Why AREN'T American Men Stylish?
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Please make a video for Indian men as well. Would appreciate a lot.
In practical use in the Midwest, I like to wear crew neck sweaters or oxford shirts, chinos with pleats, leather shoes and Sperry CVO's. It is inspirational to me to watch the movie stars of the 30's and 40's. They wore very nice clothes effortlessly.
I'm a Ukrainian woman who moved to US years ago. Any time I would wear something other than common American clothes, I would get weird comments like "is it your Birthday" or something like that. It's like society discourages you to dress up and it makes me really sad. Any time I travel to Europe I love to see how many people have great taste. They can wear casual things but they look great
Yes, about 60 years ago, Americans dressed with style. This was evident at the office and on Sunday, when people dressed in their best for church. The changes began during the Vietnam war and the counter-culture era. Today, you can see people wearing pajamas out shopping.
@williewonka6694 yes, I've been told many times that "Americans don't judge your outfit". When I moved here I realized that they don't judge if you are wearing pajamas. But they do if you are wearing something better than sweatpants, it means that you're dressed up already. That's crazy.
@@Farhan-hs1bq you're right, thank you! I'm working on it.
Yes indeed. Your only mistake was moving to America. Many natural born Americans are leaving, and there is a reason for that.
The "IDGAF what anybody thinks!" is the cool thing to be here. It helps us all hate eachother.
As a Californian I can safely say dressing up is the rebel thing to do 😂
As a fellow Californian I agree. It's a very necessary rebellion. 💪🏽🇺🇸 Especially for husbands and dads. It's a very worthy investment.
From LA, I agree!
Have you ever seen The Ultimate Fighter Season 22? Conor McGregor is always wearing skintight suits and Uriah Faber is in shorts flip-flops. If it's Las Vegas in the summer, I know what I would rather wear.
Probably illegal too 😊
The best explanation I ever heard. America still needs to return to at least the dignified attire of the 1800 and 1900s. Bring back hats, coats, shoes, gloves. Things that signified you were a man. Most American men dress like overgrown 8-year-olds (t-shirt, shorts, sneakers).
Many american men are well dressed but they do not make front page news....gloves new..hats news....i wear federas..berets..baseball caps....yes i wear double breasted suits..3 piece suits..my wife and i are always more than properly dressed at all times...same goes for our daughter....how many overcoats do i own...just counted..11...my wife..about a zillion😂😅😊...peace
As an Italian I have to say you are completely true. My country has a very big divide between the north and the south with the north that has been severely influenced by the anglo-germanic ideas of equality and efficiency (at least in the past) and therefore here in the north of Italy we have a more classless society while the south has been more influenced by the greco-roman ideas of status and aristocracy. I see that for that reason in the south men are more stylish than in the north
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You're right. I've seen your men. They are fantastically clothed. In the meantime if I dress up slightly as a man in Vienna, some women will call me a gaylord.
I'm not a gaylord. I just have style.
That funny given that the South is so much poorer than the North. Maybe it's projection. The less wealthy you are the more you feel the need to project to others whereas people in wealthier nations let it speak for itself. IDK. Just a theory.
Interestingly, I recently noticed a trend of men dressing properly in northern Germany too. Maybe it is just coincidence, but I see a lot of men wearing the old money aesthetic really well
@@milan51259 You made me laugh out loud when I read this, and the clarification that you are not. 😅
I'm from Ireland and they are even worse dressed
Prior to the mid 60's, American men were very stylish. Professional men wore a suit and tie to the office five days a week and usually a sports jacket on the weekends. My grandfather was probably the most stylish man I've ever known. Never saw him in shorts, leisure wear, blue jeans, a T shirt, a polo shirt, or sneakers. Not once. But since then it's been all downhill. And that trend hasn't just been limited to the US. European are only marginally more stylish than American men. Even the French and Italians have sacrificed style for extreme comfort.
feeling good is more important than looking good outside of your professional life
When I am on vacation in Florida I wear mostly dress shorts if I go out to a nice Restaurant if it’s a higher end restaurant then light weight slacks. Polo shirts are great to wear to dress up an outfit.
Dressing casual is a style. I don’t buy the premise of the video that dressing fancy = stylish. Styles change
Dress code policies have become a lot more lax, more casual than years ago too. If a company's dress code is casual, then not many people will want to dress formally. Also, a lot of people work from home now; so they don't need to dress formally.
@@GNMbg hmm interesting thought process
I was raised by European parents and was always used to wearing stylish, well fitted clothing. Recently, I was on a date at a mid end restaurant and saw a couple walk in. His date was dressed to the 9's while he was in baller shorts, white socks and shower clogs.
So what
The woman should have felt disrespected.
Its always interesting to observe in public, who takes the time to look intelligent and relevant.
I'm hardly a fashionista myself but it's always baffling to see a woman who's all dressed up while her boyfriend is dressed like shit. Like come on man, if your girlfriend is gonna put all that effort into looking nice, you should at least try to do the same.
Then the women complain when it reflects accurately on how he acts in a relationship lol
It's a shame that a lot of people in our nation do not put the effort to look good and I am not even talking about wearing a suit everywhere you go. My casual wear is jeans, a polo or solid color shirt, and some sneakers or boots. I go anywhere that doesn't;t have a dress code and Its sweatpants, slides, etc. It's truly depressing to see that we don't value beauty and aesthetics as we used to.
I love wearing a pair of sharply pressed chinos with polished loafers. But then again I am 80 years old.
funny considering I personally think people who look comfortable in their clothing (including women in tracksuit pants and oversized hoodies) look a lot better than quite a few of their dressier clothes.
just because people dress up doesn't mean they look good in it. just because people don't dress up doesn't mean they don't look good either. it's almost like everyone has personal preferences.
@@TGPDrunknHick lack of reading comprehension is apparent😁
The sad part is I can wear nice jeans and a polo with a nice watch and be dressed better than 90% of the men I see out and about. I go to nice restaurants sometimes and often see men in althlesure wear.
I can sadly agree with that statement, same in Europe though.
@@martijnvangammeren1868 When I was in college nice jeans and a nice tshirt put me a step above most. So many guys were dressing like they just rolled out of bed or were going to the gym.
It's the same in Australia.
I believe sleep ware outside of the home is the worse. I personally can't do it, for it effects me mentally, it makes me feel lazy and unprepared and I become that for the whole day.
@@ironman2326Yup, crazy that it used to be even worse. I'm so glad it's not acceptable to just throw on basketball shorts and a musty graphic t-shirt do basically everything.
Sometimes people ask me if I'm rich because I wear a suit everyday. They also look at my watch even when I'm dressing down. As an American being stylish can make you stand out and sometimes that can be an uncomfortable spot to be in. That being said I've been to Europe a few times so I am very aware of the style choices of the rest of the world.
A suit everyday is a bit too muchi think... of course depending on what you do and where you live
@@MogMan763 Yes I agree. I’ve adjusted it to not quite everyday. On Fridays I wear jeans and oxford or a sweater depending on the weather or the season. Or just a blazer.
Last night I was at a restaurant and I was wearing a suit and tie and a person at the next table asked me if they knew me from a movie or was I a movie star. I get stuff like this often.
We became way to comfortable being casual.
Great video, Antonio. I work in a very multicultural environment and even though most people dress like bums now, I definitely see class divides among the Indian, Chinese, and American employees. And all the Europeans dress like aristocrats. I wear a tie to work and get verbally beat down because we don’t do that any more. It’s pretty sad; I dress like Duck Dynasty and everyone is okay with it. I dress like a professional and people object.
I even experienced that at young adult bible study groups, where I always wore some type of button up shirt untucked and nice straight fit pants. The women loved it, other young males didn't like it, and the older adults in leadership that it was weird that I was more formal then them. hunting camo made me feel like a redneck, cargo pants I felt to tactical, t shirt or hoodie with gym shorts or sweatpants felt to relax or a high schooler.
I would still make it a point to dress, groom and smell like a boss at least once a week. Just to remind everyone where the leaders are in your office without saying a word. 🎯💪🏽
It's cause people value comfort rather than looking professional as many people realize they can still get their work done regardless of what they wear. Personally I could care less what people wear, but once the standard is raised because of one person, other people are then encouraged to dress more professionally which for many people is just not comfortable and restrict their freedoms of clothes to wear to work daily.
Lies again? American Education Fashion Designer
I used to work IT adjacent at the third largest food company in the world. I would show up in a nice polo and slacks sometimes or a button down, and I was dressing like the CEO and the rest of the c suite people, Who were all European or English. Whereas the IT people would wear just t-shirts and stuff, if I was going to wear a T-shirt I made sure it was a nicely tailored one but only on Fridays. Whereas the IT people would wear just t-shirts and if they felt like they had to dress up it was over sized polos. My dressing like the higher up people made all the other IT people so angry, and I have a feeling it's one of the reasons why I am no longer at that job.
as a Swiss it is completely mindboggling to me how Americans think it's ok to leave the house and do errands in pajamas... it's like most people just put clothes on so they're not naked. Do you have no pride in your appearance or self respect?? I could never...
I know; I remember when women wore gloves to go shopping. Nowadays, I think it's a reflection of the desire to emphasize one's individuality and independence.
@@cocoacrispy7802 sure, but can’t that be done while well dressed?😅 and I’m absolutely not against having an eclectic style at all. But pajamas…
As an American, I can confirm that too many of us reserve very little pride or self-respect for our appearances outside of formal gatherings(work doesn't count).
I visited a number of former British colonies and one thing I noticed is that all the schools had uniform mandates. With the basic dress code elements in place, ties, slacks, nice shoes, etc.
I wonder if this baseline of fashion ingrained itself into the way people dress as they get older. It's always been a theory of mine versus the typical American school that has little to no standard for dress.
You are spot on.
How things have changed! My high school (early 60s) had a definite 'No Jeans' dress code. The high school students I see today dress borderline slovenly. Paradoxically, they all want to look like an individual but they all end up looking the same.
It makes me wonder if there are other implications beyond just competency in dress. I imagine studies have been done on this, but I haven't seen any of the research.
I remember having to wear a tie in school. You learn how to tie a Windsor at a young age lol
100% correct.
Great video and appreciate this topic so much! I am an American but have been living in Amsterdam for five years, running a business unit of a UK company. I travel all over the world and experience these style dynamics in Asia, Middle East, and every country in Europe and back in the U.S. All your points are spot on and I appreciate the care people here put into their style and clothing and elsewhere, especially Asia. The biggest cultural difference I notice is that Americans may not care about class, but they are constantly comparing themselves to everyone, it’s a country of individuals. Everyone compares houses, cars, schools, universities, technology as status symbols. So even if they dress poorly, they are still obsessed with what their neighbors, friends, coworkers have. Europeans largely live in similar homes, cars can be nicer, but they really focus their money on travel, experiences and looking damn good while doing it. I had to up my style game while working and living here, it’s required. Thanks for all your videos!
As an Australian man, I would say that American men dress far superior to the average Australian man. We have a tall poppy culture where we tend to drag down anyone who seems to actively present themselves better.
I’ve recently returned from a coastal holiday where I observed that the Australian man’s holiday style is almost nonexistent. I also noticed that often, (but not always), the ladies were intentionally well dressed, but their husband/boyfriend had put zero effort into their appearance, right down to their hygiene, unshaven and in need of haircuts and/or styling. I couldn’t find an example in a fortnight of looking of an intentionally well dressed man with a poorly dressed partner, but plenty of the opposite. We need to pick up our game. Board shorts, flip flops, caps and t-shirts with logos on them are not style.
the surfie-coastie look actually turned into a fashion wave for a while around late 90s. The Billabong brand is still around, though Mambo seems to have disappeared. The hoodie with that sideways belly pocket is here to stay, though
It's the same in Brazil
Well said!🎯 I totally agree.
Bear in mind the impact of weather. Hot climates like Australia's are a major deterrent to wearing stylish items like coats, jackets and ties. I reckon New Zealand would be quite different for example in how the men dress, just because it's a cooler climate than Australia's.
@@pritapp788 kind of makes some sense.
Most American men don’t mind clothes that fit well and look good. But we’re more likely going to prioritize function over fashion.
What is functional about cargo shorts and flip flops?
Extra pockets. Easy carrying capacity. Easy to throw on. Casual and simple.
@@Terecxx Nobody uses the oversized pockets, flip flops are hard to walk in and don't protect your feet....not casual....just sloppy and hideous for grown men. Does not have good form and function. There is reason you would never see James Bond wear something like this....lol.
Like that’s not an excuse to wear sweatpants. You’re not functional, you’re lazy, even down to your wardrobe
It's all about comfort. Americans are comfortable, and don't care about what other people think.
art of manliness, which led me to your channel has changed the way I dressed forever. I come from a family where men wore hoodies, t shirts, relax fitting blue jean, and sneakers. For button up shirts it was only military style short sleeve.
I would add that anti-establishment sentiment that started in the 60's added to it. We started to think that dressing up is something that big corporations make their employees do. I do use this to my advantage. Being the only one in the room with a tie tells people that I'm an important leader.
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Something I've noticed is that many long-time married/family men seemed to have stopped trying. Case in point, last weekend I attended the christening for a very good friend's twins. There was a sharp divide between the married & single men. The married guys looked like they were headed right to the sports bar for wings and beer as soon as they left the church. T-shirts or plain polos, jeans and casual sneakers for them. I even asked one of their wives who I knew well, and she just threw up her hands in exasperation. I'm not a super good looking guy by any metric, but I offset that by how I dress, groom, & carry myself. I had on a bespoke navy blue sport coat, dark blue chinos, a button-up patterned l/s shirt, an inexpensive but nice looking mechanical GMT watch, and dark tan leather wingtips shined up the way that we military vets can do in their sleep. The other single guy there (former USMC) was in a medium grey suite, white shirt , no tie & brushed shined black leather casual shoes. I actually was complimented by a wife who I barely knew. Ladies want their men to look good, but that message seems to have been forgotten by their husbands.
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Kids and a wife that stoped trying to please her husband will do that to you. After a few years it’s all obligations and uninteresting commitments coupled with suspicion from your wife of you do try.
Money that used to go to my suits and overcoats goes to the kid’s after school programs and small getaways for the wife.
I've noticed this too. I've actually continued to build my wardrobe since having gotten married. I like when my wife looks put together, so I try to look good for her. I should clarify, not just for her. I definitely wear things she doesn't love but which I find fashionable/functional, but that's a big part of why I try, because I want her to find me attractive.
It's the very point of marriage! Hahaha
I think there are two main reasons we look like slobs: Firstly, most men are at least overweight if not obese. It's tough to make someone like that look stylish. Secondly, it's in the American psyche that our meritocracy works hard and cares little for appearances, only results. It's a big, fat middle finger to anything resembling the "opposing" aristocracy.
I usually never comment on youtube but I absolutely agree and this is 100% true especially where I live in California. The richest people I've ever met wear flipflops, boardshorts, t-shirts, and don't style their hair yet they still drive 100k + cars and live in multi-million dollar homes. Even at the company I work at results reign supreme. We have guys who frankly look terrible but they do their job very well, are highly respected in their field, and get paid VERY well. Frankly, there genuinely is no need to look stylish (at least where I live now) unless you're trying to attract a mate.
@@k22j28 Looking stylish is expensive too, something I have not seen acknowledged in the comments. Clothes are not a good investment, and spending here and there for new suits, shoes, jackets and shirts can quickly cripple you.
@@pritapp788 So, don't buy new. Dressing well can absolutely be done on a budget
I 100% agree with the obese part. When was the last time you saw an obese man dress with style?
I have to disagree with you. I definitely lean towards the chunky side (125 lbs down so far), and I often receive comments on how dapper I dress. I think the problem is that too many big guys give up on themselves. If you want some examples of big guys with style, Jackie Gleason and Spencer Tracey both come to mind.
I’m from the Netherlands and lived in the US for two years. I went to primary school and high school, and wow, most of my teachers looked like dorks. They had zero sense of style. Same thing with my classmates - they looked like they came to school straight from bed. Now I’m back in Europe, and - most of the time - you can clearly see the differences between American and European teachers in terms of clothing choices.
I see this in work environment, offices in US. People showing up to their professional jobs like they just rolled out of bed. I don't get it.
It's the grown adults that dress like teenagers 🤮
Go visit a regular British town. Sweats and sneakers everywhere
I lived in Japan a long time. Generally speaking, people in Japan have a pretty good sense of style. I got used to it, but for all the years I lived there, I felt under-dressed. I wore a tie and jacket for work but didn't pay much attention to fit, etc. Looking at old photos of myself at the time, my *style* was a disaster. Four years ago I rebooted myself, lost weight, rebuilt my wardrobe (with a lot of help from this channel). Now when I visit Japan, I feel more in tune with the style vibe there - and don't look like the average sloppy-looking American tourist anymore.
I find it funny that in Japan there were stores dedicated to types of American style, including the preppy stuff (which could probably be considered pretty mainstream there, down to the second hand university sweaters) and the "California" style which I found funny as an Californian who also went to an Ivy and didn't really see people dress in either of those styles in the US.
@@danshakuimo There's also the Yanqui, wanna-be Yakuzas thugs who dress like 1950s American greasers.
@@danshakuimo There's a really famous fashion photo book from Japan called "Take Ivy." A group of Japanese fashion photographers toured East Coast Ivy league colleges around the early 1960s and took pictures of American college students in their every day fashions, walking to class, etc. After the pictures were published, it ignited a preppy craze in Japan, with young fashionable Japanese parading around Ginza in their interpretations of American Ivy League collegiate style.
@@danshakuimo There's an interesting history of how the Japanese turned Red Wings boots into a fashion icon. Red Wings were (and still are) a working man's utility boots but became an icon of American style in Japan. Eventually the Red Wings HQ picked up on this rebranding and ran with it. The Japanese also have a thing for vintage American denim.
I love Japanese fashion. So simple and elegant and neutral that can be worn with anything. As I’ve gotten older, Uniqlo is pretty much my entire wardrobe lol.
You can be very well dressed in a t-shirt, jeans and sneakers. It's the all in the fit and quality of the items. Pay attention to what you're buying and how it fits and that alone can go a long way. You don't always need a suit to look good.
Yes…London’s men’s style is just next level. My visits there have had a huge influence on me.
My best friend in college was a guy from European culture, and dressed as such. He always has had an elevated sense of style compared to our peers. We had many discussions about this!
I used to care about looking good with style, then i realize that non of that really matters. I dont care about other peoples opinion on my looks. Now i focus on things that do matter. I will dress for a special occation but most of the time i rather be confortable.
To me your assessment of the reasons why (most) Americans are not stylish (not only women but definitely more evident in men) was very kind. You did use history to rationalize your position but there are more mundane, and unpleasant, reasons. Hint: Education levels are usually low and arrogance levels are commonly high. Folks here are so ignorant about so many things considered commonsense in other countries. I've see many people going to the Opera and Symphonic Concerts very underdressed. I've never seen that in Europe and Latin America. People here commonly get impressed by people who speak multiple languages. That is very common in other parts of the world.
I noticed that myself. Went to Mexico, and noticed women dress up to go to buy a kilo of tortillas at the corner of your house, came back to US and noticed women were pjs to Walmart, target, school, even at the malls😂😂😂
So true! It’s the same in Japan as well. People all dress nice to even just go to a McDonalds, while in the US girls and guys looking like they just got out of bed lol
Even wearing summer clothing in the middle of winter with snow on the ground. Our controlled indoor environments in buildings and vehicles are also effecting fashion. All this is going to bit people in the ass. I already helped a couple who crashed their car in winter and were freezing due to wearing summer clothes in winter.
It’s self-respect and lack of it on the other side.
I go to an American high school and when it’s winter almost EVERYONE wears pj pants at least everyone has wear it once. Some of my classmates literally look like they just came out of bed. I never wear pj at school (unless it’s pj day) it just makes me feel lazy and I want to put effort in my outfits everyday even if ppl say “it’s just school why dress so good”GIRL I want to look good…(for my crush 💀)
America has different cultural categories about fashion. The one fashion in America that's always popular is individualism. Completely backwards is another way of understanding It. Although finding a cheap Suit is easier than most people think. Cleanliness is very important. Then improvising with shoe polish to change the color of shoes or boots. Just never thought I'd need a Suit. But sometimes there's those occasions.
it's not the clothes it's the fitting what is important, and for that you need to go with a good tailor, and that can be a little pricey and take time.
Italians look gay in America in their non suited form. I have an Italian friend and when he first came here without adjusting his clothes people thought he was gay. People don’t like to be associated with subcultures they aren’t members of and the song “Gay or European” is an excellent summary of the American view on a lot of European fashion trends.
Americans dress far too casual far too often. We dress like this so often that when a man steps it up just one or two notches he stands out.
The bare minimum makes you stand out. If you tuck a button up shirt in, that's considered "neat" now. Essentially anything above a t-shirt or hoodie comes across as trying too hard.
You're spot on that comfort is king in America. The problem is, I don't want to be surrounded by comfortable people. I want to be surrounded by classy people. And generally speaking, people who dress classy act classy. And people who dress selfishly (comfortably) act selfishly. Our culture is on the downward spiral in more ways than one. And everybody walking around in their jammies is indicative of our degeneration. I'm tired of it. Obesity, dressing like crap, and disgusting body modifications are bumming me out.
Sounds like you spend too much time and effort focusing on what other people are doing with themselves. Letting yourself get bitter over what other people choose to do or not do is gonna lead you down a really negative and depressing path.
@@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 Too late. Already down that path. If people had their acts together a little better, maybe we wouldn't be suffering from so many of the problems we do as a society. But people's priorities are all messed up and I'm not happy about it. And I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into pretending it's all right, when it isn't.
@sethmoking I was saying all that stuff because I'm tuned in, and am a massively jaded prick 😂
Truly, ignorance is bliss.
@@sethmoking And you think that by dressing better these societal problems would just go away. Look at Bob. Bob was depressed but we put him in a suit and now Bob is happy.
@@Joey21071 Making this comment for a second time, because the first time isn't showing up for anybody other than myself: Honestly, yes. When you project self-worth to others, you're also projecting self-worth on yourself. It's the same with getting haircuts, shaving, bathing, etc. If you look good, you'll feel good. Or at least better than you would otherwise. Secondly, when you're surrounded by people who look like crap, you're likely going to be more unhappy than if you're surrounded by people who look good. So, by dressing well, you're actually helping society, even if just a little bit.
Interesting video. One aspect that I have thought about that wasn't covered in the video is that in cities such as Paris, but also New York, many people don't have cars to signal status. Therefore, the clothes you wear become the outer shell to reflect status. In much of America, the car someone drives is used in lieu of clothing.
Very interesting point.
Great observation. Generally speaking, Los Angeles is one of those places where this absolutely holds true. Dressing for comfort takes priority here and it is more about what you do and who you are than what you wear.
Yeah cars are definitely a status sign.
One very good shortcut to being stylish is buying premium fall/winter clothings. You buy a nice jacket or overcoat once, and you wear it in the next 4-5 or more years. You wear different shirts under it and each time you look different. Another one is wearing pants instead of shorts. Shorts have their own benefit, but wearing them everywhere makes you look tacky or like a teenager
This reminds me of something Allan Flusser said, along the lines of: people talk more about fashion than ever in history, more clohes are made than ever, more resources exist to dress well, and yet people dress more poorly than ever.
Most men in the US dress like big kids. You can see this at most airports! The worst offense is men wearing NFL football jerseys...guys your not little boys, put some effort in when choosing your clothes!
I agree. I fly a lot, and it's so apparent how poorly most male travelers dress. At least give it a little effort.
My son commented that I dress like a tween. I replied that I like my new r2d2 Tshirt too! And I would totally wear it on a plane.
oh no, traveling on an plane. definitely need to look good for the flight in an uncomfortable tube I might be spending hours and hours of my life in, rather than just wear something I'll be comfortable in. /s
Very interesting video, BUT: there’s no excuse wearing pyjamas while shopping 😢
Great video! I am German and was on an exhibition with my US colleagues in LA years back. A lady came to me and asked me why the suits of us Europeans are different from the Americans. You could easily figure who was from the US office and who was from abroad :) I had no idea.
In the defense of my American mates: Europeans dress different but still not much better. I spent the last week in China and Singapore for business and I have seen very few guys in well fitted suits either.
Im a tailor of historical suits. Someone once said to me "English suits feel like a straight jacket, Italian suits feel like a lambswool sweater and Anercian suits feel like they are someone else's"
The answer is American suburbia and suburban living. When you live a lifestyle centered around traveling isolated in a car and big house, there's less social pressure to dress nice because no one sees you except when you dash into the grocery store. When you live in a downtown core where you are walking and visible to everyone, there's a tendency to dress more presentable. While the Europeans tend to dress nicer, this perception is amplified because when Americans travel to Europe they hit the urban spots: Paris, Milan, London, etc.
actual good comment. You'll notice people in NYC are fixated on fashion
So true
I was taught that 'dressing up', as fits the occasion, shows respect towards others. Dressing to feel comfortable is no excuse for being slovenly. But then, people pay big money to fashion houses who charge top dollar for new clothing that looks used (ex. blue jeans with rips everywhere).
True, this channel is just a guy turned on by suits if we're being honest. Not saying that's a bad thing but, his "style" literally is just wear a suit. 😂
It's maddening how people think you can only be comfortable if you look like a bum... There are so many great clothing items out there than can do both. Stylish AND comfortable is really not that hard to accomplish. To me it just sounds like a lazy excuse.
@@bluefungiHe shows casual clothes literally all the time. This is patently false
Antonio - long time fan, never commented before, but as a multiracial/multicultural person who has traveled the world and lived abroad I've always noticed what you pointed out but never really understood it to the degree that you so succinctly explained it. Indeed, culture is largely developed historically. You really did a great job covering so many bases and explaining this. Bravo!! And as someone who married into a USMC family - Semper FI!
This is a very interesting analysis. I'll never forget watching passengers waiting to get on a plane from Brazil to the U.S. It startled me how both American men and women were dressed for comfort, wearing sweats, whereas we Brazilians were over dressed. I actually think you guys got it right in this sense, since it makes more sense to be comfortable in a long-haul flight (I also prefer your mentality of substance over style). For us, on the other hand, vacationing overseas is usually a much bigger deal, since we tend to have less money than you, so we also dress accordingly for the situation. Anyways, great video (as usual)!
I'm Canadian and I remember being in a London airport and I could pick out all the Canadians with their fleece and hiking boots, neat and tidy mind, but still :) I meet in the middle with a nice wool dress and cardigan, no wrinkles and comfortable.
I just left Budapest last week. A friend there asked me if I noticed anything different between America, where I'm from and Hungary. Without pause, I said style, European as whole, are more stylish. If you go, check out shoes alone, they're almost always very clean and stylish.
I love videos like this because they're thought-provoking. I'm an American and I frequently travel solo to other countries.
I think American men are not stylish because of our "all men are created equal" mentality which does not allow for 'classes'. You hear so often men saying, "If I am paying $85 for a steak, I'll eat it any damn way I want. Don't like my table manners? Fuck you!" American men have a total feeling of independence from and distain for someone else putting ANY limits or even suggestions to do things a different way. A lot of guys look and dress very poorly because they don's give a shit what anyone else thinks of them. I make the attempt because I care about me, not others opinions. I like to feel good about myself. So many others literally don't care.
Total cap. How do you dress on a Tuesday night at home alone with no one around and no plans? Unless you're dressed your best when you're alone at home, it is actually other's opinions that you care about.
And perhaps those people who aren't so insecure they're overly concerned with how they look, or your opinion about it? I can promise you they don't feel as strongly about you as you evidently feel about them. Maybe they're more focussed on actually being successful (which has very little to do with apparel) and not looking like it to you? Among the overly stylish Europeon men I know, most of them look successful, while few of them actually are.
@@michaelmannucci8585 People should care about other peoples' opinions a bit more in the US. The whole "It doesn't matter what you wear. Wear whatever you want. It shouldn't matter" makes things too casual, and if you've flown in the last few years, you know first hand that when things become too casual things start going to shit. Everyone starts looking like they're in a refugee camp and this attitude spills over into areas outside of clothing. Eventually this outlook spreads into peoples' behavior in public and their cleanliness. It's disgusting.
@@BLdontM There's a big difference between wanting to dress well (which is subjective), your personal hygene, etc. and thinking you're some high-minded person because you wear a blazer and a tie, and that others are lower-class than you because they don't. The problem with the degredation of western society isn't because people started wearing t-shirts, it's because they abandoned the foundational Christian worldview which made America the greatest nation on earth (which it probably still is, but that could change if they don't get their act together... I am not an American and don't live in America, by the way).
I full heartedly agree. I don't even think men need to wear full suits to be "dressed up" but most men here in the US just straight up don't care. I always wear a nice fitting pair of jeans and a well fitted polo or plain shirt pretty much wherever I go as well as do my hair and often get looks or questions like "going out somewhere, have a hot date? Etc.). I'm not even dressed up in many standards but compared to the usual baggy shorts/sweatpants and raggedy tshirt most guys where, just a well fitted pair of jeans and shirt go a long way here.
There is something to that
My issues are with the men that take pride in not caring about their style. Oh, and flannel pajama pants with crocs is not a "style" and should not be allowed in airports.
From my personal experience, the major cities e.g., New York, Chicago, Atlanta, etc., seems to care more about fashion/style than the outer communities.
I am a city guy, I literally wear some form of a button-up everyday throughout the week. During the week, a sports coat or blazer is mandatory in my eyes.
Very good overview, specific to style. You put in the work here, and I see it. Fantastic job.
On the other hand when I grew up as a teenager in Germany, we were actually looking at the US for style inspiration. But I guess it was more a pop culture thing.
I never understand the idea that jeans are comfortable. They aren’t.
I dress nice and everyone loves it. Doesn't matter where I go. A lot of suits aren't really that expensive and you can even find some at thrift stores.
Most people in the UK don't dress well, hoodies and sportswear are the norm in most parts of the *Black Country* where I live.
Saying that, even poor people dressed well 100 years ago (e.g. Peaky Blinders), seems (most) people don't care about dressing well anymore.
It heavily depends on which part you are in. And what social group you belong too. You can find everything in a city like London. And yes I have been in London quite some times also at Friday nights.. Some don't dress that well, to make it sound better than it is. On the other hand depends on which places you go as I also saw a lot of guys wearing single or double breasted sport coats and nice shoes.
Rap "culture" has destroyed Black style.
What an interesting topic. Years ago, I read a book called The Lost Art of Dress. It’s about how women’s fashion changed over the years. This video reminded me of the book. I think I’ll need to reread it.
I got tired of wearing sweatpants and jeans all the time with graphic tees and hoodies. I took a big step and started wearing chinos and trousers with boots (looking into loafers now). This is something I decided on my own and lemme tell ya, here in the US, especially if your young your peers really do take notice, I’ve gotten more attention from girls but the biggest thing to take away from my post isn’t to do what I do but to get outta your comfort zone and try something different, might work out might not but at least you can say you didn’t let your comfortability hold you down attire wise.
People should check out Japan. People are extremely stylish as the norm over there as looks and personal image has a very high weighting on how others interpret you. A rigid corporate culture also plays into this high standard
Hmm and they also have the highest depression rates, I wonder why. 😅
But they can't get rid of the giant flying reptiles or fire breathing dinosaurs. It's so difficult for Godzilla to get a blazer that fits, or for Rodan to get a shirt with the proper sleeve length.
Great video as usual! Long time fan; maybe 10 years now. I love the history and context you provided and it makes a lot of sense when you look at it that way. If you look at how people take care of their bodies in the US, I think you can say most people over the last few decades, just don't care anymore. I think they're more content with just finding something that fits. The crazy thing to me is that fashionable items, when you shop around, are the same price or less than non stylish clothes. People will pay 50-100 for one piece of athliesure clothing, but can't fathom spending $1-150 on a nice pair of Oxfords or a sport coat. Having style takes some effort. Learning what matches what isnt easy starting out. That's why I started following your channel in the first place. I think it's a combination of not caring and general laziness. You take a person that's depressed and one that is happy, I'd say the happier person likely is taking better care of their appearance. So it also could be a reflection of our society as a whole right now. I certainly judge people on their appearance; cant help that. It's not like you need a suit and tie on all the time, but just a concerted effort to buy well-fitting clothes and clothes that match.
American men and women in used to dress very well back in the 1960s and before.
Europeans, for example the French, relish the little joys in life.
For example, food: in the morning, they stop before work at a bar and sip their espresso in a small porcelain cup. In lunchtime they go to a restaurant for 1-2 hours, including a dessert, like a plate of cheeses. They do distinguish between many kinds of cheese, which differ between countries and even regions. Before coming back from work they go to a bakery to buy a freshly baked crunchy baguette.
Americans: hurry to work, holding a paper cup with brown liquid from Starbucks, hurry to eat lunch (leftovers from yesterday) in front of the computer or else they’ll be fired - time is money, and it’s the employer’s time. The name café exists, but it means a burger joint, not a place with good tea/coffee served in glass and cakes. No glass for coffee, only plastic cups throughout the entire US. Types of cheese? Yes, it’s called AMERICAN cheese. It tastes like… brrr… Bread is bought as soft, pale white slices (like in the UK) wrapped in plastic and made to be preserved for weeks. Since Mayflower, haven’t Americans learned how to make good bread, or to open a decent bakery? Benjamin Franklin practiced his French in Paris - he should have taken some baking lessons. Food in America is fast. Easy. Industrialized. Loaded with preservatives (we don’t want to be sued for food poisoning, right?)
And the funny thing is that Americans don’t feel the need for such joys. Not food, not museums, not restaurants by the river. They want to work hard and use their HARD-EARNED DOLLARS (which they don’t want to waste on unnecessary stuff like baguettes, social security for the unemployed or cufflinks) - they invest it and buy stuff (I don’t know what. Stocks?).
The same way they grab the first pale bread in a plastic bag they find in the supermarket, they grab their simplest shorts when they go to the store or to Paris. *IF* they ever go to Paris. An American once told me: what’s so special about Paris? You can get everything in the US.
Some serious thought and research went into this video. Amazing work.
Great video, and thanks for the history lesson. I really enjoyed this.
Thanks for checking it out!
I am perfect as myself. I don't dress up for my own sake, I do it for the other people. I'm putting on nice clothes so others have a delightful background for their own world.
It's called being civilized.
It's depressing to get out of your house to see poorly dressed people, ugly houses and boring cars.
@@Bibyte It's not. Everbody is beautiful. Everything is perfect.
@@robertcapek2425bro’s living in a fantasy 😂
@@robertcapek2425 who brainwashed him 💀
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Class is a matter of perception. My father in law worked at a steel mill his whole life. Every week he went to church and saw a lot of his co workers. Though he made the same salary more or less as his peers, he always was the best dressed and the family sedan was always freshly washed.
100% I think thats what people are missing in the comments. If you look like a slob chances are you live like one. Its just an assumption we all make
This is sooooo true. I just came back from the UK AND EVERYONE IS SO STYLISH.
Agreed!
I would agree with what you said at the beginning. I went to London and Paris with my family last summer. When I came back, I noticed just how poorly many Americans dress. Everything seems cheap, whereas people in Europe seem to pay more attention to clothing.
I really appreciate your videos , dad didn't teach me much , I am learning a lot from you thank you
This means a lot coming from you guys. I appreciate you too.
You should check out Sartorial Talks then.
Nothing beats a polo and a slim fit denim paired with Nautica voyage / azzaro chrome . 🇺🇲🇺🇲
When my parents went to college, men wore coat and tie. When I went to college, I wore blue jeans and dirty sweatshirt. Plus a suit for funerals, weddings, and job interviews. Actual jobs--no tie.
I think the other issue is in North America a big name emblazoned across your shirt advertises your apparent wealth. Gucci, LV, Supreme, etc. We're substituting designer names and items to showcase status rather than actual style. And we likely bought it on credit :/
I think most Americans just simply dont care about there self image. I think most Americans are brought up thinking that just because we live in a country of free will thats whatt people to do as they wish. People who dress nice look good I've been learning this and still learning for only 2 years now and i definitely can tell i look better than the way i did before by investing my money in better quality and better looking clothing. 100% of the time i just wore t shirts jeans/shorts and sneakers now i wear chinos dark wash denim polo shirts sweaters dress shoes or boots drees shirts or something other kind of shirt that buttons
Funny how now self imagine had more been important since tiktok take over the media everyone want to looks good for the camera
My grandparents ALWAYS looked classy and sharp, whatever the occasion (wedding, beach party, anywhere at all). That's the way America used to dress. People would often ask my grandfather if he was a movie star (even though he grew up on a farm).
@@huynhyurivanvladamir7978I've noticed this too. Whole lotta narcissistic behavior goin on lately. All for show. When will they learn, this shit is toxic and your personality is what people will interact with more. Having a suit or a nice piece of clothing doesn't make you better than anyone else on the planet.
I don't think this is the case.
Self image is highly important everywhere. What is considered high fashion, however, is what is debated.
Kanye West sold an oversized t shirt for 90 bucks. And it sold out.
Gwen Stefani made thong showing, weird stringy shirts a look. And people flocked to it.
It is the same as it always is. Media makes the heroes. Rugged individuals were sought after. It all started with James Dean.
"What are you rebelling against?"
"What do you got?".
And what was he wearing? Contrary to the buttoned down masses. T shirts and jeans. The girls loved him. The guys wanted to copy him.
It's that easy
Thanks for your insightful analysis. Semper Fidelis!
Bro comparing London to America in regards to dressing isn’t fair. Go almost anywhere else in the world and they are wearing American clothes from 2 decades prior😂
From Mexico, I concur
Mad cope right there
AS someone who has been in the US many times over the last decades but lives in Europe I don't agree with that statement.
That's just not true. Should take a trip to Europe. Most people are more stylish in the countries I've seen.
Americans are also more likely to love plus size clothing. There's a lot of influence from the hip hop scene.
Good fit is not that important here. Rather comfortable.
I am starting to wear nicer clothing and people wonder why but I don't care. I like the way I look and dress, now, more than I did many years ago. I needed channels like this to give me the bump I needed to start.
Well yea, you see only you care at the end of the day.
Your personality is what people interact with not your clothes. You'll realize 99% of people are superficial as hell and judge you based on looks because they're trying hard to hide their wet dishrag personality that crawled straight outta the bathroom mirror making the same face everyday and taking pictures of themselves. Then saying "hey notice me, I wear clothes". Look thru the comments if you don't believe me. 😂
I just came back from Italy...Milan and Florence.... Yes, those are epicenters of fashion so it was no surprise how awesome everyone looked. Everyone, old and young, was so freakin' stylish. I did my best to fit in. Then I come back home to San Antonio, TX, Frump City USA and just shake my head. It's bad here!
We also smell bad here in the US....I love going to every other country in the world and everyone smells like heavy cologne/perfume.
Great report!
Excellent connection of history, culture and style. I agree with everything you said.
I'd like to add one more point. The style industry is equally to blame.
Look at the picture you used to represent the New York style scene. (0:52) I wouldn't be caught dead looking like that. Putting men in rompers and schoolgirl dresses brings out a visceral disgust in "fashion" that can't be properly explained. It's repulsive to the ultimate degree.
And I agree with everything YOU said.
For years now hollywood has been brainwashing us, mainly through comedy sitcoms that dressing well is somehow gay, that if you have a sense of style you're gay or at least very feminine.
And now we have the agenda for making everything androgenous, fashion being the tip of the sword.
I was just thinking about this literally a half hour before this video released. Over the last five years I've been getting a lot into heritage clothing, i love the early 20th century look f4om the 1900 to the 1940s
I hope you do more of these cultural/economic histories wrt fashion, stuff like this is not at all easy to find!
Love the history and insights on this channel! 👊
Personally, working in the oilfield reduces my wardrobe to a pair of FR pants and 3 FR shirts. And that's my working day. After hours it's just sweats and old t shirts. Don't really have anything to do or anywhere to be.
Some cats need to speak for themselves. I’ve always had style. Everywhere I’ve been in the world,, I look extremely cool & unique. Nothing over the top. Nothing crazy expensive. Just me being funky Cool me. That said,, he makes a valid point. While traveling to different parts of the world,, I would occasionally run into American American men that did not dress their best. Sometimes they dressed in cargo pants and a T-shirt with a baseball cap. Or some extremely conservative outfit,, void of color or interesting fabrics.
great video - learnt quite a bit on fashion history
As an American myself, I've also noticed this with other Americans. I have a couple of theories why:
- Heat. America in most places is typically hotter than most places in Europe. It's easier to dress up and have style when it isn't always 35+ degrees. That's why so many Americans love sports wear, to keep cool.
- Rural culture. I notice that most Americans revere rural ways of living. Working blue-collar jobs, driving pick-up trucks, and living in the country are seen as "cool" here, so it's only natural many want to dress in clothes suited for that life, like baseball caps, wrap around sunglasses, cargo shorts, etc.
- Conformity. Maybe this isn't the case in world-class American cities, but in most of America, you will seen as "odd" if you try to dress up and be fashionable. Since most people don't want to be seen as the odd one, they dress like everyone else.
For me, when I visited Portugal, Italy, and Germany, I was so inspired by just how well they dress there. They wear nice coats, suits, good shirts, and I love it. Hence when I got back here, I started to dress like how I saw the men over there dress. Do people here look at me weird? Yeah. But at the same time, I look at them in their cargo shorts and hoodies weird.
I am from Colombia 🇨🇴 & South America Country they dress 👗 very nice & we women are very Feminine & Elegant.. Viva our Hispanic Heritage from Our Mother Land Spain.. Ole! 🌹
Our American infantile obsession with sneakers, makes us look terrible. Some of us wear sneakers with suits (classless). Most adult American men don’t know with proper care a $400 pair of quality Goodyear welted shoes will last decades. They prefer to drop thousands of dollars on SNEAKERS.
Yes the style of footwear in the USA is horrible. I wear Alden shoes made in the USA and I feel like a king among the sneaker wearing slobs. They just dont know any better.
I love this eye opener
Excellent content!
I’m from Omaha I m 26 I wear suit every day when I go out on the town 😅
Good video, Antonio, very educational! Something to consider, the average European man has a lower BMI, than the average American man. Therefore they do not gravitate to roomier, and stretch comfort clothing.
Very interesting points. Never thought before.
Here in England most of us, nearly all, aren't stylish. We have a 'smart' clothes mode for going to the pub/out or smart work clothes. I respect people that want to be stylish or are stylish. Truthfully though I see "Style" as a form of deception, as if someone is trying to fool others into believing they are something special. That said I do on special occasions try to dress stylishly smart. Stylishness to me from my experience most of the time, isn't genuine.
Yea, that's kinda what this whole channel is I found. It's pretty funny to think these people actually care this much about covering their skin. Sounds like they need to workout and or socialize more.
Covering up insecurities and having to remind everyone that you wear nice clothes isn't the least bit attractive. These people could like they on a high horse and wonder everyone dislikes them.
@@bluefungi Or some people can actually enjoy nice clothes and fashion… I don’t like that guys who wear nice clothes are often labeled as “arrogant” or ”metrosexual”.
The same applies to Canadians. I do take issue of your one opening shot of so-called stylish European men. One of the most ridiculous fashion trends is bare ankles with suits or dress pants. Honestly, I think bare ankles with pants are awful in general, but they are especially bad with suits. What's trendy is often what you want to avoid. Stick to the classics.
Many of the newer suits come with pants that are too tight. Cut like blue jeans
@fredeaston3988 you're absolutely right. A good example of how suits should fit is to look at Cary Grant in North by Northwest.
As a Texan, and a UT fan in particular, I appreciate that mention of UT as a great state school. You clearly have your priorities in order, good Sir.
Excelent video, Antonio, simple, direct and very sociologic and antropologic accurate =)
Its just sad if you dont understand the power of dressing well. Of course what matters is what you are as a person but if its something that can give you leverage and make you feel better, why ignore it?