This Show ALREADY The #1 Rated Anime??
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Frieren's success isn't spontaneous like for example Oshi No Ko which caught the world by surprise with its banger of a first episode. Instead Frieren gradually hooks you and gets better the more it progresses. It's gonna be a staple for a while
I don't know it was pretty similar. They launched the first 4 episodes all at once. And after that people have just loved it.
It's mostly because it's all themed around the nostalgia of a person's life and only really appreciating moments in hind sight and how fleeting good times can be. It is a very emotional show. And it does have good action and fantasy scenes with a well fleshed out world and really likeable characters. It is hard to say anything bad about frieren.
I don't think it's the best of all time. But at the same time it's hard to pick faults. It just really matters if they can stick the ending. I think it also helps that it's sticking pretty closely to setting everyone loves which is lord of the rings styled fantasy too.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu When it came out people though it was really good but it wasn't nearly number 1 I'm pretty sure when Frieren secured the #1 spot was (spoilers and also correct me if I'm wrong)
When Fern fought one of the Aura's assistants with the really good animation is when it's rating really started to reach #1. Personally for me if Frieren stays the same quality as it is right now for the entire show it's top 20 on my list or maybe top 15
Still not the greatest anime of all time lmao. Not even close.
@@willlowry2288literally every anime fan be like😂
@@willlowry2288 I mean why does it matter when the one holding that spot isn’t either?
Frieren is so good. I'm glad we're getting 28 episodes.
ME TOO : ))))))))))))))
I agree it's not quite #1 though probably like top 10
@@Lilo_D._Boom yup
I'd say even w/ recency bias it was a top 2 show of last year at least for me
Damn this aged like milk
I’m glad a show like Frieren is getting so much love, that and the apothecary diaries are definitely my favourite shows from the fall season. I don’t think it’s number 1 but I’m not exactly against it. It’s going to be interesting to see how long Frieren fans can vie with fmab fans for the number 1 spot.
FMA doesn't have fans, they are hitmen.
Frieren has 1.8% 1/10 votes. FMAB has a 2.4% 1/10 votes.
The "I want my new favourite anime to be #1" petty stans outnumber the "I want FMAB to stay #1" stans
@@jayrodr897 I think it's so petty to have this kind of toxic competition, at the end of the day it's just a list on one of the many sites. I haven't watched Frieren yet, so I don't have any comments on that (I did watch Apothecary diaries, which I loved, so I'm expecting to like Frieren too), but I watched FmAB and I personally consider it far from #1, but definitely nowhere near 1/10 in rating.
It's also so easy to spot when ratings are given for the sole reason of lowering scores if the shows in question are such highly praised works. Obviously there are a few who genuinely didn't like the shows, but I doubt they'd go as far as to rate 1 or 2 (most myanimelist users have like 4-5 as their lowest ratings, 1-2 are generally reserved for actually terrible shows), some who just like to be contrarians, and the vast majority is people that can't accept that something else is more "critically acclaimed" than their favourite show.
@@jayrodr897 Keep in mind that those 1/10's are from many fanbases over a span of years
@@jayrodr897 You're telling me there are more hardcore fans in all other communities combined than there is in just the FMAB community ? Shoot, what a surprise !
I'm having an aneurysm watching Garnt explain FMAB. My fucking God.
Disagree, it's not recency bias. Most of the animes rating falls off after a month. Frieren went from 9.09 to 9.15 in MAL.
Nearly 9.4 now. That's really impressive considering getting a rating that high requires almost 20 10/10's for every 1/10, and you need 3 10's to balance out an 8. It's been a few weeks since it finished too so this isn't recency bias, Frieren really is THAT good.
@@megaultrasonicit's really not 'that' good, people are calling it the best when it doesn't even top this year's list. Vinland saga is really better than freiren, yup freiren is good especially with its new concept and the refreshment (especially the emotionally scenes) but that's just it, it's story isn't really that good, the plot is really predictable especially in the manga and the concept of development is better in vinland saga
@@bakapatato woooowwww lol L take. And almost 5 months later and its average score is STILL INCREASING... Hadn't dipped in the slightest. It might not be for everyone, but it's objectively an AMAZING story and deserves its spot..
@@kamikaze.33 dude you aren't getting what I am trying to say, it doesn't deserve the top spot at all, it should be at the top 50 at best. I have even read the manga(it kinda becomes predictable later on) trust me I can name like 20 anime on the spot which are better than freiren, I am not saying that freiren is a bad anime, in fact it's one of the best anime I have watched this year but still you can't change the fact that it is extremely overrated
Frieren has not put a foot wrong yet in the production, the pacing is perfect (not too slow or too fast), the story is solid and the characters are relatable and well-written. Sure recency bias is perhaps a factor so maybe it belongs in the top 10 with how it's performed so far but I don't believe it should be much lower (currently it is my personal number 1). Still, there is a long way to go though before a final conclusion.
Truly some Trash Taste going on here. Gant still hasnt watch FMA yet talks about it. Joey says Frieren iant even top 50. . .
Of course there is recency bias but Frieren in my opinion is better than JJK s2 lol
I agree
but they both totally different shows I think this should be compared to something similar to another fantasy cough cough.
@@Qbone_ yeah i know, it probably depends on your type of taste for anime. I loved both shows but Frieren is very special for me
fr I don't watch fmab yet so i can't judge that, but frieren is just better than jjk lol
@@quanglk5331 fmab is excellent, is not my top 1 but i get it, the guys are right on what they say about that, is like choosing pizza
i like frieren maybe because the storytelling, i dont really care what rank it is in an anime website.
That too on a list that’s decided by audience.
Gigguk eats his words later on in a stream
ohhh...u have a link? i wannna seee it
@@nelg1994 I think you can find the clip on youtube if you search. I think in his latest Frieren video as well, he said he is not generally wrong unless when he is absolutely wrong🤣. You can check that video out as well.
When we needed him most, he vanished
Frieren fucks pretty hard, ngl.
It's one of the best things I've read/watched in years.
I honestly think Frieren already deserves a spot in the top 25 but number one is of course too high for an ongoing series. As always it will go down over time though so nothing to really be concerned about.
Most of the sudden #1 MAL shows over the last couple years (Kaguya S3, Bleach TYBW, Oshi no Ko) had lost that spot after 6ish episodes so it’s pretty impressive that it’s still trucking on at #1. Even after they recorded this (12 ep in) the score still went up higher
@@linkaj12 Kaguya maintained its spot till the season had ended tho. In fact I remember the news hitting when the season was at least halfway through
This wont last long, how about now? Top rank 1 double the scores
Overtime frieren in the present time increasing the scoreboard
4 months later and it's still number 1, and get this, it's average score is even significantly higher than it was 4 months ago!
Meanwhile frierenn's rating only gone up
frieren is personally my #1 out of about 400 other manga i've read/been reading as they release. i've been keeping up with it for about 3 years now. other series have higher peaks for sure, but frieren is consistently great, each arc still better than the last, i adore it. though i do think it shouldn't be #1 on MAL yet considering where the anime is. regardless, very happy it's getting so much love
it's meh
@@iconickjlee4960 It's not like your life bro.
Shoutout to Aura. Even though she had a minor role, she became a fan favorite. I would love to see her again in a future chapter!
Are you talking about in a flashback cause otherwise she’s dead
@@technic3750 Yep. Or another time travel.
As a ghost hopefully.
Frieren is the anime which is getting me back into anime. It looks at mortality in a different way than most would consider. I can see Frieren staying in the top 10. Maybe even reach the top 5. But FMA: Brotherhood was good, so damn good. But it does have its half step brother non-brotherhood which now gets forgotten but was also quite good.
FMA03 ❤❤❤❤❤
The fact that Frieren is still number one in MAL proves it is legit amazing. The sakuga animation in the action scene is what keeps everyone hooked now that the first class mage exam arc has begun.
Truly deserves to be anime of the year.
FMAB fans are aware of the flak so they're holding back for now
kinda crazy that Frieren hasnt been review bombed yet like other animes, i feel like it happened almost instantly before
Because other times people pushed shows to #1 on MAL it was very obviously being manipulated.
Nobody went into Episode 1 thinking Frieren would be #1, the show legitimately earned that amount of love and surprised people with how highly rated it became.
@@pax6833I also think that it's the sort of show FMAB fans would like, mind. That doesn't take away from Frieren, which is incredible, but it probably helps hold the arseholes at bay.
2 things can be true. 1. Frieren is not the best anime of all time. 2. Every episode is masterfully written.
It’s a 10/10, for me, so far 🤷🏻♂️
if every episode is 10/10 how its not the best of all time 😅
@@theep89 Because to be truly great you need to be inspired rather than just meticulously execute. The writing is decent but the setting and characters are generic, it doesn't have outstanding or novel art design. A photgraph might be the most accurate depiction of a real object that you can get, but that doesn't make it superior to a painting.
@@theep89 mostly because the series is ongoing. I don’t agree with Jazzy’s take.
@@jazzy4830 if Frieren doesn’t inspire you to cherish little things in life that we take for granted, than IDK what to tell you 🤷🏻♂️
@@werdnaxela9553 Not 'Inspiring' as in you feel encouraged by it, 'Inspired' as in something entirely creative and new.
Brotherhood wasn't even a full adaptation and skipped a lot of early stuff. People are just biased because it's a remake.
Get the hell outta here with that terrible a** take.
Agree. Though, I think it’s also because FMAB was a lot more like other popular shounen battle types. Vs 03 had a different tone and feels very different even though it’s the same franchise. Recency bias and manga faithfulness bias is definitely playing a role though.
Then, I also think FMA’s long reign at the top has gotten fans used to this way of the charts. Used to the idea that the series is undeniable #1. It’s difficult for fans to accept a time going this long where FMA isn’t at the top. Add on the fandom wars and now there’s people angry at not only the overthrow of FMA, but that their anime wasn’t the one to pull it off (as I’m writing this now on Valentine’s Day 2024). Thoughts like: ‘why wasn’t it my show?!’ Or ‘why is the #1 an iyashikei story of all things?!’
Personally, I support Frieren as the new #1. I’d much rather it be this one than other seasonals who tried and failed to stay at #1 for any real notable amount of time.
Well you can safely say its not recency bias anymore. The show has been finished and its still #1 and its not even close. Where as other shows that had recency bias in the past were #1 or #2 for a few days then fell off. I say frieren has earned it. Theres not that many shows from this decade in the top 5 let alone top 20.
For me, the most satisfying #1 MAL challenger was Kaguya-sama. Wasn't a super hyped show at first, but was always high quality. The plot continued to build, the character development was fantastic, and that season 3 climax was perfect. Also, shout out to Aka Akasaka for writing both Kaguya and Oshi no Ko, two anime that reached the MAL peak
I watch anime since 22 years ago.
I must say, Frieren touched a spot that no other story touched like it did.
I feel like there needs to be lists that's for shows that have completed, vs shows that are currently airing.
I haven’t been touched by an anime since Vinland I love this show it gives me everything
I'm surprised you didn't mention how controversial Attack on Titan's ending is. The ending split the fandom in half like few other series ever do. It's an either you love it or hate it ending. Half the fanbase argues it's perfect, while the other half argues that it completely ruined the entire series.
It's actually insane. Like people call AOT the Game Of Thrones of anime. But this was WAYY more controversial than GOT's ending.
@@benapeh854 yeah because GOT ending was universally hated. That’s not a controversy.
It’s only true when you’re talking about the manga fandom. I’ve been observing the reaction of the anime onlies, like CZcams reaction/discussion videos like Semblance of Sanity, Studio Gek, Nicholas Light etc, review channels like penguinz0, the reception has been pretty much positive. Those who hate it are just a vocal minority.
@@garupakyojin1361 yeah because most manga reader of specifically AOT were too dumb to see it coming a mile away.
@@garupakyojin1361 I think a lot had to do with analysis videos of youtube about the manga that did in fact not interpret the ending quite well, or at least, benefit of the doubt, gave their own interpretation that made the ending seem contradicted to it. And in a way similar to game theory videos or essays sometimes being spread as fact, it caught on that the manga ending was just bad. Since it's less clear in the manga, and there's even less visual and audio aid to persuade you, people had a harder time interpreting what it all meant, so they just trusted what they believed the series should've said and what they were told about the ending by others. They might be able to defend their point, but the points are usually using scenes and moments that those videos nitpick out that benefits their argument conveniently.
I think, like you say, if these people had solid uninfluenced bases, you'd be able to see a lot more reactors find something off about the message, but they all kinda got the jist of it pretty solidly.
What makes Frieren amazing is that it's taken many fantasy tropes common to anime and perfected them by turning them on their head and then offering tons of insightful commentary as well as an entertaining show.
I don't get people ragging on Frieren for having the #1 slot even if it's temporary probably. FMA is an amazing story but so is Frieren and I think they stand shoulder to shoulder.
Love Frieren! Though, it’s pretty normal fantasy. The issue is isekai fantasy has become nearly every fantasy coming out for the last decade. A normal fantasy story in this environment only feels like a subversion. It’s really just returning to its roots. There’s even anime from before that are about the end of the journey as well. Frieren is amazing because it’s returning to the fantasy roots people love the genre for.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2srTo be fair, I also love how, in Frieren, when it does subversion, it handles it with such genuine sincerity. Such as Himmel's role as a hero. He is the man that took up the role, not because he was fated to do so, but because he chose to do so. He was the embodiment of perseverance, hard work and legitimate heroism. Many heroes in fantasy are destined to be such. Sure, there has been other examples of this but, again, Frieren broaches it with such genuine sincerity that it feels fresh. It's not overtly cynical, which we have in abundance these days. I think that's what the boys miss in their take on why it's resonating so well.
They literally said Frieren is botting on MAL. That's the most ridiculous part.
I'd say it belongs in top 20 of all time.
Ugh, are the hoddies in the background still avaiable or are they gonan be available soon? :)
Gives some credit to Frieren. It might not be the best anime, but its one of the few anime that made me read the manga while the anime still airing. It is that good. Easily top 25 Anime of all time.
Edit: Scratch that, at least top 15.
You guys went down hell seriously jujtsu over frieren
2:15 Chainsaw Man was obviously very hyped up, but I don't remember it getting close to the top 10 on MAL. Half of the site called it trash as soon as they saw 3 seconds of CGI 😁.
That season, it was Bocchi the Rock that climbed the rankings.
Frieren doesn’t do anything new that revolutionizes anime, but it combines everything as flawlessly as you can do it.
Ok not even top 50. L take joey
@JohnJohnson27-cs6ixit is
They're called Trashtaste for a reason lol
You still can't stop me rating Frieren with a 10
Frieren is a 10/10 show. like maybe it's not yet deserving to be ranked #1 but it has a very well written story, good lore obviously, the characters are all unique and they develop over the course of the show, the animation and fight sequences are good, the show can make you cry at multiple points so far, and there's also lots of funny moments. it's 17 episodes in and hasn't put a foot wrong. i haven't watched as much anime as these guys obviously so i can't say for certain that it's like top 10 or top 50 ever or whatever but it's the complete package and everyone should watch it.
the people who watch frieren simply like frieren a lot (enough to give it 10/10s), if we compare the show's member count against other shows like FMA, it barely has over 1/10 of the amount of members from FMA, i dont think it is up there cause of a "trend" but simply because the members of the show love the series a lot
I mean, that's kind of what a trend ends up becoming though. A lot more time is needed to stop calling it a trend, rn. Rn it's very much a trend.
What got me hooked on FMA to begin with was the Nina story. It was just another Shounen anime to me until that point. I remember watching that episode and getting that pit in my stomach when I realized where Nina was. 20 years and a daughter later, I'm not sure if I could even watch it again.
The thing with Friren is that it is really difficult to hate the show. Usually popular shows have a lot of antis, but for Friren this is not the case, which is why the show has such a high score
Bet you guys don't know that the Animate magazine from Japan used to have a poll about the best anime chara and for 10 or 20 years, Sakura Kinomoto took the number 1 place without a beat.
Gigguk sold me Frieren year before anime. This was such interesting concept for me that when I saw anime adaptation I was interested from the episode one.
Same.
One year ago or so I watched his video about the Frieren Manga and started reading it after that.
Was hyped for the anime from episode one.
Now that all episodes are out, I still think its better then most shows I've watched.
"Not even in top 50" what?!
For me it definitely is in my top 5.
But Im really not the shonen type so most of them are not that high on my list.
Garnt confusing names in FMA:B - I'm surprised the other lads didn't tear into him. They know he gonna stumble
Ain't no way Joey and Garnt read the manga and completely dismissed fking El Dorado arc like it's not written to perfection.
Did we even read the same thing. That is the one arc that addresses almost every single problem people had with Frieren.
Same never been a fan of the series until this arc. Yeah sure the series is nice read but until this arc i am not gonna wait it weekly
I think he mentioned in another stream that garnt read it and stop after the aura arc because the anime announcement. If he ever read the el dorado arc, i think his entire pov about frieren will change. That arc was super amazing
@@GranMaj you are insane. that was the peak of the manga
During my scriptwriting for film and TV class my professor said that a good script has to be thought provoking, and grounded in reality, and honestly Frieren nails it… watching and reading the manga I realized how much time has passed and how short a year is it made me realize how to balance between working on something for a long time and taking time off to spend time with the people around you, which is definitely evident in some arcs… The recent arc on the sleeper assassin was good.
There are alot of moments where the time pacing of each events or arcs changes, just like the saying “There are decades where years happen and years where decades happen…” (Did I say it right?) that saying is what I think Frieren is all about
Considering how good To Your Eternity was while representing the passage of time, I'm looking forward to Frieren's take on it.
Yea it's not it's attraction
Aged like milk in the humid summer sun
Its to early to tell, but I could put this in my top 50. Granted my library is much smaller than theirs im sure.
If you have this mentality of not enjoying people putting it to the top, then nothing will ever be rated better if it deserves it. Does Frieren deserve it? I'm not sure. But if people enjoy it enough, I didn't mind it topping FMA Brotherhood
Problem is in the system I think. Because they're right, it's not even finished, it's a preemptive 10/10 show without people knowing how it could go. There's every possibility the adaptation gets butchered at some point between now and its supposed ending. Change of studio that turns the animation into trash, budget cut makes the same studio not able to adapt it well, several factors can influence the ending and it's already a perfect package? But then, if people don't rate it now, it's less likely to catch on as a trend and for more people to watch it, to truly have a score to get above FMAB. So the current airing + trends system benefits FMAB, so even though FMAB and Frieren are both good shows, any show that does beat it as it airs doesn't feel genuine.
People enjoyed promised Neverland too but it did sink to hell.
@@atulyaroy8962 with how MAL works, it would rate them separately. So if Frieren S2 goes to shit, S1 is a separate entity
ppl trash mal for this when this literally happens in every website that allows user to give their ratings lol
Agree. People are just mad it’s not their show that wins. And when it is their show, they feel the need to not like it anymore and start stanning another lesser known anime (lesser known in their eyes). Even though the way I see it is the lesser known show is just another popular competing seasonal that has just as much love.
It’s always just the fandoms at war with each other.
Its great story, great emotions, explains transience of life itself in so many ways it's not number 1 by any means but it is special one for sure
I think Frieren as a story- deserves to be in Top 50. I just cant agree that it doesnt. The manga writer is truly a good writer.
It's verrry apparent connor skips cutscenes in this...
The problem with sites like mal if you have the FML stands who will zero any show that has a danger of coming close to it. By now they have probably copped on that their rating might not be counted so they just give it a treat or a four so it wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of people who rated FML 9 or 10 give frieren at 3
This is the longest an anime has taken the top spot from FMAB. That takes more than just hype. Frieren hasn’t miss stepped a single episode.
Wow... L take boys... L take...
I love how you can't rate a show a 9 or 10 out of 10 just because it is new. Like what every one should rate it a 5 because it has 12 episodes out? I don't know how about we use our heads and realize if a show only has 12 episodes out it probably just hasn't shown all it's weaknesses and when it does the rating will go down but at the moment it probably deserves its rating.
Yeah, if you're gonna argue, try not to put words in their mouths and actually listen to what they said
@@thepierre396 ok, what did they say?
11:40
In the context Joey is saying of Cowboy Bebop being a massive hit for the late 90/early 2000s western anime fan generation, and FMA Brotherhood being the same for the late 2000s/early 2010s (which I don't disagree with), then the series for the late 2010s/early 2020s will be Demon Slayer if you go by this criteria (just ahead of AoT).
This is so true. I feel like Demon Slayer not only got anime more popular, but manga as well, which has been more of a niche up until this point.
Joey meant series that are just massive hits in the West. Demonslayer is popular in Japan.
@@Ash_Wen-li demon slayer is also really popular outside of japan.
@@madkoala2130 nah, Demon Slayer is popular outside anime circles worldwide.
@@Azg105Yes, but Joey is talking about shows that were massive hits in the West but NOT in Japan.
So by that criteria Demonslayer doesn't count because it's popular in both
This did not age well....
Im pretty sure she isn't immortal. Elves just has a long ass life Span.
Frieren deserves that top spot. Its pacing is amazing. The story behind it is unique and captivating. The art and animation was well made.
I've watched a lot of anime in my life and its the only one that has made me buy the manga (my first manga ever) as well as buy all the currently available english volumes. Its that good. One thing I found out after buying the volumes is how faithful the anime adaption is.
what a funny but cute thumbnail
More Campfire Isekau please
No anime can ever be the greatest of all time if it's released within 10 years, most people review through nostalgia. Frieren will likely be talked about among the greats later on, but now, people like to give their polarizing takes, which is usually a sign that it is doing something right
Frieren FTW
Frieren is an amazing show I legitamently can't think of any issues I have with it. Frieren never has a dull moment it even has those moments of Ma that Ghibili does to take in everything that just happened. There were definitely rough spots for me in FMAB. Both are masterpieces of anime and to say otherwise is kind of wild, lower then top 50 is wild. Me peronsally Frieren takes my #1 spot as I love stories that focus on emotions and especially those of loss which Frieren does so masterfully well.
Ok we are are at episode 21 I think the hype would have dropped off by now, I think the show is just really good.
9:40 yeah, Mahoujo Shoujo Madoka Magica
Joey what are the problems with Fullmetal Alchemist?
8:40 personally I think 03 was significantly better than broho.
As for the question of shows that could be suitable for the top position or suited more than brotherhood (even if I may like broho more than a number of these)
Bebop, Mononoke Hime, Perfect Blue, Howl’s, Monster, ATLA (obviously never going to get added to MAL), Steins Gate, Gurren Lagann, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, GIT SAC, EVA, Code Geass.
This truly was a trash taste
Joey can't even tell his top 50 consistently
as a manga reader I don't think Garnt has anything to worry about
I can’t believe Sousou no Frieren has been at the top of MAL for months now! Actually crazy. I personally think it is deserving of #1. It’s not crazy or out there but it’s just…right. In that right it’s perfect and a masterpiece. The animation, soundtrack etc. it’s not overhyped by having too many actions scenes. It has good character development and story telling etc. kind of reminds me of Yona of the dawn in that sense…?
I disagree because it's not even finished. I don't count unfinished anime anywhere close to the top 1000 as they could turn into shows with terrible endings like Game of Thrones. End the show then we'll talk if it deserves to be in high rankings or not; otherwise, it's not even worth mentioning.
@@Vyz3r yeah i know AOT season 3 part 2 was highly rated before even the manga finished. It’s so annoying. Also Game of Thrones was bad in the 2nd half, not just the last season.
Yeah, I guess you make a point tbf
AoT has more real haters than FMAB… they also have better reasons.
Frieren truly has it all:
- overpowered main character
- fantastic worldbuilding
- compelling, dramatic story
- relatable, well-writen characters
- racism
- 1000 year old ice queen loli elf
Demons just pretend to be people lol. Being able to tell the difference is a tool, not a curse. Use the right word!
@@tianlechen Yeah I get that op is joking, but demons aren't a race. They're monsters pretending to be a race
Nailed it
@@tianlechen i do that on twitter and they call me antisemitic like wtf
Fuck, I'm old. FMAB came out my junior year or college.
I was going into 7th grade that year. First year middle schooler. I remember I had watched 09 series first with another girl. I can’t remember if one other girl was there as well or not. Idr how I watched 09. Maybe Toonami? Though, I wasn’t really a tv viewer of anime at the time. Everything the group watched was online. Then the others in my friend group at the time had apparently watched 03 because we were discussing very different shows for a while before noticing. I think the difference was about an even split amongst the group. Half talking about Brotherhood and the other 03.
FMA>Brotherhood. More Hughes=better show
I actually disagree with the boys on Frieren, and I think it will probably stay ahead of FMAB. I think that the score gap between Frieren and FMAB is bigger than the other new shows that hit #1 due to hype. Furthermore, whilst it is still airing, Frieren has maintained this position for a number of months.
Frieren is also not what I would call a 'hype' show. The love for it seems genuine, and I certainly have a genuine fondness for so far.
I will say, its totally fair to say that we should wait till it ends to call it the GOAT, but personally, I think if Frieren keeps doing what it is doing, it will remain at #1.
I personally think it'll fall due to its length. I don't think, from what I've heard, that it's gunning to be anything BUT long, which will mean it will inevitably drag out. I think that's why the boys are saying it's not even top 50. The novelty is strong at first, but once you notice it's going to be there for the long haul (although still not classic shonen long), you kind of sit back and lay down on the hype because you know it'll have to cook for a while and it'll have to cook for even longer to get a satisyfing ending. FMAB has the complete package, including its duration. To surpass it, Frieren has to have a great ending, and only have the necessary number of episodes.
I wish it the best though, for all the fantasy shows and how lewd they tend to be, Frieren is relatively safe and wholesome (though still suffers from some of the tropes, making it less recommendable than FMAB already).
Man, I am was worried it was going to be too short like 12 ep. It being 28 ep is a plus not a minus. The journey took Himel and the party 10 years. It will take about as long for Frieren, and to show that at its full we need it to feel so. O welp I completely disagree with these guys on it not even being top 50. Its ganna be top 10
Yea they were talking out of their ass on this one. In retrospect, FMAB isnt the best show of all time either. AOT, Gintama, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Mushishi, Cowboy Bebop, Bleach.... its also the product of MAL overhype. theres so many shows over the years that felt more impactful. But ofc you have to watch more to realize that. I originally gave FMAB a 9 but went back years later and changed it to a 8. good show but not BEST of anything.
Not at all. TYBW had a far higher gap (because of botting) but has dropped to #8 after a yeat.
@@johndinner4418not top 50 is crazy. Manga readers are saying it gets even better with the latest arc
I like frieren but is it that good?
No. It's ok. Nothing amazing. Even The Apothecary Diaries is better
Yes definitely best fantasy series anime right now the upcoming season will be better if madhouse adapt every manga perfectly
Anime of the year imo, definitely better than jjk thats for sure
Still #1 as of writing this comment, boys. Frieren is loved for bringing about in people the same feels that things such as LotR. It's just so sincere and it conjures feelings that nigh all of us as humans seek. It makes anime weebs - terminally indoor folks - want to go outside. It's true escapism that hooks you with it's sincerity. "Recency bias"? Absolutely, categorically not the case.
Frieren deserves it. as a FMA fan, im at peace with Frieren being #1
If you remove her ending up with the guy 3 times her age. My favourite anime ever is Violet ever garden
Well because it's good ?
FMAB was number one for so long only because is an anime easy to recommend to the normies who want watch some anime, have some action, some humor, an easy story, isn't ecchi, names easy to remmember for american normies... it is an anime for non-anime fans
Except this can apply to many shows, take aot for example. Not only is it an easy first anime for newbies but it is also universally beloved, yet fmab still beats it in terms of rankings. Tad bit disingenuous to say that its popularity is only because it's easy to recommend to newbies.
I’ve noticed that as well. Americans tend to prefer the anime where they are represented or they can think they are the MCs even if perhaps the story is still set in Japan or a Japanese version of a fantasy world or really set in another country in the western world like Germany. Like I’ve heard people complain about seeing Japanese specific food and things pop up in a mostly generic European setting fantasy, calling it jarring. A lot will deny the reason for feeling that jarring moment is because they were able to pretend up until that moment it wasn’t foreign to them, but to me, it’s so clearly for that reason. They hated being reminded the story they were enjoying was from another part of the world than their own.😅
Even now with Ninja Kamui, this is apparent as much as I enjoyed the first episode and hope it will be amazing. I might even pick up the previous Ninja Kamui stories before the American ninja fantasy insert the current one sounds like it’s trying to be. As much as I want to enjoy this one, I can’t help the foul taste of that observation.
Nothing wrong with seeing yourself as the MC. That’s the point of stories, but I don’t understand wanting to deny the origins of the story and characters or not being able to connect with a story if it was too Japanese or too foreign in comparison to other stories that are about more universal things. More universal settings. More generic fantasy settings anyone could imagine themselves in.
FMA 2003 is better than Brotherhood
NGL Frieren is def on its way to being one the top animes.
12 episodes is significantly longer than the simple hype
I'm with you on Frieren
i guess this is why this is called trash taste
top 50 ? worst takes so far and deffo didint age well , fieren was awesome imo deffo top 10 anime all time
It's top 3 for me. Possibly #1
It's the only anime that made me go get the manga.
But these guys don't admit that they are always very biased to the edgy/gory shonen jump type of anime in their rankings.
I hate when a new anime shows up and they’re not even finished with the first season, but they’re already saying that it’s better than any anime that’s already finished
Yh it’s finished and it’s been number 1 for the longest time after fmab
No Frieren isn't the best anime ever created, but it is damn close to a 10/10 in every way. It deserves the credit
Frieren is easily the best new anime of the year
Cause it's better than other shows lmao
Frieren might not be the best anime of all time, but neither is fullmetal alchemist. to me it is at least better than FMAB.
thats because its good, good sirs of trash taste :3c
If we're putting contenders for number 1, it's gotta be HXH bro, its got the potential to be the best......if it was ever allowed to complete its story. The lore, characters, and exploration were in a league of its own. 😥
I think the pacing is too poor during the chimera arc to be no1
@@Brian-wx4ig??? Bro forgetting about One Piece pacing
It’s my favorite manga, but I don’t think that the anime deserves number 1