Duran defence was awesome in this fight. Was able to use lead leg as an obstacle with bladed stance by closing off distance cutting down foot space for Leonard to get his combos off. He would square up on inside but only after stifling Leonard’s attacks. He also utilized the 1-2 effectively but in the 12 Leonard started to land some hellacious body shots on inside especially left liver shots. Amazing stuff by both legends
Ray was touted as the new Ali, American media did everything in their power to build him up as such. Howard and the boxing community helped Ray get the Title back, bribing an unprepared Duran to fight when he could not be ready and then telling the world Duran quit because Ray had him totally confused. Brainwashing at it's finest.
Here is another saying Cosell is calling this fight! Cosell's slow drawl is very distinctive, and anyone who ever actually heard him call a fight couldn't mistake it for someone else's.. Again, while Cosell introduced the fight, Bill Mazer and the "fight Dr." Ferdie Pacheco were the two calling the fight.
why would i watch any other version of this fight lol...i just watched the other version til like round 6 found this and here i am starting over its worth it
I don't think the decision was ever disputed by anyone other than that Italian judge who scored 10 rounds even. But I had it for Duran by about 4 rounds.
I love Duran , He just looked like a Bad ass A gladiator. Not as fast as Sugar , not as big, but his heart and will in this fight were just amazing. looks like the tazmanian devil
Durans speed is underrated. He was very fast and had good defense as well. But in this fight he demonstrated perfectly how to cut the ring. Boxing is all about the feet/legs and Duran was a master of to this. Also look at his body shots on Ray. Notice how he puts his hips into those punches. He hit him with lot of very hard shots. A lesser fighter might have folded in the late rounds but Ray kept fighting back. Ray just did not have the power of Duran. The amazing think is Duran was a lightweight moving up to fight the bigger man here.
After Duran left or vacated his title at Lightweight he moved up to Welter he was always the smaller fighter from that point on in every fight, including Sugar Ray. Sugar proved he had a chin and a warriors heart in this fight for sure, though really Sugar had proven it against wilfredo Benitez a year earlier.This is one of the best fights in history where both were in top condition and prepared to battle.
Wilfredo was not much of a test if we are being honest. He was a great counter puncher and had great defense. He did not have a lot of power though. I had Ray way ahead before it was stopped in the 15th round. Yes it was stopped a little to quick but Benitez never complained. He knew he had been beat that night.
@@markdunham9949 I don't know about that. He won maybe 4 rounds and even Ray said he was the hardest person to hit he ever fought. Ray's punches were harder though and Ray totally took over by the later rounds.
I agree. I remember we could watch world class boxing championship fights at 4:30 pm . All the great classics. I remember watching a lot of Alfredo Escalera and the dancing snake in the ring when they played the drums , Salvador Sanchez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler’s two nemesis Hamsho and Vito Auntefermo, etc. Just great memories of being a child in the 70’s and teen in the 80’s....
It was a cool show and featured things like cliff diving, rock climbing and my favorite the lumberjack competition. I can still hear the intro and picture the the guy in the skies having the huge crash when the words "agony of defeat" were said.
This broadcast was the first time I saw this fight. I had been a Duran fan for a while, but this fight had me mesmerized from start to finish...both great Champions!
Duran para muchos fue inspiración ya que fue a boxear con los mejores y se fajo como hombre. Nunca se vendió por plata. Ej Canelo sus peleas son arregladas y Chavez puros bultos para llegar a 80 peleas sin perder, porque no fue a boxear con Leonard o Irán Barkley q eran más o menos de su edad, por miedoso. Viva Duran..
Can you upload the opening sequence to Season 5 of the PBS music program Austin City Limits from 1980? We open on a shot of the Austin, Texas skyline as the camera pulls away. Then, it shows a truck coming in and driving down the road, passing a house with "HOWDY" written on it, backing up the cattles, waving at a cowboy riding on a horse, a shot of a longhorn, man jumping out of the fence as a truck comes in, people getting in the back of a truck, woman laughs while a man drives, and the people sitting in the back of a truck with a dog next to it. In between the truck scenes, there's a man lifting a baby up in the air against the waters of Barton Springs, a shot of the green rolling hills, the Texas state capital, people at street fairs, armadillo races, and picturesque pleasures. We cut to a man laughing in the back of a truck, a shot of the truck driving down the road, woman smiling with her hair blowing, a shot of a landscape on a truck's window, camera pans up from the cactus to see a truck driving down the road, camera pans up from the water to see a truck driving through a bridge, truck getting splashed with water, woman and a man driving down the road, a shot of the road with the Austin skyline, back of the truck driving by as a guy waves his arm up in the air, camera pans to the left to see the Austin City Limits sign, and the camera zooming in on the Austin City Limits sign. Then, the Austin City Limits sign morphs into photographs of that evening's performance, whereas it zooms in to reveal the performance.🙂
I generally like Cosell's commentating but the comments are right he did bad here.....made the fight boring sounding....having 1 guy too is a bad idea it's not as bad as earlier decades(a left and a right and a right and a left right) Duran at his best here testosterone still high still young but lots of experience....
Leonard holding more than fighting! Questions about referee from Duran's handlers seems to have Leonard believing he has carte blanche. And he may be right. Referee should start taking points away from Leonard for holding, but the Ref seems afraid to do his job in that area.
Una pelea demasiado elogiada, pero que evidencia que ninguno de los dos tenía buena pegada, porque fueron 15 rounds y ninguno salió realmente lastimado. Nada que ver con Pacquiao, Inoue, Chávez, Sánchez, etcétera. La segunda pelea fue peor.
In terms of stamina and raw energy this has gotto be the fight that's sets the ultimate unfortunately Leonard who no doubt proved his class should never have tried to out brawl DURAN it was a huge mistake which I'm sure every one realized because Duran was simply out performing him and never really looked in trouble once through out the fight.
On the inside, I saw Leonard holding Duran's gloves more than Duran was holding. So trash the holding excuse. I've watched this fight approx. 20 times. I've never once scored it for Leonard. All close unanimous for Duran. No controversy!
He did land a lot of body shots on Duran. Durans body shots had way more power though. Look at the legs and hips. Duran was pounding the body hard. Ray was landing good also but it was more arm punches. I credit Ray for lasting the 15 rounds because he took some punishment.
Leonard looked like he was already defeated before the fight, he did not have confidence in himself. In his book he said that he didn't prepare perfectly as well, and that will show in confidence.
Ray was scared, his own wife said so. Ray was hoping for a rolly polly Duran, instead, he saw a primed Duran in top condition, unlike New Orleans. Ray was hoping for the uninspired Duran, he got the best of Duran in Montreal and Ray knew it was going to be hell. Ray was fully prepared, just very intimidated and didn't know how to handle it.
@@chrisjackson8299 why would he have been? Ray knew Duran was in no condition to give Ray a tough fight. Why do you think he started to mock him? He knew there was nothing there, Duran made weight, but he was a shadow of his true self, just the way Ray wanted it and Ray gave up most of his purse to Duran's handlers to get them to convince Duran to sign for a fight everyone knew he could not be ready for. What kind of champ wants to fight his biggest rival when his rival was nowhere his best? Only a coward would do that. Ray admitted it multiple times, that his 'strategy' was to get an ill prepared Duran in the ring. Yes, Ray was so scared to fight a well conditioned Duran, that he waited another 10 yrs before he would fight him a 3rd time. Yeah, real honorable guy huh?
Just wondering and this is many many years after the fight but did anyone catch the fact that Howard cosell pretty much told Duran the strategy that Leonard was going to use do you think that had anything to do with the fight I do watching the beginning Howard tales Duran strategy he sort of dry snitched like an extra coach
Interesting lol. Reality is the refs job isn't to keep one fighter off another, it's to break clinches and make sure combat is "clean". This fight came down to Ray and his desire to defeat Roberto at his own game. In my view, this fight was close and could have gone either way. Main thing standing out is that Roberto did hurt Ray in the second round and I don't see a round where Ray clearly hurt Duran.
@@eugenemcgirt2357 Ray had to fight Duran 'at his own game'. Watch the interview with Ray and Howard in studio after the fight. Ray told Howard that HE COULD NOT MOVE, DURAN WASN't ALLOWING IT. Ray was forced to fight Duran, otherwise, he would have been KO'd. Duran hurt Ray in a lot of rounds, judges had it too close. The fake Ray version of events were 1) Ray wanted to fight Duran at close qrts. = wrong, Ray says it to Howard right here on this vid, that he couldn't move, Duran wouldn't allow it. 2) that Ray fought his 'dancing style' and this is why he won the 2nd fight. = wrong, Duran was so poorly conditioned, he couldn't move to keep in Ray's face, like the 1st fight. Duran went down to his knees twice in the 2nd fight, never saw Duran do that, it was a sign of a poorly conditioned fighter. Ray himself admits today that his 'strategy' was to get a less than 100% Duran in the ring. He succeeded but Ray admits that 'win' has never felt satisfying to him. It's because he bought the Title back and fought his top rival when it really shouldn't of happened like that.
Howard's take on this fight is brutal. Duran is shellacking Ray and Howard is wondering if Ray was winning....wonder why the announcers like Al Burnstien never had much good to say about Roberto? They called him dirty, he wasn't, they said he was holding, Ray is doing most of the holding, They say he is just brawling, then why isn't he being hit very often? SO BIASED Cosell.
I don't know how a person who isn't calling the fight is biased! While Howard Cosell introduced the fight, it was called by the very boring Bill Mazer and the ultra-biased for the first time in my experience (with him) Ferdie Pacheco!
Keep in mind Duran had just moved up to the welterweight division and fought one of the greats, Ray Leonard. Duran did not climb the welterweight ladder first - he fought the welterweight champion of the world directly! And Ray was no bum, man. The man was at his best and only 23yrs young. It was Ray Arcel who schooled Ray and taught Duran how to maul inside. And Ray fell for it instead of boxing outside. So if anyone was the underdog in this fight, it was Duran. The second fight Ray boxed Duran and 'no mas'.
Duran had some fights at welter before he faced Ray, the biggest one was against Carlos Palomino, Duran pitched a shutout in that fight, knocking Carlos down at one point. Ray had to fight Duran, as Ray says to Howard here, "I couldn't move, Duran was constantly in my face and I had to fight him, he was cutting off the ring". Truth is, Ray bought the Title back, throwing money at Duran and his corner, making Duran decide to fight when he could not be possibly ready for the fight and taking the money and hoping for a rematch (that he was promised). OR, he could pass up 8-10 million when Duran had only made 2 mill in Montreal vs Ray and settle for less money when Duran could be in proper condition. Duran was pressured by his own people and Don King to take the fight, being told there will be a 3rd fight, so to take the money and try to do his best. Ray started mocking Duran and Duran was completely insulted in Ray's behavior. So in Latino fashion, Duran didn't give Ray the satisfaction of winning. Ray says today, that he has never felt satisfied from that fight. Ray knows why, who would want to fight their biggest rival when they are not 100%? Ray did and he is not satisfied because of it.
@@robertbrown7896 Imagine Ray moving up 2 weight classes after 70 pro fights, to fight a young and prime Duran at his normal weight? Ray would have left the ring in a body bag.
Cosell like Gutteridge, Hart and Al Bernstein hated and never had a good word to say about Duran. If you listen to their commentary this is FACT. Cosell doesn't mention that Leonard spent most of the fight holding. He was upset also that Duran was the crowd favourite on neutral territory. Maybe if Duran was British or American he would have been looked upon as a national treasure and not a peasant
I wonder if Duran appologized to Howard for hitting his boy and winning the fight. No disrespect to the dead, but Cosel never knew what the hell he was talking about boxing. One reason why so many disliked him when I was young. But only one, lol.
@@charlesrazo7246 I know that. But he wasn't prepared for that type of fight. 15 rounds is a long way to go trying to keep a guy like Duran off of you.
Je trouve que les gens oublient vite . Duran est un combattant parti de rien qui n'a eu aucun combat gratuit. Léonard en tant que médaillé d'or , a eu plusieurs combats facile en début de carrière . Duran ne peut se comparer qu'à Marvin Hagler .
Anybody can see the the referee Carlos Padilla let them intimidate him or they either pay them off Richard still would never have let this guy wrestle every God damn round that's b*******
Great wrestling match! Boxing not so much. All the experience and mauling tactics couldnt put away the kid. The 2nd fight showed who had the real boxing skills and heart!! Good stuff!
@@blite13 sure he was a great fighter! But he was the one who crumbled like a cookie because ray wasnt going to play the mauling game in the second bout. He knew he couldnt hang in a,boxing match against SR. ray stayed in there and fought durans fight the first go around but duran gimped out when he knew he would have to fight on rays terms in the second. No matter how you slice it its all there and will forever be a stain on durans career but i will say he was one of the greats even with that classic gimp out routine.
@@averagejoe8839 as you totally ignore what happened prior to the fight. If you think the same version was at the 2nd fight as the 1st fight, you can't see. Ray has said multiple times that his strategy for the 2nd fight, was to get a less than 100% Duran into the ring. Now tell me, do you condone that? What kind of champ wants to fight his biggest rival when he isn't in condition to do so? Ray paid off Duran's corner and Don King, to get Roberto to sign for a fight he knew he could not be ready for. Ray threw most of his purse towards Duran to get him to sign for a fight he could not be ready for. Ray said himself, multiple times, that he didn't want to fight a top conditioned Duran. And you condone that, shameful.
Ane the more I watch this fight, the more I think Leonard won. He landed the cleaner blows throughout the fight. Duran didn't punch enough...plain and simple.
no way mate, you dont know what you're talking about. Durans to experienced for Ray. He knew how to control the ring to well and the control of the ring Ray normally uses to his advantages in all his fight, without it it was difficult for him.
Ray was missing a lot of flurries Duran power punches gave him the fight not to mention the punishment Leonard took he hurt Leonard several times Leonard never hurt Duran hands of stones chin of stone that’s what makes him great
@@MegaAlvarojavier Duran wrestled as much as he punched. He did this as a lightweight, a tactic he used to wear down opponents and get himself some rest in the middle and late rounds. Even as a lightweight, Roberto blew up between fights and had to starve himself to make weight. As ripped as he might have appeared, he would tire midway through fights . Watch his defenses against Viruet and Lampkin...fighters who took him into the late rounds. His stamina in these fights was questionable. In Leonard 1, Roberto wrestled and clinched so often, getting credit for dominating but Sugar Ray gave as good as he got in the punching department. Don't get me wrong, I love Duran and I think he's without a doubt the greatest lightweight of all time. His comeback victory over Moore and his victory over Barkley were wins for the ages but at his absolute peak as a fighter here, and with Leonard fighting the wrong type of fight, he probably deserved no better than a draw.
DURAN .. NO ERA LIMPIO PARA PELEAR ENSUCIABA LAS PELEAS .. IVA CON LA CAZA Y TODO EL CUERPO . PARA CANSAR AL RIVAL.. ERA POCO DEPORTISTA.. MUCHAS PELEAS CREO QUE LAS GANAVA DE LO CONTRARIO ..LAS PERDIA...
IVA CON LA CABEZA Y TODO EL CUERPO.. PARA CANSAR AL RIVAL... ENRREDAVA LAS PELEAS .. APARTE ME PARECE ..QUE QUIEN LO DIRIGIA..LO.MANDAVA HA HACER ESA PELES...
Duran defence was awesome in this fight. Was able to use lead leg as an obstacle with bladed stance by closing off distance cutting down foot space for Leonard to get his combos off. He would square up on inside but only after stifling Leonard’s attacks. He also utilized the 1-2 effectively but in the 12 Leonard started to land some hellacious body shots on inside especially left liver shots. Amazing stuff by both legends
Duran , the best fighter of the 70's
Ali, Duran, Monzon, Arguello, Holmes, Foreman, Frazier, Gomez, Zarate, Saad Muhammad, in this order
Howard Cosell couldn't be more biased if he tried. It was a clear Duran win.
Yes sir and his preflight interview w Duran disrespectful
Ray was touted as the new Ali, American media did everything in their power to build him up as such. Howard and the boxing community helped Ray get the Title back, bribing an unprepared Duran to fight when he could not be ready and then telling the world Duran quit because Ray had him totally confused. Brainwashing at it's finest.
Here is another saying Cosell is calling this fight! Cosell's slow drawl is very distinctive, and anyone who ever actually heard him call a fight couldn't mistake it for someone else's.. Again, while Cosell introduced the fight, Bill Mazer and the "fight Dr." Ferdie Pacheco were the two calling the fight.
“You mean to tell me Duran has a heart condition?” Ray Arcel said. “He doesn't even have a heart.”
It seems to me that Leonard is the one doing the holding.
why would i watch any other version of this fight lol...i just watched the other version til like round 6 found this and here i am starting over its worth it
Thank you for the upload!
“At 24 Leonard is learning a lot..” that guy is super accurate in his comments despite his lack of excitement!
This was clearly and obviously an unanimous decision for manos de piedras.
I don't think the decision was ever disputed by anyone other than that Italian judge who scored 10 rounds even. But I had it for Duran by about 4 rounds.
Great quality and great fight, from the best uploader of old school fights.
I used to like listening to Cosell call a fight. But this fight was ridiculously called.
@cyril layman Because he just rambled on throughout the fight , Instead of calling the fight.
Because his boy Leonard was going to lose
He kept saying Duran was holding but it looked to me like Ray was holding more than Duran.
Duran was a buzzsaw. Loved watching him.
I love Duran , He just looked like a Bad ass A gladiator. Not as fast as Sugar , not as big, but his heart and will in this fight were just amazing. looks like the tazmanian devil
Duran looked a lot like Charles Manson.
Oh Duran had fast hands
Jerry Quarry said as fast as Leonard's
Durans speed is underrated. He was very fast and had good defense as well. But in this fight he demonstrated perfectly how to cut the ring. Boxing is all about the feet/legs and Duran was a master of to this. Also look at his body shots on Ray. Notice how he puts his hips into those punches. He hit him with lot of very hard shots. A lesser fighter might have folded in the late rounds but Ray kept fighting back. Ray just did not have the power of Duran. The amazing think is Duran was a lightweight moving up to fight the bigger man here.
Not as big? He was bigger than Ray but everything else that you said was pretty accurate but I don't like Duran LOL
@@velleione Duran was a lightweight moving up to welterweight
One fighter became a man the other legend
duran was born a legend
@@robertbrown7896 The greatest light weight of all time for all time and one of the pound for pound Great
Great Fight 😳 both Game 👌🤙👍 Duran won 💪
After Duran left or vacated his title at Lightweight he moved up to Welter he was always the smaller fighter from that point on in every fight, including Sugar Ray. Sugar proved he had a chin and a warriors heart in this fight for sure, though really Sugar had proven it against wilfredo Benitez a year earlier.This is one of the best fights in history where both were in top condition and prepared to battle.
Wilfredo was not much of a test if we are being honest. He was a great counter puncher and had great defense. He did not have a lot of power though. I had Ray way ahead before it was stopped in the 15th round. Yes it was stopped a little to quick but Benitez never complained. He knew he had been beat that night.
Benitze beat Duran
Benitze never got knocked out by hearns Duran did .benutze was a great fighter only man to win a title at the ten er age of 17
@@bobbywise2313 Benitez was NO match whatsoever
@@markdunham9949 I don't know about that. He won maybe 4 rounds and even Ray said he was the hardest person to hit he ever fought. Ray's punches were harder though and Ray totally took over by the later rounds.
The reason this was a close quarters fight was Leonard holding constantly when Roberto got in close. Watch how he always held Duran's arms.
Yep totally locked them.if not he would been knocked out.
I miss ABC wide world of sports boxing programs
I do too,I miss the Saturday Sunday afternoon fights
I agree. I remember we could watch world class boxing championship fights at 4:30 pm . All the great classics. I remember watching a lot of Alfredo Escalera and the dancing snake in the ring when they played the drums , Salvador Sanchez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler’s two nemesis Hamsho and Vito Auntefermo, etc. Just great memories of being a child in the 70’s and teen in the 80’s....
It was a cool show and featured things like cliff diving, rock climbing and my favorite the lumberjack competition.
I can still hear the intro and picture the the guy in the skies having the huge crash when the words "agony of defeat" were said.
Broadcast date of this replay was July 19, 1980.
This broadcast was the first time I saw this fight. I had been a Duran fan for a while, but this fight had me mesmerized from start to finish...both great Champions!
At 18:03 you can hear the other commentary team scream “OH HE HURT LEONARD!!!”
that was dr Freddy Pacheco that was from the closed circuit broadcast
Duran para muchos fue inspiración ya que fue a boxear con los mejores y se fajo como hombre. Nunca se vendió por plata. Ej Canelo sus peleas son arregladas y Chavez puros bultos para llegar a 80 peleas sin perder, porque no fue a boxear con Leonard o Irán Barkley q eran más o menos de su edad, por miedoso. Viva Duran..
That time Leonard realized he wasn’t fighting Pete Ranzany.
Imagine this fight today. Would've sold 5m+ ppvs
Ray true sportsmen and gentelman.
Padilla did a great job.....Howard and Leonard are drama kings!
Can you upload the opening sequence to Season 5 of the PBS music program Austin City Limits from 1980? We open on a shot of the Austin, Texas skyline as the camera pulls away. Then, it shows a truck coming in and driving down the road, passing a house with "HOWDY" written on it, backing up the cattles, waving at a cowboy riding on a horse, a shot of a longhorn, man jumping out of the fence as a truck comes in, people getting in the back of a truck, woman laughs while a man drives, and the people sitting in the back of a truck with a dog next to it. In between the truck scenes, there's a man lifting a baby up in the air against the waters of Barton Springs, a shot of the green rolling hills, the Texas state capital, people at street fairs, armadillo races, and picturesque pleasures. We cut to a man laughing in the back of a truck, a shot of the truck driving down the road, woman smiling with her hair blowing, a shot of a landscape on a truck's window, camera pans up from the cactus to see a truck driving down the road, camera pans up from the water to see a truck driving through a bridge, truck getting splashed with water, woman and a man driving down the road, a shot of the road with the Austin skyline, back of the truck driving by as a guy waves his arm up in the air, camera pans to the left to see the Austin City Limits sign, and the camera zooming in on the Austin City Limits sign. Then, the Austin City Limits sign morphs into photographs of that evening's performance, whereas it zooms in to reveal the performance.🙂
The 13th round sealed it.
Looks like a guy from Red dead Redemption part 4 video game
DURÁN ORGULLO LATINOAMERICANO
Duran is a scary guy
Hope he found peace God bless him and his family
outside the ring, Duran was always happy and willing to meet his fans. He is a man of God and is still doing well, mentally and physically.
Wondering why this doesn't have more hits.
I generally like Cosell's commentating but the comments are right he did bad here.....made the fight boring sounding....having 1 guy too is a bad idea it's not as bad as earlier decades(a left and a right and a right and a left right)
Duran at his best here testosterone still high still young but lots of experience....
I personally like it better than the other version with those 2 idiots screaming after every punch.
Leonard holding more than fighting! Questions about referee from Duran's handlers seems to have Leonard believing he has carte blanche. And he may be right. Referee should start taking points away from Leonard for holding, but the Ref seems afraid to do his job in that area.
and Howard said it was Duran doing all the holding.....Howard thinks people are dumb.
"Leonard holding more than fighting" Maybe you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
What was the name of that jam sugar ray came out to ?
Una pelea demasiado elogiada, pero que evidencia que ninguno de los dos tenía buena pegada, porque fueron 15 rounds y ninguno salió realmente lastimado. Nada que ver con Pacquiao, Inoue, Chávez, Sánchez, etcétera. La segunda pelea fue peor.
In terms of stamina and raw energy this has gotto be the fight that's sets the ultimate unfortunately Leonard who no doubt proved his class should never have tried to out brawl DURAN it was a huge mistake which I'm sure every one realized because Duran was simply out performing him and never really looked in trouble once through out the fight.
Duran has 'party voice' in the interview with Howard.
couldnt even look at duran.
same straregy mcgregor used against aldo except he executed it to perfection
On the inside, I saw Leonard holding Duran's gloves more than Duran was holding. So trash the holding excuse. I've watched this fight approx. 20 times. I've never once scored it for Leonard. All close unanimous for Duran. No controversy!
Leonard didn't get credit for his body work on Duran
Because it didn't even hurt Duran
He did land a lot of body shots on Duran. Durans body shots had way more power though. Look at the legs and hips. Duran was pounding the body hard. Ray was landing good also but it was more arm punches. I credit Ray for lasting the 15 rounds because he took some punishment.
Leonard looked like he was already defeated before the fight, he did not have confidence in himself. In his book he said that he didn't prepare perfectly as well, and that will show in confidence.
I believe he was battling the flu leading up to the fight as well
@@jia1596 I'm starting to believe there are some excuses involved, how can you go 15 hard rounds without being well prepared?
Ray was scared, his own wife said so. Ray was hoping for a rolly polly Duran, instead, he saw a primed Duran in top condition, unlike New Orleans. Ray was hoping for the uninspired Duran, he got the best of Duran in Montreal and Ray knew it was going to be hell. Ray was fully prepared, just very intimidated and didn't know how to handle it.
@@blite13 i guess he was scared the second time around???
@@chrisjackson8299 why would he have been? Ray knew Duran was in no condition to give Ray a tough fight. Why do you think he started to mock him? He knew there was nothing there, Duran made weight, but he was a shadow of his true self, just the way Ray wanted it and Ray gave up most of his purse to Duran's handlers to get them to convince Duran to sign for a fight everyone knew he could not be ready for. What kind of champ wants to fight his biggest rival when his rival was nowhere his best? Only a coward would do that. Ray admitted it multiple times, that his 'strategy' was to get an ill prepared Duran in the ring. Yes, Ray was so scared to fight a well conditioned Duran, that he waited another 10 yrs before he would fight him a 3rd time. Yeah, real honorable guy huh?
Duran in peak condition.....a great fight. The fight was called on a much better "level: commentary by Ferdie Pacheco.....watch that....much better
I actually agree and I liked Cosell but he was off on this one.
How was it a draw in one card? Duran tore Ray apart.
Just wondering and this is many many years after the fight but did anyone catch the fact that Howard cosell pretty much told Duran the strategy that Leonard was going to use do you think that had anything to do with the fight I do watching the beginning Howard tales Duran strategy he sort of dry snitched like an extra coach
Sugar Ray's palpable disgust at the referee at 1:18:26 is *hilarious.*
Interesting lol. Reality is the refs job isn't to keep one fighter off another, it's to break clinches and make sure combat is "clean". This fight came down to Ray and his desire to defeat Roberto at his own game. In my view, this fight was close and could have gone either way. Main thing standing out is that Roberto did hurt Ray in the second round and I don't see a round where Ray clearly hurt Duran.
Ray provides a tap on the leg for support at 1:20:00
@@eugenemcgirt2357 Ray had to fight Duran 'at his own game'. Watch the interview with Ray and Howard in studio after the fight. Ray told Howard that HE COULD NOT MOVE, DURAN WASN't ALLOWING IT. Ray was forced to fight Duran, otherwise, he would have been KO'd. Duran hurt Ray in a lot of rounds, judges had it too close. The fake Ray version of events were 1) Ray wanted to fight Duran at close qrts. = wrong, Ray says it to Howard right here on this vid, that he couldn't move, Duran wouldn't allow it. 2) that Ray fought his 'dancing style' and this is why he won the 2nd fight. = wrong, Duran was so poorly conditioned, he couldn't move to keep in Ray's face, like the 1st fight. Duran went down to his knees twice in the 2nd fight, never saw Duran do that, it was a sign of a poorly conditioned fighter. Ray himself admits today that his 'strategy' was to get a less than 100% Duran in the ring. He succeeded but Ray admits that 'win' has never felt satisfying to him. It's because he bought the Title back and fought his top rival when it really shouldn't of happened like that.
Howard's take on this fight is brutal. Duran is shellacking Ray and Howard is wondering if Ray was winning....wonder why the announcers like Al Burnstien never had much good to say about Roberto? They called him dirty, he wasn't, they said he was holding, Ray is doing most of the holding, They say he is just brawling, then why isn't he being hit very often? SO BIASED Cosell.
Notice the camera shot is waist up?, Cuz cosell has his hand on Leonard's knob
I don't know how a person who isn't calling the fight is biased! While Howard Cosell introduced the fight, it was called by the very boring Bill Mazer and the ultra-biased for the first time in my experience (with him) Ferdie Pacheco!
Keep in mind Duran had just moved up to the welterweight division and fought one of the greats, Ray Leonard. Duran did not climb the welterweight ladder first - he fought the welterweight champion of the world directly! And Ray was no bum, man. The man was at his best and only 23yrs young. It was Ray Arcel who schooled Ray and taught Duran how to maul inside. And Ray fell for it instead of boxing outside. So if anyone was the underdog in this fight, it was Duran. The second fight Ray boxed Duran and 'no mas'.
if they fought at 135 duran would have killed him
Duran had some fights at welter before he faced Ray, the biggest one was against Carlos Palomino, Duran pitched a shutout in that fight, knocking Carlos down at one point. Ray had to fight Duran, as Ray says to Howard here, "I couldn't move, Duran was constantly in my face and I had to fight him, he was cutting off the ring". Truth is, Ray bought the Title back, throwing money at Duran and his corner, making Duran decide to fight when he could not be possibly ready for the fight and taking the money and hoping for a rematch (that he was promised). OR, he could pass up 8-10 million when Duran had only made 2 mill in Montreal vs Ray and settle for less money when Duran could be in proper condition. Duran was pressured by his own people and Don King to take the fight, being told there will be a 3rd fight, so to take the money and try to do his best. Ray started mocking Duran and Duran was completely insulted in Ray's behavior. So in Latino fashion, Duran didn't give Ray the satisfaction of winning. Ray says today, that he has never felt satisfied from that fight. Ray knows why, who would want to fight their biggest rival when they are not 100%? Ray did and he is not satisfied because of it.
@@robertbrown7896 Imagine Ray moving up 2 weight classes after 70 pro fights, to fight a young and prime Duran at his normal weight? Ray would have left the ring in a body bag.
Second fight, Duran was in terrible shape. Instead of training he partied. Facts
Cosell like Gutteridge, Hart and Al Bernstein hated and never had a good word to say about Duran. If you listen to their commentary this is FACT. Cosell doesn't mention that Leonard spent most of the fight holding. He was upset also that Duran was the crowd favourite on neutral territory. Maybe if Duran was British or American he would have been looked upon as a national treasure and not a peasant
I wonder if Duran appologized to Howard for hitting his boy and winning the fight. No disrespect to the dead, but Cosel never knew what the hell he was talking about boxing. One reason why so many disliked him when I was young. But only one, lol.
Nobody called these fights better than Howard
Howard was a moron
The bias.from cosell is sickining
How did Duran muscle Ray Duran was a overblown lightweight
So true but he was a VERY strong lightweight.
@@constantine7382 That was all natural weight on Ray
@@charlesrazo7246 I know that. But he wasn't prepared for that type of fight. 15 rounds is a long way to go trying to keep a guy like Duran off of you.
@@constantine7382 Remember Ray was in his prime Duran prime ended 1978
@@charlesrazo7246 I know. It made the victory all the more impressive.
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Duran won the battle but srl won the war 😉
Je trouve que les gens oublient vite . Duran est un combattant parti de rien qui n'a eu aucun combat gratuit. Léonard en tant que médaillé d'or , a eu plusieurs combats facile en début de carrière . Duran ne peut se comparer qu'à Marvin Hagler .
Anybody can see the the referee Carlos Padilla let them intimidate him or they either pay them off Richard still would never have let this guy wrestle every God damn round that's b*******
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Padilla was s bad ref. His performance in the Thrilla in the Milla should have excluded this clown.
Sugar ray was sure cocky and over confident and didn't respect a lightweight fighting him .
Great wrestling match! Boxing not so much. All the experience and mauling tactics couldnt put away the kid. The 2nd fight showed who had the real boxing skills and heart!! Good stuff!
say what? Duran didn't have boxing skills? No heart? If only you knew something about boxing?
@@blite13 sure he was a great fighter! But he was the one who crumbled like a cookie because ray wasnt going to play the mauling game in the second bout. He knew he couldnt hang in a,boxing match against SR. ray stayed in there and fought durans fight the first go around but duran gimped out when he knew he would have to fight on rays terms in the second. No matter how you slice it its all there and will forever be a stain on durans career but i will say he was one of the greats even with that classic gimp out routine.
@@averagejoe8839 as you totally ignore what happened prior to the fight. If you think the same version was at the 2nd fight as the 1st fight, you can't see. Ray has said multiple times that his strategy for the 2nd fight, was to get a less than 100% Duran into the ring. Now tell me, do you condone that? What kind of champ wants to fight his biggest rival when he isn't in condition to do so? Ray paid off Duran's corner and Don King, to get Roberto to sign for a fight he knew he could not be ready for. Ray threw most of his purse towards Duran to get him to sign for a fight he could not be ready for. Ray said himself, multiple times, that he didn't want to fight a top conditioned Duran. And you condone that, shameful.
Made him say,no mas!!!!
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Howard Cosell was terrible.
I agree. He excoriated Duran for clinching when it’s obvious Leonard was clamping down on Durans arms and gloves.
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Nonsense
boring fight
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Ane the more I watch this fight, the more I think Leonard won. He landed the cleaner blows throughout the fight. Duran didn't punch enough...plain and simple.
no way mate, you dont know what you're talking about. Durans to experienced for Ray. He knew how to control the ring to well and the control of the ring Ray normally uses to his advantages in all his fight, without it it was difficult for him.
Literally the exact opposite
Ray was missing a lot of flurries Duran power punches gave him the fight not to mention the punishment Leonard took he hurt Leonard several times Leonard never hurt Duran hands of stones chin of stone that’s what makes him great
@@MegaAlvarojavier Duran wrestled as much as he punched. He did this as a lightweight, a tactic he used to wear down opponents and get himself some rest in the middle and late rounds. Even as a lightweight, Roberto blew up between fights and had to starve himself to make weight. As ripped as he might have appeared, he would tire midway through fights . Watch his defenses against Viruet and Lampkin...fighters who took him into the late rounds. His stamina in these fights was questionable. In Leonard 1, Roberto wrestled and clinched so often, getting credit for dominating but Sugar Ray gave as good as he got in the punching department. Don't get me wrong, I love Duran and I think he's without a doubt the greatest lightweight of all time. His comeback victory over Moore and his victory over Barkley were wins for the ages but at his absolute peak as a fighter here, and with Leonard fighting the wrong type of fight, he probably deserved no better than a draw.
@@MegaAlvarojavier Duran missed a lot punches too
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Deja de llorar, pero ya Duran es el más grande hoy en día.
Duran fidny knock him down or badly hurt him! Leonard was the champ got robbed