Character Bleed 101 | LH EP 061
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Conversations like this are so important. I had this happen to me in a D&D campaign I was playing in. My character found out, while onboard a ship, that his father died while he was away adventuring. In real life, my dad had died 3 years before. Neither I, nor my character, got to say goodbye beforehand and it really got to me. I didn’t want the DM to ret-con it, because I didn’t wanna be treated differently, but when the party went to my character’s hometown he kinda freaked out. His father died as a result of a curse brought on by powerful, new artifacts in the city’s museum. When he got the chance to confront the archeologist who had brought them, he was hell bent on revenge. The way I role-played it upset my friends and I had to explain to my friends that it had unknowingly become my own way to have closure for my dad’s sudden death.
Just wanted to say this came at a very timely moment for me. My tabletop group just finished up a 6 month long campaign that ended in a lot of character death... literally yesterday. Although it didn't affect me that much personally, a lot of my co-players were affected and there were tears at the table. I shared this video with them to encourage some healing and support!
I had a D&D group that ran every Friday night for over a year. When we came to the end everyone was going their separate ways and it hit us all very hard that we were not going to see one another anywhere near as often. I thought it was just me who was effected. I felt so alone the following Friday night. I felt empty and directionless. I felt like everyone had moved on and I had to go find new friends all over again, and I'm afraid of people. After a few weeks I had one of the players invite me over for dinner, and it was so good to reconnect. Turns out we were ALL effected by the abrupt stop of gaming and hanging out. So now we all get together once a month for what ever, dinner, movie, board games or a short D&D session. I was absolutely shocked at how hard this game had changed my life. I feel your players pain.
That's a really sweet story ;o; I am so glad your group came back together and that you have them again! Mine actually meet up twice a week, this was just our Sunday game that happened to end! We have many more planned in the future, but it was this DM's first time at the helm and the conclusion was a little disheartening for them. The players had a fantastic time, but we got a sort of "bad ending" because we ended up with a chaotic neutral party that ended up straying pretty far from the main adventure. We could all tell it hurt the DM's feelings a bit that we didn't realize their vision. ;;
"Homeless feral magical girl in a suit of plate armour..." That's one hell of a character description, even in context :P
Also, fantastic video about a topic that's nearly impossible to discuss too much. Particularly the bit about steering and retcons-after-the-fact, which are IMO excellent tools for a lot of situations like that (or even just giving oneself an IC reason to initially talk to a friend's new character and establish a connection that your character might not have sought out without a bit of steering). Your GM/s for that game sounds awesome. (Also, dead-partner-soul-bonded-to-living-partner is cool trope, I think personally. :P )
My biggest instance of character bleed (#5 Surprise) happened when a DM literally shouted "GO TO YOUR F***KING ROOM" at me across the room ("in character" as an inn guard) so loudly the furniture vibrated. I was absolutely stunned into silence and was shaking.
When I said I needed to leave, he just asked me "Are you triggered or something?" and later said "Sorry you got upset" etc, completely dismissing his part in it. Needless to say I didn't go back to that RP. What a douche canoe that guy was.
oh my god... he sounds like a total hecking douche.
Holy crap. That's over the top. I'm so sorry you had to go through that and had a session ruined. I hope they didn't ruin the game for you.
I'm sorry, I don't think that's character bleed though, I think that was triggering.
Watching media and even reading stuff can cause problems.
So, I don't think that's your fault, and the way the dm handled that was awful.
Safety is super-important, especially if your character relation is very emotional or likely to make your fellow player uncomfortable (romantic relation, bullying, etc.). I make it a habit to take the talk with my fellow players a little while before it is necessary to know where their boundaries are, and encourage them to say so if they get uncomfortable.
Me and a friend play two young elves, who are madly in love, and I routinely ask him if he's OK with what we're doing. Because LARP is supposed to be fun, and if you don't trust that your fellow player says "no" if he has a problem, it's hard to just go with the flow and enjoy the game. Just like with BDSM.
I've commented on here before but oh my God. My first event was the first event for this system and the faction I was a part of was basically the evil space soldiers, so we had parades and people got barked at and it was very much that sort of disciplined atmosphere. As someone who has built up a thick skin and has dealt with these kinds of situations before OOC, I found it really immersive. My friend, however, did not appreciate it and it really affected her emotionally. During the game, she later told me she was worried about staying in the same faction as she did not want to be put in that situation again.
HOWEVER. The NPCs and relevant PCs who had been involved in that situation had a discussion and made a kind of code. If you were 'signed off' for parades (no other explanation needed), you could simply not take part in these situations, and you would not be shouted at. Now if you tell them beforehand and they would have yelled at you in character, these NPCs and PCs will just take your character to the side for a moment, have a normal chat, and then come back.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GOOD ORGANISERS AND PLAYERS. Accommodation is *so* key in making sure everyone enjoys the experience in whatever way they prefer and, simply due to their sensitivity and care towards my friend after the fact, she happily remains in the faction and she is deep in dem plotz. So happy.
I love this video, thank you so much. I have a bunch of mental health issues and after going to my first larp last year and not really having as good of a time as I thought I would, I was worrying that larp wasn't for me. But after talking to some of the amazing people in the community and being supported by people at my larp, and coming accross videos like this, I've realised that larp is a set of skills that I haven't developed yet, and that it's ok for me to need to take a step back and to ease myself in more slowly. Baby steps!!!
The whole video resonates with me but I am predominantly commenting with one specific line in mind... "Emotional safety is just safety." This is a splendid video. I love that you mentioned that sometimes you don't mind surprises with certain characters and games and not others, because people don't have to be the same at all times and in all places.
I feel like this sometimes happens to me after I read a book that I got really into. Also I'm cracking up at HAIL HYDRATE!
I love that "put down your keyboard bongos".
I love that you mention having a mental health savvy person at game. The guild I play at has a very pivotal PC, who is referred to an Uncle. He doesn't enjoy combat and stays mainly around the tavern, he isnt a professional but he is extremely observant and will always swoop in when he sees someone in distress and bring them over to his table in the tavern for tea (that's his thing). He is very good at drawing out problems with other PCs and helping them resolve them. Its amazing to have someone at game like this.
You shared this story about the RP uncle a long time ago but I just have to say that this is still a BRILLIANT solution and would be excellent to have on-hand for any campaign.
My favorite part: Hail Hydrate! True story-I just recently got dehydrated... in winter. I didn’t realize that I wasn’t drinking enough water! But the headache that came with the not enough water intake should have been a clue. So if there’s a headache, I would also recommend to drink water!
The brain doesn’t know that fictional situational stress is not real life danger. (You’re not being chased by a lion, but your brain sure thinks you are.) This is one of the reasons why aftercare is needed.
Thank you so much for this video! As a writer (who lives in my fantasy worlds), I definitely get attached to my characters and their cultures and everything.
Yes, I’ve experienced character bleed.
Iris Shikoba yea! Taking care of yourself is priority number 1! If you haven’t got your health, you haven’t got anything.
I just wanted to say that your hair looks really great in this episode :) I mean, it always does, but I especially like how the flowers are all down your braid this time.
Awe thank you!! I felt like Rapunzel xD
I've never LARPed (though I really want to) but i still get character bleed, from writing. I get a ton of Ego Bleed, which is good, since most of my characters are very outgoing and i am the complete opposite. So this is a real thing, weather you LARP or not!
I absolutely adore you Cheyenne, you always just call it like it is and it is so helpful. I am going to my first Nordic style LARP in January, you may have heard of it? Armistice Arcane AKA @TeaofTitalns ? I have not really had a chance to play at many LARP events (three so far but only the viewers on my channel are counting). With this entirely new, full immersion style of event is coming up and I am faced with playing my first player character, I have been trying to build character relationship. It has been so wonderful building character histories, and trying to get into my character's head space. The friendships I am building with the players is so wonderful and I find my self looking to connect with this world more and more each day.
I just found out that the person my character feels is her closest friend, their character dosn't feel the same. I was shocked to find that *I me, Angel, was hurt by this! How crazy is that?!? I had invested real time thinking about how these two would have interacted and histories they shared, and at our faction meet and great call last night this was dropped on me and I was actually sad for a few moments. I messaged the player after and told her of my surprise and was so pleased that she cared enough to talk with me, the way we had been as people talking about the LARP and characters, and reassure me that the friendship that she and I were building in real life was real, it was just her character who is a bit self absorbed w viewed my character who is a little naive, as, well naive...lol
So thank you for this video, and all the wonderful information you share in this channel. You brought me into LARP, settled me into a great game with amazing people, and now you are continuing to educate me game life and help me on this exciting journey into the unknown. You make this world more approachable and less scary and I thank you so much for all you have given to my life personally and to the community at large. Love your guts...and your heart.
So much bleed! I recognize most of these, like the time that I had to retire a character because her depression was making me depressed, or the time playing a multi-gendered multi-sexual shapeshifter gave me a whole new perspective on the fluidity of gender or the time I decided to internalize the blunt mannerisms of one of my characters and changed the way I was communicating with people. I really enjoyed your video!
This really got me. I've got a lot to say but I'll try and condense as much as possible. My home game just ended in October and the character I played there (his name is Todd) has helped me more than any other I've played so far across larp, tabletop, etc, so much so that I've started the beginnings of a comic just so he can be in it. He was firey, emotional and self-destructive- all things I have bottled up in me at any given time and have for a very long time. I watched him change from a coward with nothing to his name in the beginning to the immortal owner of an orphanage by the end, each of his flaws having been systematically challenged on purpose or by accident along the way. For a while, it gave me hope that I could do the same, and in some small way it still does, but to have to leave a part of yourself where the credits roll and the epilogue ends to walk your own far more complicated road of uncertainties is one of the scariest things of all. Now that I've seen that it IS possible for someone so similar to myself get that happy ending, I'm terrified I never will/don't deserve it even if I could. It feels really silly but that's kind of where I am right now. As always, this video was the bomb and so are you. I'm teaching everyone I know that hand signal from now on.
It's great that your character helped you like that. It really is possible for anyone to change their habits and have a happy ending, who cares whether or not you "deserve" it! I hope your journey continues and you keep learning and having breakthroughs.
I have also "spent an inordinate amount of time practicing the strange animal noises that are not attractive in any way."
Thank goodness it's not just me!
Once more, Professor Amy has taught me a good bit about the mind. Splendid.
As a newbie LARPer, this video was so helpful! I didn't even realize there was a word for this! Character bleed is so common and I'm happy to have this video to look back on & to show other people in my game! Thanks Chey
Just remember, bleed is very normal and somewhat undramatic. I usually say that it's like watching a good movie that moves you emotionally (to cry, cheer, laugh, be angry, etc.), only the experience is more intense, because you're really there. But that's just because people tend to treat bleed like some weird, borderline schizofrenic condition, when it's really much simpler.
Very much this. I find another good comparison is the feeling, after finishing a book series you've really loved, of "Whoa... what am I even going to do with myself/my life now?". The people and events are made up, but the feelings and thoughts are very much real. :D
Well spoken
@@emilyredbird7497 I see it as when an actor is acting and he's playing a character and here comes this emotional scene, to make it more realistic, he thinks of emotional stuff that makes his acting more realistic, people who larp are obviously playing characters, they're acting, they're roleplaying, and sometimes certain scenes that come into the game came have your adrenaline pumping or you can have an emotional reaction that may be a bit more real, I've never larped in my life but I personally can't see why people view it so differently when you have those types of moments in larp but not in movies or whatever, or maybe it's just me
Absolutely fantastic video on a really intriguing part of the LARP process. I am a person involved in the Fetish Community, and while I won't at all bring in the dirty details, the process of avoiding emotional distress in fetish/kink is very similar to the process you have described here. Its all about pre-negotiation, continued communication and checking in during the "scene", immediate aftercare, debriefing, and the process of transition back into reality. I feel like this basic formula is so applicable to many potentially emotionally harmful situations, and could be applied in many professions and scenarios to improve outcomes.
I can not like and love this video this enough!!!! Such an amazing episode. I really appreciate how much you focus on mental illness and the mental affects of gaming. I work as a behavioral consultant and I game, so this is a subject pretty close to my heart! This video should be a part of every LARPers must-watch list!
That's amazing to hear! I put a LOT of research and time into this video, probably the most academic research I've done for a video yet. I'm so glad. I hope it can be useful.
Larp House Most definitely! Again EVERY LARPer needs to watch this! Thank you for being so amazing!
I think this is a very important lesson in more than just D&D and LARP. I’m a LARP rookie but I am also a military reservist. I sadly had to brief the unit on the death of one of our members and it hit us all quite hard. It is thanks you you Ma’am that I hope to relay your message to my unit and to my new LARP companions. I one day wish to be an NCO (leader) in my real world unit but first I will do my best to be a leader, or at least a sort of therapist) in my LARP group. Keep making these important videos, you’ve taught me well in the art of LARP and now you have taught me a portion of leadership. Thank you for your content.
Dear lord I jut read the epilogue. I needed a good cry. Gosh I can't wait until I'm old enough to LARP! Thank you, Cheyenne, for another great video and a lovely story!
I am so glad you liked it and I'm sORRY IT MADE YOU CRY OMG
A year later and this video helped me so much. I had some major bleed out where my character's nightmares started to creep into my actual dreams and would wake up in a panic. Thank you so much for this informative video!
I’ve had this, but in dnd. Used to be very quiet about my concerns. Mostly when people were doing stuff wrong. I didn’t want to make them feel bad or stupid even if they were acting like an idiot. Then, my first Dnd character was an edgy, blunt thief that did whatever the heck she wanted. And when her party members screwed up, she was very verbal about it. And called them out on their idiotic behaviors.
Later on, in reality, after a while of playing her, I was doing a group project in school. My partners were idiots and barely focused on the task, screwed around, etc. and I... couldn’t handle it. In a situation I would just bottle my anger and stuff up, I verbally told them off and made them contribute.
And now I love playing blunt characters that can’t tolerate stupid tomfoolery.
Thank you so much for this! I wish I'd seen it (and all of LarpHouse) before my first LARP last year. I was sideswiped by bleed that wrecked me for months and I had NO idea how to deal with it. Eventually, it faded and now it's just a twinge, but knowing that others go through it as well (and that I should've spoken up about it at the time) makes it better.
Thank you for the well-made Video. As my group exploded from 4 to 11 people for the coming year I will definitely keep your teachings in mind. It can sometimes be hard keeping everyone in your close group relation in mind when acting upon your character so I will go through some of these points with everyone beforehand, to make sure everyone is alright with how things are planned.
Keep up the great work!
As a person who has bipolar disorder I use larp as an outlet for my artistic side and help with my problems with noise and my high anxiety and depression. So, thanks for this. My first game is in September.
I am so glad you made this, it really helped me understand bleed better than I did before. A lot of people have talked about bleed, but I never really understood what it meant other than that you were feeling things because your character was feeling them, but this explained quite a few things I've experienced and helped me understand them so thank you
mollevampielol same! 🙌
I'm an actor (and beginning LARPer) and i just realized i experienced a lot of these in my daily life and my acting or rps
This video will be very helpful to me, when I start LARP. I have anxiety disorder and I'm praying that I will find a supportive group that respects bleeds and knows how to deal with them probably.
Bless you for mentioning emancipatory bleed because i would've never learned about it otherwise.
That ending made me tear up. Learn To Magic is perfect happy ending music :') You wonderfully wonderful chaos fairy of wonder...who can also do frog noises(TEACH ME)
Great video, I'm glad you found our publications useful!
Thank you again for doing this. I will admit that I got super excited when I got directly quoted :)
I was jolted a little "oh shit I know youuuu" lol! By the way this is Jeanette
I wasn't sure how character bleed would manifest for me or if it would at all but it did, straight after my first LARP I did ego bleed-out. I actually kept slipping back into the French accent of my character, found myself hyper focused and I took risks a lot easier (and not in the best way lol). Literally, I was driving back and on a couple of occasions my friend had to tell me I was speeding - which is something I barely, if ever, do, /especially/ with someone I care about in the car with me. I'm so glad I wasn't caught by law enforcement or any cameras but it was literally the bleed of my character - who would take those kinds of risks for efficiency's sake. It was so odd, and I'm glad my friend understood and managed to get me back down to Earth a bit more.
The same with another character - same friend though. Our characters had a huge misunderstanding about trust in game and it lead me to actually bring up real feelings I had had towards my friend and I felt that my friend didn't care. Of course, this wasn't true but there were tears and we spoke it out and it was all okay again, so that emotional release and interpersonal bleed meant we were more honest about our situation and walked away from that event even closer.
Look after yourselves, fellas! Character bleed has done great things for my confidence and social abilities but it has also affected my ability to function, and it is important to step back in those moments and reflect and recover.
I struggle from anxiety attacks when in large groups of people and for some unknown reason I recently started having them while driving (scary as hell so I stopped driving) I wish to start LARPING but there are no events anywhere near me .
As someone new to the community, I am so relieved to see you talk about DBT in relation to LARP. I just finished a DBT IOC program and hearing from you and a MH professional how LARP can act as a form of DBT makes me feel so much more comfortable as a person and potential LARPer. I hope things are going well for you!
I think it is a LOT about checking which larps have what vision. There are a couple of larps I would never go to. Like some vampire larps are quite touchy, I just generally hate fighting so I only go to larps where I know that I won't have to be involved in that.
As an npc or organizer, you can't check if everyone is ok with some emotional situations when the larp is just made to be very intense. But normally it is made very clear from the beginning that it is.
In pretty serious war larps, there are always some clearly very ironic and lighthearted characters that just seemingly haven't read the first few lines of the decription. Going to a larp because it just so happened to be closeby is not always a good reason.
There are so many nice and chill larps and it is the atendees task to look for the right larp for them.
I think there are some safeties that organizers have to consider, but asking everyone if they are ok or giving warnings before emotional moments is just going to far for most larps. If someone wants to make that a larp, that is fine, but you can't require it of all larps.
In my main Larp for example we have Stoooop (shouting stoooooop) and Ghost (shouting Ghost, then making the Ghost Symbol as long as you want to be ignored), for when you either want to stop everyone (mostly for medical emergencies) or be treated as a ghost to retreat (for mostly emotional reasons/ ebing overwhelmed/ anxiety). And I honestly think that this is exactly enough. I also purposefully got a larp where my character could not be killed without my agrement, because I know I could not handle that lol.
This video is wonderful! and I relate to it a lot!! Especially friendships forming, and emotional releases and aaaaa so much good stuff!!
This is the best video ever! Thank you so much Cheyenne (however you spell your name). This was perfectly informative and funny. This is my favorite video of your's so far. You did a really great job. Keep doing and being amazing.
Ah! Thank you! You spelled my name perfectly ;)
OMG I finally have a word for this as an actress. THANK YOU! This was such a problem in my community theater group (and the one vampire larp I went to but that is different drama). Thank you thank you thank you. I have like all manner of people to sit down and make watch this thing. WHY DON'T THEY TALK ABOUT THIS IS THEATER?!
"Scream into the Void" can't do that anymore because of you, I would feel bad for Her if I did :P
It would just sigh, adjust it's gloves and say "Ah, this again."
Larp House well okay then next time when screaming into the Void I shall attempt to make it a duet instead and then hope that the Void screams back ;P
I am back to this video again because our last game had a TON of bleed for people, there was a lot of painful moments IC and a lot of people are struggling with it, but I've been encouraging people to explore those feelings and talking about how Nordic LARP doesn't run away from bleed.
I was a confident and kinda crazy and full of energy! Then I moved schools for my senior year and thought "hey. I'm an actor. How about I play a totally different character for fun. (DUMB IDEA) I pretendedto be a shy, sheltered girl who was scared of everything. It was fun at first. I hated my new school so I didn't care what people thought of me. But I played that character for roughly a year and it messed me up. I got some social anxiety now and my ptsd (that I already had) worsened. I have stage fright and I used to LOVE being on stage and speaking infront of people.
Keep up the amazing work. **hugs** miss you. Gods that little moment with you two dressed as Aethyra and Petra. I had to go back like three times, because Rupert was just like **tears**
There'll be more of that soon!! I miss you too. HUGS FOR DAYS.
Great info. :)
Does the wise LarpHouse, have any advise and tips for someone trying to start a LARP on a budget ?
I've been trying to set up a game locally for like 3 years and my biggest problem i think is land, and people not showing; any tips to help improve turnout or finding a a location? Thanks in advance :)
Actually we do! Or, we are compiling it! I put out a Call for Interviews a while back- asking GMs and larpers to submit interviews, and we ask designers about exactly this! Starting new larps. We're gathering interviews now. If you want to help expedite the process, you could help us by sharing the video! I (Cheyenne) have not run a game myself, and I'm gathering the opinions of experts and people who have before I give much advice!
2020 is the worst time to start getting into rpg and larp, I'm devouring videos like this to try to get my fix.
I have a tendency to get into anything way to much. If I’m playing make believe in my backyard by myself (yes I play make believe by myself) and a character gets mad then I begin to get mad. I don’t even realize I’m getting mad or I’m crying. 😂
i've been hooked on your videos!! they're so informative and fun to watch and as a DM for a tabletop rp, LARPing has become super super intriguing to me thanks to you. on the other hand i kept getting like audio flashbacks to another youtuber when you did those voices and zoom ins (which are super funny and cute) and i finally realized i kept thinking of Sailor J! not saying ya'll are alike, but its fun to see what connection my brain made there.
This is so well layed out and so well explained! Thank you so much for making this video. This is all such helpful information as someone who is fairly new to larping.
I've had times where I've drank water and I still got a head ache. I'd say Gatorade is a good thing to bring along for any physically intense larp.
I think all layperson should watch this
This is such an important message, thank you so much Cheyenne
Thank you! I think so too. This will not be the last video on the psychology of larp.
Regarding character bleed - this does not only apply to LARP but to acting and tabletop RPGs. Some of it doesn't sound like a bad thing - learning to understand another perspective or genuinely feeling emotions you are pretending to feel is inevitable in my opinion. I have had experience both with acting and with tabletop RPGs, and I've had this to an extent with both, but it was always very easy to separate my character's feelings from my own, or to acknowledge when I was feeling the same thing or something very close to what my character was feeling (that's not necessarily a bad thing - if you're in a good mood and your character is in a good mood in the moment, there's nothing wrong with channeling that feeling to make your performance better in my opinion). This sounds a bit like the Stanislavski (I might be spelling that wrong) method of acting TBH.
On the other hand, I do think it could be very unhealthy if it got extreme and was hurting someone (ex. your make friends with a toxic person who plays an amazing character and end up inviting them into your life because of your in-game relationship - thank goodness this has never happened to me or anyone I know before), so I do think its something very important to be mindful of, though not necessarily something to fear or avoid.
First-time larper with a bit of stage fright and loving your vids. Thanks.
Great topic 👍
Thanks for doing this video
I've been to literally 1 mid-rein event and it has literally helped me cope with my PTSD. I play as a monk character that is always at peace within himself...now I literally cannot wait fro the next park day.
I'm glad to hear that :) (and sorry to hear you struggling with PTSD)
some days are better then others. It was bad enough to affect my marriage but she wasn't supportive or understood why things would happen etc.
Thank you for this video! I'm a brand new larper and this video answered a lot of questions that I had. Also, you're adorable and fun
I've never LARPed before. I'm getting ready for my very first LARP. I wrote a character (I love writing
Soooo I’m making a college paper about this so thank you for inspiring me and helping me not go insane on my procrastination journey
Just found your channel and I love you. Random question you may have answered before: Would you have any advice for people finding a larp to attend in a new area?
I played a Bartender and owner in my school's version of Robin Hood not too long ago, she was a confident, amicable and generally unapologetic older woman that was pretty different from myself. Still, ever since then I've started addressing people as "hun" like her and I'd like to think her confidence bled into my own personality. I didn't know there was a term for it until now though!
I didn't really know that Bleed was a thing until recently, and I now realise that I had some serious character bleed from my first ever DnD campaign.
I won't go into detail but some real horrible stuff happened to my PC, stuff that really shouldn't happen in a DnD game under any circumstance. The bleed happened because the DM made no distinction between the players and the characters, in his mind my PC was me (which he wasn't). So when the stuff happened to my character, it felt like it was what the DM wanted to do me.
It really took a tole on me, and I've only very recently gotten back into DnD, hopefully with better people from now on.
I feel like this video touches some brilliant points and addresses a lot of issues, i have an issue with one minute point however , it was what you said about surprises, the DM is as much a part of the story and twists surprises and revelations the party or character find within reason is absolutely to be expected after all its a story , and a completely linear story with no surprises or mystery is almost certain to be rather dull , that is however just how i run my games and everyone is entitled to play/run their games how their group sees fit.
Edit: i dont mean major character altering/ending surprises but i mean story beats or things like that are expected in a story
flashback to the time my character died in DND and my friends threw a funeral for me. it was very dramatic and I cried.
OMG Chea! I miss you so much chica!
Interpersonal Bleed is what I experience most of the times after a nordic larp, when I played a deep intense love.
Aww I got special thank you
Well YEA you helped save Petra and my brain and you're a wonderful example of a staff member so oF COURSE
Any suggestions for someone who's done LARP once this year, and has been scared all to hell to go back, because it seems to be very combat heavy and I'm afraid to hit anyone with a boffer? I love the RP and social concepts/aspects of LARP, (Its why I play D&D) but the last time I got a boffer in my hand outside of LARP a friends and I were just fooling around I hurt someone - not seriously but they still got pretty mad at me for it. I've done searching and all the LARPs in Ontario Canada seems to be very combat heavy and the more Social Type LARPs (Like Vampire the Mascaraed, seriously there's a Chapter in Toronto) are very focused in and around Toronto, and that's a bit far... even the one i went to this past year was a bit far, but I went anyway. What do I do?
I was terrified to hit someone with a boffer too, at first! What I did was attend fighter practices to get used to it- usually you can get someone to show you the ropes one-on-one and work up to you feeling comfortable :D
Thank you m'lady
“Put down the keyboard bongos” XD Icon.
I have a friend whose Role Play Characters are always Engineers, (he is an Engineer in real life.) I had a DM assign to me a character who was a different species, sex, age, problem set and alignment than I am in real life, no problem with Character Bleed there. Still, with some effort you can overcome Character Bleed.
Have you ever seen "Mazes and Monsters" starring Tom Hanks?
Oh yeah I’ve been playing my dnd character Pam for like 4, 5 years now? and I’ve started doing so many of her quirks and stuff and vice versa but it’s small stuff I’ll break into her accent stuff like that but when ever I need a confidence boost I just what would pam do
I get worried because I get really into the rp side of dnd, so when my character is mad, I think the other players think I'm mad at THEM
That was a pretty good frog noise
So I’m 2 years late but.. I’m going to my first larp in 6 months and I need a good way to tell the creators about my extreme fear of needles (to the point that I faint). They have stated that they stimulate medical care and while I wasn’t going to be a combat player, I still am scared that something like that could ruin my experience or make it hard on other players. Any advice?
But isn't everyone playing themselves at the end of the day?
I find something about the idea of pretending to not be me fundamentally unsettling. I have not yet worked out why that is. Maybe it has to do with the fact that my original personality is filled to the brim with contradictive qualities that make me feel like I am already a multitude? I don't know. Or maybe it's because I have cultivated the strong instinct to avoid anything that seems to be going into even remote directions of delusion. I do think that I 'roleplay' in my life, but I'm always playing versions of myself. And I have friends that do larp. And even though I do performance art and visual art and live in subcultures and whathaveyou, larp is the one approach that terrifies me in a way I can't understand.
Eeeee LARP House episode!!!
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Chea Kay hey girl! I can’t believe you’re in this! Lol, long time no see! Miss you lots and lots honey!
13:10 bookmark yay
"put down them keyboard bongos"
HAIL HYDRATE!!!
Do most big larps have a team you can go to for issues of sexual consent/comfort. For example with my swing dance society if I at any time feel uncomfortable there is a team I can do to with that. Is that common with larp? X
Im afraid of heights a bit. Im going to jump off a roof. Exposure therapy.
My life is character bleed.
Grenade full of coleslaw😂 Gonna use that one!
You forgot "accidentally bopped nose bleed"
my dumbass thought this was talking about how to use fake blood in larps im bout to loose it
Welp I have a huge crush on someone who plays my characters girlfriend 🥺
Im sorry..... did you say...... harry potter..... larp!?!?! 🤤🤤🤤
okay but
playing (hehe) devils advocate why is there a difference between for example music festivals a fun group activity involving intoxication and a larp a fun group activity involving acting in the sense that why are you pressing for professional emotional support for participants in one as if the other dont have vulnurable participants. its just called a medical tent and events outside cities have them. there, done.
i mean secret gang signs for checkup during game yeah thats just common sense
i so dont get how you can live life and experience all kinds of shit no one plans and then come to a game - where you sometimes even hope for shit to go down - and you expect warnings? i dont understand the check it before you wreck it like do you just wake up and go to the organisers to check at what point of the game a spaceship will fall into the main square so you dont get startled? or during a scene you ask the empty forest if there is an ambush coming because if so youre out?
Warnings are not about wanting to avoid being startled. "They ask for them because they are trying to manage themselves responsibly and still participate in the game." "For certain content." Meaning that many people who need warnings due to trauma etc with certain content can still participate in the game if they have a little time to prepare mentally. Some may need to excuse themselves, but often it's just about managing the situation with some preparation. I do not appreciate your trivializing what people with mental illness go through by reducing it to being "startled." If you have any honest questions that aren't already answered in the video, feel free to ask. Otherwise, "devil's advocates" are just devils, and will not be further engaged here.
im not trying to trivialize i just dont comprehend really the high anxiety thing or whichever term applies here.
what i want to know is how do these warnings actually happen you know what i mean
In that case, it varies individually. Some players may need to know ahead of time if an encounter is dealing with assault (sexual violence), or if there are pyrotechnic effects that make loud (gunshot) noises, or if there are many death expected etc... you warn them beforehand of these things. Just a quick off-game aside, saying that this encounter will deal with these themes. And yes, it can get slightly spoiler-y- but it's far better to have an element of the story "spoiled" for a few players than it is to have PTSD flashbacks and the like on your hands. I've also seen organizers put a warning on entire FB event pages, saying 'this game will deal heavily with themes of x, y and z' and then restating it whenever possible. In some games, you coordinate with an NPC before they come to play their part in your story (Dziobak Studios does things this way) and you brief them on what they're supposed to do, that is also a good time to work out what themes are and aren't okay.
oh so not PG things apart from the non sexual violence and epilepsy warning type stuff
okay i get it more now thanks
My little pony is great
Note: LARP does'nt help with anxiety if you're designing it, instead of just playing