far so bad because the production of these magazines was discontinued umpteen years ago. If you buy such a rifle, you should be aware that in case of a broken magazine, the rifle is pretty much worthless. Especially in rare calibers - but not only in this group - there are almost no magazines left. If, then one must buy for very overpriced, used magazines. What the constructors at Steyr were thinking when they decided to use plastic (Makralon) - I don't know, maybe they drank too much Jagertee with heavy shot. One should be careful with his Steyer magazine like a treasure.
PS. There is a well known problem (in Europe) with feeding with some (not all) cartridges e.g. 9,3x62. So if you want to buy a Steyr in this caliber or other calibers you're safe if you test it extensively to be sure it worked well.
Regarding trigger pull with a Steyr double set trigger is in Europe below 1 lbs - it is in a range of 250-350 Gramm. Have owned 2 Steyr rifles therefore I know what I'm talking about.
I bet that it would be quite possible to 3D- print replacement magazines for those Mannlichers with broken factory magazines. Maybe there's a small-business opportunity there ?
@@ronkruchten5867 Please go ahead, the idea is goof - for sure. You have to pay a lot of money or spare magazines at least in Europe. On the other hand the amout of these rifles in use is decreasing over the years.
Plastic mags..?
"Does it really matter that much how elegant a rifle is?" Ummm... yes and no.
There are plain Jane cars and there are the Mercedes and Bentleys. You can tell the time from a Timex or from a Rolex. If a rifle is accurate, reliable and fits you well enough, fair enough. All that and a well carved, figurative hand checkered walnut stock, a properly done slow rust blue finish and some professional touches like barrel band front swivel and a Model 70 type three position safety is, well... better.
Professional gunsmiths build functional and elegant rifles because some people want them and can afford the price. There is a definite pride of ownership. As hunting rifles, the game is oblivious to how much the rifle cost. Just consider it a once in a lifetime investment that you'll pass on to a favourite grandchild.
Great words Stephen.