Fiio BTR7. STILL MY FAVORITE?
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Thanks Dave for the review on the Fiio BTR7. I've been looking at USB DAC's, and wanted something good to use with my IEM's. Up until now, I've been just using the standard headphone jack on my MacBook and dongle for my phone. I've watched several of your reviews, and decided I may spend the extra $$ on the BTR7, based upon your comments. I was looking at the Moondrop Moon River 2, and the Shanling UA3. But your review convinced me to purchase the BTR7.
Thanks to Timmy, I've started a collection of various IEM's. From the Chu, Aria (both sets), and now the Aful Performer 5. Can't wait to see what I've been missing so far, by using the standard outputs. And not a DAC.
I thank you both for your excellent reviews, and honest opinions on these audio products. I watch the other reviewers, but I always enjoy watching and hearing your comments in your videos. You guys are awesome!
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These vids are really well made. I rekindled my love for high-fidelity and have a BTR7 lying here waiting for my Vision Ears VE8 to come :) Subscribed.
i honestly dont understand why they release smth inbetween ext and phonix
Thank you for the great video; it shows that you love what you do, and actually do the research! Did Fiio solve some of the display issues on the a few pieces of the first batch? That case is so chintzy is great. Im glad it's chunky; I want something beefier than BTR3K. Great explanation of Boost Bal out mode!
Great review as always. It was interesting to see this today, last night I picked up my BTR7 and listened to it with both my Thieaudio Oracles and TinHiFi P1Max. I had been using my Shanling UA5 and xDuoo Link 2 Bal for the past few weeks. I had forgotten how nice the BTR7 presented music. I agree, still my favorite too!
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching!
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@@Gizaudio What the difference between B TYPE C AND T TYPE C . . . I have Android ZFold3
@@DroidLocks6971you have money go buy it lol and try it out what's the difference of the zfold 😅
@@DroidLocks6971 did you ever find out the answer to this I wanted to order one but I don't know which to order and I couldn't find the difference anywhere
Thank you for another great review! I´d like to know about the bass sound performance, as I was considering purchase the IFI Hip Dac 2 for its bass performance (according to the reviews).
I just upgraded from Qudelix 5k and BTR 5 to the BTR7 and the immediate difference I noticed is that the treble definitely had more extension on the the BTR 7 no it does not just sound brighter, it sounds like I can now hear more treble frequencies and the treble is a bit smoother too compared to my q5k and btr 5
btw i'm using sony ier z1r and kiwi ears quartet
Hey does btr7 have more soundstage than btr5?
Brilliant quality review
thanks for this. what phone and case do we see in this review please? looks great alongside the btr7
Thanks for the review❗️👍Btw did you try Ifi go blue..?🙋♂️
I have btr7. For the case problem, I used an iron money clip and double-sided tape glue (which was made from foam) to attach it to the btr7 case. Problem solved, very easy.
thing is they shouldnt gave me all these if none generate result
im willing to do this bcs i know they worth really high, like even the videos will be your to go entertainment or comparison to test leds and audio gears
reality they worth as much as dust, what makes worse audio list also hidden which smth i put alot effort & experience into, they worth really high as well, supposedly, w normal minds
Hello. What can you say about the Earmen Colibri and Cayin ru6 in comparison with this device?
Hey! I’m a bit late to the party, but I wanted to ask if it has any latency for watching videos or movies?
When I’m using my M11 there is a bit of latency looking really weird when someone is speaking (moving his/her mouth) in a movie f.e.
Does it have he parametric eq ?
& If it does then is it available for both Bluetooth & USB mode
How do I connect the BTR7 to my Sony WF1000X from my phone with UCB-C. Can it be done? Thanks!!
One question mate, I have Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO which is 250ohms, can this drive this in Bluetooth mode or at least in USB mode? Thank you for your response in advance.
Hi guys I wonder whatever happened to the new APTX LOSSLESS codec which is in all the new snapdragon chips. Crazy that we only still have LDAC 990Kbps as a higher rescodec which is still not as good as a wire which is about 1200-1500Kbps if I recall
Are you able to use this with a usb c to 3.5mm jack male? For example using audio jack on a fligh.
Cool video and music!
Thank you!
Hi) thanks a lot for video! How FIIO BTR7 compares with FIIO KA5?
Hey, I returned ifi XDSD Gryphon because I thought it's not worth for it's price also not much better than BTR5, so does BTR7 sound as good as gryphon? And what ways is it better than BTR5?
I’m in between this BTR7 and a DAP Shanling M3X. Is it better to buy BTR7 and use it with iPhone or just simply get a DAP like Shanling M3X?
Hi, does BTR 7 sound better in usb dac mode or wireless or it’s otherwise. Kindly shed some light on this. TIA
If I plug into my Android phone and have FLAC files, will this be able to utilize and play FLAC or is it only PCM Lossless? Thank you! Also, if this device can't play FLAC, what portable DAC AMP would you recommend for that?
Which portable dac do you think would be best for senhnheiser iem 400 pro and better? Wanting best sound price not factor
I bought it yesterday on Aliexpress for $120, looking forward to it arriving
Great Review. I was really surprised by how much I liked the BTR7 too. Some of my other DACs like Mojo 2, Gryphon, RS2... are a bit better in sound quality but they are not linear sounding, are less portable, don't have a highly customizable EQ (not Qudelix level but still more bands than Mojo 2). I'm still keeping mine as a backup pair along with some DACs that have a unique sound character like RS2 & Mojo 2 to get better synergy with certain IEMs/Headphones.
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The difference between the B and T is just color. Black and Titanium.
Hi. Since we have a point of comparison in common (Mojo2) I'm curious to ask you how the treble extension of the BTR7 is compared to the Mojo2. The Mojo2 I find rolls off/smooths over the treble too much and as a result I don't really like it. I have to have sparkle, I need metal instruments to sound like metal (Mojo2 sounds plasticy). How does the BTR7 compare in this regard? Does it retain the metallic zing and air or is it rolled off too? (BTR5 has the same problem as Mojo2 but even worse).
@@jafizzle95 No, BTR7 won't give you that sparkly treble, it's a bit more neutral sounding.
I think I know what you mean by Mojo 2 lacking sparkle, to my ears, Mojo 2 is a bit on the bright side but peaks of some instruments are slightly blunted or smoothed and so they don't sound as piercing as they would in real life. Have you tried the built-in DSP to boost the higher frequencies?
Personally, I prefer a slightly warm neutral presentation and so most of my DAC/Amps represent that type of sound.
Maybe look at EarMen Angel or Topping G5.
Btr7 vs gryphon?
So even connected wired via 3.5 and with USBC , the Bluetooth has to be paired with the phone ???
But the only way to connect it to smartphone or tablet etc. is by usb-c? Doesn't work with pairing by bluetooth?
It should have an oled display, it would make the black bar look they were going for a lot cleaner.
What do you think when compared with the ka5?
How does this compare to the ifi Gryphon? Shall I sell that and get this. To run my Dan Clarke Aeon Noire. Thanks!
what headphones best to use with this? im just getting into this
Which fiio is better at playing music over the wire btr7 or ka17? 🙏🏻
I am looking for something to brighten up my car stock speakers. I was mainly interested in the BTR7 then the m11 plus and q7 dsd512 caught my attention. Any suggestions which one would be best for my usage? Thanks
i like the m11
when you plug it into USB on your computer can you still use the equalizer through the fiio app, or at least the one you pre-programmed as user?
Yes, I think you can save at least one user preset EQ to the device. Thanks for watching!
what is the name of the green IEM ?
Hey man, awesome review! I'm thinking about getting this because I want to upgrade my listening experience, but I currently use a galaxy s22 ultra + Sennheiser momentum true wireless 4 earbuds, do you think it will be worth the upgrade?
dac upgrade always worth, even on weaker speakers/cans
I wish it had the song title on the display like the ITB03.
Got the btr7 to replace btr5. While all is good, the buttons are extremely irritating. To pause music, u need to tap once to wake the screen..then tap again to pause it. Same as the vol, first tap only wakes screen up then the next tap will change volume. And the screen doesn't show it's playing or pause. It's just should the codec. Which is something that hardly would be change when listening to. Knowing if it's playing or paused would be more useful.
Thanks for the review. Do you have any advice when it comes to BRT7 vs M11 Plus? I mainly listen to Vinyl or Qobuz/Tidal. So I'm not sure if the M11 Plus is future proof enough because Android 10 support for Tidal and Qobuz will end some day. Since I own no digital Music, I think the BRT7 and a Smartphone will be better in this regard. But how about Sound quality?
hey, what did you buy?
@@jackdanyal4329 The BRT7. I'm happy with it. Sounds great.
I returned the M11plus could not justify it for $$$, android is old, chips very old, pretty crappy...
I'm torn between buying a new dap like Shanling M0 pro or buying a dac like this one. I want something small to carry in my pocket. But with the btr7 you need a source so you carry always 2 devices... What's your opinion on this? Actually i'm not a bluetooth fan because wires gives always the best sound quality. I use always in ears btw so volume is not priority, sound quality does.
It can’t hurt to have at least one dongle in your arsenal. The primary appeal is portability. However, dongles can’t match full on or full sized DAC’s or DAP’s far as sound quality & quantity goes. So, the chase continues beyond dongles with portable/transportable DAC’s/DAP’s, as illustrated in this video review. In short, it never ends 🛒💸🤣🤷🏽♂️🙇🏽♂️
@@emailkenny it does end you psycho, just buy a BTR5 2021 and stop crying.
Have this now. Listening through 4.4mm to the Timeless. Streaming from my phone via USB. Holy dang it sounds good. I don't really even care about the app only working in BT mode, or that the sample rate does not show correctly (via USB at least, COULD be Android also messing with it), the sound quality just plain trumps those little niggles, imo.
But how do they do with overhead headphones?
Will this one work as a tabletop?
Is this powerful enough for a good listening experience with something as power hungry as the HE400se?
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I've owned the BTR5 and the BTR7. I ended up returning the BTR7 because I couldn't justify it costing almost double the price. To me, the BTR5 was a bit more portable especially with the plastic clip included. Also, I couldn't really perceive any difference in sound quality between the two. I'd be interested to hear others thoughts?
I have btr7. For the case problem, I used an iron money clip and double-sided tape glue (which was made from foam) to attach it to the btr7 case. Problem solved, very easy.
I just looked at the BTR7 but went with the BTR3K when I saw that the 5 and 7 had a Sabre DAC. I've not had luck with ESS DACs, they always seem to have faint crackle and pops in the treble region and it's extremely annoying. No such issues with AKM DACs.
@Di Yao Does that mean I've saved 11 bucks? nice to know that. 😊
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Which mobile DAC would you combine with Afwul Perfomer 5's?
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Is it possible to play hi-res pcm files and EQ them with the BTR7. If so, how do you EQ these files. Thanks
you can have bitperfect output and still have it eq'd
Hey 😊 , it worth to buy it in 2024?
I don’t understand why they don’t add a transparency mode via a mic on the DAC.
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Im still new with this dac things, and i have questions.
1. If i you use the bluetooth ldac on fiio, will the THX and ESS chip work together to made the sound good?
2. Im more into streaming music, how to get full utilize of this device?
Thanks 🙏🏻
(1) yes, irrespective of the source of audio, the output hardware remains the same, so the dac and amp chip still engage the same
(2) if you're going to use your phone to stream music, then just connect this device through USB-C and your phone should start outputting audio through the BTR7. In most cases a wired connection sounds better than the bluetooth, but if you use Bluetooth with the LDAC codec, then the degradation of sound quality should be minimal.
@@quadrannilator Thanks for your help! Sorry I didn't respond sooner.
@@Gizaudio no problem, glad to help the real new comers to be on board with us!
Based on your review and also the dongle shootout, Im getting a BTR7 myself. Your review was the one which gave a precise piece of information that I was looking for, so Thank you for that!
@@quadrannilator thanks for your help, really appreciate this!!
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Sound alone... FiiO BTR7 or FiiO Q3? Also... Is there something similar functionality and sound wise that does not have MQA?
theyre very different mx sounds/competes more with vsonic
similarity prob the space, both are great at 'exploiting' dacs
any recommendations for a good mp3 player with the price around $40(and has touchscreen)?
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@@DroidLocks6971 there is no type b but most likely you are referring to micro usb and it's a very outdated charger like maybe 2019 devices while type c is better because you don't need to rotate tha charger so that it goes in right and will charge a lot faster than micro usb
It's a hard one for me to pick this over the Hip Dac (I know they are differents) but thinking in the price range 🤔
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@@DroidLocks6971 One is black like in this video, and one is Titanium finished. That's it lol
@@DroidLocks6971😂 zfold3 really why would you buy that it has horrible sound quality
@@redclaw72666fold 3 is horrible phone. Fold 4 dominates it.
Please make a video on best iem for gaming in all price categories
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i love BTR7 but man how much i want a BT AKM dac amp unfortunately there not even one good one
Friend, tell me some headphones or a player with physical keys to rewind tracks 10 seconds forward or backward. and not just switching tracks forward back, do such things even exist?
I just bought Momentum 4 and I have I phone 13 , can BTR 7 make it louder
Absolutely YES.
Excellent review! Do you think it is worth the upgrade from the BTR5 2021? I ask considering the BTR7 costs double the price. Also, does the leather case have that clip to hang it in the shirt?
Nope btr7 is just like a leather phone case
Plus for upgrading as buyer perspective, it's better to sell ur btr5 and buy the btr7 cuz I done this for my shangling up5 too and it's worth it
I have btr7. For the case problem, I used an iron money clip and double-sided tape glue (which was made from foam) to attach it to the btr7 case. Problem solved, very easy.
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BTR7 is fantastic device, BUT; the battery life in USB mode (connected via USB OTG cable) is terrible compared to Bluetooth mode. With my Ether C Flow planar headphones, on the same playlist and volume level I got cca 8hrs in BT mode, but only about 3,5hrs in USB mode 😒
Totally agree！
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I know it’s apples to oranges but would the K7 be a sonic upgrade over the BTR7? I own the BTR7 now but I’m looking for a desktop solution next month and the K7 is on my radar.
A small upgrade sonically with iems. However, if you have harder-to-drive headphones the difference may be more noticeable because of the K7's higher power output.
@@Gizaudio interesting - I’m looking for a significant sonic upgrade over the BTR7 in the form of a desktop set up under $500. Do you think that’s something that exists? Even if it’s used. Thanks
@@MrDomq22 if the BTR7 is transparent and has enough power for what you are using, what do think a "significant sonic upgrade" could involve?
You could look into getting a tube amp, that would add harmonic distortion to the signal which can sound good subjectively. I have a Xduoo TA-26 tube amp which pairs well with the HD650 for example (but little else, it's not very flexible- it sounds bad with my planars and most IEMs).
The K7 will have substantially more power if you NEED substantially more power. You don't with IEMs.
Ultimately if you want "a significant sonic upgrade", probably the best thing to do is to change your IEMs/headphones. That can actually make a significant difference.
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Were you testing bluetooth or a wired connection?
Wired. Bluetooth is good but definitely better wired
@@Gizaudio thanks and what was it wired to? Using usb?
@@REX4340yes
@@REX4340 yes, USB
The sample rate changes but the bitrate is always constant, so bit perfect cannot be achieved. For this we need to switch between uac 1.0 and 2.0. It's really ridiculous. We have to listen to CD quality songs in 1.0. Also, for 2.0 compatible songs, it does 32 bits instead of 24 bits. It's a strange software, a bit of a deceptive device.
Listening to 24 to 32 does not seem to be a problem, but when listening to 16 bit CD quality at 32 bit, there is definitely a loss, and it can be felt.
is it better to buy this instead of DAP?
Depends on the DAP but Yes, I have a DAP and I end up using my phone + BTR7 more often than my DAP.
@@asotomayor which DAP do you have?
btr7 or questyle m15?
BTR7 any day of the week and twice on Sunday
Main question - does it sound better than a smartphone? if yes by how much? 10%, 50%, a 100% better?
P.S. My smartphone is Galaxy S10e + Audio Technica MSR7b headphones.
Many owners of the MSR7B say they sound better using a balanced output which the BTR7 has. I've never heard them so I can't say for sure. Thanks for watching!
I love my Btr7 but hate the case lol, definetly wish it had a clip like the Btr5
I bought a money clip that comes with adhesive for $1 and stuck it to the case been working perfectly for 2 months now 😂, Also acts as metal to stick on car's magnet holder.
Ay yo what happened to Timmy?
😂😂😂 every time
He's over at Imagine Scents now.
His account got mugged
As far as I have noticed, all iems videos are made by Timmy, and all dac/amp videos are made by Dave.
He's buying milk
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The color of the unit. B Type for Black, T Type for Titanium.
I prefer the shangling up5 the knob is just better imo
Still haven't heard that one. Thanks for watching!
Hey have you used both btr7 and up5?. which one sounds better?
@@beyondtheuniverse999 I haven't but Id go for a Bluetooth adapter that has buttons vs a knob since mine doesn't scroll volume any more have to use the app to change it or have a mic with volume buttons on the cable
FiiO BTR7 v/s FiiO Q3, which one is more powerful?
BTR7 has more power.
Is THX a certification only??
better than mojo?
it will of course be better than mojo unless you're some sort of a cable fetichist.
Will this power Focal Clear headphones?
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is this short bus?
NO
ok ok i have the BTR7, there is only one negative its too big, they should do away with the 3.5 and just make it 4.4 balanced, i know its covering all bases but what audio enthusiast doesnt use IEMs with a balanced cable, leave 3.5 for the casual listener/console gamers of the world
99% of the market for this device still use 3.5mm.
😂 😂😂 go cry about it it's not that serious 🤡
BTR7 is awesome hardware with very poor software how many years is Fiio now making these things and they still can make a good App and EQ i may just have to get Qudelix 5k
You need to listen to qudelix 5k.
Btr7 has more power, i might want to order to try.
To me, qudelix 5k is much better than Btr5.
Would the btr7 pair well with UE18pro?
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