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Can The Intel i9 12900k Be Air-Cooled? 🤔
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Trying to figure out if the Intel 12900k can be aircooled? Testing loads of different budget coolers as well as a 240mm AIO.
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0:00 Intro
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1:06 How We're testing?
1:22 24$ BeQuiet Pure Rock Slim 2 [Test]
2:22 45$ ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO [Test]
4:25 80$ NOCTUA NH-U14s [Test]
6:54 90$ BeQuiet Dark Rock TF2 [Test]
8:34 95$ BeQuiet Pure Loop 240mm [Test]
10:22 Conclusion: Can the 12900k be Air-cooled then?
Which Cooler would you pair with the 12900k? 🤔
Always a Noctua for all air cooling. You can't go wrong with a trusty Noctua.
Spending £500+ on a cpu logically requires 20% of the cpu budget on a cooler; So around £100+ mark to be safe = Noctua NH-D15 Chromaxx (dual tower), two fan cooler; Arctic Freezer 2 280MM/360mm AIO; MSI Core liquid C280; EK AIO 360 D-RGB 360mm; etc. That being said, I didn't expect the Arctic freezer 34 e-sports cooler to do that well, GG to Arctic.
I got a combination of a well ventilated case, a Fractal Torrent, and a Noctua D15S for my i9-12900K and I've been running it hard in VR. I'm getting CPU 40C and GPU 60C. I've had a couple Noctua D15 cooler''s in other computers including an i9-9900K and they've done very well.
Any chance you can do a comparison b/w the MSI Creation Prestige vs. the ASUS Creator Board X570s?
System stability and all.
corsair xc7
I don't mean to be rude, but not including NH-D15 in the test makes it pointless. It is the best air cooler and should always be used as a representation of the air cooling side. I really hope you make one more video just showing how the NH-D15 performs with the 12900K
+ dark rock pro and deepcool - what beats even Noctua (just sound like jet ;p)
+1
If he's going to be that thorough, he ought to have noise measurements as well.
it overheats in about 10 sec, 100 deg c here
@@billx4266 what's your ambient/room temperature, your case, how many fans do you have?
If you disable the back fan without removing it, it is a big airflow obstruction.
Noctua nh-d15 chromax Black be cool👍
would have been amazing video if you tested air cooling classics such as nhd15 or darkrock pro 4 on open bench and later in a case to see the real results. It was interesting, fun video but it could have so much more useful info for potential 12900k buyers.
When I first installed my 12700k I was getting 230-240w and was hitting 96° in cinebench r23 in stock configuration on a Arctic liquid 360mm. I was using a rigged 212 evo backplate/standoff setup (which actually sits lower at 12mm instead of 13mm on the lga 1700 mount) I just figured it ran hot. Turns out the high wattage was being caused by insufficient cooling due to improper seating. Once I installed the lga 1700 mounting system (after 2 months of waiting for it to arrive) my temps are 70° max (10 minute run) and my wattage doesn’t break 200 with all power limits removed and running at sustained 4.8Ghz turbo.
Yeah the mounting pressure & CPU contact matters a lot for cooling.
Man, my i9 12900k is hitting 100 degrees instantly as soon as I start the benchmarch on Cinebench. I noticed that the power usage is passing 275w. I'm using a MSI Coreliquid 240R V2. Stock settings. What do you think might be happening?
Hi, great video! What open air PC case is that, the aluminum test bench, looks great! Do you recommend such open case?
Extremely entertaining format in you video.
Hi, I am quite confused why Noctua NH-D15 (either version) was not included, but I would be more interested in testing i7-12700k, after all, if you can afford i9-12900k, the cost of sufficient cooling should not be an issue, if yes, then you should go to i7 with better cooler, I think, it should give you better performance then.
Interesting point!
@@theTechNotice yes please do the D15
@SharQ Well said! However, you don't actually need that boosting potential an aio would give in gaming with the 12900k, as it is actually cool during gaming. You can easily have a stable 5.1ghz in games. 12900k gets hotter in heavy multi core operations, but in gaming it shows impressively cool performance. D15 also has great headroom on the 129000k according to Noctua's compatibility chart.
It seems like a random mix of coolers with no real rhyme or reason. For both Noctua and Dark Rock, the coolers chosen are their weaker/slimmer designs rather than the "flagship" high performance air coolers.
The likes of the Noctua D15 or the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro (instead of the TF2) are actually designed to be high performance air coolers with enough performance to handle power hungry processors and/or serious overclocking. It would have made much more sense to test THAT class of coolers instead of random entry level ones with an i9.
Main thing is that the i9 doesn't really bring anything more for gaming over the i7, it only has 4 extra little cores(those help for heavy multithread load, 80% of games can't even use 8 cores properly)
If you want you can OC the i7 to 5ghz and you will get same gaming performance as with the i9.
You should really check out the Scythe Fuma 2. It is $55, is only 155mm in height (so it can fit in all cases basically, unlike Noctua DH15), and it performs as good as Noctua DH15 (almost, like 1-2 degrees difference)
thanks for the video, I bought a Noctua NH-U14S and NM-i17xx-MP78 (LGA1700 mounting kit) for my upcoming 12600K build.
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That was VERY useful information, thank you.
Very informational, thanks!
Still figuring out which Mobo would suit my needs the best to upgrade to Alder Lake. They all seem to have something wrong or missing. But when I do I want the quietest solution possible. This means no fans above 1000rpm. On a 12600k do you think an Arctic LFII 280 would do it? (my case is super well ventilated)
Thank you so much for this great review! 🙌
Arctic, always a pleasure! :)
Have a look at this: czcams.com/video/mnyOlQxZjsE/video.html
Good video, one thing you did not do was put the setup in a case, which will make a big difference. if you revisit this again do with an aio and have a temp sensor on the water. That would be a fun watch
WOW! I own U14S (on threadripper), but since it looks so small and weak i ordered Freezer II 280 for my new 12900K instead.
Maybe I didn't have to. Noctua is really killin it.
Great and super useful video.
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Is the Freezer II 280 enough? I think someone on CZcams is REACHING ABOVE 100°C with the 420mm Freezer II.
@@TheftTv oh my... thats insane! i will know in a week or so, when all of the components arrive. Although, even Freezer 240 is performing in benchmarks better than Noctua D15 for example, so theoretically it would have to be enough. We'll see
yeah just bought one for my 12700k build in a corsair 220t case so hopefully temps will be good enough. Im also gonna slap a extra fan on the back to help it out. What do u think
@@TheftTv I can confirm that freezer II 280 works great with 12900k! Keeps it under 85c with all night rendering. Everything default, 5.1ghz max.
me looking at my freezer 34 esports duo: good job you!
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according to " noctua compatibility centre " a nh-d9l air cooler ( only 11 cm high ! ) can cool a i9-12900k with max room for boost and overclocking . It is a lot smaller than other cooler that can do the job . Is this really possible ? Can you test it ?
I went with watercooling. 12900K just running Asus auto OC @ 68% and seems to be peaking around 80°. It definitely jumps quickly though from its idle 30° to that 80°. These temps are overly high still IMO, definitely would investigate custom higher quality water blocks in the future, the corsair one I got could be better at transferring heat.
I hate the idea of water cooling though. All it takes is one leak then you have to plan your pc's funeral.
hi, does the arctic 34 sports duo include the 1700 kit mounting out of the box ? i was planning to get one for an i5
OMG dude, I have the same thermometer on a white desk. Similar setup like yours. Absolutely mind-blowing!
Nice. thanks for the test.
I am curious how it would look with a cheap(ish) aio radiator with noctua fans(which you can buy separately from the dh-series coolers)-I have installed quite a few of them in various systems, and find they are often able to reduce the temp inside the system by up to 10 deg(C)(Compared to cheap-ish default 140mm fans)
i have a question well two would a i9 12900k be good for rendering and recording videos at 720p 60fps and im looking to reuse my nh-d14 cooler
Remember that open test bench always will have higher temps than good ventilated PC Case - its normal. I have 3 push, 3 pull 120mm in case.. and on both CPU coolers what i had temps were much lower than in any test with same CPU.
And yes it can be - without testing DRP4, Noctua 15, Deepcool AIII - im more than sure, that they will handle with that.
I'd be curious how these air coolers do in a case vs an open test bench
Indeed, testing with open air test bench is pretty useless because that's not how people use computers
Exactly! Also, even if they perform well inside a case, the situation will be very different once you have your GPU blowing additional 300W of heat from below.
Conscientious testing done in a specific case, built with specific components along with how the build was finished for testing, suffers an increasing lose of credibility, as the comparing build deviates more.
The best thing I like about my 3700x is the 65 watt tdp . I still remember my Phenom 2 space heater cpu .
open test bench is ok for comparing cooling systems, watch ones perform well in a case?
Very well done, thank you for posting this.. The one factor I could not find in your list or comments below, what Thermal paste did you use?
I think noctua h1
@@theTechNotice Thanks I have some of that and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme
Can NH-D15 handle with i7 12700k? Or should I choose any liquid cooler? I use this pc for game and render.
i have 12900ks with NH-D15 fan. brilliant setup, high performance, very easy installation
as transistors heat up they leak more current, which is probably why you're seeing more power usage at temp limit. on the other hand, running chips cooler also helps with stability, which means that there's a bit more undervolting potential, resulting in even less power usage
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at 3:40 you say, it's running at 93 94 and it's still not throttling. It's still 4.9Ghz
Erm, 4.9Ghz IS throttled. Down from 5.2Ghz
How do I check if the cpu coolers will have the correct clearance to attack to the mobo I just bought the I-7 12700k and a Rog strix z690-e motherboard I don’t know if the Noctua nh-d15 fan or the dark rock pro 4 will fit any ideas would be appreciated.
Your video is very specific and useful much better than PC build video
hello, i have the i5 11400 and case lian li razer o11, i want an air cooler but 011 specs says 155mm hight, be quiet pure rock 2 is 155mm should it fits? or should i go pure rock slim 2 i the slim enough? thank you
The Be Quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 - is the cooler I use on i3s and i5s.. its not that they really need an aftermarket solution(although you will get better temps) its so your build looks the coolerest!
My 12900K is on 5.1 all core (5.5 2 cores, 5.4 4 cores, 5.3 7 cores, ring & ecore at 4.1) on a NH-D15 for the moment, no problem at all with the cooling with Ambient temp at 18C (winter temp 😁)
It is in an open air bench as of now & sitting in the "air pushing to gpu" position (the vrm heatsink of the strix A D4 doesnt allow it to sit on the normal position) with the standard LGA-115X bracket.
Was this with DDR5 or DDR4? And XMP off or on? CPU temp is 10 degrees higher with XMP on.
Interesting test idea :)
Thank you for the video. Didn't expect such a bad result from dark rock tf. Wanted to buy this cooler in cooler master nr200 for 12600 or 12700 without overclocking. But it looks like he will not cope with them either.
The dark rock will be fine for them I think because this i9 takes 240-250W while i7 takes 180W and i5 120W at most.
The dark rock TF 2 is strange... it works differently from other cpu fans, it does not extract the airflow but absorbs it... many users install it wrong but from the same page they explain how it works... for this reason it also depends a lot on the chassis fans.
The BeQuiet Aio would runs quietly if you are insulating the vibration with rabberdampeners (on the fans).
I’m quite interested to see this test with different all in one liquid coolers, as I’ve bought a 12900k myself paired with a lian li galahad 360mm with a lga 1700 mounting bracket for that cooler. I have similar clock speeds and wattage in this video and it heats up to 100c in a first single cinebench run in no time, it’s not my case cause it’s a phantek’s enthoo 719 with 9 fans. So I’m trying to figure out if this is a aio issue or something else possibly, cooling test info is pretty limited currently for i9 12th gen and this would be really helpful!
Same here, got i7 12700k and i9 12900k both goes 100c directly in cin r20
i7 on 240mm AIO i9 360aio
Wow I'm a bit surprised it gets to 100c with all of those fans! I wonder if using 140mm case fans or 140mm high speed exhaust fans would help? Maybe push pull configuration on the radiator?
update bios was being funny and setting the pump to pwm and not dc world of a difference
What would you recommend for i12700f cpu? 3060ti card.
The only air cooler I'm even considering purchasing for my i9 12900K would be the Noctua NH-D15 but sadly every place here in Canada is out of stock at the moment. For water coolers I've been looking at either Aorus Waterforce X 360 AIO or the NXZT Kraken Z73. MSI has the MEG CORELIQUID S360 which is LGA1700 compatible right out of the box. All these coolers are super pricey however and in short supply atleast here. If you have an i5 or i7 you can probably get away with a 280mm AIO but for the i9 I'm definitely gonna go with 360mm fans.
Check amazon. I just ordered my NH-D15 from them 3 days ago
Lol air cooling an I9 12th gen? Are you trying to give your cpu an early death. Water is the only sensible way to go and don't get the kraken. Get the artic freezer ii aio. Its the best aio
Thank you sir. Bravo NOCTUA!!
Since I will be building on the i9-12900K, what is THE BEST cooler? Do a video on this please! This is simply the BEST channel for DIY builders.
You manage to come up with the most interesting video ideas! I would probably use the largest Noctua that would fit in my case. Black fans a must, though.
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my 12700K runs on the Noctua NH-D9L (single fan), that I took from my 6700K. With room temperature at 20° C, the cores run between 27°C and 33°C, with the center core 4 at 41°C, when running 4k120hz. When I switch to 8K60hz, temps go up to 31°C-35°C, with center core 4 hitting 49°C and 5 at 45°C. Much less than I expected and not even under-volted.
Great video. You deserve more views
is the ml240 as good as the pure loop?
Thanks for sharing 👌
Dear dude. Could you try noctoa c14s cryrig c1 and Raijintek Pallas both are 140 cooler, test them with stock fans, then phanteks 30 artic pmw and noctoa 2000rpm and 3000rpm pmw. Thanks in advance very much. Appreciate your work.
Hello !!!
I know Dark Rock TF2 is not the best but ..... do you think it can cool a 12600K with (no OC) without restriction ? because my case can't accept more than 148 mm hight cooler ......
as other people in the comments I have a couple of requests XD but doesn't include the NH-D15. There are two budget coolers that I've been using and I consider it will be interesting for you to consider: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 (starts in $36usd and go to $54usd with rgb) and Vetroo V5 ($35usd)
The peerless assassin is a budget beast
What is the fastest CPU that you would recommend air cooling given no price restriction on the cooler?
Core i9-12900k if cooled by a good air cooler watch air cooling vs water cooling by Linus tech tips
Would love to see a sub 150mm shootout with that CPU, for those with height limitations...Thermalright Assassin King 120 SE vs Noctua NH-D12L vs Thermalright Silver Soul 135. Thanks!
Would the Ice Giant ProSiphon Elite fit?
Do you think i should buy a cpu cooler for my i5 10400 or should i stay with the default one?
There's Arctic 35i coolers for 30-40$ out there, your temps will be waay better
someone pls. help
Do you know, if I can use a (air)Thermalright Macho Rev.B cooler on a 12900 kf whit out overheating cpu?
have you control the CPU is not bending ?
Please do I9 12900k test with noctua nh-d15 chromax Black air cooler.
why didnt you add a 360mm aio also to compare?
It would be very cool another video about air-cooling the 12900ks
I’m ngl I give this props considering my acer nitro 5 laptop with a intel core 9th gen i5-9300H runs at almost 90° C sometimes on a standard cooler idk if it’s stock or not but it’s a ninth gen intel
Why does my CPUID HWMonitor (Latest Version) not show the individual temps for the cores, I only get the Package Temp (Node 0) which is 74C Max on my Dark Rock Pro 2 with 5900x when running CB23, Very Odd
Yeah, I've had that issue as well, not sure TBH...
From where you get mounting kit lga1700 for pure rock 2 slim ?
From Bequiet!
I would like to see the 12900k on the fuma 2 revB. i have this on an 11900k and at 5ghz @ 1.22v all core pulling 170w it never goes above 70°C in 22°C ambient. The biggest hold back was the fans. I paired it in a nr200p with a Noctua NF-A12x15 and NF-A12x25 set to 1500rpm at max load. My guess is at 240w there would be a Δ of 71°C. Id love to see it for the science. maybe do a SFF dual tower air cooler shootout on the 12900k.
Please budget cooler for i9-12900k , idcooling se 224 xt dual fan, deepcool ak620 fan, deepcool l240v2, idcooling 360 auraflow 69usd
Am I crazy to pair the Noctua NH-U12A with an i9 13900K? I’m doing Premiere AE and resolve, and Puget Systems is recommending that pairing. I haven’t assembled yet but I’m worried I made the wrong move, any input is appreciated, thanks!
Did you finish this set up? I am thinking of going with the same route.
I just built a 12900k rig and paired with a cm hyper 212 air cooler, keeps it around 70c under extended load.. I’m honestly shocked how well it’s working
Huh, I'm trying to plan out my rig's components and my first plan was using an 12900F with a CM Hyper 212. This comment makes me feel somewhat better about that haha
wtf, is your hyper 212 boost in steroid? I have à 5800x with hyper212 and i run cinebench at 90 degrees and 135w output lol. But i have only one fan on it, a be quiet silent wing 3.
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Why is the 12900k base clock at 3.2ghz and the 12900f at 2.4ghz?
Also, why is the e-core base clock 2.4ghz vs 1.8ghz?
Are the core parts different or are you using a different type of core?
Scythe mugen 5 rgb and scythe fuma 2 is compatible with 12400f? socket 1700?
Have to make sure you get the proper mounting hardware.
will arctic freezer 34 handle i7 11700k stock?
May i know which program you use to check the temps and voltage
Hwinfo64 or hwmonitor
Hey this is praveen from India..
Arctic freezer e34 is undersized for i7 12700k.. can I buy it?? Please suggest me..
i think you guys must use the thermalright bracket and the temp will be nicer.
as other users have mentioned, please test the D15. Thank you :)
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could you do the test with nh d15 and dark rock pro 4?
Should be interesting with the best peformance cooler you had, to do the same test in a popular middle case.
i’m so glad i can reuse my NH U14S!
I’m probably overthinking it but i’m not sure if the old “pea sized dot of thermal paste in the middle” tradition is still best here since these chips are now rectangular instead of a square. Anyone have any input on this?
I always go for 'better more than less' application ;)
Noctua have videos on thermal paste patterns for most CPUs on their CZcams channel. Following their suggestions definitely made a difference IMHO.
@@weescamp when i ordered the LGA1700 adapter it came with a pamplet showing the best pattern for the new socket which was neat. I did go with it and I'm very happy with it.
@@Evansmustard glad to hear it. Enjoy your new system.
I surly thought once you installed the 3rd cooler your shirt would be coming off.
Hey brother ,
I'm from india
I have to buy a good laptop for VIDEO Editing/color grading ( using premiere Pro) long term use but my budget max to max is $1532.25 (1.15 lakh rupees)
Can you please suggest me one of the best laptop in your opinion .. In my budget
everybody told me it would be impossible to air cool a 9900kf when it released especially in a midi tower however its running fine for almost 2 years now with the same cheapest air cooler you showed in the video peaking at around 89 degrees
Can you please try the Noctua NH D15? With the i9
The test was on open air. If you put the devices into a computer case the temperature will noticeable increase by 5C or 10C.
Yes indeed!
I wonder how hot the i9 would run if you unlid it and change the inside paste
Great info, thank you. I'd go with the NH-D15 double fan but it's probably too large for my HTPC cases.
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When you turn of second fan you should also remove it. Turned off fan cause air resistance on back side of radiator.
Can the Arctic cooler run 11700k ?
can 12gen runs all cores at same clock HT off? 👍
I have a nh-d15 and and I can't stop i5 13600k from thermal throttling. I must have done something wrong
best cooler for i7 13700K?
I have an asus tuf z690-plus-wifi d4 with an i7 12700k and 32gb g.skill 4400 c19. After update bios to 0707 with the same watercooler my cpu dont pass 47 c. The memory and bios update change all my system. This cpu works well if memory is up to 4000mhz (ddr4). With my 3600mhz kit i reached easily 80 c. You can investigate this.
Can you please tell how did you update your bios? I have the same motherboard and dont know how to do it
A builder in my country uses Jonsbo CR 1200 for 12900. It's like half the size of these coolers.
I was wondering if you had undervolted this 12900k on this test? Other sources say and almost all that even noctua NH-d15 can't save this from throtte, users on reddit say the same. Can you re-stress the 12900k on your noctua NH-d15 on cb r23 for like half an hour.. fast forward? There's not a single such video available in CZcams. It'd be a massive help!!! Please do this
The bios has 3 Automatic options to throttle the watt. Stock cooler, air cooler and watercooler.. at air cooler option max Watt will be 240w. At watercooler it will be 4096w (which just means That there is no throttle)
@@lennobrady7955 what if we selected third option with slight Undervolt and 100-200mhz OC on noctua nh d15?
Will the temps be cooler?
Should've done the 240mm AIO with a push/pull setup
Why didn't you test noctua nh-d15?