Interesting, judging a motorcycle against what they’re designed to do. Perhaps that’s what we ought to do, but isn’t it the case that we often do the opposite? Have a bike that’s primarily designed for a closed track and find it’s decent on the street - well, I’m impressed. An “off road” bike behaving civilly on the street? Brilliant. A scooter designed to pop down for chips being excellent for a cross country tour? Yep. Could it be that how we really judge bikes is for how well they do the things they aren’t designed to do?
Im Loving my goldwing, its the second one since my first one in 2018 but there was a wiring loom issue and it kept every so often not starting, my local dealer and Honda where kind enough to give me a direct replacement of a 2019 version so very pleased with it. I was using it to commute into Edinburgh for the a few days a week and it is really is a great bike for that. Its ABS and traction control have come on a few times on the muddy roads in the highlands as well as my local roads and its worked flawlessly. The heated grips / seats just make the journey more comfortable and enjoyable. I put on a slightly higher and wider screen from the base model as im fairly tall and I literary sit in an ocean of calm and still air when riding at all speeds. It has good range and the my DCT model has the 4 modes which in sport mode is very responsive. Love that it has a reverse gear for those times you need a little extra help to move it around. my only gripe and its a small one is that the panniers could have been bigger especially the top box as fitting a helmet in it is troublesome just an extra half inch would have made a huge difference. The part I like the best is that it just works with my iPhone and Apple CarPlay so I can use the map directions and take calls etc all from the main dash
It was more the image of the riders that was the problem. Years ago I was at a rally when the goldwing owners club turned up. It started to rain and the panic in their faces as they all got bike covers out and started protecting their precious bikes. I'd just travelled 100 miles on my hardtail chop and they acted like they couldn't go to the shops without a comfort blanket. They also requested my friend moved his 1200 goldwing rat as it spoilt the image of their club! I am going back a long time ago though, but that's the image they had....
@@crispindry2815 they also had to agree to fly U.S./Confederate flags from aerials and if they had a passenger they had to wear identically matching clothing.
@John LEON You can compare, if you start with the other bikes in the late 70's ...look at the dated crap BMW and HD were foisting on the public at the time.
Had a BMW R 1600 GT for 3 days last week. I can report that it is a motorcycle and it rides like a motorcycle. A good one eventually. I assume the Goldwing is a motorcycle, too.
@John LEON I went on a tour in Europe in 82 on my R65 two up, met a wing rider on a mountain pass in Austria/Switzerland and even then amazed at how agile it was. I just don’t see the need for the sheer engine size these days but as TMF has shown it can still shift when required. The prices though are eye watering but each to their own. The wing has always been a good bike, whereas harleys I have never liked they were poor in the 70’s and seem even worse now. I share TMF view on the styling of KTM’s as well
Your tour videos with Goldwing made me love it even more. I felt the engine is excessive, wish it came with a 3cyl 900cc engine. So I googled Goldwing alternatives. I was surprised to learn about NM4 Vultus. DCT, 750cc twin, comfy seating, comfy ride position, tour friendly, significantly higher fuel economy! I think that's a very nice proposition as well.
The Missenden Flyer thankyou so much for your wonderful Goldwing 4 part video tour of England/Wales. As a former professional/semi-professional athlete I have no clue about bikes whatsoever but like you say I know the Goldwing very very well.By far the most impressive motorcycle I have ever seen.I even checked one out a few years back at my local Honda dealership with no intention of buying one whatsoever but just listen to the dealer rave on about it and just be in it's presence was something to behold.A fantastic piece of engineering I must say and it's sheer size is amazing and so comfortable to sit on,like a couch on wheels. I may never get the chance to own or ride one but watching your video clips made me feel like I had done both.A fantastic job promoting this impressive bit of kit.Love that colour.Well done sir. I'll probably watch your clips over and over a few times yet.Safe travels from this point forward👉.
I have a 2000 Honda Valkyrie interstate and love it I only paid $2000 and it had 9000 miles on it now it has 90,000 miles and never let me down, I ride coast to coast once a year here in the USA, wish I could afford the new gold wing seems like such a perfect bike for what I do
😢 Don't know if you ever mentioned the fact that it's one of the few bikes or only bike with an Airbag! 😮 Should have made Honda an offer they couldn't refuse on there secondhand bike. 😊
I think you’re spot on with the pros and cons of this bike. However, if you do have city traffic to deal with, I would think the DCT version would be the only way to go. Huge advantage for a large bike like this in those situations. I sooooo wish I could afford one!
@@kevindarkstar a used Goldwing is always an option. I bought a '14 Audio Comfort/Nav/XM model with 1,000 back in 2015 for far less than the cost of a new 2015 bike. Best of all, I prefer the previous generation to the 2018+ models.
I live in the northwest mountainous region of New York, lots of great desolate twisting mountain roads with great elevation changes. Except for the relatively long winters, it's really motorcycle paradise. My good friend moved west to Colorado so we planned a 3,400 mile ride (over 10 days) using Mad Maps Southwest Rides of a Lifetime Road Trip Map including Arches national park, Zion national park, Bryce canyon, Grand canyon, Rocky mountains, Sedona and Santa Fe I flew into Denver airport and rented a GoldWing. I've owned many different bikes over the years from Ducatis to Harleys and just about everything in between. I fell in love with the GoldWing in the first 5 minutes of riding it! This bike was fast, smooth, comfortable, handled way beyond expectations and had a legendary reputation for reliability. It didn't matter if I was doing circles in parking lots or passing sport bikes on the inside of a fast sweeper I knew instantly this was the bike for me! When I got home I jumped on my Yamaha VStar 1100 and almost crashed into the guardrail at the bottom of my driveway. I couldn't make that thing turn! Bought a brand new leftover 2012 ABS NAV in 2013 for a little more than 20 grand. Put around 10,000 miles a year on it ( I also have 2 Enduros and 2 dirt bikes) I change the oil once a year a replace tires as necessary and it's never had an issue of any kind. I would love to get a new one with DCT but my 2012 is still as amazing as the day I got it so I don't see the point. Don't see me ever wanting anything else for my main street bike. Anyone who says anything derogatory about a GoldWing hasn't ridden one!
True , but like cars they are all bought on pcp or finance know .Bigger fool you , but at least you do not take on the Depreciation . Even though you never actually own anything ,
I have a 2009 GL1800 and my only regret is that I didn't get one much earlier! It handles it all. Touring, Sport, Commuting... everything! Unless you're trying to break some Grand Prix records, it does sport riding very well, too! Best all-around bike there is without a doubt.
Thanks, Mr Flyer for these videos with the Goldwing. Never a bike on my horizon ...but you've convinced me they are worth a gander.Presented chipper enthusiasm and great see Mrs Flyer getting dragged into more of your content, Keep up the great work! I did buy my current GS based on your reports and reviews...still pretty happy with it 4 years
@@TheMissendenFlyer tho now in my new distopyian COVID world, in which my commute has pretty much reduced a few miles.. I now no longer really need to big heavy round the world trailie..and my local KTM dealer has a used 2017 Aprillia Tuono Factory for sale at a good price... only drawback to it is that it has a MotoGP style end can..and what with me being a sound engineer, Im not sure this could the best career decision I could make. And my neighbors already complain about the stock GS. Which I have to say has greatly improved aurally, with mileage.
As a former owner of the old 1800 these are brilliant bikes and it would do everything I asked of it and more and at 5'6" never had any issues with the weight, took it all over Europe and the UK and yes I even towed a trailer with mine when the other half went camping with me. Best Bike I ever owned (GS comes a close 2nd)
It is an awesome machine, so refined. I remember the original Goldwing from 1976, 1000CC flat four and we thought back then what a tourer and it wasn't that heavy.
Very impressive. Don’t tell anyone but I remember riding the original 1975 Goldwing, I had a CB750K2 at the time. I do relate to your comment about the instant attraction, as soon as I let the clutch out and both feet were on the pegs I loved it. Super smooth engine with a linear power delivery, fabulous, it started a trend and indeed a way of life for some. Making room in your garage perhaps ?
Just arrived from a HD video and value wise, you can’t go past the Gold Wing. I’ve seen them sell for 65% of the original price with over 100k miles on them! A Gold Wing is more than a cruiser. It’s earned its respect in the motorcycle world!
You're absolutely right in repeating that we should all be mindful about keeping our bike-biases in check and judge a motor on its merits (except scooters of course lol). Just as with most other things, there aren't any one "proper type". Some prefer blue, some prefer coffee, some prefer skiing, some prefer women, and some prefer off-road riding to racing. Most of us who come to this channel probably prefer two wheels over four.
Never tried a big scoot then? My Honda FJS 600 scoot takes me on long trips (500 plus miles a day) & twisty back roads as well as any bike I've ridden in 40 years of riding. Will do well over the ton too. Its not much different to my XJ900 Diversion tbh.
I recently added a Honda Silver Wing FJS600 scooter to my Garage . Rode it 1170 miles from the Uk through France and Spain to my House in Andalucía. The Wing was fantastic will sit all day at 80 on the motorway , is comfortable , effortless to ride ,carry’s all your stuff easily and if the point of Touring is to sit back and enjoy the journey through foreign fields ? Then a Big scooter makes a whole lot of sense. Now back in Spain the Wing gets used daily , i hardly ever use the car anymore in fact.
I grew up and then lived in the same area as you for 40 years and then moved abroad in 1998 so one of the reasons I watch your videos is the fact that I know nearly every road that you ride around on when doing local reviews. Thank you for the memories, they are roads I rode on too.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Spent 8 years in the USA and then 14 in Dubai and am now in Ukraine. I still have family in Chesham and Bourne End and cannot wait for travel to be opened up again so that I can come and see them ... sadly I do not have a bike at the moment - the first time since 1972 when I was 16 and started out on an NSU Quickly moped. The feeling of freedom when I am on a bike never leaves me.
I have had two previous models of the gl1800 and put about 450,000 miles in total on the two of them. Great bikes, if they had not shrunk the luggage and the fuel tank I would have bought a third wing. Instead I bought a BMW RT with a top trunk and it has a bigger tank, longer range,and bigger luggage as well as more sporty cornering. The goldwing is a great bike and if you push it it will shock many folks with the level of performance it has, due to high speed cornering I had ground away about half of the foot pegs on each side. A goldwing will never be a bad choice for a bike in some cases it might come in second or third on your want list but the low rpm roll on power is amazing. Nothing comes close to the off idle power of a wing.
I enjoy your videos. I've had a Honda F6b for 5 years. Been considering trading it in for a Speed Twin. I'm keeping an old Harley. I like the weather protection, storage, engine and reliability on the F6b. I don't like all the plastic, how windy it is, the non-adjustable handlebars and lower pegs with minimal foot space. Its not comfy on longer rides, hurts between my shoulder blades, and is heavy and cumbersome around town. The Speed Twin is a beauty, and I imagine loads of fun to ride on anything but long trips.
i have a 2015 model and it is the best bike ive ever ridden, if i could afford the 2021 version I would not hesitate. you are absolutely right when you say the wing has a bad press, but i guarantee once you ride one for a few hours you will never ride a better bike ...
Not to be nit-picky, but on the DCT model, the forward and reverse "walking modes" do NOT use the starter motor, they use the actual engine. The Manual Transmission GW DOES indeed use the starter motor (like the previous generations of GWs did). Enjoyed the video!
Andy, the most important thing you said was that you have to judge a bike against the purpose for which it was intended. I have no doubt that people have gone long distance two-up touring on a 125, have taken Fireblades off-road or others have raced a Nikens. They have proved that it’s possible, but little else. There are bikes that can do more that one job well but you are starting to push the limits of reality (and sanity) if you expect any bike to excel at more than two things. We also have to realise that we have moved well beyond the days when a motorcycle was purchased because you couldn’t afford a car. So with some exceptions a motorcycle is a luxury and not a necessity. As a result, they have become highly specialised and designed for a particular niche in the market. Unfortunately too many people refuse to accept this. The Goldwing is such an example. It is a superb A/B/road motorway tourer, maybe even the best. It competes against the FJR 1300, BMW’s K 1600 and so on. None of these bikes are what could call cheap. All will do a superb job at taking you effortlessly from one place to another yet each has a different features in order to achieve its design goal. Only by having honest, well structured, detailed and balanced reviews such as yours Andy can potential buyers start to zero in on the particular features that are important to them. So again, many thanks for your work.
I own a 2015 Road Glide Special and while I’ve owned Honda’s, Kawasaki’s and Triumphs, my HD just has that soul and feel you can’t get on a generic machine like the Gold Wing. No knocking it at all, I’ve just learned that riding is more than smooth butter, it’s feeling as one with your machine and feeling good about what you’re riding. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
When he said that the GoldWing is the Range Rover of motorcycles I wondered if he was referring to the matter of reliability, maintenance and repairs? 😜
I remember when the Goldies first came out in the mid 70’s. Here in Australia they were a naked bike and compared to others it was a behemoth. You couldn’t afford to be a short guy and ride this. Riding was the easy part, the stopping at lights or just pushing it around you needed to have your feet well planted. I got a lift with a guy one day and when I reached my destination I got off and the bike went down. This was because the rider could only touch the ground with one foot. I soon found out how heavy the Goldie was lol. These days the bike is bigger, but has more luxury’s and has come along way in 45 years. I know a guy who has an 86 model and it has over 500k on the clock and still goes strong. Thanks for another compressive video/s from Down Under.
AS always, another great review which influenced me to consider & buy a new 2019 Goldwing!I recently sold my 2018 K1600B, which was a great bike,. I do NOT miss the BMW for a second. The Goldwing is an absolute joy to ride and I will be able to ride it all day long with no fatigue! (I have had an 800 mile day on a Ducati GT1000 and a 1000 mile day on a BMW GSA 800) I LOVE this Honda and look forward to further exploring the USA on it ! Thank you and keep up the amazing work !
Have to say I have never been much of a Goldwing fan but as mentioned in the threads I should not dislike what I have not ridden. Anyone interested in a Wing should watch these vids because the enthusiasm and quality of the bike comes through and I am sure anyone swaying to purchase would defo say yes and get one. Great vid set. liked them all.
I guess I'm a sport bike guy. I've a Busa with 122,000 MILES. A S1000RR with 21,000. A new 2020 Katana that I traded a GSXS1000 in on. That being said, I also have a 2016 Wing bought new in 2019 that I comute on. I find it a blast to ride. I ride it on exactly the same fun roads as my other bikes. 200 mile round trip twice a week. Other than coming to a complete foot down stop she is just as fun, just as chuckable as the others. The wife loves it too. I could easily have it as my only bike. Great review as always TMF! Cheers from the States.
I have had 2 Gold Wings, but I suspect most people are like me and buy a bike with every intention of 'doing a tour' only to rarely go further than work and back on it plus a couple of bike nights. Soon enough the weight of the bike, the inability to filter, and the terrible mpg figures mean it just sits there parked up in the garage taking the whole garage up to boot...so we trade them for a more practical machine and fondly tell everyone "I used to have a Wing"....
Bought one myself ( bagger style) on a 20 plate and love it. Investors had many many different types of bikes over 45 years of riding and now that I’m on my 60’s this bike is great! I’m only 5’4” tall but find this bike great ,especially the low manoeuvre mode which helps In car parks . The bagger doesn’t quite have the mods on as the full tour mode but is great for the single rider . Thanks for your honest opinion of the bike 👍
Having to get rid of one of six bikes to fit this legend in the garage is a problem I would like to have. Thank you for your extremely well done coverage of the bike! I think I would need an exhaust full of character to convince me. I loved the cobra 6 in 6 on my old Valkyrie.
Hi Andy, I take your point entirely- it’s a really great bike for the purpose of touring but perhaps with a pillion. Long distance touring at that! I’d love to do it but my wife, contrary to the views expressed here, would only do that kind of touring in our Range Rover. There it is! The new Triumph 900 for touring on my own and the Speedmaster for fun! Great reviews Andy and really enjoyed the mini tour in Wales with your very understanding wife!!! Yours aye and stay safe, Alan
Cheers Alan, you are a man of great taste (I'm a Range Rover fanboy too - like the Goldwing, just a superb vehicle for long distance mile munching in relaxed comfort)....
Start off by saying I love your videos and value your opinion. I do have to say I think Honda has yet again missed the mark on a luxury touring motorcycle. I love the gold wing and have owned 4 of them, However, it is not a long distance tourer that you can carry enough of your essentials on, due to the lack of luggage/gear space, especially if you ride 2 up. And for a bike that costs $35k+ in the US, that is a huge deal breaker. For the serious long distance touring folks that own gold wings, you’ll always see a trailer in tow because of the lack of storage. For the price, they should include the trailer on every sale. I’ll stick with my GS, thank you! Keep up the good work on videos Cheers.
Cheers Chris - I love the GW but I'm afraid even if it had zero storage there's still no reason to EVER have a trailer on a motorcycle...just plain wrong!
Sold my goldwing and bought a 1200gs lovely bike , but do miss the sheer smoothness and torque of the wing! Still i do have a Honda Rune for that flat six upth
Plans for the future......: Win lottery Buy Honda Goldwing Put Wife on the pillion seat .....the rest is history in the making... Safe rides everyone 👍🏍🙏💪
@@tropicalsnow You must be very, very unhappily married or maybe never experienced the blessing of true intimate love. I am sorry to hear that, well don't give up hope. Miracle do happen....
@@stevetaylor8698 More to do with conform and smoothness of the ride for both the rider and passenger. I doubt there are many cars out there that are better than Rolls Royce and Bentley when it comes to comfort and smoothness of the ride.
I guess the main hurdle for most would be that £31k price tag. You'd need to do an awful lot if touring to justify that with a wife/partner who was into that sort of holiday, unless of course you're fortunate enough for money not to be an issue. Back in the real world you could buy a new GS and a new 2nd bike too if you wanted to or be able to do a few trade ins and just have a GS. I'd love one but just couldn't afford £31k for a bike that wouldn't do everything I needed it to. Not sure about the DCT thing either, can't see the point if you have a manual bike with a decent QS on it unless maybe you have problems using a clutch due to a disability etc. Enjoyed this set of reviews Andy, hearing things from a pillion perspective is a rarity that's overlooked by just about every other CZcamsr. keep them coming please
Have a few bikes. Bought my dad's goldwing after he retired. My bike's now sit with gas preserver in the tank all year. 1986 BTW. Keep it tip top and it runs like a champ. Still cruises good and still can dust most bikes.
Yes I'm hoping I might be able to do more with the Goldwing in future so maybe a specific video on cost of ownership (I'll get input from owners too!) would be a good idea....
In general I think cost of ownership should be part of any evaluation of a bike. With regards to insurance one could choose a template type (average) with age, bonus-malus, location for example and apply it to all bikes that are reviewed.
I have an '05 GL non ABS with 84k. Fuel mileage between 30/46 mpg. Get about 15k on a rear tire and 30k on front with Dunlop Elite 2 & 3 series. Tires cost $425pair. OEM brake pads lasted 73k. Pads run about $40. pair. I change oil & filter at 4k. Honda filter about $10. Mobil1 4T 10/40 racing $8 - 10. qt., 5 needed. Every 2 years flush brake & clutch fluid. Engine coolant. At 30k air filter & sparkplugs. They could have gone 40k Final gear oil at 20/25k Repairs so far starter/cruise control/ reverse, all one unit. I have the shop flush the brake & clutch fluids and change air filter. I take the wheels in for new tires. If you can perform maintenance the GL is easy to service and you'll save hundreds.
Goldwing has been around for a long time. The last bike I rode was a Yamaha DT 50, now that was a long time ago bikes these days have got so much power. I will stick to 2 wheels peddle power. Cracking videos what you post
It's a really good bike. I tried to buy one this year, I wanted a 2020 DCT in white, but they were all sold out everywhere, and production stopped due to Covid. If you have the funds and know what you're getting it's a really good option for those who like to actually ride long distances rather than just talk about doing them.
Although not for me due to lack of space and price tag, totally get your love for this bike and like you say appreciate all types of bike's. Cheers Andy.
The gold wing is one great Motorcycle, I had a brand New 1989 gold wing in 1990, I loved it, had it for 10 years. Whould like to have a new one now. I paid $10,000 for the 1989, $31,000 for a new one now, in my opinion that's too much money, the market had gone crazy, same thing goes for Harley Davidson touring motorcycles.
The new goldwing DCT actually uses the engine for the creep forward and back... and it does not have a starter... it uses the alternator as a starter... which is why it has that unique starting sound, and starts almost instantly!
Five or six years ago I owned a Yamaha 600cc Sportbike. My wife and I were visiting family out west and I rented the previous generation Gold Wing F6B for a few days. At first I was intimidated by the size and weight but after an hour or so of riding I became more comfortable with the machine and by the next day I was ready to buy one. They are not perfect but they are a damn good bike and if I hit the lottery, I’m off to the Honda dealership.
I think the Gold Wing is *Extreme Touring*. We are quick to label sports racers as extreme but the GW is too heavy, too expensive....which is a good thing! More variety, more bikes more fun. I prefer the other end : extremely rapid sports bikes with hard seats , leg cramp, and mad engines.
Brilliant review. Watched Welsh Tour with your darling. In fact I was due to buy a GS and after the first review you did I took an old Pan out from a shop and bought it. Honda are incredible bikes. I’ll definitely take out a Goldwing for a test. Won’t be buying but can’t wait. Fair play Mr.Fly!!
Hi Andy... loved your video series on the Goldwing and it appears to be a superb machine . I drive a 2017 BMW K1600GTL myself and honestly you could apply a lot of what you said to my bike ... super smooth engine with very smooth gearshift blipper.heated seats and grips ,reverse gear etc...I must say the K1600 beats it on luggage capacity. Both superbly capable touring machines .
Agreed - although I found the last K1600 I rode a touch too top heavy for me....the GW holds it's weight much lower and hence is easier for a wimpy guy like me to move around....
They are heavy beasts ok... but I have been riding K model BMW ‘s a long time now so I suppose it is a matter of what you are familiar and comfortable with ... I am not exactly large myself but don’t find them overly intimidating!!! But I can see myself downsizing in the next few years ... So maybe Andy ... you might try out the new Multistrada V4s....it looks appealing...
If you get one of these I'm assuming there's no need to switch out the exhaust, install a tail-tidy, buy a different wind screen, an aftermarket seat, and probably several other more minor items. So even though it's expensive, it's not as bad as you think. I only wish someone would make a version with an 800cc to 1000cc engine that was also lighter and less expensive.
Have you had any issues with the pegs scraping on bends? I have a GL1800 that’s 10yrs old and I keep scraping the pegs. Interested because I may upgrade to the DCT.
If you compare the price to other bikes in the same class and intended purpose, it really isn't that expensive. I bought my 2018 DCT Tour November 2019 for just about $23k. I traded my 2015 Harley Ultra Classic, and have absolutely no regrets at all! By the way, blue is the best color!
Yes I saw that today too - good move on the top box front, not so sure there was anything wrong with the seat or sound system but good on 'em for incrementally making improvements (on what is an incredible machine)...
Honda were kind enough to lend me the previous evaluation machine some time ago, and a local dealer was keen to lend me their latest dct. Our thoughts are that both bikes are top tourers, equally comfortable. The dct is surprisingly good, and I was dead against the idea of an auto box before riding it! The price of the current bike is huge, eye watering, but we would have chopped our ST1300 in for a new Wing but for two insurmountable (for us) problems. 1. You cannot store even one full-face helmet on the bike, let alone two - you can get two in a Pan top box, or one in each of the panniers. 2. The build quality is not as good as the previous model, and the year old demonstrator was already rusting, which is very, very un-Honda like - my 200k mile Pan is rust free apart from a bit of corrosion to the downpipes, and the bike's used all year round. The Wing is still the best touring bike on the planet!
I absolutely love the Gold Wing but alas it is well and truly out of my price range. I'll just have to stick with my 2003 CB1300, which I love as well. 🇬🇧 🏴 🇬🇧🏴 🇬🇧 🏴
My 2018 Gold Wing is the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I did have a 2013 F6B Gold Wing thinking that the stripped down version of the old wing would be what I was after. While it was okay it wasn't quite what I was looking for. The 2018+ Gold Wing is.
Great summing up. Personally I prefer the look of the bagger version, but if a passenger is likely then obvs yours is the bizz. Now, if those nice people at Honda have lent Richy V a long term Africa Twin then I’m sure they could see their way to providing you with the Gold Wing for a wee bit longer 😉
Went in to my dealer in Brisbane yesterday to buy some oil. Standing next to a Goldwing talking to a salesman. He told me that an 85 year old man purchased the Goldwing yesterday. I am 76 , and thought that my riding days may be close to being over. I rode out of there " on a cloud" feeling 25 again. Good on you old mate whoever you are, got to go of something. Bloody site better than being in a Nursing home.
I used to commute into central London 18 years ago on my GS ADV no trouble before all the madness going on in London under Mayor Khan, It would be impossible now the mayor has made most roads single lane with cycle super highways, pedestrian barriers in the road & metal poles narrowing roads & also closing bridges across the Thames causing grid locks. Even the scooterists are finding it difficult to filter in London traffic now let alone a Goldwing
I'm not sure I'd agree with not being able to filter on "big bikes". Yes in the confines of town traffic they aren't as nimble as smaller bikes, (but then tourers aren't usually an alternative choice to a smaller bike anyway) but easing past queues on clogged motorways isn't much different, the widest part of most bikes is the bars and few bikes are much wider than standard handlebars. I've filtered on the M25 (who hasn't!) as well as other UK and European motorways on various RT's and a K1600GT, with pillion,, and it's more down to bike handling than the actual bike.
Ive always liked this beautiful machine and sad you’re returning it too as loved following your adventures on it, it just hums along. I had an op yesterday so recovering in bed at the moment so I’m watching all my favourite lads (and lasses) so keep em coming please, fab video mate. As always kind regards.
@theMissendenFlyer Swapped my GS for one of these in September and yep I agree. There is an issue with the navigation in that planning a customised route on the fly is difficult if not impossible at present hopefully an App will come out soon that Apple CarPlay compatible but Honda should have sorted this before release. At present I’m thinking of getting another smaller bike as commuter runaround, possibly a used CB500X but we will see. Why don’t you p/ex your GS for a Goldwing, you don’t use your GS off road so as you like the Goldwing so much it may make sense??
@@TheMissendenFlyer That’s a good question 🤔 I’ve owned different BMW Boxers for 20 years, so I suspect that just because I am so used to them I miss the Boxer grinding drumming away BUT then I would definitely miss that Flat 6 , it’s in another league to any other bike I’ve ridden (including the K1600 which I think is a bit of a tart compared to the flat 6) Luggage capacity miss that, but next year I am getting the rack fitted with a luggage roll (£800!!!!) so that sorts that. Frankly for 2 up touring it’s the poodles privates and my wife was clear from the moment we test ride it she would only go touring again on a Goldwing, so no I don’t miss much and now plus the added benefit is that I can now justify to SWBO why I need another bike 😬
Nice and as comfortable as it is, I would rather do the same ride on a smaller bike and achieve the same results and yet would be more cost effective and self gratifying, I think. In other words, it's a "I want" vs. "I need" comparison. Thanks for the ride along!
Epitome of Honda engineering and agree it is a fabulous touring machine; however my tours typically include primitive/in-paved roads and without pillion. Thus too heavy and narrowly focused for my riding.
The 1800 'Wing is a great bike and definitely on my aspirational list. I have a 1500 'Wing I have owned since new in 2000 and think it needs a big sister to keep it company - Maybe 2021 will see that dream come true....
Well it's another option for sure - for me the Honda holds its weight much lower and is therefore much more manageable as a big bike (especially as I'm quite a small fella)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Indeed; we ride what suits. I daren't test this just in case the Mrs likes it more than the K and inflicts serious wallet damage. FWIW you were spot on about the K - I really like it. Keep up the good work.
Have gone around the Parifiq? Around Paris loads of times and cannot believe how fast Goldwinds filter there, absolutely incredible, I'm on a Triumph Trophy and am not slow, but Parisians are another breed!!
My dad always had goldwings, we went all over Europe with the gold wing owners club...great memories
Interesting, judging a motorcycle against what they’re designed to do. Perhaps that’s what we ought to do, but isn’t it the case that we often do the opposite? Have a bike that’s primarily designed for a closed track and find it’s decent on the street - well, I’m impressed. An “off road” bike behaving civilly on the street? Brilliant. A scooter designed to pop down for chips being excellent for a cross country tour? Yep. Could it be that how we really judge bikes is for how well they do the things they aren’t designed to do?
Many of my viewers call my 2018 Goldwing the "Starship Enterprise" of motorcycles. They aren't wrong! Best bike I've ever owned hands down.
Im Loving my goldwing, its the second one since my first one in 2018 but there was a wiring loom issue and it kept every so often not starting, my local dealer and Honda where kind enough to give me a direct replacement of a 2019 version so very pleased with it. I was using it to commute into Edinburgh for the a few days a week and it is really is a great bike for that. Its ABS and traction control have come on a few times on the muddy roads in the highlands as well as my local roads and its worked flawlessly. The heated grips / seats just make the journey more comfortable and enjoyable. I put on a slightly higher and wider screen from the base model as im fairly tall and I literary sit in an ocean of calm and still air when riding at all speeds. It has good range and the my DCT model has the 4 modes which in sport mode is very responsive. Love that it has a reverse gear for those times you need a little extra help to move it around. my only gripe and its a small one is that the panniers could have been bigger especially the top box as fitting a helmet in it is troublesome just an extra half inch would have made a huge difference. The part I like the best is that it just works with my iPhone and Apple CarPlay so I can use the map directions and take calls etc all from the main dash
Bob Bazley That's what my first wife said.
It was more the image of the riders that was the problem. Years ago I was at a rally when the goldwing owners club turned up. It started to rain and the panic in their faces as they all got bike covers out and started protecting their precious bikes. I'd just travelled 100 miles on my hardtail chop and they acted like they couldn't go to the shops without a comfort blanket. They also requested my friend moved his 1200 goldwing rat as it spoilt the image of their club! I am going back a long time ago though, but that's the image they had....
Oh dear, not helping themselves there then!
@@crispindry2815 they also had to agree to fly U.S./Confederate flags from aerials and if they had a passenger they had to wear identically matching clothing.
@@crispindry2815 Haha
The only people who dislike a Goldwing have never actually ridden one
Fully agree ! I used to be biased too ! Changed my opinion a 180° !!
@John LEON You can compare, if you start with the other bikes in the late 70's ...look at the dated crap BMW and HD were foisting on the public at the time.
Had a BMW R 1600 GT for 3 days last week. I can report that it is a motorcycle and it rides like a motorcycle. A good one eventually. I assume the Goldwing is a motorcycle, too.
Couldn't agree more.....changed my mind about them within first 50 yards of my first ride on one...
@John LEON I went on a tour in Europe in 82 on my R65 two up, met a wing rider on a mountain pass in Austria/Switzerland and even then amazed at how agile it was. I just don’t see the need for the sheer engine size these days but as TMF has shown it can still shift when required. The prices though are eye watering but each to their own. The wing has always been a good bike, whereas harleys I have never liked they were poor in the 70’s and seem even worse now. I share TMF view on the styling of KTM’s as well
I considered a Goldwing but bought a Honda CR-V. Not to worry, there's still a Honda Ruckus, a CRF250L Rally, a VFR500F, and a VTX1800T in the garage.
Ruck rider here, yo.
Your tour videos with Goldwing made me love it even more. I felt the engine is excessive, wish it came with a 3cyl 900cc engine. So I googled Goldwing alternatives. I was surprised to learn about NM4 Vultus. DCT, 750cc twin, comfy seating, comfy ride position, tour friendly, significantly higher fuel economy! I think that's a very nice proposition as well.
Go on....treat yourself! You've no longer got the CRF, so you've got a bit of space in the garage.
What happened to the CRF?
CRF gone? Oh no.
What no crf? that was a great bike for its intended purpose . 👍🏻☮❤
The Missenden Flyer thankyou so much for your wonderful Goldwing 4 part video tour of England/Wales.
As a former professional/semi-professional athlete I have no clue about bikes whatsoever but like you say I know the Goldwing very very well.By far the most impressive motorcycle I have ever seen.I even checked one out a few years back at my local Honda dealership with no intention of buying one whatsoever but just listen to the dealer rave on about it and just be in it's presence was something to behold.A fantastic piece of engineering I must say and it's sheer size is amazing and so comfortable to sit on,like a couch on wheels.
I may never get the chance to own or ride one but watching your video clips made me feel like I had done both.A fantastic job promoting this impressive bit of kit.Love that colour.Well done sir.
I'll probably watch your clips over and over a few times yet.Safe travels from this point forward👉.
Greetings from Cali, USA. I love my 03' GoldWing, I grew up with them my Dad owned 3 of them starting with a 77'
I have a 2000 Honda Valkyrie interstate and love it I only paid $2000 and it had 9000 miles on it now it has 90,000 miles and never let me down, I ride coast to coast once a year here in the USA, wish I could afford the new gold wing seems like such a perfect bike for what I do
Well that bike doesn’t owe you anything James! Nice one 👍
As a BMW rider, I dont disagre it probably is the best tourer available and they have good residual value's also.
got a ride what you love abms harley whatever it is is beautiful
Puts it in sports mode : police car comes past!!
Saw that...
Yes I couldn't help noticing that either!!
Good timing Old Bill.
😂😂
Yep😂😂
😢 Don't know if you ever mentioned the fact that it's one of the few bikes or only bike with an Airbag! 😮 Should have made Honda an offer they couldn't refuse on there secondhand bike. 😊
Yes - I have a video on motorcycle airbags coming soon....
Yes, what would happen if the rider were wearing an airbag jacket? Probably end up in orbit!
Disagree, when girlfriend on back of any bike theirs my airbag!
Bought a new Goldwing 8 months ago. Have put over 18,000 miles on it. Absolutely love it.
Good choice!
Impressive but keep putting massive miles on it and you will kill the value
@@boomerhgt Only if you sell it! LOL . I bought it to use it , not look at it!
@@boomerhgt no you wont: few people can drop 31k on a new one, so used ones will always be in demand from those with smaller budgets
I think you’re spot on with the pros and cons of this bike. However, if you do have city traffic to deal with, I would think the DCT version would be the only way to go. Huge advantage for a large bike like this in those situations. I sooooo wish I could afford one!
Would love a goldwing. A lot of money though. Hopefully they are still going when I can afford one.
Still way outside the average riders budget
Goldwings have been one of Hondas best sellers so I'm sure they will still be going
Its probably why its seen as a old person's bike lol by the time most people can afford one they are old
That's the plan ☺️
@@kevindarkstar a used Goldwing is always an option. I bought a '14 Audio Comfort/Nav/XM model with 1,000 back in 2015 for far less than the cost of a new 2015 bike. Best of all, I prefer the previous generation to the 2018+ models.
I live in the northwest mountainous region of New York, lots of great desolate twisting mountain roads with great elevation changes. Except for the relatively long winters, it's really motorcycle paradise.
My good friend moved west to Colorado so we planned a 3,400 mile ride (over 10 days) using Mad Maps Southwest Rides of a Lifetime Road Trip Map including Arches national park, Zion national park, Bryce canyon, Grand canyon, Rocky mountains, Sedona and Santa Fe
I flew into Denver airport and rented a GoldWing. I've owned many different bikes over the years from Ducatis to Harleys and just about everything in between. I fell in love with the GoldWing in the first 5 minutes of riding it!
This bike was fast, smooth, comfortable, handled way beyond expectations and had a legendary reputation for reliability.
It didn't matter if I was doing circles in parking lots or passing sport bikes on the inside of a fast sweeper I knew instantly this was the bike for me!
When I got home I jumped on my Yamaha VStar 1100 and almost crashed into the guardrail at the bottom of my driveway. I couldn't make that thing turn!
Bought a brand new leftover 2012 ABS NAV in 2013 for a little more than 20 grand. Put around 10,000 miles a year on it ( I also have 2 Enduros and 2 dirt bikes)
I change the oil once a year a replace tires as necessary and it's never had an issue of any kind.
I would love to get a new one with DCT but my 2012 is still as amazing as the day I got it so I don't see the point.
Don't see me ever wanting anything else for my main street bike.
Anyone who says anything derogatory about a GoldWing hasn't ridden one!
Couldn't agree more!
That's the only down side! 🤨 I'd beg to differ, I'd say that the price is a huge obstacle for an average person!
Agreed -- think of how many bikes you could buy for £31K...
True , but like cars they are all bought on pcp or finance know .Bigger fool you , but at least you do not take on the Depreciation . Even though you never actually own anything ,
@@LOTPOR0402 I would correct you when you say they are all bought on pcp or finance
Stephen Mundane Yeah totally it's a hell of a bike but Jesus 31 grand for DCT
I’ve just bought the Goldwing bagger just had it 3 weeks and it’s amazing love the Apple CarPlay
Congratulations Neil!
When I put mine on Sport mode first time, I thought to myself, I have Gold and I have a Wing, now we can fly !!!!!!
I have a 2009 GL1800 and my only regret is that I didn't get one much earlier!
It handles it all. Touring, Sport, Commuting... everything!
Unless you're trying to break some Grand Prix records, it does sport riding very well, too!
Best all-around bike there is without a doubt.
Good to hear Adam!
Thanks, Mr Flyer for these videos with the Goldwing. Never a bike on my horizon ...but you've convinced me they are worth a gander.Presented chipper enthusiasm and great see Mrs Flyer getting dragged into more of your content, Keep up the great work! I did buy my current GS based on your reports and reviews...still pretty happy with it 4 years
Yes the ol GS is a winner isn't it - this is the first bike I've ridden that's seriously made me think though.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer tho now in my new distopyian COVID world, in which my commute has pretty much reduced a few miles.. I now no longer really need to big heavy round the world trailie..and my local KTM dealer has a used 2017 Aprillia Tuono Factory for sale at a good price... only drawback to it is that it has a MotoGP style end can..and what with me being a sound engineer, Im not sure this could the best career decision I could make. And my neighbors already complain about the stock GS. Which I have to say has greatly improved aurally, with mileage.
As a former owner of the old 1800 these are brilliant bikes and it would do everything I asked of it and more and at 5'6" never had any issues with the weight, took it all over Europe and the UK and yes I even towed a trailer with mine when the other half went camping with me.
Best Bike I ever owned (GS comes a close 2nd)
IMO the term "the Rolls Royce of motorcycling" fits the Gold Wing to perfection, a massive ,luxurious, expensive, super comfotable tourer.
Yea, and it is 100% more refined and reliable than a Rolls Royce.
It is an awesome machine, so refined. I remember the original Goldwing from 1976, 1000CC flat four and we thought back then what a tourer and it wasn't that heavy.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by Charles!
Very impressive.
Don’t tell anyone but I remember riding the original 1975 Goldwing, I had a CB750K2 at the time.
I do relate to your comment about the instant attraction, as soon as I let the clutch out and both feet were on the pegs I loved it. Super smooth engine with a linear power delivery, fabulous, it started a trend and indeed a way of life for some.
Making room in your garage perhaps ?
Your secret is safe Andrew!
Just arrived from a HD video and value wise, you can’t go past the Gold Wing. I’ve seen them sell for 65% of the original price with over 100k miles on them! A Gold Wing is more than a cruiser. It’s earned its respect in the motorcycle world!
Just sold my harley and ordered a new goldwing night and day.
You're absolutely right in repeating that we should all be mindful about keeping our bike-biases in check and judge a motor on its merits (except scooters of course lol).
Just as with most other things, there aren't any one "proper type". Some prefer blue, some prefer coffee, some prefer skiing, some prefer women, and some prefer off-road riding to racing. Most of us who come to this channel probably prefer two wheels over four.
Never tried a big scoot then? My Honda FJS 600 scoot takes me on long trips (500 plus miles a day) & twisty back roads as well as any bike I've ridden in 40 years of riding. Will do well over the ton too. Its not much different to my XJ900 Diversion tbh.
I recently added a Honda Silver Wing FJS600 scooter to my Garage .
Rode it 1170 miles from the Uk through France and Spain to my House in Andalucía.
The Wing was fantastic will sit all day at 80 on the motorway , is comfortable , effortless to ride ,carry’s all your stuff easily and if the point of Touring is to sit back and enjoy the journey through foreign fields ?
Then a Big scooter makes a whole lot of sense.
Now back in Spain the Wing gets used daily , i hardly ever use the car anymore in fact.
@@garyporter-smith9658 Exactly. I'd only swap mine for a newer version or possibly a late model Suzuki 650 Burgman.
I grew up and then lived in the same area as you for 40 years and then moved abroad in 1998 so one of the reasons I watch your videos is the fact that I know nearly every road that you ride around on when doing local reviews. Thank you for the memories, they are roads I rode on too.
That is awesome - where re you now Mark?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Spent 8 years in the USA and then 14 in Dubai and am now in Ukraine. I still have family in Chesham and Bourne End and cannot wait for travel to be opened up again so that I can come and see them ... sadly I do not have a bike at the moment - the first time since 1972 when I was 16 and started out on an NSU Quickly moped. The feeling of freedom when I am on a bike never leaves me.
"It's the Range Rover of the Viking world" - CC
I have had two previous models of the gl1800 and put about 450,000 miles in total on the two of them. Great bikes, if they had not shrunk the luggage and the fuel tank I would have bought a third wing. Instead I bought a BMW RT with a top trunk and it has a bigger tank, longer range,and bigger luggage as well as more sporty cornering. The goldwing is a great bike and if you push it it will shock many folks with the level of performance it has, due to high speed cornering I had ground away about half of the foot pegs on each side. A goldwing will never be a bad choice for a bike in some cases it might come in second or third on your want list but the low rpm roll on power is amazing. Nothing comes close to the off idle power of a wing.
Yes that engine is something else isn't it.....but I agree the GS is more versatile.
I enjoy your videos. I've had a Honda F6b for 5 years. Been considering trading it in for a Speed Twin. I'm keeping an old Harley. I like the weather protection, storage, engine and reliability on the F6b. I don't like all the plastic, how windy it is, the non-adjustable handlebars and lower pegs with minimal foot space. Its not comfy on longer rides, hurts between my shoulder blades, and is heavy and cumbersome around town. The Speed Twin is a beauty, and I imagine loads of fun to ride on anything but long trips.
Yes I have a Speed Twin - great bike for most stuff.....maybe not track days...
i have a 2015 model and it is the best bike ive ever ridden, if i could afford the 2021 version I would not hesitate. you are absolutely right when you say the wing has a bad press, but i guarantee once you ride one for a few hours you will never ride a better bike ...
Can't disagree with that Robert - stay tuned for more on the GoldWing very soon!
Rode one all over British Columbia it completely changed my view of the Goldwing a fantastic tourer and a really great all round ride.
Told you they are good!
Not to be nit-picky, but on the DCT model, the forward and reverse "walking modes" do NOT use the starter motor, they use the actual engine. The Manual Transmission GW DOES indeed use the starter motor (like the previous generations of GWs did). Enjoyed the video!
Andy, the most important thing you said was that you have to judge a bike against the purpose for which it was intended. I have no doubt that people have gone long distance two-up touring on a 125, have taken Fireblades off-road or others have raced a Nikens. They have proved that it’s possible, but little else. There are bikes that can do more that one job well but you are starting to push the limits of reality (and sanity) if you expect any bike to excel at more than two things. We also have to realise that we have moved well beyond the days when a motorcycle was purchased because you couldn’t afford a car. So with some exceptions a motorcycle is a luxury and not a necessity. As a result, they have become highly specialised and designed for a particular niche in the market. Unfortunately too many people refuse to accept this. The Goldwing is such an example. It is a superb A/B/road motorway tourer, maybe even the best. It competes against the FJR 1300, BMW’s K 1600 and so on. None of these bikes are what could call cheap. All will do a superb job at taking you effortlessly from one place to another yet each has a different features in order to achieve its design goal. Only by having honest, well structured, detailed and balanced reviews such as yours Andy can potential buyers start to zero in on the particular features that are important to them. So again, many thanks for your work.
I own a 2015 Road Glide Special and while I’ve owned Honda’s, Kawasaki’s and Triumphs, my HD just has that soul and feel you can’t get on a generic machine like the Gold Wing. No knocking it at all, I’ve just learned that riding is more than smooth butter, it’s feeling as one with your machine and feeling good about what you’re riding. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Indeed - I felt good about riding the GoldWing!
I also thoroughly enjoyed you having the goldwing. Your Welsh tour was great TV!👍🏍
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching and for stopping by - fingers crossed for lots more tours next year (vaccine permitting)
When he said that the GoldWing is the Range Rover of motorcycles I wondered if he was referring to the matter of reliability, maintenance and repairs? 😜
Since the Range Rover has off-road capability, perhaps the GS deserves that accolade instead? Which makes the Gold Wing the Lexus of motorcycles 😉
it is reliable and comfortable and fast
I remember when the Goldies first came out in the mid 70’s. Here in Australia they were a naked bike and compared to others it was a behemoth. You couldn’t afford to be a short guy and ride this. Riding was the easy part, the stopping at lights or just pushing it around you needed to have your feet well planted. I got a lift with a guy one day and when I reached my destination I got off and the bike went down. This was because the rider could only touch the ground with one foot. I soon found out how heavy the Goldie was lol. These days the bike is bigger, but has more luxury’s and has come along way in 45 years. I know a guy who has an 86 model and it has over 500k on the clock and still goes strong. Thanks for another compressive video/s from Down Under.
Thanks for stopping by Robert, stay safe under there!
got a new one had a few now after Ducatis , r1s, Hyabusas, 955is, tl100r and s and many other the Goldwing is the best by far just love it
AS always, another great review which influenced me to consider & buy a new 2019 Goldwing!I recently sold my 2018 K1600B, which was a great bike,. I do NOT miss the BMW for a second. The Goldwing is an absolute joy to ride and I will be able to ride it all day long with no fatigue! (I have had an 800 mile day on a Ducati GT1000 and a 1000 mile day on a BMW GSA 800) I LOVE this Honda and look forward to further exploring the USA on it ! Thank you and keep up the amazing work !
I forgot to mention, I did get the DCT and it is superb!
Great to hear!
Have to say I have never been much of a Goldwing fan but as mentioned in the threads I should not dislike what I have not ridden. Anyone interested in a Wing should watch these vids because the enthusiasm and quality of the bike comes through and I am sure anyone swaying to purchase would defo say yes and get one. Great vid set. liked them all.
Thanks for watching and stopping by Bob - appreciated
I guess I'm a sport bike guy. I've a Busa with 122,000 MILES. A S1000RR with 21,000. A new 2020 Katana that I traded a GSXS1000 in on. That being said, I also have a 2016 Wing bought new in 2019 that I comute on. I find it a blast to ride. I ride it on exactly the same fun roads as my other bikes. 200 mile round trip twice a week. Other than coming to a complete foot down stop she is just as fun, just as chuckable as the others. The wife loves it too. I could easily have it as my only bike. Great review as always TMF!
Cheers from the States.
Thank you!
I love my 2018 GW DCT Tour model. I pretty much use it as a sport-tourer. Put that baby in Sport Mode and she flies!
Sure does - becomes another bike in Sport doesn’t it....
TheMissendenFlyer I thought only the 2020 model has DCT are the 2018 model DCT
I have had 2 Gold Wings, but I suspect most people are like me and buy a bike with every intention of 'doing a tour' only to rarely go further than work and back on it plus a couple of bike nights. Soon enough the weight of the bike, the inability to filter, and the terrible mpg figures mean it just sits there parked up in the garage taking the whole garage up to boot...so we trade them for a more practical machine and fondly tell everyone "I used to have a Wing"....
Yeah I completely get that......still a great bike though!
Bought one myself ( bagger style) on a 20 plate and love it. Investors had many many different types of bikes over 45 years of riding and now that I’m on my 60’s this bike is great! I’m only 5’4” tall but find this bike great ,especially the low manoeuvre mode which helps In car parks . The bagger doesn’t quite have the mods on as the full tour mode but is great for the single rider . Thanks for your honest opinion of the bike 👍
...oh and by the way yours is the "GoldWing" mine is the "GoldWing Tour" - Honda get upset if you call the Goldwing a bagger.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer your quite right and I stand corrected 😂. I did actually say it was a “ bagger style” but yes it’s just the Gold wing 👍
Having to get rid of one of six bikes to fit this legend in the garage is a problem I would like to have. Thank you for your extremely well done coverage of the bike! I think I would need an exhaust full of character to convince me. I loved the cobra 6 in 6 on my old Valkyrie.
Yes first world problems and all that! Sorry if it came across as pompous, didn't mean too....I realise I'm very fortunate compared to many.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'm curious about your income stream if you would care to divulge? Do you refer to it elsewhere?
Hi Andy, I take your point entirely- it’s a really great bike for the purpose of touring but perhaps with a pillion. Long distance touring at that! I’d love to do it but my wife, contrary to the views expressed here, would only do that kind of touring in our Range Rover. There it is! The new Triumph 900 for touring on my own and the Speedmaster for fun! Great reviews Andy and really enjoyed the mini tour in Wales with your very understanding wife!!! Yours aye and stay safe, Alan
Cheers Alan, you are a man of great taste (I'm a Range Rover fanboy too - like the Goldwing, just a superb vehicle for long distance mile munching in relaxed comfort)....
Start off by saying I love your videos and value your opinion. I do have to say I think Honda has yet again missed the mark on a luxury touring motorcycle.
I love the gold wing and have owned 4 of them, However, it is not a long distance tourer that you can carry enough of your essentials on, due to the lack of luggage/gear space, especially if you ride 2 up. And for a bike that costs $35k+ in the US, that is a huge deal breaker.
For the serious long distance touring folks that own gold wings, you’ll always see a trailer in tow because of the lack of storage. For the price, they should include the trailer on every sale.
I’ll stick with my GS, thank you!
Keep up the good work on videos
Cheers.
Cheers Chris - I love the GW but I'm afraid even if it had zero storage there's still no reason to EVER have a trailer on a motorcycle...just plain wrong!
Sold my goldwing and bought a 1200gs lovely bike , but do miss the sheer smoothness and torque of the wing!
Still i do have a Honda Rune for that flat six upth
Plans for the future......:
Win lottery
Buy Honda Goldwing
Put Wife on the pillion seat
.....the rest is history in the making...
Safe rides everyone 👍🏍🙏💪
win lottery and keep wife???
@@tropicalsnow
You must be very, very unhappily married or maybe never experienced the blessing of true intimate love.
I am sorry to hear that, well don't give up hope. Miracle do happen....
don't worry Ann Landers
I was only joking @@Herzankerkreuz67
It's more like the Rolls Royce of the biking world. The GS is more the Range Rover of the biking world
That is correct !
Correct description of the gold wing.
I’d say Goldwing is the Bentley of the bike world.
What, because neither machines never actually go off road?
@@stevetaylor8698
More to do with conform and smoothness of the ride for both the rider and passenger. I doubt there are many cars out there that are better than Rolls Royce and Bentley when it comes to comfort and smoothness of the ride.
I guess the main hurdle for most would be that £31k price tag. You'd need to do an awful lot if touring to justify that with a wife/partner who was into that sort of holiday, unless of course you're fortunate enough for money not to be an issue. Back in the real world you could buy a new GS and a new 2nd bike too if you wanted to or be able to do a few trade ins and just have a GS. I'd love one but just couldn't afford £31k for a bike that wouldn't do everything I needed it to. Not sure about the DCT thing either, can't see the point if you have a manual bike with a decent QS on it unless maybe you have problems using a clutch due to a disability etc. Enjoyed this set of reviews Andy, hearing things from a pillion perspective is a rarity that's overlooked by just about every other CZcamsr. keep them coming please
Will do Adrian - cheers!
At £30k, a good investment for rich widows. What girl wouldn't want a ballistic throne with front mounted coachman? : )
Have a few bikes. Bought my dad's goldwing after he retired. My bike's now sit with gas preserver in the tank all year. 1986 BTW. Keep it tip top and it runs like a champ. Still cruises good and still can dust most bikes.
A cost of ownership would be interesting together with an estimate of depreciation over say 3 years. There are good deals on demonstrators I hear....!
Yes I'm hoping I might be able to do more with the Goldwing in future so maybe a specific video on cost of ownership (I'll get input from owners too!) would be a good idea....
In general I think cost of ownership should be part of any evaluation of a bike.
With regards to insurance one could choose a template type (average) with age, bonus-malus, location for example and apply it to all bikes that are reviewed.
I have an '05 GL non ABS with 84k.
Fuel mileage between 30/46 mpg.
Get about 15k on a rear tire and 30k on front with Dunlop Elite 2 & 3 series. Tires cost $425pair.
OEM brake pads lasted 73k. Pads run about $40. pair.
I change oil & filter at 4k. Honda filter about $10. Mobil1 4T 10/40 racing $8 - 10. qt., 5 needed.
Every 2 years flush brake & clutch fluid. Engine coolant.
At 30k air filter & sparkplugs. They could have gone 40k
Final gear oil at 20/25k
Repairs so far starter/cruise control/ reverse, all one unit.
I have the shop flush the brake & clutch fluids and change air filter. I take the wheels in for new tires.
If you can perform maintenance the GL is easy to service and you'll save hundreds.
@@IDYLBERRY
Interesting rundown of running costs.
Goldwing has been around for a long time. The last bike I rode was a Yamaha DT 50, now that was a long time ago bikes these days have got so much power. I will stick to 2 wheels peddle power. Cracking videos what you post
Thank you Stephen - appreciated! I used to love the DT!
It's a really good bike. I tried to buy one this year, I wanted a 2020 DCT in white, but they were all sold out everywhere, and production stopped due to Covid. If you have the funds and know what you're getting it's a really good option for those who like to actually ride long distances rather than just talk about doing them.
Couldn't agree more Richard, incredible machine and I thoroughly enjoyed mt time with it.....no better long distance bike on the planet.
Although not for me due to lack of space and price tag, totally get your love for this bike and like you say appreciate all types of bike's. Cheers Andy.
The gold wing is one great Motorcycle, I had a brand New 1989 gold wing in 1990, I loved it, had it for 10 years. Whould like to have a new one now. I paid $10,000 for the 1989, $31,000 for a new one now, in my opinion that's too much money, the market had gone crazy, same thing goes for Harley Davidson touring motorcycles.
Yes crazy expensive....but what a bike!
The new goldwing DCT actually uses the engine for the creep forward and back... and it does not have a starter... it uses the alternator as a starter... which is why it has that unique starting sound, and starts almost instantly!
why does everyone think it is an electric reverse?
It's like a golf cart or older starter/generator type starter. It's basically a two in one, starter/alternator.
Five or six years ago I owned a Yamaha 600cc Sportbike. My wife and I were visiting family out west and I rented the previous generation Gold Wing F6B for a few days. At first I was intimidated by the size and weight but after an hour or so of riding I became more comfortable with the machine and by the next day I was ready to buy one. They are not perfect but they are a damn good bike and if I hit the lottery, I’m off to the Honda dealership.
Agreed!
Never threw leg over it but loving it. Its like a Merc S class
...it's so much better than that....
I think the Gold Wing is *Extreme Touring*. We are quick to label sports racers as extreme but the GW is too heavy, too expensive....which is a good thing! More variety, more bikes more fun.
I prefer the other end : extremely rapid sports bikes with hard seats , leg cramp, and mad engines.
Brilliant review. Watched Welsh Tour with your darling. In fact I was due to buy a GS and after the first review you did I took an old Pan out from a shop and bought it. Honda are incredible bikes. I’ll definitely take out a Goldwing for a test. Won’t be buying but can’t wait. Fair play Mr.Fly!!
I have a 2002 GL 1800 that I absolutely love! imho, the best touring bike on the planet!
...well other than a 2018 GL1800 ;0)
I have a 19 plate DCT. Not done a long tour on it yet due to the restrictions. I do agree with you it's a great bit of engineering. I love it.
Just buy the damn thing, Andy! You know you want to ;)
Hi Andy... loved your video series on the Goldwing and it appears to be a superb machine . I drive a 2017 BMW K1600GTL myself and honestly you could apply a lot of what you said to my bike ... super smooth engine with very smooth gearshift blipper.heated seats and grips ,reverse gear etc...I must say the K1600 beats it on luggage capacity. Both superbly capable touring machines .
Agreed - although I found the last K1600 I rode a touch too top heavy for me....the GW holds it's weight much lower and hence is easier for a wimpy guy like me to move around....
They are heavy beasts ok... but I have been riding K model BMW ‘s a long time now so I suppose it is a matter of what you are familiar and comfortable with ... I am not exactly large myself but don’t find them overly intimidating!!!
But I can see myself downsizing in the next few years ...
So maybe Andy ... you might try out the new Multistrada V4s....it looks appealing...
If you get one of these I'm assuming there's no need to switch out the exhaust, install a tail-tidy, buy a different wind screen, an aftermarket seat, and probably several other more minor items. So even though it's expensive, it's not as bad as you think. I only wish someone would make a version with an 800cc to 1000cc engine that was also lighter and less expensive.
Yes this si one bike you don't need to mess with - perfect as stock for the intended purpose....
Have you had any issues with the pegs scraping on bends? I have a GL1800 that’s 10yrs old and I keep scraping the pegs. Interested because I may upgrade to the DCT.
Nope, not scraped them yet and you can be quite aggressive on this bike....
If you compare the price to other bikes in the same class and intended purpose, it really isn't that expensive. I bought my 2018 DCT Tour November 2019 for just about $23k. I traded my 2015 Harley Ultra Classic, and have absolutely no regrets at all! By the way, blue is the best color!
Wow - Goldwings are so much cheaper in the US!
I understand that for 2021 they have increased the top box (trunk) to 61 litres, improved the seat and sound system.
Yes I saw that today too - good move on the top box front, not so sure there was anything wrong with the seat or sound system but good on 'em for incrementally making improvements (on what is an incredible machine)...
I think the top box was a deal breaker for a lot of owners of the old model. I think most of the seat improvements are to the passenger back rest.
Honda were kind enough to lend me the previous evaluation machine some time ago, and a local dealer was keen to lend me their latest dct. Our thoughts are that both bikes are top tourers, equally comfortable. The dct is surprisingly good, and I was dead against the idea of an auto box before riding it! The price of the current bike is huge, eye watering, but we would have chopped our ST1300 in for a new Wing but for two insurmountable (for us) problems. 1. You cannot store even one full-face helmet on the bike, let alone two - you can get two in a Pan top box, or one in each of the panniers. 2. The build quality is not as good as the previous model, and the year old demonstrator was already rusting, which is very, very un-Honda like - my 200k mile Pan is rust free apart from a bit of corrosion to the downpipes, and the bike's used all year round. The Wing is still the best touring bike on the planet!
I absolutely love the Gold Wing but alas it is well and truly out of my price range. I'll just have to stick with my 2003 CB1300, which I love as well. 🇬🇧 🏴 🇬🇧🏴 🇬🇧 🏴
If you love it, stick with it!
My 2018 Gold Wing is the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I did have a 2013 F6B Gold Wing thinking that the stripped down version of the old wing would be what I was after. While it was okay it wasn't quite what I was looking for. The 2018+ Gold Wing is.
Great summing up.
Personally I prefer the look of the bagger version, but if a passenger is likely then obvs yours is the bizz.
Now, if those nice people at Honda have lent Richy V a long term Africa Twin then I’m sure they could see their way to providing you with the Gold Wing for a wee bit longer 😉
I'm certainly hoping so!
Went in to my dealer in Brisbane yesterday to buy some oil. Standing next to a Goldwing talking to a salesman. He told me that an 85 year old man purchased the Goldwing yesterday. I am 76 , and thought that my riding days may be close to being over. I rode out of there " on a cloud" feeling 25 again.
Good on you old mate whoever you are, got to go of something. Bloody site better than being in a Nursing home.
Too true! Never too old and all that....
I used to commute into central London 18 years ago on my GS ADV no trouble before all the madness going on in London under Mayor Khan, It would be impossible now the mayor has made most roads single lane with cycle super highways, pedestrian barriers in the road & metal poles narrowing roads & also closing bridges across the Thames causing grid locks. Even the scooterists are finding it difficult to filter in London traffic now let alone a Goldwing
Crazy isn't it....
I'm not sure I'd agree with not being able to filter on "big bikes". Yes in the confines of town traffic they aren't as nimble as smaller bikes, (but then tourers aren't usually an alternative choice to a smaller bike anyway) but easing past queues on clogged motorways isn't much different, the widest part of most bikes is the bars and few bikes are much wider than standard handlebars. I've filtered on the M25 (who hasn't!) as well as other UK and European motorways on various RT's and a K1600GT, with pillion,, and it's more down to bike handling than the actual bike.
Yes indeed - depends on the size of the rod for sure!
That's the first real experience i've had with a Gold Wing. Really enjoyed what i seen and learned. Beautiful machines. Thanks mate.
My pleasure!
Ive always liked this beautiful machine and sad you’re returning it too as loved following your adventures on it, it just hums along. I had an op yesterday so recovering in bed at the moment so I’m watching all my favourite lads (and lasses) so keep em coming please, fab video mate. As always kind regards.
Hope it wasn't anything too serious Beans - hope you get back out on bike again soon!
Just a hernia mate
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I loved it at 5m10sec when he talking about the bike being a hooligan in sports mode, he passes a Marked Police Car in the opposite carriageway. 😂🤣
Oops!
On the plus side. You are getting the opportunity of a lifetime to compare this back to back with your new toy coming from BMW ❤
....sadly delayed......
@@TheMissendenFlyer unlucky mate. Hopefully after your lockdown then. Goodluck and stay safe🙏🏻
Love my goldwing. Definitely surprised a few people once im on my game and into the twisties
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Swapped my GS for one of these in September and yep I agree. There is an issue with the navigation in that planning a customised route on the fly is difficult if not impossible at present hopefully an App will come out soon that Apple CarPlay compatible but Honda should have sorted this before release.
At present I’m thinking of getting another smaller bike as commuter runaround, possibly a used CB500X but we will see.
Why don’t you p/ex your GS for a Goldwing, you don’t use your GS off road so as you like the Goldwing so much it may make sense??
Is there anything you miss about the GS Daryl??
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That’s a good question 🤔
I’ve owned different BMW Boxers for 20 years, so I suspect that just because I am so used to them I miss the Boxer grinding drumming away BUT then I would definitely miss that Flat 6 , it’s in another league to any other bike I’ve ridden (including the K1600 which I think is a bit of a tart compared to the flat 6)
Luggage capacity miss that, but next year I am getting the rack fitted with a luggage roll (£800!!!!) so that sorts that.
Frankly for 2 up touring it’s the poodles privates and my wife was clear from the moment we test ride it she would only go touring again on a Goldwing, so no I don’t miss much and now plus the added benefit is that I can now justify to SWBO why I need another bike 😬
Nice and as comfortable as it is, I would rather do the same ride on a smaller bike and achieve the same results and yet would be more cost effective and self gratifying, I think. In other words, it's a "I want" vs. "I need" comparison. Thanks for the ride along!
Epitome of Honda engineering and agree it is a fabulous touring machine; however my tours typically include primitive/in-paved roads and without pillion. Thus too heavy and narrowly focused for my riding.
Indeed - it does have a specific use case for sure (2 up touring on decent roads)....
The 1800 'Wing is a great bike and definitely on my aspirational list. I have a 1500 'Wing I have owned since new in 2000 and think it needs a big sister to keep it company - Maybe 2021 will see that dream come true....
Good choice!
There is only one - the BMW K1600. Your review convinced me to try and then buy one. You can fit helmets in the panniers too!
Well it's another option for sure - for me the Honda holds its weight much lower and is therefore much more manageable as a big bike (especially as I'm quite a small fella)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Indeed; we ride what suits. I daren't test this just in case the Mrs likes it more than the K and inflicts serious wallet damage. FWIW you were spot on about the K - I really like it. Keep up the good work.
Agreed.. filtering may be questionable but otherwise is docile and manageable in daily commuting.
Have gone around the Parifiq? Around Paris loads of times and cannot believe how fast Goldwinds filter there, absolutely incredible, I'm on a Triumph Trophy and am not slow, but Parisians are another breed!!
Nice ride out, you went past my old house near Penn pond 👍
Brilliant!
Do you think filtering issues are mind over matter? My GSA handle bars are 55mm wider than the Gold Wing.
Yes quite probably....the more you ride the GW the more confident you get (obvs!)....
yes, i had one of these and had to sell it due to a down turn in finances. Great bike. I now own a GSA and a Triumph speed twin 1200
Which has the best suspension..new Gold Wing or BMW tourers?
imagine if they did it in purple with gold wheels! :P i really like the look and that dash position, looks great. I guess the GS has got to go?