KICKER Warhorse 10,000 watt Amplifier Unboxing and Overview
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The KICKER Warhorse WX10000.1D was touted as the "most powerful single channel amplifier" in 2008. This amp was part of KICKER's return to SPL competitions. Unfortunately 2008 was a period of economic difficulties in the US and this amp at it's $9999 MSRP was difficult for most to consume.
Note: this is an unboxing and quick overview video on my 2nd channel, Wheelie Williston. I have plans for another video going into more details on the design and trying it with the L7R Quad Box. What say you?
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Glad it made it there safe man and u are actually getting some use out of that beast
Didnt connect to the dyno..wait this is a different channel🤣is this channel to myth bust amps and subs...well got to sub now
Send it back to kicker and have them rebuild it!
Do you have the cab1600
1 that you tested?
Which is bigger the warhorse or that huge Old School JBL crown amp you made a video on?
$10k amp on a $10 table ftw! And I think X-Bndwd is crossover bandwidth, I am stoked for you Dereck, the warhorse is one of the most iconic bad ass amps kicker ever made, you own a piece of history! Even if its dirty power.. I've heard they don't sound good n like you said are mainly for burps but still,, the static seems excessive... And bro. For real thanks for sharing
my card table needs to be replaced
Ur correct that light means u have the low pass setting set lower than the highpass setting.
Yeah I worked for a kicker distributor back and the day and we sold those amps for $8k retail and cost was only $800 😂
@@BigWill3855 that is straight bannanas, talk about profit good grief
@@kswis yeah to be fair we were the largest kicker distributor in southeast and we rarely sold car audio retail. We mostly did wholesale and sold these by the pallet for $1k ea.
That little crackle at idle is like the rough idle of a top fuel dragster. 👌
Or residual radiation left over from its design picked up on a Geiger counter.
It's just begging you to floor it!
Crackling is just the warhorse being the warhorse... Both ones I've worked on have done this to some extent
Hi Sam I remember you chatting about these amps. It runs one voice coil on the positve swing and the other on the negetive swing with individual channels. Kinda sudo class B opperation. Am I remebering right?
Edit: I see derick linked your tutorial on how it works. Will go refresh the memory.
@jahmoy Berry what type of voice coil does the sub have? Dual 2 or 4?
@jahmoy Berry Dual 2ohm Wire Pos to Pos, dual 4ohm .5 is not possible
@@Jamez84 with dual 2 ohm it isnt possible either, just 1 or 4 ohms... if he has 2 2ohm dvc subs it'll go to .5
@@TheZombieSlayer1155 Sorry I'm thinking 2 subs. My bad.
Great opening, I had no idea of the scale at first.
It’s *MASSIVE* !
I think somewhere in there you're probably rocking a dry cap. Are you going to dive in to it or have it serviced? I'd LOVE to see a service video on this beast!
Wouldn't you expect an oscillation rather than a crackling/interference with a spent cap? I'm just learning.
I think it's a dirty pot, that would be the most logical move, just to see
I was just at a bass comp the other day and actually seen one of these bad boys. He had it in an Escalade with 2 kick L7 15s. It's crazy that Its crazy to see it in real life and on here.
No crackle at the meet
Complete overkill for the subs. That poor amp only pushing about 30% of its output. What a waste.
Love that gorgeous amp. To me a powerful amp should be big and heavy. I see those tiny Brazilian amps and still can't believe they could be so powerful and sound good.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Ya I guess I’m old school too. I like when an amp has substantial weight. 😂
For a daily driver, a heavy amplifier is a no for me. I’m glad those lightweight “Brazilian” amplifiers exist.
Glad it made it ok can't wait to see it on the Quad box!
Always wanted 1 had a few chances, but heard from other car audio gurus that these amps are pretty noisy. Kicker makes great amps so I've been on the teeter totter on this one from hearing from others with 1st hand experience. Still I'm sure an amazing piece to have either way. Plus can't wait to see it run to that quad box
Thank you for cleaning the foam off. It was really painful for my OCD 😂
Imagine an amplifier that big with a 10 watt chip and _empty_ inside. *Got Em!*
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Super strong card table with a crease right down the middle. Lol. I love the videos, I don’t have the money to build any systems anymore. But your videos eases the cravings for hooking one up.
@KICKER FTW a very nice work of art thank you Wheelie
We installed one in our bass vehicle back when it came out. On 2 18" solo X. That thing was ridiculous!
I'm not much of a purpose built "burp" amp or subwoofer guy as I like music but this amp is a incredible piece of work and can't wait to see it powering that Kicker QuadBox and others But my guy Big D never ceases to amaze me with yet another A-1 video 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽💯 #⚡WARHORSE⚡
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Time to get in contact with Kip @ Kicker & see if they can take a look at it for you..
I've been talking with them, we shall see
The crackling sound is normal internal noise, when the music is turned up it will drown the noise. 10000 watt amp will not sound good at 30 watt. this amp was designed to play music with Kicker 18 inch Solo-X. I love the WX10K, I worked with the 2 gentlemen who designed and created the Warhorse. Only 300 or so were built.
Tbe sound u hear i believe is comming from the toroids wich is 100 percent normal my alpine 3545 does same thing. U hear the toroids making sound to the beat of the music its normal big d.
Big d tbe xbndw is a a notification that u have set the low pass crossover lower than tbe hipass crossover i have quite a extensive knowledge about these specific amps as i have had 3 in my lifetime.
Surprised nobody ever tried running a pair of Warhorses with each paired to the same coils but phase reversed on one amp to create a full-time push/pull. Would require some pretty mean diodes and possibly some other stuff to keep back-emf and output from one amp feeding back to the other, but I think it could have solved the "poor" audio quality issue. EDIT - any way to tell what number your amp is? Should check mine..
@@NVMDSTEvil that's it I just made that comment kind of I didn't word it as well as you but yeah I've had it on amps that wasn't nowhere near that big. I had that with power wires for big class d
@Aziz Masri Thank you for replying Aziz, do you still service these amps for Kicker? The Warhorse is the most impressive amplifier I have worked on to date. The inherent ticking/crackling sound at very low volume is easy to get rid of with a passive 4th order crossover. I built a couple for a good friend who has the Warhorse running two 18" Solo-X subs and the noise was eliminated.
The KICKER Warhorse WX10000.1 is a beast of an amp. It needs eight 800-cold-cranking-ampere 12-volt batteries, two 200-ampere alternators, a 250 ampere fuse for each alternator within 18" (45cm) of each alternator and a second 250 ampere fuse within 18" (45cm) of the battery network. All power and ground wires need to be as short as possible and utilize 1/0 gauge wire.
The Warhorse amplifier can only drive extremely high-power-rated, dual-voice coil speakers and needs 8 Gauge Speaker Wire.
Since the output current to the subwoofers can reach 90 amperes, the connectors must be extremely rugged. The Warhorse has Anderson connectors because they have been proven to hold up under demanding high current applications (such as industrial fork lifts). They are also ideal due to the fully enclosed design which helps eliminate the chance for electrocution. The output current is monitored by surface mount resistors that are referenced to ground and calibrated for 90 amps RMS. When that level is reached the DSP controller shuts the amplifier down in microseconds to prevent damage to any components.
It must be really fun to crank this baby up!
Kicker had potential with this one. Probably it's first foray into building such a big amp. I hope Kicker engineers have learned more since then.
From what I heard it was literally a “can we?” Project. Was not a big success, but you’ve got to takes the losses and learn from them
Thanks for getting this!!! Waiting for this one!
More to come, this was only the tease
Sometimes you can isolate noises like that with freeze spray. The noise will temporarily disappear when semiconductor junctions that are failing are momentarily chilled. Check those op amps and transistors on the preamp board, otherwise a capacitor in the audio path.
The speaker crackle is normal for these amps. They all did it. It's how the amp was built and feed signal to the output that causes this audible noise.
I remember when this amp came out. I was 17yrs old an working at BK. Once I saw the price I knew I wasn’t gonna be able to afford 😂
Lol I thought it would end a happy story😂
7:37 my god at the amount of electrolytic capacitors in it. Recapping this unit with high quality caps and checking it over really good for bad solder joints should bring it back to life without the crackling.
and remove trafos
Sure. Just budget three or four months of bench time....
The crackling sound I think could come from the Planar Transformers if not a dry filter cap as they are VERY prone to EMF interference. To test is easy enough by shielding them with tinfoil or something or possibly even just stand the amp up so the transformers are at a 90degree angle from the source of the EMF or rather a 90-degree angle from where they were when the noise was heard. If no change in static then not them but if you hear changes then they could be the issue as they are acting as an antenna as they don't seem to be shielded in any way.
The crackle was from his rca crossed over his number one voice coil and that's the static you were hearing
I'm guessing you're waiting to sort out the cracking noise before this goes to the Dyno?
Seems like a transformer problem, but that's just a gut feeling.
I wonder how this compares to the Hifonics XX-Maxximus 10k (double stacked XX-Goliath)
No offense bro hifonic are flea market amps .so they consider as a low budget amp .kicker are name brand .
@@bellaphone5719 Hifonics and Kicker both are junk now
When u gonna put it on the dyno
Lol I wouldn’t of trusted that card table to put my drink on lol J/K love the videos
Boss mode card table. Known to hold $10k amps and mo 😜
Wow great video sir really appreciate it 👍 👍
Wow that’s some of kicker best work rite here ty kicker
What an absolute 💯 % BEAST OF andAMPLIFIER .
10,000 watts of bump!! Baby!!
QuadBox killa?
Sweet baby Jesus! She’s Yuge. Don’t give it no static either…
It's a beautiful piece of equipment, for sure.
Kickers are very well built. The static sound I feel is going to be an easy fix. I'd call kicker customer service and see what they say. Maybe they could send you new part that's causing the problem. You could send it in for kicker to fix it. That's an awesome amp man!!!!
Love your work big d. Let's see the numbers on that beast
This one can’t be tested with my equipment due to the design
I’ve heard that crackly sound is from the power side they say to run a capacitor to clean it out
You need to make a Plexi Top for that amp to show off that inside goodness
I saw someone with one and yeah that’s dope. A little LED lighting behind the plexi and yeah boi! Awesome wall art!
mine had a lexan top when i had it in my suburban
Didn't know about this channel, BigD! Subbed.
New in box..... If even close...... Whaaaaat, welcome to Thanksgiving. 😍🎉 Talk about a no frills BEAST.
Are you the Cure singer? Love your songs!!!
Ye its a cool way to make a sign wave on the amp. Half or (voice coil 1) goes down and the other side (voice coil 2) goes up. The amp does not make a sign wave proper on each side it just does half of the sign wave for coil one and the other half on coil 2. SO as it switches back and forth you can hear the amp doing the switching that is the sound you hear.
Cool KICKER goodness
I miss the days of huge windshield banners that would just be the name brand and it looked menacing back in the day
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You should probably get the amp checked on the audio input side.
450v capacitors holy crap!
So tbe crackling is coming from the sub or the amp? Ive never heard that crackling from the sub only heard the choke inside makes a noise as the bass hits
Waiting for the dyno of this one. The most I’ve seen one produce was a bit over 8k. There was some excuse why it measured low.
The warhorse can't really be dyno'd. One of the terminals handles all of the negative, and one of the terminals handles all of the positive. So you can't get any kind of distortion reading from it
@@blakebrockhaus347 amen IESVS CHRIST.
Sound like a 1 channel amp ,so why not
More excuses
@@derrickandrews6407 because it isn't a monoblock amplifier. Barevids made an excellent video describing how the warhorse works. And it is the only amplifier to have ever used that design topology.
It is effectively 2 half amps that you have to manually strap together. Each channel only produces half of the sine wave. Anything that measures ac voltage can't measure it properly, because it's expecting a full sine wave not half of one.
Ran a Warhorse for a couple years on 2 Fi 18"s..It's a beast.🍻
Big D over at W.A.L. could have carried that amp with just his fingers gripping it.
I always wanted one of those until I saw how complex the wiring had to be vs a regular class D amplifier.
when i had mine on the 18s, it took 3 weeks to get a wiring diagram back from kicker bc i had d1s, that was a b---h to wire with d1's
Back in the day, class AB amps were the regular amps and class D amps didn't even exist.
Just looked this 1 up, and low and behold there is 1 for sale in my country
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@@wal2 Fella is asking 1100 dollars for it..
The holy grail of amplifiers! Nice!
The size of it still amazes me. Nice find
Thats what she said
@@resetcoder 😂
I've got 4 sound stream 3000.1 they are strapped and two of them do the exact thing
I have 4 of them brand new in box. Never used. I need to do a build soon. I’m collecting so much stuff. I have Zapco amps, crunch amps, mb quartz, bunch of Rockford amps. My collection is ridiculous. I power them up every couple of months to keep them going. I have a Clarion 925vd and a 935 brand new and forgot about them. I need vehicles 🤣
Wow 4 of them? Holy moly 😲
@@wal2 got a sick deal like 10 years ago
I have one on 2 solo x 18's and it also makes that noise but it sounds great when you turn it up! Hits the highs, lows and everything in-between. People talking about sound quality really!? Everything is literally shaking to death around you lol whatever
I've seen your videos what a beast your car is!
@@freeair7292 thank you sir. Sadly i blew those subs at 712 boom . Looking to have them rebuilt by next spring
@@billrossow4242 awesome, i will subscribe so I won't miss it 👍
Had one about 6 years ago on a re xxx 18 underhung model that was some good sound, monster of an Amp for sure
You should twist supply cable and speaker cable respectively to minimize parasitic inductance.
Very correct my friend
Please tell me it was not shipped like that?
That is AWESOME!!!!!!
I see these up for sale every once in awhile anywhere in price from 2,500 to 5,000 dollars
One of the input filters is probably bad or possibly when you blew it off a static charge??? It's puzzling for sure...
I had one on 8 l7 15s and never had that crackling noise
Interesting! I have had a few people sending me vids of their Warhorses making this same noise
Kicker needs to make a 15 inch quad box.
That would be sweet
I'd say the static is probably a grounding issue. Same shit happens in car setups. With alternator whine and static coming through the speakers, it's very common and annoying. But this amp isn't for music as you said, so it's all good imo
No grounding issues here. Amp’s unique design at work
My word ! Its huge !!!
Idiot me I actually had a chance to get my hands on a warhorse and Believe it are not the guy that was selling the amplifier only wanted a 1000 bucks for the amplifier because he changed his entire setup to DC audio I chicken out for the simple fact it takes power to make power if that makes sense i would've had to change my entire electrical system for the warhorse and to be honest I wasn't ready go all out with the up grades but other than that I love the beast of a amplifier the guts are beautiful once again big d you given us a wonderful video as always
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@wal2 my pleasure big d
Wow what a Beast
I think it may be crossover notch distortion. There is a point at wich the speaker is not receiving any instruction from the amp to move either way wich is the reason you have to play dual coil subs, one side of the amp plays one side of the a.c waveform and the other side plays the other and on a scope if you magnify the display you can see a flat spot between the rise and fall of the signal. It's an odd design and not a very good one in my opinion as my Warhorse has a weird sound in it too. It's not a traditional design by no means as the amp gets a signal and tries to modulate the power supply to kind of come on and off following the signal so it doesn't really have an output section. I have a couple of them now as the people I got them from didn't like them and I got really good deals on them. For one amp I repaired a bunch of amps for a guy in trade for the Warhorse.
👍 Hollywood crap now that's a straight banger 💯🔥
I never had any issues with my 1000watt kicker amp.
Thats the sound of watts without with no music thsts all.Big power does it all the time.
Did you ever figure out what the crackling was? Did you ever dyno test this and see how much power output?
This amp doesn’t work with the Amp Dyno
Seen one in a display case about 4 years ago. Does seem bigger in person.
Great video be careful to much power for that sub
Now that's a bigass Amp. It even picks up noise from outer space even when it's not playing any bass?
Ha ha
Dang you need a hoist in your garage😂read that you all are thinking of having the spring meet at Kicker that would be cool im about 50 miles south of them👍
@Thomas Marshall I belive so I read it on the OSS fall meet facebook pagefacebook.com/groups/2019ossfall/?ref=share
awesome amp dude, do you recommend that JL audio W7? They have told me that their sound makes them fall in love
I love my W7 10” sub
Big d adjust the gain about 1/3 gain have ur sub playing and adjust the low pass dial all the way left to right while sub is playing see if u notice any difference in the static sound ur getting
Pinnacle of awesome
THIS IS THE SECOND GREATEST THING ANYBODY HAS SEEN ALL WEEK!!!! Behind…. Of course…… 14.4V TALK!!!! #facts
At one time sound statiom and security had one of these for sale brand new old stock for 1k bucks still had original box
Wow!!
I had that noise when I had a loose ground or was lazy assumed that the amp was grounded "good enough" when I mounted it to the body panel behind the seat of my truck. But I'm sure you know better than to make that mistake. I mean, come on, I was in high school 😂
Yeah this is not grounding issue as my grounds are connected directly to the negative battery leads
Ah. You finally got one!
Just wondering did you ever do a look at kickers 2001 kx 800w amps? I sold my old bug back in 2004ish and it had a full kicker set up I built. I got the car back and it still had the 2 kicker amps that I had put into it. It was the 800.2 and the 800.4. Of course the owner that had my car blew both amps but I've got a guy here in my town that repairs amplifiers. I want to know the ratings on the amps. I'm not ever getting rid of the amps or my 1964 bug again.... ever. Lol I got my car back after 19 years and I found it on Facebook marketplace she was I believe a few towns over from where I was at.
Not yet but always getting in different stuff to test
@@wal2 well once I get my amps fixed and working again maybe you can bench test my amps. I'd let ya do it.
With that crackle and the conflicting reports, I know the xs50 and the xs100 when you did Amp dyno test on those were extremely inefficient and I wonder if that's just electrical noise coming through Amplified because of the inefficiency. Just a thought
It might get be a power issue I remember back when I ran my NS1 Sundown amp with only 1 ground and 1 power wire it did the same thing.
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There are 3 available today. I have 3 they are over rated!! $500 each is what i have in them.
Sound like Big D was going to throw bout his back 😁
#facts
wat a beast, love it. i wouldnt mind a lil static noise.. by the way, whats the name of the song @10:48 minute
That is one beautiful amps
Yeah boi
1 lucky guy to have this in ur collection. How many total pieces do u think u have in ur collection ? Its september 22 2023 today. Im guessing 300 amps
Somewhere between 5 and 1000 😝
@@wal2 not bad at all ur gonna have to build a building just to have somewhere they can all be housed at
Definitely one of the coolest amps ever made and to own one is awesome!
That crackling sound may go away with time if its used often
I have a old kicker zx1000.1 that did the same thing and I took it right out. I bought it used about 4 years ago only had it on for a half hour. Should I hook it back up again?
@@BigMerc91CMDNJ can always try and see
Is the X-BNDW “extra bandwidth”?
That thing is huge had no idea it was 3' long
She’s a monster. One of those “this video does it no justice”
I need some help D. What amp would you recommend to push 3 Audio pipe BD4 12s. In a ported box tuned to 30-40 hrtz. Please help
Cold or cracked solder joint...?
Not my man Big D out of breath from lifting that bad boy up and gently placing on table,, at least he cleared his fingers...