DARTS FLIGHTS! Shape & angle of entry!
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- Do you want your darts to stand up in the board?
Are you looking to get them to lie flat so you can stack them?
I test 10 different flight shapes to see how each effect the angle of entry into the board!
I used medium stems, a mid grip and Robert Thornton 24g Darts. To see how I grip the darts, you can watch this video:
• How to hold a dart! TH...
Which shape do you use and how do they land in the board?
Matt Edgar's Video on the same subject:
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Let me know what shape flights you use, and how the flight / stem combo you use make your darts lie in the board!
Thank you!
Pears with shorts they lie nice and straight, unless you pull it and it lands downwards. If i go through a bad patch with pears i turn to kites, they give you more stability.
Current set up is 22g very slender barrels with intermediate stems and slim flights. I like a nice, flat landing.
Great video it’s interesting to get the perspective of a non-professional. I’ve tried the pear and slim, but the angle of entry just wasn’t right, so I’ve gone back to the good old medium prism stem with a standard flight. I’m using a 24g Winmau Paul Nicholson and they are the best set up I’ve ever had. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to your next one. 👍🎯
Having taken up Darts during the first lockdown, I’ve watched many you tube videos trying to pick up some tips. They all have excellent content but I have to say that yours are brilliant, especially the way you explain things aimed at someone like me who’s at beginner to medium level. I will definitely be subscribing to your channel. Thank you 👍🎯
Thank you Lee. I'm glad the videos have been helpful. Plenty more to come! 👍🎯
Superb video Bryn. Might look at getting a few of these 👍🏻🎯
I've been throwing with those Retina Velos flights lately, mostly because I think they look cool, haha. But yeah, they throw almost the same as standard flights for me, which is what I usually throw.
You’ve smashed 2K subs man haha love this, thanks for the great insights!
Informative content mate, keep up the good work.
I use 24g Target ALX 02's, short (34mm) stem and standard #2 flights, they go in slight incline. My old setup was 24g Winmau Tuscans with Vapors and medium Prism stem, go in completely flat
I'd always used medium stems with standard flights until I bought a new set of darts that came with vapour flights. I immediately fell in love with them. They're quite small and do lie flatter which, in effect, opens up the treble bed a bit.
Thank you 👍🎯
Just getting back into darts after a long while. Bought 3 diff lengths of stems and a pack of std, kite, pear, slim flights to mess about with and then stock up with some from there.
Good effort, clear explenation.
Great Video. I use Sniper darts with slim flights. Cheers
Really enjoyed this video, thanks Bryn. I switched from standard to oversize pear (specifically, the Winmau Beaton) around a month ago, and although the angle of entry isn't particularly "pretty", I seem to be getting better results, so I'm going to stick with them for now. Might get a set of Velos and Red Wing to play around with one day though, now that I've seen your video.
I was super impressed with the Velos. Out of the alternatives to standards, they had the best stability in the air. Size of them though might mean a compromise on being able to group as well 🎯
Short stem with standard flight, straight in/flat. I like to stack them.
I'm a front gripper and use extra short stems with pear flights but just started trying kite shape, going alright, use 21g darts, great video and now I'm a subscriber
Thank you callum. I appreciate the sub and the info on your setup! 👍🎯
I use Cuesoul Rost flights and stem combo. Medium length stems and standard shaped flights. My darts sit straight and up into board.
You are by far my favorite INSTRUCTOR( no kidding)..With your lessons, I have managed to really upset my fellow dart buddies.. I started using the V-wings in all my set ups some time ago and to say the least, I consider them a cut above the rest
Thank you so much. Comments like this make it worthwhile. Keep up the progress!
Thank you for the informative video
Thanks for this video, I found it really helpful and interesting 👌
Thank you for watching! I wanted to make it for a while as I wanted an excuse to try some of these!
Excellent video 👍 I currently use Cosmo size 2 stems with the slimmest pear flights (D1) and get a very flat angle on them, sometimes I can barely see where the dart has landed they're pointing directly to my line of sight. I've done the same as you and pissed off a DC picker with one of each of the cheapest sets of flights to make my own test pack, I got exactly the same results. I did use Vapor S for a while but gave up because of too many Robin Hoods. Keep up the good work
Cheers Andy. Great info... Any darts I start Robin hooding with are no good for me. Can't stand the idea of wasted darts!
Reversed V Wings - for that savage angle of attack on the leading edges as they slide up the air.
Good video...
Thanks
I’ve used the velos with medium stems and had a bit of success. Nice video
Cheers Mark. They seem so stable in flight. I think they'd be a good option for a lot of darters
Great video. I tend to use intermediate alicross stems and standard flights. I do like kite flights in certain sets I have.
Nice one! Thank you Stuart 👍🎯
What stem and flight combo would you suggest for a more looping throw to get them to stand up more?
I've used the harrows velos on a smooth designa dart, very fun 2 use
Great video I just play for fun but always will try sumthing
Nice vid 👍
Excellent video. I can't seem to find the last one on darts corner website red wing? I've found v wing. Cheers
Find myself back on one of your videos again! Funny enough a few bits arrived today. My darts were sitting up WAY too much so I got some aluminium stems and pear flights, sitting almost dead level with no change to the grip at all. £1.20 well spent
Nice one thank you Charlie. Sounds like they'd be much more effective if you're looking to stack the darts 👍🎯
Great interesting video Bryn
Thanks Alan mate 👍🎯
Appreciated this vid a lot! I'm at an experimental point in my darts and plan to try out the vapor and the mini's (as well as different stems). Also getting some grip as I have a few too many flyers
Glad it was helpful! Out of interest, what darts are you going to use that have more grip? I love a grippy dart! 👍🎯
@@DartsClass ah no, sorry, I mean like a grip to have in your pocket to give your fingers more grip - called Mission Grip Wax.
Should do another one of these videos but using the different flights with some different stems or length of stem be interesting to see
Does medium stem spinning gyro shaft and ordinary/common shape flights really matters to have a straight path of throwing darts?
Is there really such a combination for the 24g pin?
Thanks in advance.
That was really interesting thanks for taking the time to do that! I've tried the Velos flights, I'm sure all they are doing is giving you the equivalent of a longer stem by moving the centre of area back a bit?
Yeah that's a good way of explaining them. I liked them, but wouldn't change to them. They seemed stable enough in flight though!
What do you reckon about the number 6 flights compared to pear and kite?
Great video mate
Thank you
I use number 6 standards with a short stem, couldn't get on with Pears or Kites, thinking of trying the final 2 flights you used in the video, I do like Harrows flights, enjoyed the video
Thank you mate 👍🎯
I use Vortex, a foil flight similar to a Maestro. Flights with tails seem to stabilize better.
Nice video mate really enjoyable , nice 180 mate think they'll be your new set up
Thanks for watching Tomas! Haha not going to change to them myself, but an interesting experiment! 👍🎯
Great upload, Ive used velos flights before but found i destroy the flight quite quickly lol Currently using #2 standard Robinsons with short stems. Has a slight to flat entry in the board. Cheers 🍻
Thank you 👍🎯
what are the length of your barrel and shaft?
I use short stems and No6 flights if I want them to be flater
This video came out just in time, testing other flights i use standard, but ordered minis, velox and maestro, with medium stem, do have short so will try both.
Good timing! Let me know how you get on!
Ok tryed all sorts went with slims, played 40avg switched to the maestro's was awesome 70 avg and they seemed to fly so straight for me. Just ordered alot
Nice one 🎯👍
How do i make my darts stand up with short stems and slim flights with 55mm darts
Funny to think that something as simple as throwing a dart out of your hand is unique to all throwers...add the flights and all other external factors its remarkable.
I personally use the Harrows Graflite Vwing
I had since spiral flights back in the 90s, the theory was that they made the dart spin and fly straighter. I had a quick look for some recently but I couldn't find any, have you seen them?
Slim flight gang reporting in. Use Medium grips and have a mid-rear grip. Darts land almost flat, perfect for stacking.
Thank you mate. As I thought. Seems to be the best setup and flight for stacking!
@@DartsClass medium stems*
Excellent video. I really liked the camera angle showing the entry angle. Would you consider doing a similar video using your usual darts and flights, but with the various lengths of stems?
Thank you. Yes, that was the original plan for this video, to do each with 3 different length stems... But would've been about an hour long! Haha 🎯
@@DartsClass I use medium stems and standard Harrows flights currently. I believe I have what you referred to as a "loopy" throw. I'm very curious to see how the stem length affects the dart entry, but only with your usual flights.
I play pear L-Style flights cause I like them to stuck flat in the board but I also like the Velos 🎯
I’ve just bought a set of Phil THE POWERRR Taylor darts at 22 grams as I want a flatter landing and with the light darts I feel as if I lose control
I use intermediate stems and standard flight but because of this video I really want to try slims
Slims are certainly the ones that will give you the best stability in flight if you're looking for your darts to lie flat... Certainly out of the ones I tested at least 👍🎯
He’s class, reminds me of a darts Derren brown
Another good informative vid. I use short harrow dimplex and Standard or kite flights
Thank you. What angle do your darts go in?
@@DartsClass very slight angle up
I use kite's with an extra short stem. I pull the dart straight back to my eye, so longer stems hit my face. My darts go into the board almost flat with just a bit of uptick.
Thanks Wilmer
4 times the subs a year later, great job man
Thanks for all this information. I’m a new dart player and i’m desperately looking for tips to improve my accuracy and consistency. I keep changing the flights and can’t find something i like so i will have to try your suggestions.
Practice will be the biggest thing work on the form and don't forget the weight of your darts affect alot of how you use it I'm no pro but get a weight that you feel good at and stick with that until you improve remember nobody was born a good player put the time in and you will see results
So here's my dilemma. Currently I use standard flights on a 23gram dart. I'm on the short side 5'7" so I tend to have to arc my throws up to the higher numbers. I notice a pronounced arc in my throws for the top and middle half of the board and a flatter trajectory for the lower half of the board. I find that the additional arcing adds one more variable to maintaining accuracy. Mind you, I haven't been playing long and have a long way to go before I can play competitively. Do you think a slimmer dart will help me with aiming?
I'm the same height as you and also arc the dart at anything higher than the bullseye.
It's natural at anything below your eyeline has less of an arc and more of a direct trajectory, I'm exactly the same so don't worry about that, but if you can try to maintain a consistent throw and allow a bit more arc into the low areas by slightly slowing down the speed of your throw.
You're always good enough to play competitively, my advice is to just start doing it. Even if you lose often, you'll improve greatly with any type of match experience 👍🎯
So I take it the slims travel the fastest through the air?
Great video mate. Nice 180 at the end. 👍
Haha wasn't it! Thank you for watching until the end!
I’ve had 3 years of no darts. Just started playing last month hit a 180 last week. I’ve got the bug again. Love the vids mate. Definitely going to try some of those flights out.
Awesome stuff. Its great when you've got the bug and all you can think about is playing!
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I'm a middle of the road, standard flight, standard stem kind of guy. Tried slims and kites a couple of months back....eeek!😖 Please tell me you have given the winged flights more of a work out since to see if they are as good as they seemed during that test.
I have... And can confirm that the 180 was a fluke. Although I maintain they were much more stable in flight that a lot of the others
i actually trim my slims 2.5 mms and found out a lot faster and straighter
Not going to lie, I expected a statistics nerd to have a protractor set up and plot some nice charts 😆 good vid mate ✌🏼
I did think about doing it a bit more scientifically but in the end just went to try and convey the general angle. Thanks for watching bud 👍🎯
I use short stems with kite flights currently, changed from medium stems and standard flights. I find that I’m a little more accurate with my current set up, scoring better and finishing better, but what I am finding since I have changed to kites and short stems is I’m Robin Hooding a hell of a lot more, like at least once every session, whereas I never really did it before, it’s kind of annoying, because I’m destroying stems at a rapid rate 😂
If there's one thing I hate it's Robin hoods... Wasted darts! Do you whole punch your flights?
@@DartsClass no, I’ve never really understood what those flight punches were for 😂
They don't completely eliminate Robin hoods but reduce them drastically and make your stems last 10 times longer. Worth the small £5 investment in one. I thoroughly recommend them
Always used short stem with standard flight. Never really experiment with different flights
Mee too, I should have when I first started... but now I never change. Most of those I was throwing for the first time!
Please comfirm to me the last set of flights you used thanks
Apologies, I got it wrong in the video, they're called V Wing flights 👍
my darts always land lower than what i target to hit haha. any tips on the shaft length and flight shape i should use to get my darts to land higher? haha im guessing shorter shafts and kite flight? also, any thoughts on fit shaft/flights and L shafts/flights?
Do you mean that you are landing below the treble 20 a lot?
yea
I throw 30g, 1.5" carbon shaft, standard flights.... they're really nice when ive had a few drinks and get a little heavier handed, i throw pretty hard so the tips on everything from 26-30 are always about 50% inside the board..... i do want to get a lighter set though, in fact i was looking to collect these parts for my kit
24, 26, 28, 30g barrels
1.5, 1.75, 2" carbon shafts, and aluminum spinner shafts
Various cool looking standard and maybe slim flights
Im also no pro player, only really just started, but i was invited out for 2 days before i bought a set so the guys would share their sets and one guy had 30g other had 26g and ive found i can throw both sets comfortably depending on how im feeling that day..... and i actually won 2 games today out of 4 with the 30g darts and being my 3rd day, id say thats not too bad
I'm having a hard time finding more
Apparently Harrows has discontinued this flight
If you know where I can purchase more please let me know
Thank You
Great Video 👍
I'll keep an eye out for them 👍🎯
@@DartsClass Greatly Appreciated 👍🎯
Edgar's wasn't a good video for me though, im hoping your content will help. What's your thoughts on dimplex flights?
Noice vid bud. I try to run through a variety in my reviews as people use all sorts! Gonna stick with the red wings?!? Haha 😛
Haha tempting. Had another throw with them today and it was not as successful! Fluke!
@@DartsClass hahaha typical! At least a 180 for the vid!
True! Wish it wasn't at the end though... Most people probably turned off by then haha
I'm playing phil taylor vapor s flights an red dragon nitro stems
Very informative! Would it be possible to do a similar video about the different stem lengths to compliment this one?
I just started playing a couple of months ago, so I'm experimenting with different stem lengths and flights. I thought I was using kite flights, but this video showed that I was actually using fantail flights lol.
That was the original plan for this video, to do one of each length of stem with each flight, it would've just been an insanely long video and taken forever to record. I think I might split them all out though and do it as a series. Thank you for watching!
I use kite
I've started on the red Wings great ones they are good stacking flights
I like kites and the smaller of the standard shape, no2?
They certainly travel the the board quicker, so if you throw hard rather that with an arc they might be good for you 👍🎯
Medium stems standard flights for me. My darts sit up I have tried other shape flights but they all sit terribly in the board and fly all over the place
Cheers Sean
It would have been better if you had your video camera on a horizontal flat across from the trip 20.
Your Dart space looks like you're playing in prison counting down the days😂
Sometimes it feels like that at the moment haha
Hey! My darts sit in the board with the flight poking out to the left and the point to the right. I use small stems and standard flights. But what I want to know is what am I doing wrong that is making the darts sit in that position in the board??
It's hard to explain without showing you... It will be because on release you are forcing your hand down. Make sure your release of the dart is when you're throwing up, and then you can follow through with the downward motion after. Just sounds like you're releasing late and pushing the dart down 👍🎯
@@DartsClass thanks for the tip. I’ll practice throwing a little earlier and release the dart whilst in the upwards motion then as the dart is released allow the follow through to naturally happen. Thanks mate.
Great Video however I would have liked it better if you had used different stem sizes to really show the difference
I was going to, but it would've taken forever! I may do another with different sized stems to show the difference 👍🎯
@@DartsClass Nice 1 I'll look forward to it. I think a lot of beginners underestimate the stem/flight combo
No matter what flight/stem combo I use they stand up! I throw very aggressively Aswell... very strange
Where do you grip the dart? At the rear of the barrel?
@@DartsClass nope at the very front... it’s very very weird literally every way I hold them it’s the same as well it doesn’t make sense... I do like the way they lie so it’s no problem but very weird... I actaully play to an ok standard Aswell averaging 75-80
I use the Harrows ice darts with a standard flight. The darts are 23g and sit in the board with the barrel angled downward, so the opposite to how yours lie. I am a beginner but love my darts and hate how they sit in the board. I have managed a few 180s but the flight through the air is wobbly.
Thanks Mike. The angle of entry YOU have might be due to your grip and how hard you throw. Do you grip the darts at the front of the barrel? 👍🎯
@@DartsClass I Do grip at the front. I just found that more comfortable and natural. I will have a go holding the dart further back to test entry etc. Thanks for the reply 😄 Your videos are great, keep up the good content 👍
Holding the front of the barrel with anything other than a short stem might make the dart seem 'wobbly' in flight so it might be worth shortening the stems or a mid grip. The main thing is when you hold the dart before you throw, your grip should be at the point of balance for the darts as a whole. If you test this by slightly loosening your grip you'll see if it see-saws backwards or forwards. 👍🎯
@@DartsClass brilliant, will give it a go. 👍🙏😁
Is that you're man cave? i like the pins, whats the brand name and weigth?
Hey do you have a brother? Is he in Western Australia?
I wish! It would make the visa process I'm going through right now a lot easier if I had an Australian brother!
U cant cpmpare a flights with your score. Maybe second try or 3rd could be better...
Flights have nothing to do with it