How about getting up on the roof for a Shootout between this 770s, the Diamond SRH77CA and the Nagoya NA-771? Then we’ll hear which one rules. All of them kill the antennas that come equipped with the radios. Looking forward to it. Thanks- Keith W2LA
My antenna arrived yesterday and holy crap what a difference. It receives really well on uhf. I am hearing signals so much stronger with this antenna. I get great signal reports with repeaters that are 50 plus miles away: i highly recommend this.
Really love theses ht antenna comparisons. Thanks for going to great lengths AND heights to make this video! Fun and interesting stuff......de W2LIR....NY
thanks for the vid I just did an experiment and put my ht in the freezer with the door shut while this operator was transmitting and had just as strong volume and could hear em great.no bacon or picket fencing .
Hi Eric and Jim, the wacko thing got me convinced me on hitting the "Subscribe" button :) :) I am new to this hobby, and I'm hoping to learn from watching on CZcams. I'm from the Philippines btw.
Seems like Eric will do anything for a ham radio video even test a ht antenna on his roof of his house. Your neighbor is buying a new set of binoculars on Amazon. Thank you Eric. Mike N6IMY
Great video. I'll probably be picking this antenna up to add to my collection. The "10-4" comments are funny to me. I've only had my ticket for about 2 years and I believe this hobby is about communication. Everybody knows what "10-4" means so I don't understand why people would gig you for it. Of course, I would _never_ say that on the air...lol...but I don't care when someone else does it. Keep up the great work, Eric. 73
I have a foldable flat antenna that can u fold to like 4 feet long that’s “dual band” (2m and 70cm) for the beofang’s and it makes a huge difference! I used it on my radios (Murs since not licensed) and the range difference is amazing.. hand held to handheld while ATVing I would say Range has doubled from stock antennas while folded and unfolding it I wouldn’t say Range increased much more but quality of signal increases for sure just a pin in the back end to hold it up so I tied it to a stick where it fold to hold it. Through the dense woods on stock antennas at 1-2 watts MURS we get about 2-3 miles as long as no hill between us and after about a mile the noise floor almost matches the vocal audio. Putting on the foldable antennas on (but folded) each end we easily cross 6 miles apart with a bit of terrain between us (a few minor hills). And noise floor doesn’t match vocal level till about 2.5 - 3 miles. Unfolded the noise floor doesn’t appear to match vocal level until about 4 miles.. testing them on digital mode 1 watt (I checked nothing in our area we would contaminate with digital audio which is annoying on analog) yields similar results... basically range doubling and half as much choppiness and robotic sounds.
Cody Marston probably or from the same factory in China mass producing stuff if anything... I’m finding out though that it’s trash on a lot of other bands and channels :(
Seems like a decent bit of kit. I had been using a MFJ LongRanger half wave telescopic on my HT for SOTA, with great results, but it's delicate and doesn't like getting wet (in the clouds) so am on the hunt for an alternative...
@@kc1kug82 Why should I use an adapter if the manufacturer offered the antenna with the connector that I prefer, IF they offered it? BTW, Diamond claims they will not offer it with a BNC connector. Maybe if we ask them enough they might.
Just a quick question, will that antenna fit the Yaesu Original FT-65 FT-65R 144/440 ? I just ordered one and would like to upgrade the antenna ASAP, as the radio is only as good as the antenna ;) And BTW, thank you for the vids, they are helpful and I enjoy them.
Hi Eric, great job again, i love your videos, and this kind too. Actually I *did* this kind of tests, and i too would not move an inch just to keep the comparison between antennas as accurate as possible :) Warmest wishes and best 73 de Chris HA7WX
Another fine video. I know this one was a while back, but how about a comparison between this and the Abbree 42 inch? Keep up the good work! 73 de WM1K
Good test you could have had a bit more flexibility if you had used an external mic would be interesting to see it perform on 70cm just for the record. not licensed yet but me and friends experiment with 446 Mhz using flexible and Yagi antennas and get some amazing results not quite in the same league as you but similar lol all the best from the UK........
I'd love to see a comparison between the Diamond and a half wave collapsible, or just hear opinions on such. I use a half wave 2 meter collapsible for hill topping and such, and have always had very good luck with it.
Hello Eric and 73's. You recommended a Cobweb from MFJ for me a couple of weeks ago. I do not have any Antenna Analyzer at this time and simply cant afford one. Will I be happy with the cobweb if I dont use an analyser (is it accurate enough so I wont harm my transmitter, etc?) out of the box? thanks for your time.
On seeing your results with this antenna I ordered for one myself. Thanks for the review, an HT is by its nature at a disadvantage to begin with, so every little bit of improvement helps.
I have a, i think it's a Diamond SRH 536 on my Baofeng UV-5R handheld radio and i must say it perform surprisingly good with that antenna and the radio has a very good sensitivity. I also have a Yaesu FT-50R handheld radio to with a Diamond SRH 771 antenna who are 1-1/2" longer than the SRH 536 and it's actually less sensitive, but with better strong signal property's in the receiver. I like the Baofeng better actually. Nice video, and 73de from LA5IRA in Norway 😊🇳🇴
I remember I used to use a signal strength meter to test for increase in Kulduckie antennas. I was always surprised at the increase. Wonder what ever happened to them? de WS4K
Few people complaining about you saying "10-4" Honestly that's the one thing I cant stand about this hobby, elitists that think there so much better than anyone else. (specifically CB and other radio services that use 10-4) Grow up, it's not hurting anyone.
I had one of these antennas when I had a ft1dr. It was like a difference. But would been better comparison standing on ground? Not sure many hams are going to be on their roof to talk on an ht
Ryan KC9OZA I needed to be on the fringe to see the difference. On the ground I couldn’t make contact at all It has nothing to do with what you will be operating.
@@ryankc9oza118 Yah, I mean if i did this test with someone full scale it wouldnt be a good test because both antennas would be full scale. A contact too far wont be heard on either antenna, so in the middle, we have this distance which is barely enough on a stock antenna, but better readable with an aftermarket antenna.
@@HamRadioConcepts right. I had one of these little over year ago. Helped me get into repeater that was over 30 miles away. Keep up the good videos man.
Another thing that could help possibly with your range is a HT rat tail. I made one for my ft1dr and I'll receive it made a difference and on transmitted helped a little bit to. Even though it was ugly
You can't go wrong with a Diamond Antenna, have one on the car and it made a huge difference. P.S. stay off the roof, your going to get in trouble - hi hi
I am scared of any Diamond antenna now.. I got a Diamond x50 and it is Deff and cant transmit out of it at all.. My TRAM 1180 mounted on a antenna ground plane smokes it.. I returned it to DX engineering and got a new one and it is just as bad.. E-Mailed Diamond 3 times and never got any thing back.
Na you ain't a wacko cuz if you were you would say KJ4Y ZED I :-) I was surprised when you tilted it and got a better signal. Maybe the last hurricane tilted his antenna??? :-) Look up Distant Signal and let Danny tell you all about that train :-) Happy FD Eric. Might run onto you on 30c again.
So I guess I need to explain this... Under "normal" conditions, I couldn't make contact at all.... There were two decisions to make.. Do I relocate myself a little closer to a point where I can at least be heard? OR, do I get on the roof, for fun, with the bit of height to make it at least able to make the contact, but in a fringe area so I could possibly see a difference. If I tried this with the next door neighbor, i would have full copy full signal no matter which antenna I used, so I picked a distant station, although the distant station was unreadable on the ground. The difference is I went on the roof instead of driving 2 miles closer.. 73
Wow what a radio voice!!!!! I felt like I was transported back in time.
Great test. I could listen to Jim lecture all day.
How about getting up on the roof for a Shootout between this 770s, the Diamond SRH77CA and the Nagoya NA-771? Then we’ll hear which one rules. All of them kill the antennas that come equipped with the radios. Looking forward to it. Thanks- Keith W2LA
My antenna arrived yesterday and holy crap what a difference. It receives really well on uhf. I am hearing signals so much stronger with this antenna. I get great signal reports with repeaters that are 50 plus miles away: i highly recommend this.
That was awesome! It’s always great to hear a couple of experienced operators..
Can't believe you said 10-4 good buddy! Great vid
Lol yeah, dude is a cb jargon lid.
Thanks Eric, always good to see the actual performance of an antenna. Might just have to get myself one!
73 ZL1MY
Just ordered the antenna! Gonna stand on my flat roof and see if I can work my ham buddy 15 miles away on simplex. Stay tuned!
I have one of these SRH770S antennas on my Icom 52A HT. I love it.
Really love theses ht antenna comparisons. Thanks for going to great lengths AND heights to make this video! Fun and interesting stuff......de W2LIR....NY
thanks for the vid I just did an experiment and put my ht in the freezer with the door shut while this operator was transmitting and had just as strong volume and could hear em great.no bacon or picket fencing .
Thanks for the antenna test from Up On The Roof, Eric. It works very well. Shame i'm in another country,. 73 from VK4YST.
Hi Eric and Jim, the wacko thing got me convinced me on hitting the "Subscribe" button :) :) I am new to this hobby, and I'm hoping to learn from watching on CZcams. I'm from the Philippines btw.
Search for my podcast, on any platform like apple, google, iHeartRadio, Amazon, Spotify and more.. some good episodes recently
Thanks for this excellent demonstration. Have ordered one to go on a Kenwood TH-D7 - looking forward to seeing how it performs /M
Hell yeah - Diamond antennas are fantastic!!
Seems like Eric will do anything for a ham radio video even test a ht antenna on his roof of his house. Your neighbor is buying a new set of binoculars on Amazon. Thank you Eric. Mike N6IMY
From 4:03 I thought you chucked the antenna but it was a bird flying passed 😂
Great video. I'll probably be picking this antenna up to add to my collection. The "10-4" comments are funny to me. I've only had my ticket for about 2 years and I believe this hobby is about communication. Everybody knows what "10-4" means so I don't understand why people would gig you for it. Of course, I would _never_ say that on the air...lol...but I don't care when someone else does it. Keep up the great work, Eric. 73
Thanks for your time! This antenna seems to be a great investment, I am going to buy one.
I just purchased the antenna and excited to test
Db doesn't increase the watts it increases the size of the signal.
Great wrap up by Jim
Eric is OUTSTANDING (...on the roof...)!
That discount code saved me $5.00. Thanks!
I have a foldable flat antenna that can u fold to like 4 feet long that’s “dual band” (2m and 70cm) for the beofang’s and it makes a huge difference! I used it on my radios (Murs since not licensed) and the range difference is amazing.. hand held to handheld while ATVing I would say Range has doubled from stock antennas while folded and unfolding it I wouldn’t say Range increased much more but quality of signal increases for sure just a pin in the back end to hold it up so I tied it to a stick where it fold to hold it.
Through the dense woods on stock antennas at 1-2 watts MURS we get about 2-3 miles as long as no hill between us and after about a mile the noise floor almost matches the vocal audio. Putting on the foldable antennas on (but folded) each end we easily cross 6 miles apart with a bit of terrain between us (a few minor hills). And noise floor doesn’t match vocal level till about 2.5 - 3 miles. Unfolded the noise floor doesn’t appear to match vocal level until about 4 miles.. testing them on digital mode 1 watt (I checked nothing in our area we would contaminate with digital audio which is annoying on analog) yields similar results... basically range doubling and half as much choppiness and robotic sounds.
meehhhe Of You was it a aubree antenna
Cody Marston probably or from the same factory in China mass producing stuff if anything... I’m finding out though that it’s trash on a lot of other bands and channels :(
That was class! Anyway, thanks for doing the review Stay safe and 73, de G1DRP.
excellent. thank you 73
Seems like a decent bit of kit. I had been using a MFJ LongRanger half wave telescopic on my HT for SOTA, with great results, but it's delicate and doesn't like getting wet (in the clouds) so am on the hunt for an alternative...
Eric! Keep up the good work!
i thank you need more stuff in your new ham roof shack.
Are you wearing space boots? Hahahaha. Great video!
Thanks for the live demo of the Diamond SRH-770S. However, I’m waiting for Diamond to release the BNC connector version of this model.
73! KN4UOT Eric
Why dont you use an adapter
@@kc1kug82 Why should I use an adapter if the manufacturer offered the antenna with the connector that I prefer, IF they offered it? BTW, Diamond claims they will not offer it with a BNC connector. Maybe if we ask them enough they might.
I think the 45 degree tilt helped you because without it you were broadside to the power lines.
Just a quick question, will that antenna fit the
Yaesu Original FT-65 FT-65R 144/440 ? I just ordered one and would like to upgrade the antenna ASAP, as the radio is only as good as the antenna ;)
And BTW, thank you for the vids, they are helpful and I enjoy them.
Hi Eric, great job again, i love your videos, and this kind too.
Actually I *did* this kind of tests, and i too would not move an inch just to keep the comparison between antennas as accurate as possible :)
Warmest wishes and best 73 de Chris HA7WX
Thanks for this video.
Great video, got to love that professional plug, thanks. KB9JQV 73's
a must have for me
Another fine video. I know this one was a while back, but how about a comparison between this and the Abbree 42 inch? Keep up the good work! 73 de WM1K
Good test you could have had a bit more flexibility if you had used an external mic would be interesting to see it perform on 70cm just for the record. not licensed yet but me and friends experiment with 446 Mhz using flexible and Yagi antennas and get some amazing results not quite in the same league as you but similar lol all the best from the UK........
I'd love to see a comparison between the Diamond and a half wave collapsible, or just hear opinions on such. I use a half wave 2 meter collapsible for hill topping and such, and have always had very good luck with it.
Eric you said 10-4 LOL
How tacky! Should've been "10-4 good buddy." 😎
Bah! I had to start the video over. I caught it on the second run.
Who Cares? I do it all the time on V/UHF
Hello I'm new .. what's wrong with 10-4? Thanks.
@@YoshiYamamoto im ham radio q codes are used😁
Hello Eric and 73's. You recommended a Cobweb from MFJ for me a couple of weeks ago. I do not have any Antenna Analyzer at this time and simply cant afford one. Will I be happy with the cobweb if I dont use an analyser (is it accurate enough so I wont harm my transmitter, etc?) out of the box? thanks for your time.
Really enjoy your vedios Eric. I always learn from them. Thanks. 73
Jeff KF4VQA
On seeing your results with this antenna I ordered for one myself. Thanks for the review, an HT is by its nature at a disadvantage to begin with, so every little bit of improvement helps.
WHERE’D THE TV VIDEO GO?! I was really interested!!
Would a counterpoise help with that and by how much? Enquiring minds want to know : )
What about using some kind of telescopic antenna or a base station antenna to your handheld radio with an adapter
nice
I have a, i think it's a Diamond SRH 536 on my Baofeng UV-5R handheld radio and i must say it perform surprisingly good with that antenna and the radio has a very good sensitivity. I also have a Yaesu FT-50R handheld radio to with a Diamond SRH 771 antenna who are 1-1/2" longer than the SRH 536 and it's actually less sensitive, but with better strong signal property's in the receiver. I like the Baofeng better actually.
Nice video, and 73de from
LA5IRA in Norway 😊🇳🇴
Is this the antenna that we can’t find where to purchase?
www.gigaparts.com/srh770s-144-430mhz-2m-70cm-antenna.html
What is a good 10 watt handheld radio that i can get ??? Wouldn't that radio will give you better signal instead of 5 watt
I remember I used to use a signal strength meter to test for increase in Kulduckie antennas. I was always surprised at the increase. Wonder what ever happened to them? de WS4K
lol "He knows you, knows your a wacko!" best line ever i going to have to use that
Yah, LOL, feel free to use it :)
10 4?
Wont all that leverage on antenna connector break radio if mishandled?
It's possible, if you whip it about
When is this antenna going to be stocked in the US?
Was that Casey Jones steaming and a rolling ?
Few people complaining about you saying "10-4" Honestly that's the one thing I cant stand about this hobby, elitists that think there so much better than anyone else. (specifically CB and other radio services that use 10-4) Grow up, it's not hurting anyone.
Where are you located ? Not only a ham but a railman, too.
Will this work on the cheapo BaoFeng BF-F8HP?
What kind of boots are you wearing there on the roof?
DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY 10-4 TO THAT GUY BEFOUR YOU CHANGED YOUR ANTENNA,, THIS IS N3NDX. 06-05-2019.
😂
Nice
Always enjoy your videos Eric. Thanks and 73. de KC9REN
10-4 good buddy!
I caught that too lol
I had one of these antennas when I had a ft1dr. It was like a difference. But would been better comparison standing on ground? Not sure many hams are going to be on their roof to talk on an ht
Ryan KC9OZA I needed to be on the fringe to see the difference. On the ground I couldn’t make contact at all
It has nothing to do with what you will be operating.
@@HamRadioConcepts ok. That makes sense.
@@ryankc9oza118 Yah, I mean if i did this test with someone full scale it wouldnt be a good test because both antennas would be full scale. A contact too far wont be heard on either antenna, so in the middle, we have this distance which is barely enough on a stock antenna, but better readable with an aftermarket antenna.
@@HamRadioConcepts right. I had one of these little over year ago. Helped me get into repeater that was over 30 miles away. Keep up the good videos man.
Another thing that could help possibly with your range is a HT rat tail. I made one for my ft1dr and I'll receive it made a difference and on transmitted helped a little bit to. Even though it was ugly
You can't go wrong with a Diamond Antenna, have one on the car and it made a huge difference.
P.S. stay off the roof, your going to get in trouble - hi hi
Would it be safe to say that the Diamond SRH antenna from the ground would give you about 5 miles?
From the ground he could hear my transmission but couldnt understand it. To a repeater sure because the antenna at a repeater is much higher...
I am scared of any Diamond antenna now.. I got a Diamond x50 and it is Deff and cant transmit out of it at all.. My TRAM 1180 mounted on a antenna ground plane smokes it..
I returned it to DX engineering and got a new one and it is just as bad.. E-Mailed Diamond 3 times and never got any thing back.
Where can this be bought?
You and that train lol.
Is this a single band antenna?
no, it is dual band
73' dw1wqp from Philippines
Better signal but way too long physically to be very convenient to use on an HT.
Na you ain't a wacko cuz if you were you would say KJ4Y ZED I :-) I was surprised when you tilted it and got a better signal. Maybe the last hurricane tilted his antenna??? :-) Look up Distant Signal and let Danny tell you all about that train :-) Happy FD Eric. Might run onto you on 30c again.
Lol awesome video
SOLD SOLD SOLD!!!! kj4eib
Great test 👍73 KD9OZG
Your awesome! BwaaaaaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa! Something I'd do until my wife found out!
N9ROI Ft. Myers
5db to 50db is a 10db gain
Get off your roof, you wacko lol. 73 from KI6MU
This is not even a test that makes sense, do it on the ground under normal conditions not a roof. Get real!
So I guess I need to explain this... Under "normal" conditions, I couldn't make contact at all.... There were two decisions to make.. Do I relocate myself a little closer to a point where I can at least be heard? OR, do I get on the roof, for fun, with the bit of height to make it at least able to make the contact, but in a fringe area so I could possibly see a difference. If I tried this with the next door neighbor, i would have full copy full signal no matter which antenna I used, so I picked a distant station, although the distant station was unreadable on the ground. The difference is I went on the roof instead of driving 2 miles closer.. 73