Dr. Halsey is interrogated inside a secure ONI facility, Cortana awakens the Master Chief after four years in cryo sleep to investigate an intruder alert on the Dawn.
Don’t forget she also treated Jorge as if her own son in the Reach while she talks like shit to the rest of noble team Of course noble Six was exceptional
Yeah, it’s creepy how she cares for the children she kidnapped and replaced with child clones designed to die shortly after. She still feels like a loving mother anyway.
@@coleeckerman1390 i feel this is due to her GEAS instilled by Librarian.. we have to take into consideration the Forerunner lifeworker plans for humanity, which Librarian hid from Didact and ensured the existence up to that point. She told John herself that he´s a culmination of thousands of lifetimes of planning.. his physical evolution , combat skin even his ancilla Cortana.. same with Halsey.. She might be the most direct tool of Librarian.. the geas can be programmed to act as an atavism that simply skips generations up to a certain point when and where the civilization is advanced enough and key people with geas meet so that particular one (in Halsey) activates and does whatever is programmed to do.. how else would Halsey so easily create Cortana.. the more is revealed by Forerunners and Precursors, the more obvious things become and one starts to explain the other..
The quote before - “when one human world after another fell, when my Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction” - gives me goosebumps each time. really driving home that they were humanity’s last hope.
You may already know this, but as a propaganda tactic, Spartans were never classified KIA, only ever MIA, to reinforce the perception that they were immortal and impossible to defeat, even though the vast majority of Spartans, of all generations, were designated to missions that were practically certain to result in their deaths, and by-and-large led to them. Most, nearly all, Spartans ever deployed are dead. Johnson was the only combat active member of project Orion (Spartan-I) that made it through the human-covenant war (to die by the hands of Guilty Spark). Only Blue Team, chief's outfit of Spartan-II's, and Red Team (those that weren't pulverized by Atriox), who spent a large portion of the latter half of the H-C war (everything after the Spirit of Fire escaped the fall of Reach) adrift and in cryo-sleep, are still alive. Out of the few-hundred-ish spartan-III's that were created, many of whom were sent to Reach during the outbreak of contact war with the covenant, only one is known to have survived (iirc), Spartan Jun of noble team. And the Spartan-IV's, both the ones on Infinity and the ones in training in classified space, are all dead or presumed to be because of Cortana. TLDR: Spartans never die, but they sure do stop breathing during their missions a WHOLE LOT.
If anything, the Spartan IIs and IIIs were by far the most human out of 4 generations. The II's may have been chosen by Doctor Halsey, but it was through theirs and the III's actions that stalled the relentless path of the Covenant. They looked after their own, rescued countless soldiers and civilians alike, all without asking for a single hint of kindness in return while facing down certain death. Spartan IV's have been known to be cocky, egotistical, and often times become blinded by the heat of the moment to fully rationalize their actions. Even Johnson, a Project Orion soldier (AKA the original Spartan I project) became one of the very symbols of the game because of his ability to make the best of a situation and trust in his soldiers to do their job.
Eazy 117 Agreed. The IIIs were indeed a tragic tale. ONI definitely threw Halsey under the bus with the IIs with the kidnapping of children, but they were the ones who took orphans of glassed planets and directed their resentment of the Covenant into becoming a mass produced generation of Spartans with a fatality so high, it would be easier to count how many actually survived long enough to be integrated into the IVs
It makes sense if you think about it. Children, from a young age, can be taught to control their arrogance and stupid impulses in the name of the duty. A fully grown adult is expected to simply receive power and know what to do with it.
Its absolutely effing crazy to me that this game came out 5 years ago like here I am now a senior in high school and I so vividly remember coming home everyday in seventh grade to watch Halo Forward Unto Dawn in anticipation for Halo 4 after playing H3 and Halo Reach nonstop with my bros. like...where has time gone?!?!
feels bro, one of my first memories was playing halo 2 and CE when i was 3 years old. the originals are timeless masterpieces, idk how i feel about this new stuff, IMO reach was the last good/real halo.
I love how you see how she did care for them. She may not show it openly but they where like children to her. She did what had to be done in her eyes to save humanity. I think my favorite part is when she says “ don’t underestimate them. But most importantly don’t underestimate him.”
"Your mistake is seeing Spartans as military hardware" If you've played Halo Infinite already, you know how much this line really means something when it comes to Master Chief.
The old suits looked terrible, and that would have created a fair chunk more work just to create a better model for them, instead of using the models they already had.
@@clayyoung6369 No. They're giving shit because it dosen't add up with past events. Was chief thrusting around in halo 1-3? No but the cutscenes made it look like he had that ability since Halo 1.
@@clayyoung6369 no, were mad because they fucked shit up. That's like if KitKat removed the breaking part of kitkat (The iconic part of KitKat i should say) and just gave you a solid rectangle of KitKat, and heres you:"evErY bOdY MaD bEcaUsE tHeY tRiED SomeTHinG nEw". Trying new things is awesome, but only when it makes sense and works and looks cool.
Halsey makes a good point. She may have created them to crush Insurrectionists, but in the end they saved humanity. In that she can justify her actions, however inhumane they were. This person seems to want her to confess to the inhumane things she did. That leads me to believe that this is a person looking to prosecute her for what she did. I hope Halo 6 will shed some light on this.
It had nothing to do with wanting to prosecute her, she's absolutely correct in that. It had everything to do with them wanting to replace John, and wanted to know what she thought made him so successful.
@@Shiketaum You realize that other than the specifics, the overall project was at the orders of ONI? I mean, blame her if you really... really want to, I guess, but recognize that regardless of her involvement, ONI was willing to do whatever it took to crush the separatists, and later the Covenant. Yes, what she did wasn't pretty, nor particularly ethical, but it's not nearly as bad as it could have been.
Yep but she wasn't the only one John and the elites did too it's kind of funny when you think about it truth caused his own downfall by replacing the elites with brutes had he not done that the great schism would have never occured and the covenant would have most likely won his ego and overconfidence lost him the war lol.
Not exactly. Halsey herself mentioned that while she sees herself as a sort of mother figure to her Spartans, the only ones they see as family are each other.
Zachary Gilmore depends on the spartan. You can basically divide the spartan IIs in two categories: 1) sees Halsey as a mother figure 2) wants to see Halsey dead
I keep coming here after watching episodes of the Halo TV series...this Halsey and the one in the show have such differences. This Halsey truly shows how much faith she has in John, no matter the odds, she knows he will win, while in the show she thinks John needs help and protection, as well as questions his choices and actions. Halsey is also a lot more commanding in presence and shows self-assurance here compared to the show, tho I think that may be due to a matter of age perhaps, but the way even young Halsey is written in halo lore, she has always been quite sure of her actions. Especially when it comes to her spartans.
I like the canon Halsey, because she may have done terrible things, but she has regrets and cares for the Spartans. Silver Halsey is like, let’s erase John and replace him with Cortana.
Halo 4 spartans drop down with jump jets...... Halo infinite, nah we going back to drop pods. Seems like 343 has no idea what vision they want for Halo anymore.
This is definitely happening after Halo 4 and beginning of Halo 5. Chief went rogue, after some huge fight the chief is presumed dead. Though she knows he is alive because he escaped and she got captured out at the outer colonies. A huge civil war erupts and the senator wants answers.
Blast from the future, no, it's happening at the beginning of 4, cheif is believed dead after the Forward Unto Dawn split in half after the events of Halo.
its Jun A266, he wants to know more about the older program, so he can make adjustments to his Spartan IV prgram.He's using a voice disguise other than that he is bald head and all the signs are there. Hint: Halsey -'You want to replace him'
@V-Rex Mega bullshit. The voice is completely different, even taking away from the fact that Jun has a Russian accent. The voice is way too deep, the accent is perfect American, and that is completely different from the way Jun talks. Not to mention, Jun had a tattoo of a hand holding arrows, it doesn't look like the interrogator has that tattoo
Lasky was a key part in the Spartan IV program (Jun was too). It's Lasky interrogating her. The IVs are all decorated, experienced marines and ODST, meaning they don't have the same emotional suppressants as the IIs or IIIs, which is why he's talking about them lacking basic humanity.
@@SailorPupitar You are all wrong lmao. It's someone that Musa Ghanem, aka Musa-096 sent. He's the head of the SPARTAN-IV program. A former SPARTAN-II washout. He would know how fucked everything from the project was considering his history with it. Another hint to this is from the book "New Blood" where he tells Buck that the humanity in SPARTAN-IV's is very important, and sets them apart from the preceding Spartan generations
@@Boopy357 but wouldn't Halsey recognized him if he was Musa? It's unlikely she wouldn't recognize one of her spartans especially since she was always able to tell them apart back when they wore identical armor
Interesting things to note- 1- Spartans 'never die" due to propaganda, to avoid a moral drop, any spartan killed in action or otherwise is listed as M.I.A. John just happened to be just so- but everyone believed him to he. 2- Spartans were indeed intended to crush human rebellions, not the covenant. They were taken at 6 years old and "reforged" through horrible processes on Reach. It just so happened that it was just in time for said war to come. 3- Due to the growing distane regular soldiers had twards Spartans, they often were woefully under credited for their deeds. Akin more to a group effort than it acually was. If they gave a metal to a spartan every time they earned one, they could forge a whole new suit out of them. And 4- Sargent Johnson was a Spartan 1, or at least a prototype. Obviously there wasn't quite the same process or development of armor at the type as with the spartan 2's. They also learned that adults were suboptimal for the process. And since the whole thing wasn't really a booming success, it was buried under red tape. But makes things a little easier to understand how he got off the ring
Aye Co Breeze the reason Spartans are listed as Mia is to spread the legend that Spartans never die.. I think he was mocking her for claiming he’s listed as Mia kinda like saying yeah we all know what that means
It’s a play on Spartans the Ancient Greek warriors obviously it’s the “spartan” part. But Rhodesians (modern day Zimbabwe) were thought to never die because they were cut off from all supply’s for decades but still fought on until South Africa (apartheid government) backed out and Rhodesia became Zimbabwe and that’s the “Rhodesians never die” became Spartans never die
I appreciate not everyone attacking me for not knowing. Goes to show you how awesome the halo community is. Been playing since original Xbox. I’ll be fan no matter how much it changes. Thanks for explaining that to me. It’s always seemed like a contradiction thanks again though for explaining.
Aye Co Breeze I don’t even fall for the far fetched voodoo of other things Star Wars, Star Trek, dungeons and dragons. Space wizards and or orks never felt real enough to immerse me in the world but in halo little things like the accents of the marines Irish, Scottish, Mexican, South African and Australian plus humanity’s willingness to commit war crimes and cover ups (like in real life) felt real enough that my brain nearly accepted it as truth.
Hes being sarcastic. He scoffs and goes "Spartans never die?". This is because Spartans are human too, and its silly to pretend that they're missing when they're dead, which they believed to be the case, since he's been missing for years.
Well 2 be fair no one in the UNSC can know because of how secretive they are it’s like does every British soldier know the name of every MI6/MI7 agent? No. Halsey does because she’s the one who actually hand picked them. ( fact when people learn the identities of mi7 agents the agents are stripped, beaten and shoved in a bag in their own apartment)
I think I know what the biggest problem with Halsey was. Her lack of compassion and empathy for others, like those Spartan soldiers for example. Since they were turned into super soldiers, some of their humanity was stripped away where they didn't live normal lives, and it was all because of her. If she was forced to undergo the same stuff she made them undergo, I bet she wouldn't like it either. She can sit there and say her work saved the human race, but it wasn't her body that was altered, or her own humanity stripped away, in the process.
Well She actualy cares a lot of all spartans 2 If I remember correctly she sees them as they childrens Some of them call her "mom" John call her whit respect he don't skip the doctor tittle
You can't judge Halsey in strictly black and white terms. She's a shades of grey character. I don't feel she shows enough repentance, or acceptance for the horrific act that is kidnapping children to indoctrinate them into pure killing machines, and she adopts a very post-hoc 'ends justify the means' conclusion. In a sense she was 'fortunate' that the Covenant War erupted as it gives a nice veneer to the Spartan-II programme; in an alternate timeline, where the Covenant either didn't exist or didn't find humanity or otherwise didn't go to war with Humanity, the Spartan-IIs likely would have continued in their original intended purpose of being the scalpel of a totalitarian UNSC regime, crushing freedom and self-determination of other human populations. Nevertheless, she's quite right in her claim that her work did litterally save the human race (which, if it even needs to be said, is a moral good). So I have to admit, the ends DO justify her means - but it doesn't justify her philosophy, her attitude, or HER.
Tbf the Insurrectionists were no saints either. Considering how much of a detriment to the race's development it would have been for us to devolve in a squabbling clutch of warring tribes ruled by warlords the UNSC had to be a bit iron fisted at times. The Gen II's were a result of someone not distracted by hand-wringing to get the job done.
@@ethrsag735The insurrectionists had every right to want to succeed from the UEG. The core worlds treated them poorly, and they wanted to go, the UNSC started the mess, and the insurrectionists did their job and responded.
imagine if you were captured, tortured by time travelers, force fed your own shit by time travelers, and they went through every single type of method they could think of in an attempt to kill you. Imagine being a monsterous freak to them to the point where you wouldn't have any friends.
So... Halsey kind of became a patsy for ONI? Because Halsey didn't do it all on her own, she just worked for ONI. In her journal (from the Halo Reach special edition) she says that she was hired amongst several other scientists and just got promoted as time went on because she was so talented. Halsey didn't even abduct the kids, she only met John and him alone, then ONI agents abducted them. She just oversaw their development. What I think happened was ONI couldn't keep a lid on the crimes they committed to make the Spartan IIs, so they used Halsey as a patsy and blamed everything on her.
Halsey needed test subjects and under her request, children were easier to indoctrinate. Just because she didn't kidnap them herself, doesn't mean she isn't guilty of it
I don’t think they were blaming her. As demeaning and antagonistic the interrogator was, Halsey called out his true intentions, which was to dissect the psyche of the spartan program and factory make a second MasterChief.
I watch this now and I feel like it's Chief who is talking to her. It's just the voice and in a way how he says things. When he talks about "At his core, he was broken." It sounded personal
The voice is different, Chief doesn't seem like he would make this kind of interrogation himself, she would recognise him even if she couldn't see him and so she wouldn't make the "What does John have to do with this" comment. ITS NOT CHIEF
Chief doesn't hate her though, nor blame her for what happened, or hold any ill-will at all. He, as well as a good *most* of the rest of the Spartan-IIs that still live, look at her as a mother figure. They care a great deal about her, and she them.
no matter how much the UNSC disagrees with her actions she is simply the next step in human civilization not just her spartans but doctor halsey herself we can only imagine how strong the spartan IV would be if she created them let alone created the mark VI i personally love her as a character and hope that they bring her back my reasoning is that she dint just look at the spartans as "Military Hardware" she looks at them as her greatest achievement and even as her own children i feel that with her the entire series of halo and all universe could be changed if they let her continue her work and the fact i think she could have stopped cortana from going rampant if she wasnt imprisoned
A scientist who kidnaps and indoctrinates children all while experimenting on them in order to make them super soldiers is the average American mother? Jesus ...
Edit: 0:01-3:01 I really feel like this was us, hooked onto halo at a young age for me I was the same age as the Spartans when they started to “train” I feel like he’s talking about our generation 01 when he says children idk 😭😭.
I hate that he thinks the spartan 2s have sociopathic tendencies when they fight they’re literally thinking of one thing, that’s to save humanity when they were killing the covenant, they care a lot for each other and humanity
I still remember when I was 5, or 6, thinking about this, before Halo ever existed, with a lab, and being a child in that lab, just like this. You've been leeching off of me for a long time now.
I get the gist on where this interrogater was going for, but it's shameful to replace a man that cannot be forgotten. When you look at WWII's American USS Enterprise, they can be replaced as hardware, but not the name. Spartans are humans, not machines. *Spartans Never Die*
Gotta watch fall of reach really like how they portrayed her in that. But it is clear she loves the Spartans at first because it was her work but I think she genuinely loves John like a mother. Which would be cool to see her regret her actions and such but nope that’s to easy for 343 lol
![[HD] HALO 4 Cortana shows her love to John 117](/img/n.gif)
Halsey went from a Prideful Scientist to a Defensive Mother the moment John Was mentioned
Don’t forget she also treated Jorge as if her own son in the Reach while she talks like shit to the rest of noble team
Of course noble Six was exceptional
Yeah, it’s creepy how she cares for the children she kidnapped and replaced with child clones designed to die shortly after. She still feels like a loving mother anyway.
@@coleeckerman1390A term I just coined for is, "A mother of monsters is still a mother." Which I think is very apt for her.
@@TheNapster153Funnily Chief is more human than her.
@@coleeckerman1390 i feel this is due to her GEAS instilled by Librarian.. we have to take into consideration the Forerunner lifeworker plans for humanity, which Librarian hid from Didact and ensured the existence up to that point. She told John herself that he´s a culmination of thousands of lifetimes of planning.. his physical evolution , combat skin even his ancilla Cortana.. same with Halsey.. She might be the most direct tool of Librarian.. the geas can be programmed to act as an atavism that simply skips generations up to a certain point when and where the civilization is advanced enough and key people with geas meet so that particular one (in Halsey) activates and does whatever is programmed to do.. how else would Halsey so easily create Cortana.. the more is revealed by Forerunners and Precursors, the more obvious things become and one starts to explain the other..
“My work saved the human race.” I don’t know why, but this line always gave me chills. I always loved how halo did their storytelling.
If not for the Spartans and the Navy, she's right.
The quote before - “when one human world after another fell, when my Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction” - gives me goosebumps each time. really driving home that they were humanity’s last hope.
Because it’s true
@@Top-G35Why did the military not understand her work
@@Specialist1Aim because of ethics, it’s frowned upon to hurt women and children even if it’s for the greater good
"His file reads missing in action"
No one can kill the master chief. If his location is unknown, you just know he'll make a way back.
Spartans do die but the Master Chief don't.
You may already know this, but as a propaganda tactic, Spartans were never classified KIA, only ever MIA, to reinforce the perception that they were immortal and impossible to defeat, even though the vast majority of Spartans, of all generations, were designated to missions that were practically certain to result in their deaths, and by-and-large led to them. Most, nearly all, Spartans ever deployed are dead. Johnson was the only combat active member of project Orion (Spartan-I) that made it through the human-covenant war (to die by the hands of Guilty Spark). Only Blue Team, chief's outfit of Spartan-II's, and Red Team (those that weren't pulverized by Atriox), who spent a large portion of the latter half of the H-C war (everything after the Spirit of Fire escaped the fall of Reach) adrift and in cryo-sleep, are still alive. Out of the few-hundred-ish spartan-III's that were created, many of whom were sent to Reach during the outbreak of contact war with the covenant, only one is known to have survived (iirc), Spartan Jun of noble team. And the Spartan-IV's, both the ones on Infinity and the ones in training in classified space, are all dead or presumed to be because of Cortana.
TLDR: Spartans never die, but they sure do stop breathing during their missions a WHOLE LOT.
@@tranhuyuc8987Spartans don’t die there just Mia
@@matthewberg5835 please make it "MIA" or it's making me think of Mia Khalifa
"Catherine....'Spartans never die?'" Best part IMO
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Comparing this xbox 360 video to the ps5 video...... best part imo
@@robw5741 Huh?
“your mistake, is seeing spartans as military hardware” gives me chills
"Do you believe that master cheif succeeded because he was at his core broken."
He was forged.
Its the imperfection, that makes you who you are.
No he succeeded cause of motivation and his friend like Johnson and arby
What does John have to do with this? You want to replace him.
The Master Chief is dead
If anything, the Spartan IIs and IIIs were by far the most human out of 4 generations. The II's may have been chosen by Doctor Halsey, but it was through theirs and the III's actions that stalled the relentless path of the Covenant. They looked after their own, rescued countless soldiers and civilians alike, all without asking for a single hint of kindness in return while facing down certain death. Spartan IV's have been known to be cocky, egotistical, and often times become blinded by the heat of the moment to fully rationalize their actions. Even Johnson, a Project Orion soldier (AKA the original Spartan I project) became one of the very symbols of the game because of his ability to make the best of a situation and trust in his soldiers to do their job.
Felt bad for the 3s tho. Basically suicide squads
Eazy 117 Agreed. The IIIs were indeed a tragic tale. ONI definitely threw Halsey under the bus with the IIs with the kidnapping of children, but they were the ones who took orphans of glassed planets and directed their resentment of the Covenant into becoming a mass produced generation of Spartans with a fatality so high, it would be easier to count how many actually survived long enough to be integrated into the IVs
Because propaganda made them so.
We dont call children who fought for the 3rd Reich heroic right? They were a tragedy!
It makes sense if you think about it. Children, from a young age, can be taught to control their arrogance and stupid impulses in the name of the duty. A fully grown adult is expected to simply receive power and know what to do with it.
Jen Taylor did such an amazing job with her voice acting.
Then they gave her a terrible accent to attempt to do in the new game :(
Halsey was not a bad character, they just did a good job of making us hate her.
She kidnapped children. Just because shes cool in a story doesn't mean she's a good guy
@@josephmelton4721 good character, bad person.
Honestly I never hated her..
@Splint3rb3n She didn't make them to save humanity though? She made them specifically to FIGHT human rebels.
@Splint3rb3n Hmm nope. You didn't need Spartans to fight the covenant. Just build some Gundam suits or something.
Its absolutely effing crazy to me that this game came out 5 years ago like here I am now a senior in high school and I so vividly remember coming home everyday in seventh grade to watch Halo Forward Unto Dawn in anticipation for Halo 4 after playing H3 and Halo Reach nonstop with my bros. like...where has time gone?!?!
Dude, year 2020, and I looked at date this video was posted 2013, it was like yesterday!
I'm 31 now, this comment kinda hit my feels
@@leverage1990 FOR REAL. I remember playing Halo CE in high school nonstop.
feels bro, one of my first memories was playing halo 2 and CE when i was 3 years old. the originals are timeless masterpieces, idk how i feel about this new stuff, IMO reach was the last good/real halo.
@@holycloud2900 right??? reach was amazingn
I love how you see how she did care for them. She may not show it openly but they where like children to her. She did what had to be done in her eyes to save humanity. I think my favorite part is when she says “ don’t underestimate them. But most importantly don’t underestimate him.”
Spartan 1 and 2's werent created to save humanity
@@Deo12345Redhead So they were created for what purpose?
@@beworgen to crush human rebellion
@@Deo12345Redhead I see, but I think that for UNSC end the rebellions was a part of "saving humanity"
@@beworgen when they had human rebellion the covenant had not invaded yet
"Your mistake is seeing Spartans as military hardware" If you've played Halo Infinite already, you know how much this line really means something when it comes to Master Chief.
And Dr Catherine Halsey’s work and her people she worked a lot on.
Halo 4 Intro: Serious, dramatic and question inducing introduction to new trilogy.
Halo 5 Intro: Hurrr durrrr Avengers!
Glad im not the only one who felt like halo 5's into felt like a rip off of the beginning of Avengers AOU 😂
I just don't like that they turned all the original suits into the new design.
Fans: "You're bending history for your own favour and you know it."
The old suits looked terrible, and that would have created a fair chunk more work just to create a better model for them, instead of using the models they already had.
The old suits are what fans like its iconic and more appealing to the eye
@@Devastator21 well everybody is giving 343 shit for having the balls to try something new so
@@clayyoung6369 No. They're giving shit because it dosen't add up with past events. Was chief thrusting around in halo 1-3? No but the cutscenes made it look like he had that ability since Halo 1.
@@clayyoung6369 no, were mad because they fucked shit up. That's like if KitKat removed the breaking part of kitkat (The iconic part of KitKat i should say) and just gave you a solid rectangle of KitKat, and heres you:"evErY bOdY MaD bEcaUsE tHeY tRiED SomeTHinG nEw". Trying new things is awesome, but only when it makes sense and works and looks cool.
Halsey makes a good point. She may have created them to crush Insurrectionists, but in the end they saved humanity. In that she can justify her actions, however inhumane they were.
This person seems to want her to confess to the inhumane things she did. That leads me to believe that this is a person looking to prosecute her for what she did. I hope Halo 6 will shed some light on this.
It had nothing to do with wanting to prosecute her, she's absolutely correct in that. It had everything to do with them wanting to replace John, and wanted to know what she thought made him so successful.
@@Shiketaum You realize that other than the specifics, the overall project was at the orders of ONI? I mean, blame her if you really... really want to, I guess, but recognize that regardless of her involvement, ONI was willing to do whatever it took to crush the separatists, and later the Covenant. Yes, what she did wasn't pretty, nor particularly ethical, but it's not nearly as bad as it could have been.
ONI's been on her ass for years
It won’t (:
This person is jun
ONI operates like our own government. Put someone up to a horrible job and throw them under the bus when word gets out.
1:56 Fun fact that would be the only Brute to appear in Halo's 4 and 5.
she saved humanity
-She- John
@@Reach1335 but john wouldnt have existed in the same way if it wasnt for her ;)
She saved humanity on accident, the original Spartans were made to fight insurrectionists not the covenant.
Yep but she wasn't the only one John and the elites did too it's kind of funny when you think about it truth caused his own downfall by replacing the elites with brutes had he not done that the great schism would have never occured and the covenant would have most likely won his ego and overconfidence lost him the war lol.
Yeah but at what cost, and she saved humanity on complete accident.
This game is nearly a decade old. Let that sink in.
“Catherine, Spartans never die” chilled me to my bones
A hero to all of humanity, no matter what it cost.
"Do not underestimate... him."
So Halsey is basically a guardian/mother figure to Chief?
It's Worth Trying notice that she is the only regular human to call the Chief by name she did that with all her Spartans
Not exactly. Halsey herself mentioned that while she sees herself as a sort of mother figure to her Spartans, the only ones they see as family are each other.
Zachary Gilmore depends on the spartan. You can basically divide the spartan IIs in two categories: 1) sees Halsey as a mother figure 2) wants to see Halsey dead
Well here also a thing Cortana is Ai clone of Halsey and master chief loved her to so Halsey a mother slash girlfriend slash sister to him
she is to all the spartan ii’s
Humanity's next step is a lack of socialization and mildly sociopathic Behavior but being capable of hyper violence.
When u realize the 2 voices there are the same as chief and cortana 😳
this is SUCH a powerful scene
loved the end of Halo 3, never thought the beginning of halo 4 would be so good.
Wake up chief - i need you
I keep coming here after watching episodes of the Halo TV series...this Halsey and the one in the show have such differences. This Halsey truly shows how much faith she has in John, no matter the odds, she knows he will win, while in the show she thinks John needs help and protection, as well as questions his choices and actions. Halsey is also a lot more commanding in presence and shows self-assurance here compared to the show, tho I think that may be due to a matter of age perhaps, but the way even young Halsey is written in halo lore, she has always been quite sure of her actions. Especially when it comes to her spartans.
I kinda like this halsey, she is more cold but brutally honest. The halsey in the TV series is sweet but very manipulative.
I like the canon Halsey, because she may have done terrible things, but she has regrets and cares for the Spartans. Silver Halsey is like, let’s erase John and replace him with Cortana.
Every time I watched this trailer, my first thought was ,at least give them damn pillows.
never underestimate a spartan.... but never ever make the mistake of underestimating THE spartan that broke the mold
Halo 4 spartans drop down with jump jets...... Halo infinite, nah we going back to drop pods. Seems like 343 has no idea what vision they want for Halo anymore.
This is definitely happening after Halo 4 and beginning of Halo 5. Chief went rogue, after some huge fight the chief is presumed dead. Though she knows he is alive because he escaped and she got captured out at the outer colonies. A huge civil war erupts and the senator wants answers.
Never mind she has both her hands still, unless she got a new one haha.
Brady Johnson but she got two arms
So android arms possibly Kat has one
Blast from the future, no, it's happening at the beginning of 4, cheif is believed dead after the Forward Unto Dawn split in half after the events of Halo.
@@thelowground7741 lol thanks (my additional comment from six years blows my OG comment out of the water.)
its Jun A266, he wants to know more about the older program, so he can make adjustments to his Spartan IV prgram.He's using a voice disguise other than that he is bald head and all the signs are there.
Hint:
Halsey -'You want to replace him'
@V-Rex Mega bullshit. The voice is completely different, even taking away from the fact that Jun has a Russian accent. The voice is way too deep, the accent is perfect American, and that is completely different from the way Jun talks. Not to mention, Jun had a tattoo of a hand holding arrows, it doesn't look like the interrogator has that tattoo
Lasky was a key part in the Spartan IV program (Jun was too). It's Lasky interrogating her.
The IVs are all decorated, experienced marines and ODST, meaning they don't have the same emotional suppressants as the IIs or IIIs, which is why he's talking about them lacking basic humanity.
@@SailorPupitar You are all wrong lmao. It's someone that Musa Ghanem, aka Musa-096 sent. He's the head of the SPARTAN-IV program. A former SPARTAN-II washout. He would know how fucked everything from the project was considering his history with it. Another hint to this is from the book "New Blood" where he tells Buck that the humanity in SPARTAN-IV's is very important, and sets them apart from the preceding Spartan generations
@@Boopy357 but wouldn't Halsey recognized him if he was Musa? It's unlikely she wouldn't recognize one of her spartans especially since she was always able to tell them apart back when they wore identical armor
@@CT--wq2ly I didn't say Musa himself. He's already too high up in the ranks to do interrogations himself.
Interesting things to note-
1- Spartans 'never die" due to propaganda, to avoid a moral drop, any spartan killed in action or otherwise is listed as M.I.A. John just happened to be just so- but everyone believed him to he.
2- Spartans were indeed intended to crush human rebellions, not the covenant. They were taken at 6 years old and "reforged" through horrible processes on Reach. It just so happened that it was just in time for said war to come.
3- Due to the growing distane regular soldiers had twards Spartans, they often were woefully under credited for their deeds. Akin more to a group effort than it acually was. If they gave a metal to a spartan every time they earned one, they could forge a whole new suit out of them.
And 4- Sargent Johnson was a Spartan 1, or at least a prototype. Obviously there wasn't quite the same process or development of armor at the type as with the spartan 2's. They also learned that adults were suboptimal for the process. And since the whole thing wasn't really a booming success, it was buried under red tape. But makes things a little easier to understand how he got off the ring
Grudgingly as it may have been... Halsey's work saved humanity many times over
It always confused me when he said “master chief is dead” then says “Spartans never die”
Aye Co Breeze the reason Spartans are listed as Mia is to spread the legend that Spartans never die.. I think he was mocking her for claiming he’s listed as Mia kinda like saying yeah we all know what that means
It’s a play on Spartans the Ancient Greek warriors obviously it’s the “spartan” part.
But Rhodesians (modern day Zimbabwe) were thought to never die because they were cut off from all supply’s for decades but still fought on until South Africa (apartheid government) backed out and Rhodesia became Zimbabwe and that’s the “Rhodesians never die” became Spartans never die
I appreciate not everyone attacking me for not knowing. Goes to show you how awesome the halo community is. Been playing since original Xbox. I’ll be fan no matter how much it changes. Thanks for explaining that to me. It’s always seemed like a contradiction thanks again though for explaining.
Aye Co Breeze I don’t even fall for the far fetched voodoo of other things Star Wars, Star Trek, dungeons and dragons. Space wizards and or orks never felt real enough to immerse me in the world but in halo little things like the accents of the marines Irish, Scottish, Mexican, South African and Australian plus humanity’s willingness to commit war crimes and cover ups (like in real life) felt real enough that my brain nearly accepted it as truth.
Hes being sarcastic. He scoffs and goes "Spartans never die?". This is because Spartans are human too, and its silly to pretend that they're missing when they're dead, which they believed to be the case, since he's been missing for years.
who else in the UNSC can name every Spartan II by name, NOT designation number, fully armored + helmets? Dr. Kathrine Halsey thats who.
Well 2 be fair no one in the UNSC can know because of how secretive they are it’s like does every British soldier know the name of every MI6/MI7 agent? No. Halsey does because she’s the one who actually hand picked them. ( fact when people learn the identities of mi7 agents the agents are stripped, beaten and shoved in a bag in their own apartment)
I think Sigorney Weaver would be an excellent casting role
The officer that asking the questions never gets distracted
Remember sure Halsey had the idea to kidnap kids and turn them into super soldiers, but it was ONI who gave Halsey the OK
Exactly; they're building ultimate soldiers. Just like in Star Wars they use younger minds to do that
She's right, her Spartans saved Humanity, they are Our Next Step, a new Breed of Super Humans!!!
“Challenge insights conflict, and conflict breeds catastrophe.”
Vision
I think I know what the biggest problem with Halsey was. Her lack of compassion and empathy for others, like those Spartan soldiers for example. Since they were turned into super soldiers, some of their humanity was stripped away where they didn't live normal lives, and it was all because of her. If she was forced to undergo the same stuff she made them undergo, I bet she wouldn't like it either. She can sit there and say her work saved the human race, but it wasn't her body that was altered, or her own humanity stripped away, in the process.
Well
She actualy cares a lot of all spartans 2
If I remember correctly she sees them as they childrens
Some of them call her "mom"
John call her whit respect he don't skip the doctor tittle
"Katherine, Spartan's never die!"
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You can't judge Halsey in strictly black and white terms. She's a shades of grey character. I don't feel she shows enough repentance, or acceptance for the horrific act that is kidnapping children to indoctrinate them into pure killing machines, and she adopts a very post-hoc 'ends justify the means' conclusion. In a sense she was 'fortunate' that the Covenant War erupted as it gives a nice veneer to the Spartan-II programme; in an alternate timeline, where the Covenant either didn't exist or didn't find humanity or otherwise didn't go to war with Humanity, the Spartan-IIs likely would have continued in their original intended purpose of being the scalpel of a totalitarian UNSC regime, crushing freedom and self-determination of other human populations. Nevertheless, she's quite right in her claim that her work did litterally save the human race (which, if it even needs to be said, is a moral good). So I have to admit, the ends DO justify her means - but it doesn't justify her philosophy, her attitude, or HER.
Tbf the Insurrectionists were no saints either. Considering how much of a detriment to the race's development it would have been for us to devolve in a squabbling clutch of warring tribes ruled by warlords the UNSC had to be a bit iron fisted at times. The Gen II's were a result of someone not distracted by hand-wringing to get the job done.
@@ethrsag735The insurrectionists had every right to want to succeed from the UEG. The core worlds treated them poorly, and they wanted to go, the UNSC started the mess, and the insurrectionists did their job and responded.
Looks like 2 People underestimated Master Chief.
"My work saved the human race"
Honestly, i dont know a single lawyer who can argue that
"My Spartans are humanities next step. Our destiny as a species." That line makes my balls quiver like a jellyfish.
What the freak
imagine if you were captured, tortured by time travelers, force fed your own shit by time travelers, and they went through every single type of method they could think of in an attempt to kill you. Imagine being a monsterous freak to them to the point where you wouldn't have any friends.
I must admit really do love Halsey. The method used may not be Orthodox, but it proved good in the end.
Halo was a Fukn massive achievement can’t wait for a good film
So... Halsey kind of became a patsy for ONI? Because Halsey didn't do it all on her own, she just worked for ONI. In her journal (from the Halo Reach special edition) she says that she was hired amongst several other scientists and just got promoted as time went on because she was so talented. Halsey didn't even abduct the kids, she only met John and him alone, then ONI agents abducted them. She just oversaw their development. What I think happened was ONI couldn't keep a lid on the crimes they committed to make the Spartan IIs, so they used Halsey as a patsy and blamed everything on her.
Halsey needed test subjects and under her request, children were easier to indoctrinate. Just because she didn't kidnap them herself, doesn't mean she isn't guilty of it
I don’t think they were blaming her. As demeaning and antagonistic the interrogator was, Halsey called out his true intentions, which was to dissect the psyche of the spartan program and factory make a second MasterChief.
she is my hero
No one can replace chief and chief will never die .
And then halo 5 happened and they basically ignored the Master Chief entirely.
Definitely not Locke, you see his hand 0:28 it's pale white so that rules it out
Personally I think it could be Jun from halo reach (he looks baldy) and he lost his accent
Goddamn I get so fucking HYPE when she says not to underestimate the chief, like holy shit I'm shaking
As any creator to their magnum opus, she loves him. And it shows.
Benjamin Giraud
3:03 This part used to give me the creeps, it's that voice thing lol
I watch this now and I feel like it's Chief who is talking to her. It's just the voice and in a way how he says things. When he talks about "At his core, he was broken." It sounded personal
The voice is different, Chief doesn't seem like he would make this kind of interrogation himself, she would recognise him even if she couldn't see him and so she wouldn't make the "What does John have to do with this" comment.
ITS NOT CHIEF
Chief doesn't hate her though, nor blame her for what happened, or hold any ill-will at all. He, as well as a good *most* of the rest of the Spartan-IIs that still live, look at her as a mother figure. They care a great deal about her, and she them.
instead of of saying that she is a criminal we must taking here of a queen
no matter how much the UNSC disagrees with her actions she is simply the next step in human civilization not just her spartans but doctor halsey herself we can only imagine how strong the spartan IV would be if she created them let alone created the mark VI i personally love her as a character and hope that they bring her back my reasoning is that she dint just look at the spartans as "Military Hardware" she looks at them as her greatest achievement and even as her own children i feel that with her the entire series of halo and all universe could be changed if they let her continue her work and the fact i think she could have stopped cortana from going rampant if she wasnt imprisoned
She is the representative to all American mothers
I wish.
No
A scientist who kidnaps and indoctrinates children all while experimenting on them in order to make them super soldiers is the average American mother? Jesus ...
*Chinese
1:08 to see that poor dude round off that Sangheili's Killionaire
She saw the future and did some thing about it
"Do not underestimate them but most of all do underestimate him"
Do not underestimate HIM*
Snowed in playing again. Wake up Chief.
Spartans never die
Do not underestimate them...but most of all do NOT underestimate HIM....
So the AIs were just to keep the Spartans sane?
Her tone changed REAL quick when he bad mouthed the Chief...
It kinda like someone shit talked about there kid in from of there mother
The Librarian saved the Human Race
Edit: 0:01-3:01
I really feel like this was us, hooked onto halo at a young age for me I was the same age as the Spartans when they started to “train” I feel like he’s talking about our generation 01 when he says children idk 😭😭.
Damn I got the same feeling
It pains me to watch Halo 5 scenes after seeing something like this, like how did 343 go backwards in terms of graphics???
The children abducted for the Spartan II program would have died in the war with the covenant, had they not been...along with the rest of humanity.
I hate that he thinks the spartan 2s have sociopathic tendencies when they fight they’re literally thinking of one thing, that’s to save humanity when they were killing the covenant, they care a lot for each other and humanity
I still remember when I was 5, or 6, thinking about this, before Halo ever existed, with a lab, and being a child in that lab, just like this. You've been leeching off of me for a long time now.
They cannot comprehend. whatever we do is for the greater good of humanity..😊..
All though she kidnapped children,which was crime in the end her decision helped humanity win the war,the Masterchief was her favourite ❤️
Most importantly, do not underestimate him.
👏Yes 👏 Halsey👏
They're all our children
Just put a witch hat on kathy and everything makes sense.
Conflict doing it again
Awake ⏰️
Awake
I get the gist on where this interrogater was going for, but it's shameful to replace a man that cannot be forgotten.
When you look at WWII's American USS Enterprise, they can be replaced as hardware, but not the name.
Spartans are humans, not machines.
*Spartans Never Die*
If they implemented this into the series bruh
So, I was made to believe this is Jun, interviewing her. How did my dude lose his cool accent?
Where is mastechief where are those unbroken elements of permanent morality
Gotta watch fall of reach really like how they portrayed her in that. But it is clear she loves the Spartans at first because it was her work but I think she genuinely loves John like a mother. Which would be cool to see her regret her actions and such but nope that’s to easy for 343 lol
Remember reach
anyone know the background soundtrack @1:51 ?
Spartans 😊
0:00, 0:01, 0:05, 0:06, 0:09, 0:10, 0:30, 0:31, 0:46, 0:57, 0:58, 0:59, 2:01, 2:02, 2:35, 2:36, 2:37, 2:38, 2:39
I was right.
What if the man questioning her is Jun?
It could Locke, Jun, or...
I think its Jun
Not Locke you can see his hand was pale white, definitely a white guy, Locke would not be pale
Tracking becon launched
Dr halsey 4174
It’s such a cool intro.
Now if only the game didn’t suck…
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