Spraying Clear Coat In The Garage
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I have the fan filtered air on the input side to my garage setup, that way the room gets pressurized with clean air. On the exhaust side I install a plywood panel in the garage door which has filters for the exhaust. Your videos have been a great help to my painting.
You have really nice neighbors. My neighbors stay at home all the time and constantly complain and file complaints about noise and smells. If I turn on a quiet compressor for just five minutes, it becomes a big deal because their little dogs get scared.
That must be so annoying.
Helps us all who spray in the Garage Gunmen yes indeed,as they say whats in the base coat just clear later and polish out very much so.
These are the kind of the videos I love watching even after I just finished a spot repair on my own bmw. I could not get it the first time, actually I put the bondo, sanded, put the primer and sanded, then base coat, but when I applied the clear coat, I had a few drips, so idk why I didn't wait for it to fully dry, saw some shitty video with a razor blade and made it worse. But still didn't give up sanded it all down put also bondo in those areas I damaged with razor blade, and painted base & clear coat on top. Turned out really nice. But these kind of videos show me that it is possible to get great results when spraying in a garage as mine. Keep it up brother!
I'm happy to see you painting out of your garage. For us weekend warriors, this is more relatable. I always love your work and the way you approach jobs. In the end, working out of your garage is just gonna make you a better painter. Good ventilation is the most difficult thing to achieve in a garage setting. The other thing is keeping the crap out of the paint as best as you can. In my experience, keeping the crap out of the paint is the hardest part. We're trying to keep dust out of the paint in the same space that we're creating body shop dust. It's a conundrum.
😂”I can’t see shit”..just shot my car in my garage this Memorial Day and boy I hear ya..I fogged that garage with so much overspray the 5 box fans couldn’t keep up..awesome video man!..I’m liking these garage videos..you can still get awesome results in a garage..
For filter use carbon pellets. Make box with hvac tin. Use door screen material to retain pellets. Replace pellets when saturated. Buy pellets in bulk.
Hey man this is a tonne of effort we are seeing and I just wanted to get in here and tell ya that we appreciate this step by step walk through style. I’m getting confident as a result 👍
Awesome mate. Glad they're helpful
Nice job gunny! Another tip I used from the man him self is to get a bucket of hot water to sit your clear mix cup in as you mix it up. Adds warmth to the paint and also a nice thin consistency. Helps a lot when painting in cold conditions ie at home or un heated booths. Cheers. (Ballarat VIC)
I know you have an exhaust fan, but do you have a fresh air intake source? If you don’t, you should consider figuring out a way to allow air to flow in (filtered of course) This will drastically cut down the amount of dust in the paint work. Without an intake source, your exhaust fan will pull air in from every crack and crevice in your garage and that’s where the dust comes from. You can find 20x20 filter grids and fit the with 20x20 sticky intake filters.
Great series. I'm learning so much, thanks for doing it. really looking forward to seeing more of your working at home stuff.
The biggest difference between a booth and a garage for me when using 2k is the amount of extraction a booth can handle compared to a garage, even with decent size extractors. I personally find I have to lower the pressure and use a bigger setup than usual to help cut down the sheer amount of overspray fog. You will need more extraction than those 300mm industrial fans can handle with a filter over them. I use a 600mm industrial fan & it’s perfect for a single garage setup.
looking good be interested in seeing the cutting back and buffing we spray at home but in a 30 x 30 shed still get dust specks no matter how clean we get it also we use a extractor fan similar to yours
but we put a elbow on it with a box we built to take the proper spray booth filter
works great gets rid of that fogging faster
we put a vent shutter on the outside to keep bugs and wind out when not using it
I found out getting 4 pieces of carpet unroll vacuum light mist water then spray. The results is immaculate
If you dont have much experience applying ceramic coatings, my best advice is just be extremely thorough. Take it panel by panel so you dont get overwhelmed and just watch it set up and cure into that rainbow. Get multiple super soft towels too, l recommend one per two panels. They can get loaded up with the coating quickly and make levelling it very difficult. Most important steps are cleaning with isopropyl alcohol before you apply the coating and double checking for any ‘rainbows’ (cured bits of coating) that you may have missed. If you fail to level any amount of coating it will cure and be stuck on the paint until you go back and re wet sand and polish to remove it
Morning Gunny,
Doing my usual Saturday morning and going through my CZcams channels, love your videos and thought I’d give you some feedback on your garage set and what I’ve found that works with mine.
I use 3 CanFan IsoMax silent fans. They each move 3,260m3/hr, sit in a large box I built and has a large filter surface area. But! they sit on the floor a draw the air down at one end of the shed, with the intake filters at the other ends roof. New they’re expensive, but hunting marketplace will see a few a lot cheaper and usually ex-drug house set ups lol.
Drawing the air, and overspray down will clear the room quicker. I tried to extract the same way as you do currently, drawing it up and out, but overspray is too heavy to clear the room without a 3 phase power fan. That and most of the dirt in your paint is more than likely not “dirt” and overspray clear that has tried to be lifted by the air flow up, accumulated together, got heavy and fallen on to the paint. Hence why all the dirt is underneath the fan. This happened to me before I switched up the air flow.
I know it’s going to be hard at a house you’re renting to modify the garage, but essentially making a down draft style booth with leave your jobs cleaner.
Looks amazing and after a cut and buff it’ll look like a show car… I tagged you on my IG yesterday after flow coating a hood and trunk lip in green - I’ve learned a lot from you! Thank for you all the videos!!
Sweet job as usual man! Good to see some home jobs, showing people it can be done!
I've only ever painted at home and as for fan wise I made a water extraction system that works amazing!
It's jus a plastic 200lt drum, with a water pump inside that runs 3 rings of misters and water running down the sides with a big exhaust fan on top ( similar to yours ) that sucks it out via ducting into the "booth". Have paint filters on ducting in room and another on top of fan and 2 fans blowing in via ducting connected to charcol filters to stop dust coing in. I have a decent sized shed so I have a cheap temp plastic carport inside it and have hardly any overspray coming out the fan. And in summer I spin the fan around to blow out and chuck a big chunk of ice in it and use it as a air con for when im working out there haha
Cost me next to nothing. Something to look into.
Looks good, man!
Just building my house and garage (in the states). Real excited to get set up for some DIY spraying. Fairly roomy garage and I should be able to get some great air flow through it.
Gunny. This is Awesome as this is going to apply to most viewers that will be painting at home and not in a fancy booth.
Gunny, I see your exhaust ducting/fan but do you have an intake source? Need fresh air to get some air flow. Seeing that cloud reminds me why I won't spray a side job in a garage
I saw your video on the headlight restoration and now with the clear coat on, they look like new.
I use the dynabreeze 200mm fan & ducting from bunnings it does a good job of evacuating the over spray but a larger diameter would be better I use a filter box also to absorb the odour
Best to have one fan pulling air into the garage (through a filter box) and then another pushing it out. Much better airflow and fewer particles being sucked into the area through gaps in the roof area etc.
keen to see the compressor review!
Hey mate, nice work as usual, i found i doubled up those fans, one each side and it dramatically increased the air flow which removed that clear coat overspray much faster. Also i found the filters if they are too tight will restrict the air flow way to much. cheers
Can’t wait to see your compressor review video. Looks impressive for a garage job
You can Swap your spray gun set up for turbine like fuji q5, almost no over spray with .8 tip , and make a colum box of a ac furnance carbon activate filters. That wilp help your garage paint visibility.
Cool. Definitely would be interested in what ever set up you come up with to remove the gas from your exhaust air. It is very clear that you are going to need to run 3 of those fans to keep the overspray down. You could also build a frame from 2x4 lumber with the inside height of a Normal house type box fan. Cover one side with the filter material like you used and open your garage door half a meter or what ever the height is. Set box with fans in it. Close the door ontop of the frame and pull the paint overspray out with that and use 2 fans like you have set up now to bring fresh air into the garage as a positive pressure type system. As part of your home paint pricing you would have to include the cost of that black filter material because you may only get a single use out of it.
Awesome outcome 👍🏼! .... considering painting in a garage at home,👌🏽.
Nice work mate! I’ll be launching my own ceramic coating in the next few months, and would love to send you some to try as a thanks for all the vids over the years. I’ve learned a lot from your videos.
That looks really nice Gunny forget the nibs and look at that finish it's really flat and glassy it just goes to show that you can get a good finish doing these jobs at home but you do need something that a lot of us home painters haven't got (me included) and that is the skill to know how to do it right 😁🙄
One thing I've done in my little booth is to use a patio or outdoor carpet on the floor it's easy to look after it just needs a hoover each time before you start painting and you can wash it as well if you have the right hoover, I'm convinced it's reduced the amount of nibs in my finish, there are quite a few body shops here that use it in their full size booths, maybe something to consider mate 🤔🙏👍 John UK.
Looks good, definitely interested in how you're going to set up a better extraction fan
This is very interesting. I'm getting ready to spray my van at home. It's a large surface area so I might try to do each side separately and include the back or front with each side.
Nice work.
You can get a LVLP spray gun.
A lot less over spray, like a R500.
Nice paints🤙
This is awesome showing the art of the possible in the home garage, respect Gunny!
Hi I’ve responded but can’t see the message Gunny
24-inch barn fan is what I USE. little to no overspray It exhausts quickly what you got is nasty. Exhausting into a barrel of water the solids will get caught by the water.
make air supply and not exhaust through filters and there will be no rubbish there must be more air entering through the filters.The T110 air cap is immortal
Looks awesome like you said a little cut and polish is all it needs next time start in the back and work towards the fan it really helps a lot I also us a vacuum after sanding and mop the floor before paint
I'm new to your channel. Watching a professional work who genuinely enjoys the work makes all the difference. I appreciate your attention to detail and explanations as you go. Cheers mate👍
Welcome aboard, thanks for watching mate 👊
For my extractor (car radiator fan mounted near the ceiling) I run a 30cm diameter pipe down to floor level. So its pulling the dust/spray etc downwards before it pulls it out of the building. My thinking is by pulling the air at floor level I'm working with gravity. Pulling the air out directly at head height I think it would keeping the dust and spray suspended in the air and dragged over my piece.
Looks good and shiny. Cant wait for the cut and buff. Hope to see which polishing machine ure using for it and mirror finish
I always wondered if you can duct the exhaust fumes into a water butt, to see if the water would catch the fumes and overspray. You definitely need to get fresh air in.
Keep up the good work looks really good.
This is great for me as amateur. Thank you
Looks nice for garage black paint job👍
Why don't you fabricate a frame with electric fans to be placed under the garage roll up door as fresh air intake or exhaust with filters attached to the fans.
The existing fan you have can be the fresh air inlet?
I have a 20'x20' metal building with garage roll up door, built a 3 electric fan frame and placed it under the roll-up door to exhaust fumes.
They worked great for me. The 2 windows were fully opened with A/C filter on the outside to supply fresh intake of air and to keep bugs and larger particles of dust out.
Painted my bike with fine metallic silver, intercoat clear with pearl, Hawaii'n blue candy and 4 coats of M.S. 2K clear.
Very little dust nibs, no bugs, although room were filled with over spray and dust everywhere, except on bike parts.
I use old pleated ac filters in front of box fans to exhaust the garage air. I place them in the 2 windows of the garage.The charcoal filter is a good idea. I'll try that by putting it behind the pleated filter next time. If that reduces the air flow to much I'll try it on the exhaust side of the fans.
Wow great job there Gunny. Mine turned out really well but gassed up the garage really bad just like yours.
Use furnace filters to catch the shit, the hood has some major chunks, extra-fine sponge backed and knock the nibs off then tack your base and respray the base
hey gunman! watching your videos for years thankyou, curious about clearing the headlight lenses 😀
Love to see a vid on the filter setup when it’s built.
Haha, welcome to my world, I worked out small parts at a time.
You could of broken that up into 3 separate clear sprays. That's if you want less overspray. But then you got to do more masking and plastic sheeting work.
But man so glad to see you giving us some in depth home jobs
Excellent.
And for ventilation, I sprayed on a South wind so just after laying clear I'd wet down outside and lift the roller door up half a foot then open the opposite door and big plumes of over spray drifted out and was clear within a few minutes..
Probably not law abiding but hey it worked.
And I live in low density rural area so didn't effect anyone.
As you said you work with what you got😁
I sprayed clear this weekend with the bellaria in my home garage. Talk about overspray. Lol
woo whoo ganna check this set up from fog ta filta ta polish Compressor, I've been in a garage sprayed up & Dazed lot a fun.
Nice job man! Love these kinds of videos for us DIY enthusiasts... dumb question about splitting the job up... assuming I get all the colour mixed at once, is there any risk of variations if I split the job up? Because I like the idea of tackling smaller jobs to complete a full respray.
As long as you spray it the same it should be fine. I was thinking of doing the same myself
That turned out really nice for a garage job.
You'll want a filtered fresh air inlet setup equal to, or slightly larger in diameter that your exhaust fan (think CFM).
Otherwise, you can create a slight vacuum situation and the overspray then has no way to get drawn out.
It's gonna be awesome when you get everything dialed in there.
Diggin' the videos 🤙
Always great to watch Gunman.
Am i able to ask what compressor you're using as I'm in a similar place but the noise is getting to me after several years now
Should have got the quartz liquid glass on there Gunny. I use a blow fan at one end that way you can still see what you're doing a bit better.
I would love it if you did some weekend work, would happily get a bumper painted just to have something in a video!
big thing I find about spaying at home as u know is lights you can never have enough of them
Looking good, looking forward to the compressor review, can you do a video about air caps, you say you are using a low air consumption air cap, do these different air caps affect what paint you spray,
Hey gunman, always interested in how many coats of PRIMER, COLOUR and CLEAR you put down.
Also how long did you wait between painting clear after the last coat of colour?
Usual rule of thumb for primer is enough coats to get full coverage, then two more. For colour, it's enough coats until it looks the same colour under bright lights, then one more. For clear it's 2 coats if you're using 2K. If it's acrylic (which I wouldn't reccommend) then you'll want like 6-8 coats, just because you're gonna need to polish it every 6 months for it to stay glossy
Welcome to our world gunny!
I've sprayed alot in garage low ceiling is definitely a problem without more air movement it rolls of the ceiling then right back down
Class gunny 👍
Ducted aircon in the Home could you use there filters for the exhaust fan for the garage Gunmen at all.
Weekend Work would be a bonus esp since it's in your garage
Quick question unsure what to ask
Have currently got a fg falcon in dark blue metallic color
Have you had much luck with just respraying a bonnet and having it match ?
Am tempted to get the paint matched via the paint on car , also what video would you suggest me to watch of yours as I'm unsure how I go about the orientation of flakes etc😂
Thanks in advance your videos have helped me so much
Have you seen those inflatable spray Booths. not sure what to think of them. Come with a exhaust and a filter
"The Fug" when spraying clear in a non-booth situation gets Dull. Using a LVLP gun helps, as does having a 30" extractor fan as a minimum - but the main thing is to not go skimpy on the respirator front - 3M or Norton seem best - because with 2-pack clear, you can die quite fast if the respirator is crap - in the "dead" fashion as opposed to the vaguely cool "Ohh, I was dying!" manner. You can be coughing up blood that evening quite easily if you goof on the "breathing" front...
Bro buy a little chinese diesel heater and 1 oil heater and you will have good heat to paint with.
Where can you get the adapter for pouring out the clear and hardener you used in the first scene?
Beautiful work! I was wondering where your exhaust vents go? Out the roof?
I'll be doing a video on the system soon.
Do you think the paint vapors would ever get thick enough for your exhaust fan to ignite when you're painting in your garage?
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Hey mate, have you done or considered doing a review on the guns from supercheap auto? the Blackridge LVMP pro? would love to know what you think of them as a gun for the home DIYer
Careful gunny the omni clear is very bad and lasts only 1-2 years before peeling. We had a lot of bad luck with that clear. I use finish1 fc720 clear which is cheap but I have a test panel sitting in sun for 4 years now and not a single issue yet. Been using that for 5 years. As always keep up the good work! Me nor my bodyguy who got me into painting will ever use nen it again. He used to use it alot and always an issue.
Ok thanks, I'll stop using it after this kit
Good job would you ever consider spraying outside after watching your videos I tried painting my scania truck bumper it turned out okay but ended up with a few runs I didn’t leave enough time between coats
Was Fearful of clear coat going of in gun
Should last an hour at least in a gun mate if it’s not hot as outside.
Where did u purchase that extractor fan ??
Boss G
What size compressor did you buy
That looked like Omni clear is old dbu clear I've been told
isnt it dangerous if some spark ended up in that room?
btw i did this in a party tent with a massive sail over it xD..but i didnt had the amount of dust etc when i painted my roof..so i am quite confident and probably lucky about my moment wich i have learned from you lol.
keep it up
I've got a question about clear coating headlights, ive done it before and it always seems to crack and split on me, ive followed what you usually suggest to do but it always seems to do it on me, i wouldn't think 2002 headlights would be the cause, im wondering if it's the type of clear or im just doing something wrong, i sand it with 400 up to 800 and a wet sand of 1000 and wipe it down with prepsol and spray and it immediately starts to split, i was using 2k baslac clear coat 2:1 aswell with 10% thinners, i don't know what i was doing wrong anyway
Do you use plastic primer? I've had the same issue when not using it
Awesome video man, thank you.
Did you sand the headlights and gave them clear too or am I imagining things?
That's exactly what I did
@@TheGunmanChannel love it! What grit on the headlights did you go for?
Your videos are such an inspiration. After 2 months hiatus just sanded my old boot ready for action!
@@nikchristides4895 I actually did a video on it, check my recent videos. But 500,800, dry, then 1,200 wet
@@TheGunmanChannel how did I miss that?! Thank you , will do!
Are you concerned with the potential for an explosion from an electric spark or something from those fans? I was researching fans for use at home and apparently you should be looking at what are called "intrinsically safe" fans which are typically belt driven with the motor sealed away and unable to make contact with the room air. They're a bit pricey though.
Failing that, I'd opt for an inlet fan pressurizing the room with no outlet fan to avoid that risk.
Looking to buy a spray gun to spray for home. Have the Chicago hush 70l air compressor would a lvlp spray gun be ok for metallic base coat and clear coat. What tip is best. 1.3m or 1.4m?
Iwata - devilbiss up to $650. Thanks
Yes, it should, if it has the 3 motors like mine it should have no issues with the T110 1.3 on the pro lite. That's what I used in this video
Or you need a box style before the fan.. increase the surface area that can be sucked
I've actually already done that. Yet to use it but I'll be keeping you all updated as I progress
try mobile spray booth filter box, truflow
What’s the brand and the model of the compressor you used? Sorry might have said it in the video but I missed it
It's the Chicago air hush 100. I just uploaded a review on it, check my recent vids
What mask do you use when painting in the shed ? Active charcoal?
Yes. And now I'm using a face mask too spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product/moldex-series-9000-full-face-mask/
Watch you're health gunny.A lot of fumes on the go🚗
Cuteeeeee
In fairness autothane is not the best clear but it’s far from the worst 😊
🤣👍I know that feeling can't see sh#t
Gave you a mention in my devilbiss SLG VIDEO 👍
Respect from Russia
Another huge mistake your exhaust should suck from the floor. I worked at a place with 4 intakes sucking from the floor no doors and the paint jobs were not half bad. And I set up my shop the same way
Which compressor?
Review coming soon
Should have filtered yer clear. Great job though!
Looks bad man
bloody hell should of just painted it out side in the elements prob would of been cleaner
Turns out I'ma better polisher than painter.....lol
Ha I was first. Take that algorithm