Making a Mold for Soft Plastic Lures
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2017
- So I needed a way to make my own type of top water frog the Tiki Toad made by Wave Worms. Although Wave Worms is still going strong and is a great lure company...they no longer produce the Tiki Toad, which in my personal opinion is the best 4" top water frog ever made. So I finally got around to making the mold to make my own for personal use!
Equipment used:
Alumilite Vac-50 (mold material):
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Alumisol (lure material):
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Paint stir drill adapter:
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Cheap paintbrushes:
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If you are into soft plastic bait creation be sure to check out my current videos, I actually somewhat know what I'm doing nowadays lmao.
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Do you remember if the cork anchor void when you did your first pour; if it was solid or a hollow piece of plastisol?
It was solid towards the baits but hollow at the top, I probably poured a bit too hot and didn't cap the spru hole with extra plastisol to fill the void. Also the spru is way too big for this but...first time. Good learning experience.
Revamped Outdoors thank you for your response!
Revamped Outdoors probably best to have a larger pour berth than too small and risk it going everywhere but the mold. Anyways nice job!
True, in some of my new stuff I have designed in smaller diameters and it leads to denting on larger lures because the plastisol loses heat too quick and sets up so the lure cavity cannot pull in new material quick enough from the spru column.
It is a joy talking with a fellow maker
Likewise, your setup sounds very impressive! Some day I'll get there, as long as the projects keep coming it might take awhile though lol. Happy thanksgiving!
That awesome! I laughed pretty good.
Good work 👍🏻
Thanks, I have since figured it out a little better but still use this mold a couple times a year!
Its very helpful to have your injector sitting in hot water warming up before you suck in the plastic. It makes a world of difference when injecting and it keeps the plastic from hardening too fast
Never want to mix water with hot plastic
ZZ430T56 I just watched another video and that is how that guy softened the plastic he used but why not explain your statement so we know what your reason for not mixing them is?
Water will make it pop, foam and can explode (steam). All additives to plastisol must be oil based. Scents, colorant, etc
plastisol is 175 celsius, water boils at 100 celsius and steams at around 110.
Slick! I've been thinking of attempting to make my own soft plastic mold, I like using frogs myself, but I also like these big 7-inch lizards I ordered off of eBay. I may have to save one or two for a host mold.
Nice! Frogs are so much fun getting those exciting #topwater bites. If you're interested in mold making I'm doing a bunch for all of July on the channel, might be worth checking out!
I think this is the first time I have watched a mold making video where the youtuber has used the actual bait that they are wanting to mold.
Maybe that's why it became popular lol it definitely was not my skills back then lol. If you're interested in this kind of thing I have a lot more recent videos where I have the process much more refined. Thanks for the comment and watching!
Edit: I'm going to add another lol because I didn't have enough in the original comment.
Yep and thats not a bad idea
Good job Man
Thanks, I've come a long way since this video lol, but at least it works enough.
Nicely done. First home made molds I've seen that used some form of alignment pins.
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with it other than a little more material to make the mold than I thought!
Revamped Outdoors Nice job 👍 they came out sweet. One tip that I found for saving mold material is making the container for the mold custom sized to fit whatever you are doing. You only need like a 1/4" of mold surrounding the item. The best material I have found is that corrugated plastic sign board from staples ( you know it looks like corrugated cardboard but plastic) cut it to exact specs. with a ruler and razor knife and tape it together with aluminum foil tape. You could have got away with using less then half of what you used. It saves money because that Aluma isn't cheap.
Thanks for the tips! Now that I have a 3d printer I've been printing custom sized mold forms it seems to be working a lot better!
Thanks. Good video now I need to make one for a discontinued worm I love.
For sure, I don't know why they discontinue the stuff that works.
I made my injector out of a cake decorator when i was 14 ,30years later its still working
I've always wondered about that! The only ones I can find locally anymore are the cheap ABS plastic ones. I wish I could find a nice metal one I would have a bunch of injectors, I could use one a bit smaller and a bit larger! It's like anything else I suppose there's always something to make!
Same to you sir
The important thing is your happy 😊😳✌🏻🎣
Meta truth bomb.
Could you use plaster to make the mold, or would it be too brittle? I want to mold some lures but don’t have what your using. I was also thinking of just using 100% silicone from a caulk.
I've tried plaster a few times it is pretty brittle for anything to make more than 1 or 2 baits. I have since switched to a hard silicone called mold max 60, I've been getting good results with it so far. You could always get a little less tough silicone and it would work too just have to be careful how much you clamp it together. If you're interested in bait making it might be worth it to check out some of my newer videos, I like to think they are much better than this one lol.
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Revamped Outdoors
Thanks for the response I will find some better silicone or buy what you used, and check your newer or “better” vids lol.
It was made out of 4”box tubeing with removable cap
I used a big soda straw for my tree and coffee staws to come off the tree and to the baits
Nice! I definitely went to big on the chamber and sprew channels. Meh i just combine all the excess and repour so it's not the end of the world.
Where did you buy the vac master 50 at? I’ve tried 3 times to buy from lureworks. Alumilite wants $27 to ship 🤯
I did get from alumilite buy maybe they increased their ship cost now, not sure.
legend!
Lol I don't know about that but I'm just glad it sort of worked.
I wonder if you could make the air vent the size of a thread and one leg only
The smaller the vent it seems it clogs up quicker, with the plastisol ive been using so far 1/8 vents seem to do the trick.
Where can I buy this stuff at? I’m having a really hard time finding it!
The vac 50 can be found at alumilite, hopefully they still have some.
I understand this is a old vid but I was wondering how the finish is ? I use plaster molds right now and I hate the finish, I need something that is shiny and smooth like a aluminum mold but I don't want to go and pay 400 bucks on a custom aluminum mold
Yup, definitely more shine than plaster not quite as miuch as polished Aluminum, I've tried using all of those types before what I've found is that spraying oil on the mold first seems to help. You could also try coating the inside in a high temp epoxy or fiberglass resin.
I just bought a cnc-made aluminum mold from Angling AI for $132, shipping included, that makes five 6.25” worms. The mold bolts together and has great details and ultra smooth finish.
Great video. Too funny.
Yeah it's great to leave the old stuff up to see how far I've come, of course youtube loves to push this video specifically. Funny how that works. I'm designing original baits from scratch now and making two piece injection molds in 16 hours but CZcams is like watch this guy fumble through this lol.
I'm sorry, but new plastic baits
are about $6.00 at Cabellas!
True but not discontinued or your own orginal designs like I have started doing. But yes, soft plastics from the store catch fish.
James Wegman in the long run this will save you money
Wich lubricant you juse for Vac 50?
Sorry I didn't see the notification that you commented! I used the UMR (universal mold release) spray for the release agent with the VAC 50 seems to do the job pretty well. I am not sure what the base lubricant is for the UMR but whatever it is it seems to work well.
I made an air powered injector that worked real good
Nice! With a standard air compressor? I could see that being a fun project.
I used a foot powered pump you didnt need more then 10psi
Unvailling a mold was like cristmas and if every thing came out ok it was even better
It is a nice little shot of feel good when it actually works!! Another shot of feel good when a fish actually likes it too!
Walmart has plenty of them
Maybe they started producing again
Yeah Paul at WaveWorms has had to restructure the business so he got rid of a few baits. Good guy, wish things worked out better for him. Was talking to him about being Pro Staff for him, but with everything happening gonna hold off. He stopped making my favorite color as well, blue/chart swirl 4" tiki sticks.
The Blind Fisherman if he brought the tiki toad back I would buy by a lot of packs. Just haven't seen frog action that good out of other baits.
I understand that man! I swear I literally have the very last pack of the blue/chart 4" tiki sticks in existence. I tried searching the internet high and low for em but can't. He'll make special orders BUT it has to be a HUGE number. It's like a 5-600 dollar minimum
Can I use this video with a credit to you of course
Sure
@@RevampedOutdoors Thank you 👍
Do you are anyone you know sell beaver bug molds I really want to make my own but I am low budget because I spent all my money on AirPods like a month ago
I know there are a few good beaver style bait molds out there but most from the youtube space are pretty expensive. It looks like all the beaver bug molds online are sold out everywhere, I hope you can source one soon! Sorry I couldn't help more.
Do you know anyone that sells molds for trick worms?
I found this link that should help out, www.tackleunderground.com/community/topic/33098-trick-worm-mold/
Aluminum molds are nice and strong but they are always so expensive that I just end up making my own.
You never sprayed the master with enough mold release. Nice tho. That stuff aint cheap. Quart of fiberglass resin is alot cheaper tho and does same thing.
Yeah I tried to do it off camera outside but you're right I don't think I got enough to stick. Thanks for the fiberglass suggestion, I'm working on another related project now. I'll look into using that for it.
Spray with PAM...I use it all the time!
Hey, I was curious about how many molds do you think you could make with the vac 50 5lbs kit?
If you did it correctly like I do now and not like I did then, i think you could get 10, 1 cavity molds easily. I would not advise doing it so large like I did here, end up wasting a lot of material.
If you made singles you could have gotten three molds.
where did you get the beater ?
If you're talking about the mixer at 7:50 , I picked that up at my local hardware store. They are pretty cheap and you can reuse them quite a few times, I think I got that on for like $5 or so. You can also find them online for pretty cheap, searching for paint mixer for drill brings up a few good options. Hope this helps!
@@RevampedOutdoors ahh ok i tought it was something 3D printed, was on my way to ask for STL file 🤣
Now I do use a couple of 3d printed ones if you have a printer, my favorite is this one from thingiverse, the designer did a great job and dowels are cheap and easy to cut to size. Paint Mixer 3/8 Dowel found on #Thingiverse www.thingiverse.com/thing:2628184
@@RevampedOutdoors Thanks! :)
I like to make my molds out of silicone rubber it cuts out flashing
Yeah in my new stuff I've switched to using Mold Max 60 from smoothon, seems to work really well so far and is about 1/3 the price of the vac 50. Also have been making more precise boxing to save on material.
Release agent is your friend. Use liberally!
I was working on a way to stir it without losing air pressure but i got bad sick and am in a nursing home now
That's unfortunate, I hope you are doing better. To mix maybe something like a rotisserie or something, mine cools so fast that I don't think I'm quick enough!
The air powered injector sat on the stove with the injetion spout hanging off the side ,the only problem was gliter settled to the bottom i made a lot of smoke twisters with black glitter
I think big air vents are the cause of dents in finished baits
I could see that, if the bait cools too fast then the air pocket causes a recess in the plastisol. This one doesn't seem too bad, I end up getting maybe 1 out of 10 that looks ridiculous. But for personal use I think that average isn't too bad.
use a wood dowel instead of fishing rod cork, it will work a lot better.
For sure! I've moved on to 3d printing now but that cork was a stupid move for sure.
look up buzz toads they still make them
Got a link? I'm only seeing buzz baits returned on a search for buzz toads.
I found tons of them on eBay
I've got a few boxes, you can find them a lot but my experience is they're in the more unnatural colors. I've heard that he will still mold them but only for huge orders, maybe most of what is sold now is still remaining new old stock.
I used plywood backer boards on my molds
Do you finish the plywood to reduce the porous nature of the wood? The vac 50 and now mold max 60 seems to get into all cracks and crevices. I've been 3D printed the mold cases lately seems to work a lot better.
The plywoods just for clamping pads on the outside of the mold
Revamped Outdoors i used pam cooking spray in garlic to spray my molds before shooting
@@billallmon4094 ah, that makes sense, the pam spray is a lot more affordable than that silicone spray.
This dude is breathing hard 😀
Well it's exciting.
@@RevampedOutdoors lol. I love you for that. I catch myself doing the same shit
They make them still
I've heard has to be huge orders, their website is blank for the Tiki Toad, I've seen resellers selling new old stock but not on their website. Unless you know how to get them otherwise?
Ya they are sold by a different company and they work a bit better in my opinion
How bout dem apples
I heard they're Gala
pro tip: watch from toilet so there's no need for pausing
you should learn to use gelatin powder to make your lures, you know of the problem with micro plastic,s in the environment and there,s another problem if a fish take,s your bait and escapes this plastic will not breake down in it''s stomach and they die hard, not to mention it get into the food chain... here in Britain where we catch and release they lost prize fish because of fishing gear, lead weights were a problem with wild fowler and now plastic lures. Gelatin is far better anyway cheaper, easy to colour sparkle up with cake decorations you can use flavor with fish oils and the best part no micro waves EMF or toxic substances to mix
Thanks for the suggestion I'll look into it! There are some more biodegradable options as well that I may try and get a hold of.
cool, hope it work,s out, maybe a video, there is a lot of biodegradable tackle Hooks and line Eagle Claw’s new Bioline and some lurers www.artoffishing.co.uk/biodegradable this is going to be big BIG
Can you provide more details about using gelatin powder? I’d like to try it.
I have been researching this for a few years, unless jimsim had an alternative I have not found anything that I would deem capable of competing with current plastisol. I have contacted some of the leaders in degradable plastics and have not had any reasonable responses. The companies do not even sell their plastic for home pour, I have tried multiple times to get companies to sell me their product to use in my molds but they refuse. They are worried about competition I suspect which is valid. I have seen home recipes but every one I try either is too hard or dissolves too quick to be anything more than one use.
If anyone had recipes that hold up for more than 1 week in a hot tackle box I would love to try them out.
@@rbhughbanks Ocean Park Fish sea Animals Sweets Mix Gummy Fruity Halal.... you just boil them down and remould or us jelly worms sweets most fish are ambush predator or frenzying feeders, and if they are feeding they in competition, just thread a gummy sweet eel or worm a silver fishing hook, when you hook a fish then you use it for bait when your fishing bottom feeding fish.
;) i gotta pee, brb
Hydration is the key to success the video is so long you won't even have to pause you won't miss much.
I cost me $1.99at winndixy
It held 3cups of plastic
That's a serious amount of plastic!
lol
We all have to start somewhere, if you're into this kind of thing I have some newer stuff that is a little more well produced pouring soft plastics.
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what a waste of allumilite , you should be able to do at 5 other molds with such quantity ;)
I dont even use alumalite anymore too expensive. I agree though. This mold still works great though.
Too much work