Who Was the True Mastermind? ID v Chad Daybell Day 25 Recap

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
  • The state rests their case in the trial against #ChadDaybell. Texts between the #DoomsdayCouple are shared in court. Plus, the judge denies a motion of acquittal for count 4 of the amended indictment.
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Komentáře • 856

  • @COURTTV
    @COURTTV  Před 15 dny +37

    #CourtTV - What do YOU think?

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +18

      Unfortunately there are religious fanatics everywhere, this is not the first time and won't be the last time either. Convincing people that killing in the name of a god is easy with weak minded people, there are so many cases out there, too many, and there is always a leader.

    • @Planet_Shel
      @Planet_Shel Před 15 dny +8

      ​@@gr122it's religious history from the beginning of documented time that we know of

    • @PAPSN
      @PAPSN Před 15 dny +10

      You asked the panel a while back why wouldn’t you bring up another charge for the others who were murdered and the panel argued that it’s a waste of tax payer dollars and they’re going to be convicted anyway. The answer is TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LOSS OF LIFE OFFICIALLY. To give closure to the families and acknowledge that their loved ones life was valuable and seen.

    • @villalajolla
      @villalajolla Před 15 dny +4

      Chad's Shirts Experiencing an Existential Dilemma:
      "Hmm, are we short sleeved or long?"

    • @nadzach
      @nadzach Před 14 dny

      It is the murder of Christians and Jews that far outnumber other killings based on religion. There are still daily mass murders of Christians and daily rockets into Israel. And the whole Palestinian problem is the commitment of every indoctrinated Gazan to kill every single Jew. The scale weighs very heavy against Judeo-christian culture (which does not include Mormons.) And it does seem like there have been many murderous cults spawned by the LDS religion. I heard there's a book about "the Mormon murders." ​@@Planet_Shel

  • @teresathayn5170
    @teresathayn5170 Před 15 dny +151

    Lori and Chad could have divorced their spouses, gave JJ to Kay, Tylee to Colby and then ran off to be together. But no, they wanted the money! Life w/o parole for both of them!!!

    • @LoremLipsumz
      @LoremLipsumz Před 15 dny +15

      Truly the saddest aspect is they never needed to kill their spouses and her children. A couple of malignant narcissists, the most dangerous coupling. Had they been intelligent people they could’ve gotten away with the murders of their spouses had they not killed the children. Pure greed and EGO

    • @marciarivas1239
      @marciarivas1239 Před 14 dny +15

      They wanted the childrens money... It is so sad !!

    • @lauramartin8036
      @lauramartin8036 Před 14 dny +7

      That's exactly what I thought, but they decided to go down the insanity path, I hope they both rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives, can you just imagine having to spend the rest of your life in a jail cell.

    • @lucyseidner8661
      @lucyseidner8661 Před 14 dny +9

      Exactly they could get divorce and move on with there life 😑😑
      After all, Lori was used to changing husbands every few years 😬😬
      Btw: the crazy of this story is that they thought 💭 that nothing was going to happen to them 😑😑😑

    • @d.jensen5153
      @d.jensen5153 Před 14 dny +8

      @@lucyseidner8661 I've thought about that so many times! Did they really think people would just forget about the kids? Or that Kauai was so far away that Idaho authorities couldn't do anything and would just give up?

  • @JoSpring
    @JoSpring Před 15 dny +223

    Daybell is delusional if he thinks he's ever walking out of prison.

    • @therealz360z7
      @therealz360z7 Před 15 dny +17

      He knows it's a very very long shot but the alternative is admitting guilt and that he would rather die than do .

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 Před 15 dny +5

      Jeezum petes, I hope you're right kuz he's got to pay just like his partner in crime! 😡

    • @brendasanders4039
      @brendasanders4039 Před 15 dny +14

      He's already proven he's delusional with beliefs and murders.

    • @SageWhite-Rose
      @SageWhite-Rose Před 15 dny +14

      I thought that about Casey Anthony and look what happened. 😥😱😱🫨

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +16

      no problem he can always create a portal 🤣

  • @willteasel6099
    @willteasel6099 Před 15 dny +165

    Chads ratings system was nothing less than a hit list - crazy & evil is the best way to describe Chad & Lori.

  • @PAPSN
    @PAPSN Před 15 dny +93

    I feel so so bad for Charles Vallow and the way he was trapped and murdered and sweeped under the rug and forgotten about. He literally begged law enforcement to help him that Lori was crazy and his kids were in danger. Begged for help. Begged to save him and his kids and no one would listen to him and they trapped him in that house and murdered him.

    • @Lovie2023
      @Lovie2023 Před 15 dny +10

      Ik he's not mentioned in any of this. RIP Charles,Tyle, JJ & Tammy

    • @tkandake5564
      @tkandake5564 Před 14 dny +13

      Yeah. My heart always breaks for Charles Vallow! He was right about everything and still it didn’t help him, the children or Tammy in the end. Justice for CHARLES VALLOW!

    • @user-tr7yg7zo3j
      @user-tr7yg7zo3j Před 14 dny +13

      I found the Charles Vallow story incredibly tragic. I knew Lori was evil after seeing her flirting with the stupid Arizona cops in front of Charles’s house after his murder by Alex. What has happened to law enforcement these days? Der.

    • @denisedeane8218
      @denisedeane8218 Před 14 dny +9

      Even after he asked for help and subsequently was murdered, the police let the killer go ! No questions asked. Even though Alex cox had a history of attacking lori’s husbands. They let him go and he went on to murder the children and Tammy. All could have been avoided if someone listened to Charles especially once he turned up dead! You couldn’t make it up. So sad

    • @catworld8119
      @catworld8119 Před 14 dny +2

      @@Lovie2023 That's because his death occurred in Arizona, not Idaho. He will get his own trial with Lori being the accused. It will be the next one after Chad gets to lose his portal for eternity.

  • @pyrografix
    @pyrografix Před 15 dny +62

    2 immature, narcissistic, overly horney serial killers who enabled each other in every way.

  • @barbmurraybabss
    @barbmurraybabss Před 15 dny +102

    The audacity of calling Tammy vanilla. We heard and read his attempts at being seductive vomit 🤢 🤕 🤮

    • @stephaniesamra7960
      @stephaniesamra7960 Před 15 dny +2

      What does that mean?

    • @janecarroll5641
      @janecarroll5641 Před 15 dny +11

      Like a love sick teen with his badly written novels

    • @johannas.l.brushane2518
      @johannas.l.brushane2518 Před 15 dny +8

      ​@@stephaniesamra7960 It is typically referred to someone being alright with the missionärer and not sexually adventurous.

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 Před 14 dny

      ​@@stephaniesamra7960It means that Chad was bored with having sex with Tammy. Rather than have an honest conversation with his wife about his wants and desires Chad decided to betray his loving wife, his marriage, and his family and have a gross extramarital affair with a piece of trash.

    • @Thatsinteresting363
      @Thatsinteresting363 Před 14 dny +11

      Chad talks like a prepubescent boy

  • @sew161
    @sew161 Před 15 dny +120

    The sickest part is there are still many out there (such as Jodie Hildebrand and Ruby Franke)

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 Před 15 dny +10

      HOW does this happen to a person?!? It's terrifying knowing people like that are walking amongst us!!!

    • @andreag3532
      @andreag3532 Před 15 dny +16

      Mormons

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny +5

      Yeah.... people out there looking at you & deeming you a zombie!!!😮😮 wtf?!

    • @tonics7121
      @tonics7121 Před 15 dny +10

      Add a couple of Melanies, and a Zulema.

    • @sew161
      @sew161 Před 15 dny +2

      @@teresathayn5170 terrifying, well said

  • @katalindejong8388
    @katalindejong8388 Před 14 dny +26

    Chad made a mistake thinking that he was receiving messages from God when instead it was from the Devil

    • @bquietsouhear
      @bquietsouhear Před 14 dny +2

      💯👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny +1

      You made the mistake of believing in mythical creatures. God is everything or God is nothing.

  • @Thatsinteresting363
    @Thatsinteresting363 Před 14 dny +9

    Lori’s “looks” have faded fast. Her beauty, if she ever had any, has long been gone.

  • @natashafreeman2220
    @natashafreeman2220 Před 15 dny +101

    They both were equally manipulative but in their own way. Any one who disagreed with them or was just in the way was labeled “dark” & their murder plotted.

    • @elainecongo3827
      @elainecongo3827 Před 14 dny

      TRUE! THEY BOTH WERE EVIL NUTS AND FED OFF OF EACH OTHER...THEY WERE PULLING EACH OTHERS STRINGS...THEY BOTH WERE WILLING TO GET RID OF PEOPLE

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we Před 13 dny +2

      Or was worth money to them..

  • @rosalinddances2890
    @rosalinddances2890 Před 14 dny +13

    This is not just sick, it’s actually demonic. No joke

    • @nonaanon3805
      @nonaanon3805 Před 14 dny +3

      I’ll be pleased when it’s over. I can’t stop watching but it makes me nauseous 🤢

    • @Littleangel_-jp4xb
      @Littleangel_-jp4xb Před 14 dny +1

      @@nonaanon3805 I listened to all of Lori's trial. this one? not so much because I had already heard this sick mentality play itself out. It hurt my heart. But it's interesting he has actual defense witnesses. Lori's lawyers had nothing.

    • @olgatrilogymartin3143
      @olgatrilogymartin3143 Před 14 dny +1

      Amen

  • @LadySpeedwell
    @LadySpeedwell Před 15 dny +103

    This case has to be one of the most evil and chilling ever to come to light. I find it more so than Manson.

    • @Hey_its_just_me_to
      @Hey_its_just_me_to Před 15 dny +17

      Because Manson never lied about who he was, he was open with everything. Chad is more dangerous because you would never know that he’s a serial killer!

    • @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp
      @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp Před 15 dny +6

      It's up there and here's the irony,I believe Lori is a believer in his words and promises even though he is a liar and knows quite well he don't tex Alex and is a servant of the devil.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD Před 15 dny +3

      ​@@Hey_its_just_me_toSo true!!

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny

      👺👺👺THAT'S WHO THEY SERVE!! And too delusional to SEE it!

    • @bonniepark6802
      @bonniepark6802 Před 15 dny +2

      Have you read Helter Skelter

  • @bobbicatt
    @bobbicatt Před 15 dny +122

    I think the state has proven beyond doubt that Chad was in charge and behind all these murders. I still can’t get over that Tami’s kids are so blind to the facts and are still sticking up for their father. I understand this must be difficult for them, but TAMI deserves better. I don’t think anything the defense can say will turn anything around.

    • @shelley7585
      @shelley7585 Před 15 dny

      I think some of Chad's children are afraid to disagree with him. They would be rated dark and killed.

    • @yankeecitygirl
      @yankeecitygirl Před 15 dny +14

      The defense witnesses may actually make it worse

    • @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp
      @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp Před 15 dny +5

      Yeah it's sad but easy to believe if we accept that they have probably (definitely) read his books and had a life of chads shxx

    • @moniqueratelle-babin2155
      @moniqueratelle-babin2155 Před 14 dny +10

      They were told by Chad to stay away from trial so unless they are watching they don't know any of the stuff we've heard. Those last crazy texts sure sealed the deal.

    • @larrycolon7320
      @larrycolon7320 Před 14 dny

      Those kids are dumb as nails to still believe in their so called father!!

  • @Daash27
    @Daash27 Před 14 dny +36

    After snatching Tammy's husband and getting her killed, Lori had the audacity to call Tammy her friend. Sickening.

    • @gaiagreen2690
      @gaiagreen2690 Před 14 dny

      Grown up, responsible men don't get "snatched" by promiscuous women. Men are not objects and they are not animals, they make DECISIONS. Chad had a loving and dedicated wife who obeyed him and worked hard so he can lazy around. He COULD have said no, but he CHOSE not to. He talked big about religion, but he turned out to be rotten to the core, a liar and a cheating fornicator himself. As we just heard, he made that decision over and over again. The traditional, patriarchal, misogynist "it's always the woman's fault" theory is outdated and false. Lori is a monster, but Chad was not her slave. He was a husband of 30 years, a father and a "believer," so he and only he carries the responsibility for his disgusting and criminal actions.

  • @DezleySD7
    @DezleySD7 Před 15 dny +29

    Zulema and Melanie Fibb are both in on this and they’ll get away with it. That’s not justice

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +7

      all those women, not one moved a finger to help those children or Charles, they did nothing.

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny +8

      Also the neice Melanie - who has 5 kids & the 2middle ones were rated dark.... she still gets custody! And had another with the new dolt she married!!!😮😮😮

    • @rdw2457
      @rdw2457 Před 14 dny +2

      Melanie Fibb 🤣

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny +1

      That’s always how it works when a group of people are involved. The government needs the less-involved ppl to flip on the masterminds and the only insensitive is to give them immunity 😢

    • @karenaltschwager5929
      @karenaltschwager5929 Před 12 dny

      Don't forget Julie rowe

  • @lilnikki3233
    @lilnikki3233 Před 14 dny +20

    It’s sadistic to see Chad and Lori speak about hurting children then ending the text with sexually charged statements. Prior had the nerve to say there are no texts of Chad saying let’s kill the kids when those texts say exactly that. I pray for justice

    • @elainecongo3827
      @elainecongo3827 Před 14 dny +2

      I AGREE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT KILLING THE KIDS...EVIL!

  • @mikewoodland4461
    @mikewoodland4461 Před 14 dny +18

    Just when you think after watching this entire case so far that nothing could shock you , those texts have left me speechless

    • @elainecongo3827
      @elainecongo3827 Před 14 dny

      I KNOW THE TEXT MESSAGES WERE CREEPY

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      Call me naive but I wasn’t expecting much new evidence! It’s a LOT.

  • @Yinzer_412
    @Yinzer_412 Před 15 dny +33

    If I were Melanie Gibb I would be so embarrassed to admit I believed this crap. I hope these people get their heads checked

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      She is! She always dances around it and downplays her role. But she can’t fully deny it because there’s texts.

  • @SageWhite-Rose
    @SageWhite-Rose Před 15 dny +38

    Poor Tylee was probably being sweet and cleaned her room because she was afraid for her life.
    It make me so sick and 😡 angry!

  • @Stephanie-ni6zc
    @Stephanie-ni6zc Před 15 dny +30

    Poor Tylee. She had been called a zombie, so was probably being on her best behavior. And then that’s used against her. SMH.

  • @brendajuarez9326
    @brendajuarez9326 Před 15 dny +28

    Emma Is a middle school teacher and she believes his delusions, really sketchy

    • @ahermannblue
      @ahermannblue Před 15 dny +11

      It makes me wonder what the certification requirements are for teachers in Idaho.

    • @T.Rex33
      @T.Rex33 Před 15 dny +3

      She’s no longer teaching.

    • @violette4841
      @violette4841 Před 15 dny +3

      @@ahermannblue If you belong to the main religion, you get plenty of references to certify you and fit in. Can you imagine if you don't belong to this religion how very dark you are labeled? You don't have to be brilliant to become a teacher in or out of Idaho.

    • @emccarthy2503
      @emccarthy2503 Před 15 dny +2

      @@T.Rex33Kershaw intermediate school, she is currently on their staff list as a 3rd grade teacher.

    • @bonniejoy4498
      @bonniejoy4498 Před 15 dny +7

      She teaches elementary level. Her brother, Garth, teaches middle school. Terrifying!

  • @judyanderson5772
    @judyanderson5772 Před 15 dny +49

    And also taking about Brandon's children. One of those children is 3 years old. They are talking about causing them pain. I have no words.

    • @lisahoilman7479
      @lisahoilman7479 Před 15 dny +9

      If not caught, I think any more would have been killed

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +12

      they were next on his list, yet a 3 year old child would of been no threat to them, I believe that Melanie P wanted to follow her aunt's footsteps and get them out of her way.

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny +9

      Yes! Melanie P has 4kids, 2 middle ones were rated dark in text &she still gets custody of them. She had another one with the new dolt she married!😮😮

    • @judyanderson5772
      @judyanderson5772 Před 13 dny

      this new dolt was the only adult that came foward to help the police though. He must have felt pretty strong about it as he contacted the police on his wedding night. For that I commend him. In saying that, not sure that I would have stuck around after that red flag was flying.

  • @Love_maui_2017
    @Love_maui_2017 Před 15 dny +59

    How can anyone follow Chad, I mean he’s not even good looking or charismatic; he talks, acts, and looks like a big dufuss! Lori is just right out kookoo for Cocoa Puffs!
    And let’s not forget there are many many more of them!!!! Zulema got immunity which means she was in on it, she knew!
    They should all be in jail for conspiracy!!!!

    • @Hey_its_just_me_to
      @Hey_its_just_me_to Před 15 dny +6

      Yes it’s true, if you do erase arch on cult leaders one thing they all have in common is that they are charismatic and are leaders! Chad? No way!

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 Před 15 dny +2

      this is what happens in the age of self-______ (write in any title here).
      self-prophet, in this case. and everyone just bandwagons because their education is the university of google and a mindset that people aren’t bad. lol
      like, come on.

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +7

      @@Hey_its_just_me_to I agree he is boring, just to hear him talk would put me to sleep.

    • @spookshow6999
      @spookshow6999 Před 15 dny +2

      Demonic possession

    • @Hey_its_just_me_to
      @Hey_its_just_me_to Před 15 dny

      @@spookshow6999 I wonder sometimes, we can only blame mental illness for so long, like the women who kill their children there has to be more!

  • @user-of2xd4id1o
    @user-of2xd4id1o Před 14 dny +15

    Chad has never really worked hard to provide for his family.Poor Tammy had to work publish his books and then he wanted her to up her Life Insurance.Oh wow what a scumbag

  • @sandrabaker5298
    @sandrabaker5298 Před 15 dny +24

    30:53
    Gibb trying to act like she didn’t fully believe in Chad & Lori’s BS, but she believed Lori was her mother in a “past life” enough to call her “mom”. Sick people!

    • @marian3516
      @marian3516 Před 14 dny +3

      That was Melani Polowaski. She started calling Lori Mom and Chad, Dad. She lost her own mother early in her life. And her Dad is out of the picture.

    • @brittneyvigneri
      @brittneyvigneri Před 13 dny

      ​@@marian3516in Melanie GIBB'S POLICE INTERVIEW she admits that in an alternate probation that Lori was her mother and the police corroborated that fact by seeing the numerous texts on their phones where Lori called MG "baby" and vice versa. That's super creepy! Also, MP's mother was Lori's sister who died many years ago so this why MP looked up to her aunt and was so "vulnerable" (in the words of her new husband, Ian). So both of these facts are true.

    • @karenaltschwager5929
      @karenaltschwager5929 Před 13 dny

      Yep! Lori and Chad were called mum and dad by both Melanie's I'm sure. All are complicit immature crack pots.

    • @karenaltschwager5929
      @karenaltschwager5929 Před 12 dny

      Lori was very experienced sexually.... she showed him a few new tricks and he was mesmerised.

  • @ndgrandma2124
    @ndgrandma2124 Před 15 dny +61

    A teacher in an elementary school, namely Emma, believes in Slug's scale of light and dark for children. She roams the halls and doing what?? Deeming children unworthy of living??

    • @barbmurraybabss
      @barbmurraybabss Před 15 dny +3

      She would sue if they fired her

    • @kellyhiller3977
      @kellyhiller3977 Před 15 dny +11

      She should be let go of then.

    • @andreag3532
      @andreag3532 Před 15 dny +10

      He kids are just as delusional

    • @Star-hk6gc
      @Star-hk6gc Před 15 dny +12

      She should be fired!

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny +15

      Omy... a TEACHER rating your child a ZOMBIE?!?! I can't believe it😮💔💔 SHAME ON EMMA!😡

  • @punky19761
    @punky19761 Před 15 dny +55

    I think they both had their own motives and came together in a horrible hot mess.

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 Před 15 dny +3

      Sex, power, and greed.

    • @bethnorrod5942
      @bethnorrod5942 Před 15 dny

      Absolutely. Chad knew he was making it up as he went along. At first it was because he was jealous of his siblings successes, wanted the same attention Julie Rowe was getting and used it to control his family. He used it to flirt with women. I don't think Lori believes it either. I think she pretended because she enjoyed the attention from their little cult and she could get her dirty work done by others. Chad preached even before he met Lori that Rexburg was going to be the new Holy Land and thats where the 144,000 had to be. He abandoned that real quick for Lori's dream of living in luxury in Hawaii. Jobless and childless.

  • @DezleySD7
    @DezleySD7 Před 15 dny +34

    Chad will soon find out a lot of prisoners love a good storm at night

    • @ralphmajor1947
      @ralphmajor1947 Před 15 dny +5

      Big Bubba has a Storm for Chad when he gets to prison 😂😅😊just sayin 😉!

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD Před 15 dny +3

      💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +6

      Jail is full of storms, and he can't even pick and choose, I assume he won't be able to sit down if they get to him.

    • @Lovie2023
      @Lovie2023 Před 15 dny +2

      😂😂😂​@@ralphmajor1947

    • @kimberleypatty2604
      @kimberleypatty2604 Před 14 dny

      😂

  • @bethnorrod5942
    @bethnorrod5942 Před 15 dny +21

    Melani Pawlowski was going to sacrifice her children because Lori wanted her to stay in the cult, but didn't want the children around. There's texts between Lori and Alex about a password. Alex's password was 2manykids. Not to mention how heavily involved in Brandon's attempted murder Melani was. How she wasn't charged for anything is beyond me. How a judge could give her joint custody is too. Lori was telling everyone Melani would have enough money to take care of the whole cult because they thought she'd end up with Brandon's $1mil life insurance. Chad says he explained to JJ that he'd take care of Lori after they murder him and Lori thinks it's sweet. So evil.

    • @jcny11
      @jcny11 Před 13 dny +1

      Her kids were next. ☹️😬

  • @moniqueratelle-babin2155
    @moniqueratelle-babin2155 Před 14 dny +14

    The giggling during their jailhouse call..omg🤢🤮

  • @user-rw8rp3du3m
    @user-rw8rp3du3m Před 15 dny +33

    Julie Rowe is as guilty as Lori and Chad. She started this insanity

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +1

      There are a lot of Julie Rowes out there, all religious fanatics and frauds

    • @therealz360z7
      @therealz360z7 Před 14 dny +6

      Thom Harrison visions of glory has a huge part in this somebody gets a lot of royalties over that book and kids are dieing over that book.

    • @karenm7449
      @karenm7449 Před 14 dny +6

      I think there are a LOT of people who should have been charged, excommunicated and made to answer for their delusional ideas. I feel for the wonderful and good mainstream LDS adherents but I also feel there is something inherently wrong somewhere in the teaching that leads to so many people going off the deep end. For people with normal psychology it's fine but for those who have any kind of deviancy or think outside the normal bell curve there is danger.

    • @franceshaypenny8481
      @franceshaypenny8481 Před 13 dny

      @@therealz360z7 You can't blame book writers or musicians if twisted a-holes are inspired to do evil from their works. Heck, The Manson Family were inspired by the Beatles White Album - that doesn't mean the Beatles were evil. Mormonism is the grand daddy cult, and we constantly see Mormons in the news doing dumb and horrible things, and yes it is related to that stupid ideology which teaches reincarnation and polyamory and that Jesus and Satan were Brothers, and much much more nonsense that is unbiblical, and insidiously evil. I'd be more inclined to blame Joseph Smith than Julie Rowe.

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      Good luck proving THAT. Isn’t it a bit dangerous to put her on the same level as Lori and Chad? The ones who conspired and killed k!ds? Besides, she’s no more extreme than your average Christian who believes people can be evil or possessed 😂

  • @Hey_its_just_me_to
    @Hey_its_just_me_to Před 15 dny +34

    Ohhhhh after these texts he is definitely the mastermind!

  • @amazinlynn3358
    @amazinlynn3358 Před 15 dny +23

    To me they were both the mastermind. You got two people who had the same interests and found it attractive in one another. Lori agreed with the king and hopped in the drivers seat. She claimed her throne next to him during this whole ordeal. She just made everything worse calling her husband and kids "zombies".

  • @karenhall6762
    @karenhall6762 Před 15 dny +11

    I absolutely love Vinnie Politan being so passionate about this case, I tip my hat to you Vinnie and your channel! Love from Vancouver BC 🇨🇦

  • @lorileary4432
    @lorileary4432 Před 14 dny +7

    LOVED it when Larry Woodcock said that Chad's lawyer(s) were gonna throw Lori under a steamroller, not just a bus ! clapping, LOL

  • @cynthiaguarino2016
    @cynthiaguarino2016 Před 15 dny +18

    How does anyone know that Chad wasn't that experienced in relationships? He could have been living a complete double life that no one is aware of.

    • @champton911
      @champton911 Před 14 dny

      His attempts at romance are pretty telling. 🤢

  • @JohnSpurrell
    @JohnSpurrell Před 15 dny +22

    What upsets me is the ice cold Callous attitude of the police department there, even when he asked for help that his wife was going to murder him as well the life insurace company attempting to prevent him from changing the name of the Beneficiary on his own life insurance !!!

    • @jenniferlatham6935
      @jenniferlatham6935 Před 15 dny +2

      Are you talking about Charles or Chad?

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny

      @@jenniferlatham6935 Charles

    • @Rebecca236
      @Rebecca236 Před 14 dny +2

      @@jenniferlatham6935Charles obviously 🙄

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny +1

      The thing that sucks is that police can’t prevent crimes based on what someone tells them might happen. That would infringe on our constitutional rights. Esp since a lot of these ppl who go to cops are actually liars. I had a mentally ill ex roommate accuse me of all sorts of stuff and brought the police into it JUST because I wanted to move out early bc of her. Luckily I knew my rights and sure enough- they didn’t do anything but suggest I stay away from her. Their hands are tied. But they can at LEAST offer guidance and refer the person to resources 😢

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      @@Rebecca236it’s not THAT obvious considering that Charles has zero to do with this (Chad’s) legal case going on now, and there are a LOT of new people to it too.

  • @tigerlily102511
    @tigerlily102511 Před 15 dny +17

    This is absolutely sickening. Lori and Chad manipulated each other to get what they wanted. I mean Lori was looking to Chad to get light/dark numbers. The kids were dark when they misbehaved but when they behaved, they were switched back to light. And the numbers.... Where TF did Chad come up with these numbers. "I'll text you when they start acting up and we will zap them" is a very disturbing comment to me.
    Then when Tylee and JJ's numbers increased, Lori was disappointed that the number wasn't at zero.
    It's like they were just waiting for the right time for Tylee, JJ, and Tammy's numbers to be just right to justify killing them.
    Charles, JJ, Tylee and Tammy were just obstacles and never stood a chance against these monsters.
    Then talking about sex right in the middle of talking about the demise of her kids. How disgusting!!!! It's like two horny teenagers who just don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

  • @Mom99004
    @Mom99004 Před 15 dny +19

    Both guilty of this. Sickening texts

  • @MrBetc
    @MrBetc Před 15 dny +51

    After listening to all those phone calls especially the ones before the kids were found when Lori was in jail, no doubt Chad was the one behind all the delusion in his pathetic life. When the defense starts calling Chads kids to the stand I think the whole world will see the truth of the madness. When Lori and Chad met was like adding gas to the fire.

    • @Pokey-Mom
      @Pokey-Mom Před 15 dny +3

      @@Marilisbeth1next week

    • @bobbicatt
      @bobbicatt Před 15 dny +20

      I still am having a hard time with Chad’s kids. Especially Emma and the conversation she had with Chad in the police car. I think some of those kids know more than they are saying and will do whatever they can to help Chad. With that said, it’s so sad they can’t or won’t see the evidence and are not advocating for their mother.

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 Před 15 dny +6

      Chad's the only parent they have left. SHAME on him!!!!

    • @snowwhite2524
      @snowwhite2524 Před 15 dny +9

      Chad is a monster for dragging his children to court to lie for him for no reason because he's definitely going to spend the rest of his life in prison. I hope that his children are held accountable if they decide to commit perjury for their child murdering father.

    • @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp
      @GeoffGouthwaite-wp1gp Před 15 dny +2

      The perfect storm was their union (no pun intended)

  • @angelayurich2286
    @angelayurich2286 Před 15 dny +13

    Her OWN children!! Poor babies. 💔💔

  • @ginabrown4463
    @ginabrown4463 Před 14 dny +6

    Poor Charles, tried and tried to get in front of ALLLLLL of this evil stuff, fell on deaf ears! What a shame😢

  • @beckydavis747
    @beckydavis747 Před 15 dny +12

    Chad acted like he was god how can you predict how long someone lives its just so horiffic now they will never see each other again

  • @susanmoore7229
    @susanmoore7229 Před 15 dny +22

    I think lawyering on both sides have been fairly slick. I admire Mr. Prior for handling the defense on his own. But, Blake & prosecutors are the stars here. What a way to finish! All that new info that ties everything up sequentially with Chad leading the way was superb in placement and presentation. I agree with Judge Boyce re everything they have proved. 👍 Thank you Vinnie

    • @julesfromsydney
      @julesfromsydney Před 15 dny +4

      To have 4 lawyers for the state screw up so royally after months of opportunity to get it right by having the date on the indictment on count 4 for the murder of JJ incorrect could have cost everything regarding justice for JJ. I think the fact that Judge Boyce picked it up immediately after the state rested and then subsequently found a way to fix this leaves no one in doubt that now Judge Boyce is clearly the star in this one!

    • @BrendaFolda-vo8mv
      @BrendaFolda-vo8mv Před 15 dny +3

      I agree with you

    • @BitcoinKhaleesi
      @BitcoinKhaleesi Před 15 dny +4

      Well said!

    • @laurieg673
      @laurieg673 Před 14 dny +4

      It was fixed because it was a typo. The original indictment has the correct date. It was not the prosecutions error. ​@@julesfromsydney

    • @julesfromsydney
      @julesfromsydney Před 14 dny +3

      ​@@laurieg673Whether you agree with it or not, the law is the law, and there in no such thing as a typo. It is the prosecution's job to ensure all case documents submitted to the court are true and correct. An error of this magnitude once prosecution rests could have caused a lot of damage in this case. You would not expect that after all the months they had to prepare that an error like this would not occur. Judge Boyce literally saved this from causing irreparable damage!

  • @cr-qo3ov
    @cr-qo3ov Před 15 dny +18

    I hope the jury get to take these texts back to the Jury Room when they deliberate

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      Of course, they get access to all evidence for review. Just not their notes. They can only take notes to embed info into their memory and not to reference.

  • @laurieg673
    @laurieg673 Před 14 dny +9

    I can't believe he thought a trial was a good idea.

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      He’s a narcissist. They are delulu by nature.

  • @judycummings4059
    @judycummings4059 Před 14 dny +10

    I don't believe it was God telling Lori & Chad to do this, but them using God to fit their own agenda.

    • @helencheung2537
      @helencheung2537 Před 14 dny

      Well... duh.

    • @catworld8119
      @catworld8119 Před 14 dny

      @@helencheung2537 no need to be rude

    • @mamaindy61
      @mamaindy61 Před 13 dny

      @@catworld8119I don’t think she meant to be rude. She’s being honest.

  • @carolynking6874
    @carolynking6874 Před 14 dny +5

    I am sooo glad Charles gave the life insurance to his sister!! Hahaha Lori!! Disappointed???

  • @KLHatch
    @KLHatch Před 14 dny +9

    Prosecutor Blake is a badass!! I love how she’s on top of all the objections. So professional and totally commanding! Kind of fan girling over it, honestly.

    • @helencheung2537
      @helencheung2537 Před 14 dny

      Yet she missed the clerical errors that could have resulted it the case against Chad being dismissed.

    • @KLHatch
      @KLHatch Před 14 dny +2

      @@helencheung2537 if in your eyes, all of her good work can be undone by one typo that you don’t even know if she did, then I don’t know what to say.

  • @annevaneeden
    @annevaneeden Před 15 dny +27

    Lori is manipulating him by his 'storm'

    • @weaponizedglitter69
      @weaponizedglitter69 Před 15 dny +10

      Hard to fathom that droll, monotone voice of his talking dirty during sexy time.

    • @alexmcvey1609
      @alexmcvey1609 Před 15 dny +9

      Never gonna be able to hear the word storm again without being reminded of this 🤢 ugh they've ruined the word for me

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny +8

      @@weaponizedglitter69 if his sex was anything like the way he talked, it wasn't good LOL

    • @ratterrierdogma
      @ratterrierdogma Před 15 dny +3

      Just EW.

    • @fayeart5277
      @fayeart5277 Před 15 dny +5

      I just up chucked a little, that's just a nasty thought 🤮

  • @user-jl4qz7hz4v
    @user-jl4qz7hz4v Před 14 dny +7

    I'm LDS and I know this is nuts.

  • @cindymaggio6537
    @cindymaggio6537 Před 15 dny +22

    I turned up the pain says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @lindaouellette6656
    @lindaouellette6656 Před 14 dny +6

    Even IF! He never laid a hand on the kids! Even IF! he never laid a hand on Tammy (I believe he did) HE 100% is responsible and those text if nothing else proves it, ALL OF IT!!! 😢 goodby in advance Chad!!!

  • @user-jl4qz7hz4v
    @user-jl4qz7hz4v Před 14 dny +9

    They seem like Charles Vallow is forgotten about.

    • @Ausgar-yc1yl
      @Ausgar-yc1yl Před 14 dny

      He hasnot to do with this case.

    • @mamaindy61
      @mamaindy61 Před 13 dny

      @@Ausgar-yc1ylHis trial will be in Arizona

    • @Ausgar-yc1yl
      @Ausgar-yc1yl Před 13 dny

      @@mamaindy61 I understand that, thank you.

  • @maeolaogden5223
    @maeolaogden5223 Před 15 dny +6

    They were equals in these diabolical acts.

  • @jetje6132
    @jetje6132 Před 15 dny +11

    It's the end of times for Chad Daybell, and so it should be!

    • @janecarroll5641
      @janecarroll5641 Před 15 dny +4

      He didn’t see that coming did he the big weirdo

  • @theress9063
    @theress9063 Před 14 dny +8

    I think the testimony so far clearly has Chad as the ring leader!

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny +4

      Here’s how I see this going:
      Lori vents to Chad about the kids driving her nuts, he slips it in that they are being influenced by evil, she is VERY receptive to that idea and now he knows she will be open to the “solution”.

  • @bonnemoms5413
    @bonnemoms5413 Před 14 dny +3

    I missed the entire Chad trial. Good grief! It took too long to come. I'm headed back to watch it all after i finish this video.
    So glad you guys got it!

  • @tammyloustorydickerson4447

    It's funny that Chad's kids aren't dark( THEY ARE ON THEIR DAD'S SIDE THAT'S WHY)

  • @susanreed8186
    @susanreed8186 Před 15 dny +7

    They sound absolutely crazy

  • @lisabelle7553
    @lisabelle7553 Před 14 dny +3

    Let's imagine for a minute that Lori truly believed her children had turned into zombies and were dark spirits that needed to be Dispatched with. Where is the sadness? Wouldn't you, as a mother, be sad that your children were overtaken by dark spirits, and you were losing them? There is zero sadness. And that has nothing to do with her crazy beliefs. And she wouldn't have able to use an insanity plea in another state because she knew how to hide all the details and acting around police. She knew right from wrong and did everything to cover up their dark deeds.

  • @Platinumpuppy
    @Platinumpuppy Před 14 dny +4

    I wish JJ’s grandparents were my grandparents. My Grandpa died when I was 3.

  • @kathym7490
    @kathym7490 Před 14 dny +5

    Those two ghouls are as evil as each other.

  • @cathyhankins2929
    @cathyhankins2929 Před 14 dny +5

    With all the "castings" and light and dark..it's like Chad is practicing witchcraft but presenting it as " religion and God's will"

  • @peggiebecker655
    @peggiebecker655 Před 15 dny +16

    They never stopped and just kept plotting murder, turned them on. Chad is in real trouble, he was plotting it all.

    • @gr122
      @gr122 Před 15 dny

      In Lori he found fertile ground he could easily work with since she was already a crazy religious fanatic before she met him. When he realized she was attracted to him he couldn't believe his luck since he has been an ugly looser all his life, he couldn't wait to show her off to family and friends before and after married, like look what I got, he showed her as his trophy it boosted his ego.

  • @rosalinddances2890
    @rosalinddances2890 Před 15 dny +7

    Make no mistake. This guy: Mr Potato head may seem laughable and pathetic. but he is a walking talking servant to a host of demonic entities. This is no joke, especially when you see dismemberment on their sacrifices: Tylee

  • @katalindejong8388
    @katalindejong8388 Před 15 dny +4

    They are both so insecure that they even had to manipulate Alex to get involved to do their dirty job.

  • @user-of2xd4id1o
    @user-of2xd4id1o Před 14 dny +4

    Laurie is so angry at Charles's sister.Getting the money that she's not going to let Charles sister get JJ and she doesn't want JJ anymore.Sold j j has to be destroyed

  • @luckysunbird8862
    @luckysunbird8862 Před 14 dny +8

    Hi from Australia. I cannot grasp how people can believe anything Chad said.

  • @stark8961
    @stark8961 Před 15 dny +8

    I was in the courtroom last week

    • @janecarroll5641
      @janecarroll5641 Před 15 dny +2

      What did you think of Chad in person he comes across dull and stupid

    • @stark8961
      @stark8961 Před 13 dny +1

      @@janecarroll5641 he plays with his hands...he has very little petite hands. He tries to stare at all of us when we come in...I wouldn't make eye contact

    • @janecarroll5641
      @janecarroll5641 Před 13 dny +1

      @@stark8961 he just looks so ordinary and vanilla , as he described his poor wife , she seemed like she was just doing everything and going along with his ideas for a quiet life 💔

    • @stark8961
      @stark8961 Před 10 dny

      @@janecarroll5641 he is very vanilla

  • @nickinurse6433
    @nickinurse6433 Před 14 dny +4

    Melanie Denise really imitates Lori. She does the same face movements. If anyone's possessed I think these two are

  • @brendasanders4039
    @brendasanders4039 Před 15 dny +7

    Amend it. Those babies need justice.

  • @darlahkelley9800
    @darlahkelley9800 Před 14 dny +2

    Very Sick 😢Thank 😊 🙏 You Vinny ❤️ For Your 🙏 Reporting on Court TV 😢

  • @judycummings4059
    @judycummings4059 Před 14 dny +6

    The narcissism was already there in both Lori & Chad. Chad's "writin talent" made "fame" go to his head. Lori's male attention blew her up to fame in her own mind. Over confidence in both.

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 13 dny

      Yes! Classic case of delusions of grandeur by a psych0path (Chad) and a narcissist (lori)!!

  • @watchmeheal1176
    @watchmeheal1176 Před 15 dny +5

    I’m 5:05mins in and my jaw is on the GROUND!!! The way they discussed turning up the pain 🤯😤😠😡😢

  • @user-mf8jp2ud4c
    @user-mf8jp2ud4c Před 15 dny +7

    The children were found in Chads yard. Tools used in his garage. Window upstairs added on room looks over area where JJ and Tylee were found and all witnesses say basically same story. So we wait and see after defense witnesses testify and then verdict from jurors. I’m sure on needles and pins.

  • @michaelgerber3481
    @michaelgerber3481 Před 14 dny +2

    Vinnie, your intense sentiments are exactly as mine, all these unbelievable deaths cannot be reconciled. The guilty are just there in front of all of us. I observe this from the other side of the world, but this tragedy is horrific for many. May justice prevail. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @lauraa.e.5008
    @lauraa.e.5008 Před 14 dny +8

    You can't call either a mastermind since they're both sitting in prison.

  • @cyndieve6032
    @cyndieve6032 Před 15 dny +6

    I figured as Scott Reich did that when Lori went to the mental institute for over 9 months that she was bat s#@t crazy then I thought maybe they had got her on meds and she was able to help with her defense THEN watching her trial she was no help at all and it was left up to her defense attorneys whom hardlly objected throughout the trial THEN her last statement blew me away , she is still delusional . Here we are at Chads trial and he wasn't delusional at all , he just wanted Lori period without the kids . We all knew his defense was going to throw Lori and Alex under the bus and that's exactly what's happening. We know he told several women that they had been married in another life , I think he was having a mid life crisis and then he met Lori and its fantasy land . He was enjoying a good looking woman and all the power he thought he had , its disgusting and the smallest cult I've ever heard of . I hope he gets life like she did , he was the one giving this group all the answers so he will be held accountable for that . RIP Charles who btw I thought was a very handsome man , Tammy I hope she haunts him and those poor children Tylee and JJ ❤

  • @winged500
    @winged500 Před 15 dny +6

    What kind of defense can he have?

  • @skybee001
    @skybee001 Před 14 dny +2

    Seeing Chad sitting there with his arms crossed like a petulant child, with that pouty look on his face is hilarious, and so satisfying to me 😅😂

  • @hellekimery9537
    @hellekimery9537 Před 15 dny +4

    Is he no longer wearing a wedding band ? He really is throwing her under the bus,but really? What other defence does he have?

  • @SussexSandra
    @SussexSandra Před 15 dny +4

    sharonda’s viewpoints are really useful. But, it is difficult to hear what she is saying. Can someone in the technology team of Court TV help Sharonda out with her microphone? It’s really muffled and quiet.
    Apart from that little gripe, this was a great show. I was particularly fascinated in hearing from Adam Cox. His sister was a leader in a murderous cult and his brother committed several murders. He must be devastated. I hope he is getting all the support he needs.

  • @moniqueratelle-babin2155
    @moniqueratelle-babin2155 Před 14 dny +4

    Both culpable. I cant understand how she believed all that crap about light and dark. Its just beyond me!

  • @ingridbergman2583
    @ingridbergman2583 Před 15 dny +6

    Chuddy got a trip to Hawaii and prison.

  • @karolynknight931
    @karolynknight931 Před 15 dny +5

    These poor producers! So vile these texts

  • @loscrimefighter1899
    @loscrimefighter1899 Před 14 dny +2

    Chad, no matter the outcome of the trial, your true judgement awaits you. No cameras, no lawyers, no excuses.

  • @barbmurraybabss
    @barbmurraybabss Před 15 dny +11

    Who is the mastermind is really irrelevant

    • @jenniferlatham6935
      @jenniferlatham6935 Před 15 dny +2

      Not really. Especially if Chad didn't do the killing. Have to show involvement on his part....or in this particular case that it was Chad's idea.

    • @duchessmartinez2035
      @duchessmartinez2035 Před 15 dny

      It's is relevant, the death penalty is on the table.

    • @barbmurraybabss
      @barbmurraybabss Před 14 dny

      @duchessmartinez2035 no. The death penalty is for Tammy. Has nothing to do with Jj. Not relevant to the death penalty. Just saying

    • @emmyrose1802
      @emmyrose1802 Před 14 dny

      @@barbmurraybabsswhy is it just for Tammy. Genuinely curious.

    • @kimberlylucas3094
      @kimberlylucas3094 Před 14 dny

      It’s for all 3… the killing of more than 1… he is a serial killer…

  • @judycummings4059
    @judycummings4059 Před 14 dny +2

    No low self- esteem; just the opposite. Two narcissists.

  • @ndgrandma2124
    @ndgrandma2124 Před 15 dny +11

    The Slug who made Biblical claims was a tentacle of a Demon. Ritualistic dismemberment according to occult calendar. Occult sacrifices. November 5 just another ritualistic day on occult calendar.

    • @kati1669
      @kati1669 Před 15 dny +3

      👏👏👏💯💯 It's SO MESSED UP! Just think we prob only really know 1/2 the evil these people have done!

  • @pattydonohue5452
    @pattydonohue5452 Před 14 dny +2

    I live for Closing Arguments with Vinnie! I click so fast. Always speaks TRUTH!

  • @susangreenwood-hill2039
    @susangreenwood-hill2039 Před 14 dny +5

    Chad is the mastermind!! Lori was easy prey for him, she has one of those gullible personalities. Chad is a story teller and she bought it all. He is really dangerous.

  • @lindatx38garcia62
    @lindatx38garcia62 Před 15 dny +6

    So tired of seeing these two on t.v. ..with that dumb look on his face..he thinks he knows when the end will come..the court, jury and judge will tell him exactly when it's coming 🤣

  • @tonics7121
    @tonics7121 Před 15 dny +5

    Thanks! Love your reporting.

  • @TheZombieheadetsy
    @TheZombieheadetsy Před 15 dny +5

    Don’t say “perfect storm” 😬

  • @laurieg673
    @laurieg673 Před 14 dny +5

    If i was on the jury, I would vote guilty because of Pryor's courtroom antagonistic questioning.

    • @helencheung2537
      @helencheung2537 Před 14 dny +1

      Then you have no business ever being on any jury.

    • @laurieg673
      @laurieg673 Před 14 dny

      @@helencheung2537 I regularly serve. If you have a bad lawyer that wants to argue and be rude instead of defending you then expect jurors to doubt anything your lawyer presents.

  • @lianelindsey1407
    @lianelindsey1407 Před 15 dny +7

    Such a sad sad story!😞

  • @LofiandChilloutMusic
    @LofiandChilloutMusic Před 15 dny +6

    I wonder how Alex cox carried out the orders and who told him to do it , I hope there is evidence somewhere of exactly how this happened in detail , maybe there hidden texts or calls from Lori

    • @julesfromsydney
      @julesfromsydney Před 15 dny +2

      Alex Cox was as delusional as Lori. They were both heavily into all their religious beliefs for a long time including end of days theories. They both grew up in a Mormon household then as adults moved further into their own version of religious beliefs. It was also mentioned that Alex had an "inappropriate relationship with Lori" which was claimed by his first wife Debbie, who quickly divorced him when she realised this. Alex was seen as Lori's Hitman. He roughed up Lori's first husband Joseph Ryan then killed her husband Charles Vallow. Chad & Lori further convinced Alex that in a religious context that he was assigned by God to be Lori's protector. He was then coerced, under perceived instructions from Chad & Lori via God to attempt to murder Tammy and Brandon by shooting at them and then convinced to play his part in the murders of Tammy, Tylee & JJ. Alex was all in to this cult like environment with Chad at the helm and Lori by his side.

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    @gailruffu6073 Před 15 dny +9

    Book title: "Murder for Money"-by Chad and Lori Daybell.