2022 VW Tiguan | Surprise, It's Well Done
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- We review the new 2022 VW Tiguan, which starts at around $25,000. We detail the good and bad and discuss how it compares to others in the midsize SUV segment. Others to consider are the Mazda CX5, Toyota RAV4, Ford Edge, Chevy Blazer, Honda Passport, and Kia Sportage.
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00:00 Interior and Exterior Discussions
3:59 Mechanical Impressions and Costs
5:44 Driving Impressions
10:21 Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I really love how concise your videos are! You manage to fit absolutely everything we need to know in 12 minutes. Some others can't do that in 25-30 minute videos. Keep up the great work guys! :)
It’s 12 minutes becasue they aren’t excited about the car:)
@@DWK33 lol
@@DWK33 well let’s be honest here who would want to have a 12 minute video about the GT4RS and a 25min video on a Tiguan instead ahah 😂
Others drag it out for more ad revenue.
Too bad these concise videos are being wasted on SUVs..
VW. Quality. Refined. Power that's relevant. We have 2 now.
I bought a 22 Tiguan SE R-line black, 6 months ago. I’m not in any way disappointed with this vehicle. It’s super comfortable and really nice to drive. It’s not “fast” but it can get out of its own way just fine. The AWD makes it great in the snow. I personally think it’s nicer then the 22 Audi Q3 another family member of mine bought, although that’s debatable . I think the thought of it driving like a larger golf is spot on. I came from a ‘17 gti and that was my first thought of the tiguan.
Cargo space is amazing. I can fit 2 rear facing infant seats without having to adjust the front seats.
I think the gripes about the haptic controls are valid but it isn’t really as horrible as many are making it out to be. I lived through an Iowa winter with it and it’s not a huge deal. Time will tell how durable those piano black faces are.
I had the same feeling with a golf R. It felt very high quality, way better than what you expect for VW. It made me wonder why going to Audi.
I love mine also
Having just moved from a 19 Tiguan SEL-P to a 22 GTI, I have to agree that they pretty much nailed the pluses and minuses in this review.
My wife has a 2018 q3 last model of first gen, which we purchased new. It's been a good little car for her. She is petite and we only have one child. I test drove this 22 tiguan here in Canada highline r (top model as shown in video) vehicle surprised me. Has tons of cargo and the touch buttons, although annoying were not a deal breaker for me. The problem I had was the power. I am currently driving a 2010 x3 for the last 12 years and coming from a naturally aspirated inline 6 with 268hp to this. Night and day difference. Here in Canada I asked, however they are not bringing a tiguan r model like Europe 300hp+. Had this vehicle had 20-30 more torque and hp I would have purchased without a second thought. Even my wife's 2018 q3 with 200hp and torque was quicker. Probably due to thE wieght difference as well. An overall well built vehicle, just lacking thr bottom end to really make it shine.
Went to pick up my 22 SE-R black today and it was still in wrapping paper :(
My brother and his wife were pro-Toyota for decades. That ended when his wife, an Avalon driver since 1998, saw the new one and was stunned on how Toyota screwed it up so badly. Somehow, they eneded up at the VW dealer and she saw the Arteon and was in love. They bought an SEL R-Line and it is really sleek. He traded his daily RAV4 for a Tiguan SEL R-Line and said similar things mentioned here. The structure feels far more substantial, the highway driving experience is borderline luxury car, and the space efficiency is great. I changed his oil for him(shockingly easy on a VW) and he was at about 48K trouble-free miles(he drives 105mi round trip per day).
The point is that after 5-7 years, you will need to repair the automatic gearbox and the turbo, which cost a lot. All previous Tiguan had this issue fact that doesnt give too much confidence in the new one. While the RAV4 has a spotless track record in the reliability subject.
@@sorinmiliescu valid points. But the avg buyer these days aren't keeping vehicles much past warranty. Reliability is a key metric, but daily ownership matters too.
I love that you test the audio systems, and keep the manufacturers on the hook for that, and also the other cost-cutting areas that other review miss.
I find the older Fender units are very good value for the money - but he is right the bass can be a touch muddy depending on the song.
The issue with this segment is its incredibly over saturated and they're all so close. It's really a question of "does it give you the fuel economy you want" and "do you like the interior" because that's what's selling 99% of these. Anything else is just a bonus
Big surprise, generic cars are generic. Is there a huge difference between a 1997 Camry, Accord, Maxima? Was there a huge difference between the Ford Explorer and the Chevy Trailblazer at the same time? No, they're appliances, not everyone wants their economy car to have supercharger whine and carbon fiber accents. Most people, believe it or not, are not so devoid of personality that they feel they need their car to say, "hey, aren't I interesting? aren't I someone special? mommy loved me best."
I've had my Tiguan for two years and I absolutely love it. The ride and drivetrain performance are extraordinary. It has that "planted" feel on the road which makes it much easier to drive. And let's face it, it is much more attractive than the other CUV's out there.
I agree. Its a beautiful suv. Thinking of grabbing one for myself for the 2022 model.
Agree on my 2019!
The sel trim line is gorgeous, however the base s and se without the r line are still lookers as well
Nicely said i agree
Just got my 2024 se yesterday and I love it. What Mark says about how solid it feels its absolutely on point. It drives really well and due to the torque in its intended use, thats city driving and commuting, it feels quite peppy.
Now a CUV to end the week!! Nothing will make me feel better about this crappy wintry mix we are getting in April, than watching another CUV review!! LIFE IS GOOD!!
It’s such a surreal experience! It makes me wanna get a tattoo that says “My other car is a Hyundai Tucson”
I share your guys' disdain for CUVs/SUVs, but your reviews on everything are so darn good, I watch them all.
Same
I'll never understand this disdain
Crossovers are the perfect size for a single guy. Enough space to carry stuff, but small enough that it gets good gas mileage, is fun to drive, and easy to park.
@@wesleythompson451 I fully acknowledge that not everyone has the same needs as me, but single people used to have coupes or 3-door hatchbacks or small sedans and they made do. I've done small road trips with 4 adults in my FR-S, and it was fine so long as we stopped every hour or so to stretch our legs.
The problem I have with the industry trend to CUVs is that SUVs are right there if you need space, and CUVs are replacing the truly small cars that used to work just fine (and in reality, still do). Now everyone just sits higher and interior volumes haven't changed all that much.
@@HandsomeAlex25 I just moved from a hatchback to a crossover, and the space doubled. I'm not sure what you mean. I got exactly what I needed, which was some trunk space, a heavier vehicle for snow driving, a better seating position, so I can see past cars in front of me sometimes, and some rear passenger space for when I drive my friends around.
It's amazing how much you guys make me enjoy reviews for vehicles I have no interest in. Informative, entertaining, and immaculately produced.
You guys do great, informative reviews. I'm also happy you also touch on the quality of the audio systems which other journalists tend to ignore or don't care/understand audio quality.
Love the cross-comparison!
Very, very helpful.
Thank you guys for more great work.
Here is why this is a better SUV. You can drop it an inch with H&R Sport Springs, and then you can go out and get you a nice set of BBS or VMR wheels, and add on some Michelin Pilot Sports on it, and it will look every bit as good as a Audi SQ5 or BMW X5 at half the price. I did those mods to mine, and it's amazing how many people stop me to ask "wow, what kind of SUV is that?" And they are blown away when I tell them how little I paid for it compared to what it looks like.
I’m a sub because you guys always go above and beyond… esp with the audio sound, interior noise, and under body. My fave channel by far!! 💯
I’ve owned a 2020 Tiguan for over a year. Here are some of my experiences:
1. The interior is an amazing place to be; it is high quality and comfortable.
2. Highway MPG is great, I got around 31-34 when mostly using highways.
Now I ended up getting rid of it due to some headaches:
1. Rattles in the cabin.
2. Constant service trips. Sunglasses holder broke several times. Suspension creak when going over bumps. Factory fit and finish issues.
This car is very well thought out. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to have been screwed on well. I don’t miss it like it miss my MK4 VR6 Jetta
If you've ever owned a well-built, reliable, cheap-to-repair car from the Japanese brands, it's hard living with a VW. Stuff constantly goes wrong and is weirdly expensive to repair if not covered by warranty. It's too bad, because the VWs drive so nicely.
Hmmm so different than mine. I have a 2019 and it feels screwed well excellent and feels like a tank- very quiet. Sorry your experience was crappy
@@TheDaltonNetwork absolutely correct, I usually get Mazdas but have leased 2 VW’s. Fortunately I don’t put lots of miles on mine so I haven’t run into any bad experiences or poorly made VW’s at least during my lease periods.
Sounds like your Tiguan was Mexican.
I love this channel , they tell you everything you need to hear and nothing you don’t . Then in the end they say see you soon , they don’t tell you to subscribe and like 😂👍🏼
VW fixed the EA888 lineup in 2014 with the gen3 introduction, so I feel like they've been good engines as of late. Good torque down low makes the engines fun to drive with
Engines are rarely a problem amymore. That VW was having problems was unusual, as most makes don't. It's all the other stuff that breaks down, not the engines.
@@markmiller3279 yeah , exactly , even in most cars its more all the bullshit gizmos that break down before the engine , even german cars. The tiguan engine has been perfected over the last 21 year since the 2.0t launched in 2001 , may of been earlier
@@georgehugeabutt9947 dude are you high? The Tiguan has not been out for 21 years, nor had the EA888
Feels like a small diesel in a lot of ways, it does pull off the bottom and makes it really drive able around town
@@markmiller3279 When it comes to VAG engines there has been problems with a lot of the petrol engines.
1.4 and 2.0 mainly, but also the 1.2.
The 2.0 TFSI in the Audi A4/A5 B8 was very much to stay clear from.
Heck! Change gas, refill oil is a classic VAG joke for a reason.
Love my Tiguan 1.5 petrol DSG 2021 regular size 5 seater. Smooth, comfortable, spacious. It really is a work of art. The haptics temp controls are fine for me; I don't understand why everyone gripes about them. It's a car that grows on you the more you drive it and it really becomes part of the family.
I just picked up a 22 Mazda CX-5 Signature, I was a 25 year Audi/ VW guy, I looked the other way at reliability since I did the majority of my own service, but my 2014 A4 was a pile from the moment it hit 50K, carbon build-up, bad ZF trans, bad injector, then the all too familiar timing chain jump. I faithfully changed oils at 5K, plugs at 30K, but when it started to devour Liqui-Moly 2.5 quarts per 1000 miles…..I was done. VAG makes great looking and driving cars, but never again.
Same experience for me with my Audi. In a Lexus now.
Yep sounds about right. Similar experience on my s4.
To keep it runing, you needed to clean a oil pickup hose mesh found when you remove your oil pan. That is the main issue with all TSI,TSFI engines. Your engine didn't get the lubrication or coolling effect from oil and that is why starts burning oil and has all that soot.
@@budalanemac3115 Thanks, never knew that, I had a 2.8 2V A4 Quat for 23 years, that car was never an issue, the newer 2014 always had something.
@@randyp6370 Reason for that is a stupid design. Older enginis are 10xbetter then new ones.
Canadian buyer here, bought the 22 Tiguan Comfortline R-Line (Your SE R line with some difference like the nicer digital gauge screen and AWD standard) and absolutely love it. Whenever I drive people around in it like friends and family, they always remark about how comfortable it is. My dad said it was like riding in a limo. Personally, mine came from the factory, never driven on the road or test driven and I paid to have it sprayed top to bottom to prevent rust as we use lots of road salt here. Having driven it in some nasty weather it felt very sturdy and I had complete confidence in it to perform. People will harp on the Horse power numbers, but really it doesn't feel slow. For me, I loved the German design elements and styling and it's an absolutely pleasant and smooth cruiser. I'm not out here trying to win stop light street races. It does get the suggest MPG for AWD for me, but I have pushed it further with very smooth accelerations and stops. I got the all blacked out Tig and people honestly think it costs more than it did.
Let me just say this though, because every car reviewer hates this about the Tig... I actually like the Steering wheel and HVAC controls. Perhaps because I'm an Zoomer (mid 20's) but I like the way it lights up and looks and I've never had difficulties operating it. Everything about it made sense for me to use on a daily basis but I get it's a personal preference thing.
Another thing to note. My purchase came with Sirius satellite radio... Please VW let us opt out of this. I don't want it, Spotify is better and I already have it. Sirius will not stop calling me to purchase since the trial ended. (Which I didn't use once)
Hi, VW fan from BC, mind if sharing the maintenance/service cost of 22 Tiguan? Thanks.
Does your Suv have a block heater already🎉 when you brought it?
I am happy to own the 2022 R-line black edition as I heard you guys said good things about this 2022 Vw Tiguan and you guys are honest and good reviews , thanks
My wife recently bought a brand new Tiguan R-line in white and absolutely loves it. It’s an SE but has 4-motion optioned on it. The R-line is definitely the better looking trim especially with the black wheels.
Our 2019 Tiguan SEL 4Motion has been pretty fantastic overall. It's a very comfortable car that does everything pretty well. 40k miles and no issues to speak of as of yet. Having a full warranty until 72k helps quite a bit as well! :)
Own the same Tiguan in the same trim with just over 40k miles. Also no issues and super pleased about the warranty.
Also have a 2019 VW with no isseus. 6yr/72K warranty definitely provides great peace of mind
Exactly the same experience. 2019 SEL 4Motion with close to 50k miles. Zero issues, been a great ride so far. Glad mine older so as to avoid the new crappy buttons and lack thereof!
Exactly the same
I just bought one recently and love it. We test-drove a CX-5 fully anticipating to drive away in one, but were surprised at how firm the handling was. That's great if you want sporty handling, but it felt like driving a jackhammer. The Tiguan in comparison felt like driving on a couch. Can't recommend it enough to anyone cross-shopping the two if you prefer lighter and more comfortable handling.
I liked the CX5 cuz it gives a bit more feedback on what the cars doing. Also the seats in the CX5 is much better than the Tiguan, at least from my experience
Hopefully, you lease it. Only a fool wants to own a VW after the warranty expires.
Just lease it though. I would rather have slightly firm suspension than have to deal with a TSI + DSG out of warranty.
I just did opposite. Funny. I want s cst thst last 20 Years. Wirh a Volkswagen, never possible
I wanted to like the CX5 but I want a daily driver to be isolated not sporty. The CX5 is beautiful but the Bose stereo was poor, front seat bottoms too short, overall too small, and too much NVH from the front for my liking.
That transition at 0:29 was truly beautiful.
Bought my ‘22 Tiguan SE FWD in December to replace a ‘17 Golf that was getting high in mileage. Agree that overall it drives very smooth and feels very solid, which is why I like VW’s. Engine isn’t very exciting, but once you get going it’s fine, and very capable on the highway. Have been averaging 26 mpg in mixed driving. So far no issues. One other advantage was not having to pay over MSRP like many of the Tiguan’s competitors.
These cars drive extremely nice. Peppy and very solid feeling. I drove a couple 2018 Tiguans on different occasions and really enjoyed it.
Great overview guys, thank you!
1. Sexiest music & opening for a long while
2. Great comparison
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I bought the 2018 VW Tiguan SE plus special fog lights for my wife . She likes it so much. The water pump out around 36,000 miles under warranty. Cargo area and third row seats are the down side. Very good gas mileage on freeway.
Well done guys, I like the comparison you made.
Another very useful review.
I feel like this is a channel that both the viewers and brand sponsors can be proud of
It’s also great looking both in photos and in person.
Love your channel and watch every video. One competitor you did not mention is the Subaru Forester. When shopping CUVs 3 years ago the Forester was the best option for us. Visibility is best in class. It’s like driving in a fishbowl. The seats were super comfortable for us, especially for my 5 foot wife. The rear seats were very spacious and offered heating and USB ports. AWD system is best in class and with a set of Michelin Cross Climate Plus a monster in the snow and still great on the highway. Handling and power train not the best, but totally fine at 3 to 5 tenths which is how my wife drives and VERY safe for my 17 year old son. This is not a car about fun. It’s all about practicality with reasonable comfort. Plus the resale values are amazing. Loves how the cx5 drives but the rear seat is unacceptable for teenagers and adults.
FYI I keep a 2010 mx5 with modified suspension for when I want to have fun.
I bought a 2022 Tiguan SEL Premium R-Line last month and I am IN LOVE!!! I also have a Honda Civic Type R and I can honestly say the interior on the Tiguan is much nicer.
Refined is the perfect description for the refreshed Tiguan
Loved the music in the start
this is the first time ive seen jack not disappointed by a people mover SUV
I owned one of these. I wish Jack would have mentioned that the 2nd row bench slides back & forth 6”. But thanks for mentioning that it’s a spacious vehicle. My vehicle has a 2021 CX-5 and as was said, this Tiguan does dwarf the Mazda cargo capacity space wise.
Really happy to see a Jack video again.
My family car is a 2012 tiguan and it's getting close to replacement time. If it wasn't for the fact that I want to go more upscale and larger I would hands down go with another tiguan. It has been incredibly reliable at 170000 miles.
I had a 2017 Limited and upgraded to a 21 SE Black R Line. Best decision
@@leospeeds500how is it as of today?
Looking to buy a 24’ Tiguan but concern is reliability.
I want to keep the car well past warranty
@@CalsVlogs so far no problems, it’s been good to me so far.
I did a price&build R-Line which came to $40k. Nice car. My concern is cost after the warranty ends.
I love VW Tiguan. My new 2022 red one arrives tomorrow.
Bought the 22 SEL R-line... love this vehicle... not built for speed but it is fast enough for my needs... Rural driving but I'll pass you if you're not doing 80 issues... drove it from Miami to the US/Canada border and did just fine at highway speeds
We love our 2020 Tiguan!
I've had a 2014 GLI with Fender speakers and now I have the 22 Tiguan Highline. The sound system is better than this guy says in my opinion.
First time watcher. Are you guys brothers.
Never understood the piano black gripe, it takes a single minute to wipe it down with an interior wipe and buff with a microfiber... that's it 🤣
Maintenance on VW/Audi requires a generous repair budget. Especially if the engine bay is full of plastic parts that go bad quickly. They make nice cars but it'll be nice if they added some reliability in the mix.
Would you say this is still true for the newer VW models? I’m seriously considering the newer Tiguan but really turned off by the reliability
I have a Mk7 R ('17) with 55k on the clock (its tuned and I drive the piss out of it but with the utmost mechanical sympathy). I had the clutch go bad at 8,600 miles (common issue, the OEM is made of velcro and cannot handle a tune), the thermostat housings crack and leak extremely slowly (you will never see wetness as it evaporate off too fast) I got mine replaced under warranty because I could smell coolant. I have done a front wheel bearing (also common on MQB VWs) as well. That is all, it has otherwise been dead reliable and none of those things left me stranded. I did the clutch myself for $600 in parts and I think the wheel bearing cost like $25. All told not too bad.
@@flacjacket my mustang has as many miles as your R and I have had literally 0 maintenance issues. What you’ve been put through is ridiculous and should be totally unacceptable.
@@d4nvu While VW may be cracking mid-tier in reliability for compact cars, Consumer Reports has their small SUVs (Tiguan and Taos) solidly AT THE BOTTOM of their respective categories in Reliability based on non-biased info from the last three years.
@@flacjacket that’s not a good track record for any car with 55k miles. I understand yours is tuned but to fry any clutch in that mileage unless you tripled the horsepower……and a thermostat and wheel bearing too.
Awesome review, i love how you touched on how much room it has inside compared to the competition, this was something that shocked me when i test drove it as no other reviewers i saw mentioned this. One other fun bit of information is that the Tiguan and Rav4 actually share the same 8 speed transmission provided by Aisin (only in North America)
The previous Tiguan was criticized for being too small, so when VW redesigned it they went the other way and made it one of the biggest in its class.
Great video, but honestly those climate controls are not bad. I used them in the new passat and they work great and it's uncomplicated
great review
As always LOVE your videos !!! ( Buy this, Lease this, at 59,999 miles, sell it , give it back, and RUN !!!!! ( my last VW at 18,000 miles started to leak coolant, and boost leaks later, ..... but amazing car to drive )
I've always felt like if reliability wasn't a concern on these cars, or at least the stigma of reliability, VW should be selling way more of these. Definitely one of the most usable, refined CUVs in this segment for the money.
I say stigma because for the last ten years I believe these cars to be reliable with the proper maintenance. Cost of ownership still higher than your typical JDM picks though.
I’ve got a Mk 7 4Motion Sportwagen. When I was getting my GT3 the dealer gave me a Macan Base as a loaner to get to the hotel and back while they prepped the car. It drove like a Golf Mk 7 with Porsche paddles behind the steering wheel and a Porsche logo in the middle of the steering wheel.
Just purchased this exact model, trim and color, though with a black interior. I'm in love with it, and can say this review nailed it. The less than perfect audio can be drastically helped by adjusting the bass, mid, and treble. The haptic steering wheel and climate sliders bother me less than I thought they would. It looks fantastic and handles really well. I can be a professional, new dad in this, doing runs to costco without spending over 40k. I think it would crush the rav4 if there was a hybrid trim with a bit more power.
How has your Tig been after 1 year? Have one like this on order. Thanks!
@rteitel1974 it's been good! It's a solid tank but handles very well. The only issue is the acceleration while the engine is cold is very jerky if you're not careful. But once it's warmed up that goes away. I wish the drives seat went lower. Otherwise it's beautiful, has AWD, lots on interior space without looking big on the outside. Doesn't get the gas mileage of honda crv or other cuv's with CVT transmissions, but not bad at 30 on the highway and 27 mpg long term avg. In sport mode it can feel quite fast off the line but doesn't have a lot of power at speed (184 hp). Wish it had more power and could tow more than 1500lbs. That's about it!
Thanks for the report. Mine arrives at the dealership this Saturday. It was a tough decision due to the lack of power. My thought is that if the lack of power bothers me, I can always get an inexpensive stage 1 tune. I just think this design will age well and so many cars these days look of the time.@@jchaps1
@rteitel1974 I agree the design will age well. And I was also looking at the apr ecu tune that adds 25% more HP for 500$. But I'm going to wait until my warranty expires before I do that. That tune also fixes the non linear throttle issue and deactivates the engine start/stop as default upon start up. So absolutely worth every penny, it just voids your power train warranty.
@@jchaps1 I got my Tig finally and honestly the lack of power doesn't bother me. Gorgeous color! The APR stage 1 tune won't necessarily negate the powertrain warranty. I'm going to wait a few months to get it though to see how the car plays out regarding oil consumption.
To put things into perspective re: the engine, I am fairly sure this is the same EA888 that’s in my precious little rocket, the 2015 VW Polo GTI, the only difference being the increased capacity from 1.8 to 2.0. I can only say it is an excellent engine, and in a Polo it is insane in torque and power to weight ratio.
That said, excellent quality videos, cheers from Europe.
Gotta say, the EA 888 is a proven engine as well. All the hot hatch guys beat on those and tune them.
They do really well if you just do about any maintenance :P
I just made my son with that intro music
Hot stud alert!
a perfect review
The Fender setup must have changed because the original, at least in the golf, was fantastic for the price.
When your serious, you both do a great job!
Not a fan of SUV's but this is one of the best looking.
VW is literally sitting on a gold mine with this car… I seriously SERIOUSLY think this thing could outsell everything IF, for future models and generations, they take the feedback and improve on it. If they are able to get back to physical controls, while stilling keeping the premium feel/tech of their infotainment, this thing could fly. Get rid of the piano black and add a model with Golf R speed. Quite literally the perfect daily. Feels like they’re so close to producing the perfect CUV and are teasing us…
I have the exact same sweater Jack has in that same color. I wear it only when I'm ripping through corners in my Chevy Trax.
Great review, I am surprised to hear about the fender system being inadequate as everyone likes it way more than the lower level system. How bad is the lower trim stereo?
It rips with a tune if anyone ever wants to take a bite of the forbidden fruit! Very reliable still with APR 93 Oct. tune. My wife is in absolute love with hers 😊
You have the apr for the 2022?
VW's last gen infotainment is such a blessing here. They had it just right. Pour one out for the Golf fans. Side note: VW has seriously diluted the R badge, but corporate stinginess paid off in a way-- the EA888 motor has come a seriously long way since Gen 1.
I leased a 2022 Tiguan SE at the end of last year for the sign and drive event after my B8 S4 decided it wanted to unalive itself. I got a SE as I wanted the standard buttons on the steering wheel but I absolutely hate the haptic controls on the HVAC and the only way to get a standard hvac controls is on the base and I wanted to safety features on the car. Overall, it’s a good car, it’s my wife’s daily and I took back over my tdi wagon. Overall, it’s a decent car. My only complaint is that you sit too high in the drivers seat and it doesn’t go down low enough to fix it.
What, an interior review by Jack without the term 'noise floor' being dropped? That's his trademark!
And perceived quality?
Shut up guys I am telling my mom.
Great review. For better or worse this is the most popular segment in the industry. Nice point in the DI only injection system as it is something I always look to compare in each new car. Maybe you could mention where each car is built because that does matter to some consumers.
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As always great job guys! Do you have engineering support with this video? I would love for you to grill them on why haptic controls are better than physical? Would be curious to see what their answer is when pushed on it.
They touched on it in a previous video. According to vw, they modeled it after a smartphone touch screen basically. Only problem is, the phones work well, the VWs not so much.
I LOVE the Tiguan but because it was so under-powered I had to pass. And like you pointed out, I hate the piano black slider controls. It's a senior thing I guess. I'm currently driving a 2019 VW Arteon SEL Premium R-Line with an APR+ Tune package. 359Hp w/ 348 lb/ft torque. Love it!
Those Arteons are pretty cool
I absolutely regret never jumping into an Arteon when I was car shopping 2 years ago. I've been looking at them lately, love their looks and everything. Glad to see APR got a tune for it to proper levels of what that car should be having.
@@Zerkerr well think of it this way, if you get an Arteon now, it's much better than back a 2019 version.
They gave the engine a different tune, so it now makes 300hp instead of 258 or whatever it was, and it has the 7spd dual clutch out the golf GTI, instead of the 8 speed automatic
Passed here for lack of power and my wife said “it looks like a minivan.”
I drove the Tiguan a few years ago. I absolutely loved everything about that vehicle. The only thing that stopped me from buying it was the lack of horsepower! Why doesn’t VW send the US the Tiguan R?
If they did I may genuinely have bought one, instead I bought a used Cayenne.
Causse they expect you to buy the Porsche Macan from the VAG family, duh
APR tune solves that problem
The lack of power and those stupid haptic touch controls lead me to buy a CX-5 Turbo instead. I don’t need the extra room; I had a first-gen Tiguan (R-Line) which I absolutely loved, and it gave me 10 years & 200K of trouble free driving. I wish I could’ve bought a new one of those. The Taos is too new (Mexico built) and also has a wheezy little motor. The Mazda’s turbo powertrain is stellar but the seats aren’t as good and the handling is horrible compared to my old Tiguan. I might have gone over to Audi but the nearest dealer is over 2 hours away from me.
@@leospeeds500 Does that void the warranty? Genuinely considering this for a next car for a family member, but only thing stopping me from recommending is the power.
Curious to see what you guys think of the new Rouge with the turbo 3 cyl
I wasn’t a fan of VW until I bought my 19 Atlas. It has been probably one of my most favorite cars that I have owned. They do a great job. This was a solid breakdown!
Just be aware that repairs and maintenance are very expensive. You probably haven't hit that phase yet. I had a VW touareg for many years and I sunk so much money into that thing.
@@sappyjohnson Not true anymore. (Still more expensive, but..) lots of VW parts are made in Mexico and can be found cheap.
@@android175 well that’s good to hear. Just to replace brakes and tires would cost me around $4000
@@sappyjohnson my god. My GTI was $600 for tires and $130 for both front brakes… the dealers are ripoffs.. (assuming u went to one)
@@sappyjohnson totally get it. Hopefully it goes alright. It came with the 10 year warranty, fingers crossed that we don’t have to use that too Kuching.
Looking forward to seeing how you compare the new Sportage against the others in this class
BAM!
Hyundai/Kia brakes don't last. Warping from 6k up. Eats oil from 5k. 2 bad . I liked the Tuscan hybrid and funky Sportage. Elantra N. But....
Just like that they proved you wrong !! You were very critical when this generation was first introduced in 2018/2019!
When he adjusted the temperature without a button or knob is all I needed to know. CX5 it is!
You better not buy a smart phone too. There is no knob it😂😅😊
I don't operate a cellphone screen while driving, its illegal for good reason.@@zenchito6732
Does the front passenger seat fold flat like on the old one? Than feature is actually super useful for carrying 8ft boards and other long things. Dedicated touch controls for the HVAC system are a complete waste and probably a deal breaker
I think VW wins in terms of solidity/body structure in its price segment. Toyota may be next and Honda close. Not sure about Mazdas, they seem pretty well built, too. And VWs also ride well and in a European way. The interiors are kind of cold and the seats firm and such, but the solidity is what I like about VWs.
So, I only listen to you guys bc of your Boxster GTS 4 liter review, which I like a lot (like, 40x +). My BGTS is right now floating toward Port Houston so I will comment on your review after some time behind the wheel. But! Tiguan: I have owned one now for 6 weeks, a SE 4Motion.
• You are right about the climate & infotainment controls - just awful - awful to live with - needs tactile buttons... forget about getting the fan speed or temperature where you want it while driving.
• Right about the roominess which I like. The fit & finish is, I'd say, just average, plain vanilla. I bought it in Minneapolis & drove it home to Rapid City and man, that driver's seat got pretty hard after a while.
• Gas mileage not great - the Tiguan is like a giant bread box on wheels, not especially aerodynamic, so that's to be expected.
• Regarding your comparison to a Golf: I have owned 3 golfs: a '78 Rabbit, an '84 Rabbit GTI and a 2011 Golf TDI. I thoroughly loved them all. The Tiguan IS NO GOLF!! Not by a long shot. It handles ok for a giant bread box, but I take exception to any notion that it handles like a big Golf.
• And the Drive Train is an utter failure: I do a fair amount of city driving in Rapid & the Tiguan is miserable on the accelerator & on the way the frikkin tranny shifts. It's jerky but never quite the same. I do not have any confidence in how the car will start from a stop sign or how the acceleration will go when changing lanes or other basic city driving maneuvers. I've tried every combination of drive modes... normal, ECO, Sport, Sport from pulling the shifter back. I turn off the engine start/stop button. It's very unsettling when the engine, like, stutters as I start and then lurches a second later, especially when I'm at a stop sign and, say, turning right. So I'm very exasperated by that.
I liked the idea of the Tiguan but, unless the shop can remedy that drive train farce, it's not a car that I will keep.
This is VW’s best car now and like the GTI, they seem hell bent on ruining the steering wheel controls. These Tiguans are awesome to drive and especially nice for long trips. RAV4 is gruff as you state but feels more durable and something you don’t mind getting dirty. But the RAV4 actually handles as well believe it or not and is just as fast. The CX5 is Mazda’s cash cow for a reason and it amazes me how good it is still despite being the oldest of the three. For piece of mind though it’s hard not to love the naturally aspirated drive trains of the Mazda and Toyota. Funny that the Aisin 8 speed is shared by the RAV4 and Tiguan.
Volkswagen products are dope asf prior to contrary belief. And this Tiguan is no exception. Comfortable and good driving SUVs.
But a lot of very cheap materials and low cost saving bit that show.
@@krane15that can be said about many other manufactures at this price points too. Only difference is where they cut cost and where do you prefer the cost cutting has been applied to.
I don't think I've ever seen or heard an EA888 engine perform so milquetoast. The mild tuning combined with the curb weight of the Tiguan really neuters a normally great engine. Though given the the segment it competes in it's probably class leading in terms of refinement and usable torque so I wouldn't say it is lacking. But I'll be 'that guy' and say it needs an APR tune to make it acceptable; 245 hp, 290 lb/ft on 93 vs. 184 hp, 221 lb/ft on stock 87 tune. On an E85 tune its 265 hp/311 lb/ft. These figures go to show how much power VW left on the table for the Tiguan (APR stage 1[91-93 octane] is quite safe and reliable but likely warrantee busting).
Bro it's a Tiguan
Nobody that buys this vehicle needs more power so badly that they are willing to void a new car's warranty to get it.
Lol… exactly what i was thinking. Super underpowered. They were laughing at the 4runner being dinosaur slow… this is the same thing in different package
They may as well have kept the 1.8L around if they were gonna down tune the 2.0 so much. The 1.8L gets great mileage and still could have served as a tweener motor being just a lower stroke no exhaust VVT version of the 2.0 but then again, it's obvious it's cheaper to make one engine and tune it as you want to meet needed MPG's. That said, would it have killed them to offer a higher tune on the top trims? Prob could have made more sales that way on a higher margin product.
Down under I've got the 2020 TSI R-Line 4 Motion, and it's standard with 220 hp, 258 lb/ft. 7 speed DSG. That's plenty when you need it. Requires minimum 91 Octane here.
This video was great detail. I hope you will review audi q 3 or q5 .or audi a4 wagon.
I got a 2013 (the last gen power train) 12 way seats on both sides, max ac button, 265 tires.
Trying to seduce the crowd from the start fellas 😂
CURSE YOU AJ! I wanted to be first.
Consumer Reports (CR) just rated the Tiguan one of the worst reliable SUVs for sale today, however, there's a clear disconnect with CRs survey results and all the positive owner comments/feedback below. Interesting. Nice review!
If it weren't for ever changing CAFE requirements and the necessity for companies to keep chasing those MPG's, most of the vehicles in this segment would be sporting the 250 HP and 300 pound feet of torque that they really need.
In Europe, this model is the 3 row, long wheelbase Tiguan, which is equal in size to the Škoda Kodiaq with whom it shares a platform. The standard Tiguan, which is way more popular, is the same size with the CX-5 and just slightly shorter than the RAV4.
The NA Tiguane is still 6inch longer then the CX5 and simply feel way bigger. Europe have a shorter version ?
@@dilididli2274 Yes, that's the standard Tiguan, the bigger one is called Tiguan Allspace. You can check both of them on some VW euro website, for example the U.K. site. I would have linked it, but for some reason CZcams does not allow it, and deletes the comment. There is also the Škoda Kodiaq and the SEAT Tarraco. They are built on the same platform, and are the same size as the N.A Tiguan/Allspace.
@@dilididli2274 With a 300 hp Tiguan R.
@@Ce0ammer Yeah, so sad we can't have it in north america.
A stage 1 APR tune will do a lot to help this car in merging situations. 245 hp and 290 tq will make a noticeable difference over stock. I also noticed after doing a stage 1 tune to my EA888 engine that my MPG average increase by 2.
Where did you do that? :) how much does it cost? Asking for a friend 😊
Just bought one love it so far. For the sound system it's actually really good I disagree with what he said about it, it wasnt an accurate assessment. From a music producer perspective they did a great job fine tuning the sound system to fit the acoustics of the vehicle very nicely, it sounds very pleasant.
Cross shopping this with CX5, CX9, Atlas, among others (not all the same size / price I know). Coming from a QX60 which just feels massive and numb to drive (has actual been a pretty good car other than driving feel and out of date tech, best seats ever and tons of space). Our other car is a GTI, really like the 1-2 punch of that and a crossover despite all the hate they get.
Tiguan is really compelling, although the CX5 Carbon looks damn good with those seats.
I just got a 22 CX5 Carbon with the red leather. Everybody who gets in it says "Holy shit this thing is beautiful". It really is put together like a Swiss watch. And it does ride firmly, but super body control at all times, drives like a good sports sedan. Loving it.
Pretty soon you'll need something like this to do a lap at pbir
Surprised you guys liked it so much ! Says a lot
Carmakers almost always get it right by the time its on its last years.
I can only giggle with the sexy music for a family hauler lol
2019 GTI owner, and on my 2nd water pump replacement. Though I'm told the first replacement was a dud and leaked since the day it was installed.
The engine is the big plus over the competition.