Is Tekken Ranked Becoming Increasingly Toxic
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I’ll never get why it’s so hard to just show respect and share the passion for the game
"But you play akuma/geese you do not deserve respect" kek
I wish it was that way. But ppl have problems handling their ego and linking it to ranks as status
Ill never respect someone like you that plays hwoarang tho/s
Seriously tho im a huge fan of your hwoarang, your combos are actually insane especially with side walls
says the whoreang player
Insecurities and real life issues that reflect into a toxic personality. It’s in a lot of games lately.
I recently picked up the game and played a lot in a couple of months. Just yesterday I played a set of 11 matches against an absolutely obnoxious Armor King. I lost 10 games in a row, then I won the last match and he left. Even the 9th and 10th match were very close and I finally figured him out. It's really painful not being able to solidify my gained knowledge against that player I had trouble with. The next time I have to deal with a similar AK, I will have forgotten all I learned.
This is literally my same life bro! haha. Got Tekken around three months ago, fell in love with it - started to play online just wanting to get better at the game - it amazes me how people are literally doing this even in silver ranks. My theory is that as I get better my rank will just naturally reflect that, but I worry how long I will have to play so many people who only want to seem to constantly press buttons and do mad damage either through insane combos or throw strings because of this weird obsession with rank . It's a shame because Tekken is amazing when two players are on the same vibe.
It gets worse when you get paired against a low usage troll character like Lei or Kuma. Learn one matchup but there's 50 more to go. That is the appeal/flaw of the game. There is always something new to discover but it requires a lot of time, DLC money and patience of dealing with BS online play.
Be happy that he stayed until you finally won 😄 he might have done YOU a favor 😉
@romzen,
I understand.
Although you won't forget everything you've learned, but will always retain some experience.
Just fight the same character again, and again, and again, and eventually the forgotten experience will catch up quicker.
The same thing will be learnt more easily the 2nd time you figure it out.
And eventually the knowledge will stick when you find an honorable opponent.
Good. Get good or leave
I started playing tekken 7 about a month ago. And my ranked mentality is simply:
If i dont know how to deal with a mashing Josie, its my fault.
If i don’t know how to deal with King chain grabs its my fault.
If the other player starts lagging, i leave the match and continue the grind for skill.
The most important part about improvement is staying humble and work on what YOU have control of and can change. I will not make my opponent’s behavior any excuse for anything whatsoever.
We finally found him, GIGACHAD
I respect that, wanna play? (Playstation)
You will become godlike in no time with that mentality
Thank you for the advise
How is it possible for someone this based to exist?
State-side the ruler and blue ranks seem to be of a higher caliber as of late. I also seem to encounter less toxicity. Maybe I’ve been lucky. Also, as for being demoted constantly, while never fun, it’s one of the best ways to get over ranked anxiety. Let the worst happen. Be demoted, even many times. Eventually you grow numb to it and realize any rank you achieved can always be earned back and maybe even become a better player in the process.
Exactly. You got the rank once, you'll get it again, and if you deserve it you'll keep it. And after a while you do get numb to it all. I remember feeling pretty emotional about reaching Genbu for the first time, but then feeling practically nothing when I reached Ruler.
Yup, and now I don't even notice when I'm being demoted until after the match lol. I used to try to play my very best, now I don't care and I do waaaay better.
My attitude. Also demotion means chance for some easier matches :D not always the case but most of the time it's true.
I can barely get rematches in the states while playing ranked. I am usually in red ranks, and last character I played was Heihachi, now Jack. Maybe those are considered irritating characters???
Excellent take 👍
People will hit you with a move once then try to only hit you with that move for the rest of the sets.
That used to be lucky chloes low to mid move back when i first started 😂
Which gets them killed by good players
low parries them.
them: NANI?!
''how did my ultimate 1 move strategy not work?''
FUCKING NEGAN. with that one grab where he runs his bat on your face
Literally Katharina with her 44444 shit. Can be punished only by sidestepping which beginners can’t do
Getting better is the goal, ranking up is the result
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09:30 exactly what I'm dealing with at lower ranks as a newcomer.
As soon as you adapt and take a match the opponent leaves or even plugs in some situations. Makes getting matchup experience tedious at times. People love their points even down in the blue ranks.
If you play a bullshit character less people will rematch after a win or lose
It’s somewhat difficult, I’ve felt this way but sometimes you’re also mid set and have to leave to do something, I usually try give a few games to everyone though
@@abramlittle7102 BS chars are the OP ones or the shitty ones?
@@7Andy77 every female in the game beside josie and Lydia. All 2d characters. Yoshi. Eddy. Bears. Lei. None of these characters fight straight up. There's too much awkwardness in their movement and or moveset which create too many instances of randomness. They break the game so I treated like a "hit and quit"
@@abramlittle7102 imagine not adapting. Those cheese filled chars are so easy to punish. since they usually abuse their strat. I saw a guy on an eddy who would spam relax moves, so i ended up stoping the shit out of him. Punish shit strats, learn and adapt and the game will be fun
I hate the toxicity, I try not to let it get to me but sometimes it brings me down and I just can't focus after it happens. The only time I'm ever toxic is if they're toxic first. Otherwise I treat my opponent with total love and respect, I don't even corpse hit at all.
I deleted the game for about a month because I was getting fatigued. Came back a few days ago and was fighting a guy who was basically my equal but when he won, he teabagged, ki charged, etc. We went a few times and after I started beating him, I did the same and he sent me hate. This thing happened with 4 different people in a row. It sucks.
That's been my experience any time playing ranked and it just genuinely doesn't make me wanna play with this obnoxious crap. I've had more fun playing tekken 6 ranked. Plenty of people still on ps3.
Definitely recommend using the mirror customization. Freezes ur opponent after KO. So no KO stomping or tea bagging.
Tekken needs to force Bo3 sets for ranked in Tekken 8. Its legitimately annoying to run into a character you don't fight often, get ran through a blender of knowledge checks, lose, and then they winquit or keep fighting you until you figuring them out and THEN they'll leave.
Well that’s exactly what’s happening. Tbh it should even be best to 5 honestly.
man, you're so right. i'm in purple ranks and it's pretty stressful. i think its all about the MIND. you need to go zen-mode and play like a robot without any emotions. i feel like self-doubt will make you lose the game, before the round starts. frustration about lost matches, will make you play worse. it's something i need to work on a lot. humans are ego driven beings... and in ranked you can really feel it.
Lowkey noticed how better I got at the game mentally after getting into meditation. Being able to go into zen mode is 100% right mentally for ranked.
Yeah I agree
I lost a lot as a kazuya and decided to have no emotion and basically play as honorable as possible and only have winning in my mind
I think people not rematching due to not wanting to lose points in ranked is a game design issue. "I'm in ranked to rank up therefore I won't rematch if I don't think I'll win" is shitty but it makes sense. They need to add a modifier for point gain that increases as you continue to rematch someone or something.
I think people shouldn't know when the opponent is on demotion or promotion, it would remove a lot of stress and cheesyness. Also the game would benefit A LOT having less characters (but that's impossible since they want to sell new dlcs and so on) and having less chees overall (even this is impossible, Tekken has always been cheesy especially if you don't know the macthup). The game is too stressful and the behaviour of the people who play it reflects the stress they encounter themselves playing it, it's just a toxic relationship lol
As someone who plays a variety of games, some with very shallow knowledge-checks like shallow FPS and whatnot, toxic players are everywhere, I think it is mostly cultural.
If u see player who want to promo u can use other cheesy tactics! And he will better vs your character in the future. And he really be promouted by you
I always plug when they are due a promotion
Only way to reduce cheese is having better movement and less tracking moves
@@lucastonoli3256 me too but in my opinion fg just hit different. It feels a lot more personal and stressing
Been playing Tekken since T2, but Tekken 7 was the first one I really tried to get good at. Last year I got to yellow ranks pretty easily after learning a few King combos and improving my whiff punishment. I went back to school to finish my degree and took a break from ranked. I stilled played, but only against my friends who are about as good as I am. School is winding down and I'm almost done so I decided to try to get back into Tekken. I hop on an I am getting absolutely smoked in the green ranks. My yellow ranked King got demoted nearly instantly and at one point I was just a few losses away from teal. At first I thought it was just rust, but nope some teal and green rank players have high damage combos, whiff punishment, strong throw breaks and are much harder to read. In some ways it's kind of exciting and inspiring me to improve even further. But all this said, its nice to know that it's not in my head. Ranked Tekken has moved the goal post.
Can't even play player matches without people disrespecting the hell out of you for literally no reason. Show some respect, we are playing the same game.
What kind of disrespect
@@abramlittle7102 constant ki charging, no cutscene skip (I get it if you leave it the first match. But after that skip them please, I wanna play the damn game). We've all seen the cutscenes 3000 times each. 1 and done, winquit, ragequit... big etc..
@@JonanTS
Lol it's just a game. Don't take key charge and teabagging so serious. Some people do it because noobs get triggered and tilted so play worse.
You can put on the magic mirror if ki charging makes you upset.
To deal with people who don't skip their cutscenes, I usually have some furry full package futanari pr0n in the background so I can just alt tab and watch that instead.
Only rematch if you win. Never rematch if you lose, that way you will never get win quit on 4head.
"I play a video game on the Internet, please respect me"
You the type of mofo I intentionally teabag just to get a funny reaction from
@@CosmicVoid420 I want to play the game. So I will never win quit or lose quit because I want to fight, learn and have fun.
If you lose/win/rage quit on player matches there is no excuse. You don't lose or win rank points, you're just a sore loser with a childlike mentality. (I'm talking in general not specifically you).
I shouldn't be obliged to get the damn magic mirror because some manchildren cant behave on a video game.
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but losing 20 times in a row isnt gonna help your learn a character matchup. It will only make you more salty and resent that character. Youre better off just leaving after between 4-6 losses rewatching those matches and labbing the character afterwards. Also sending that player a friend request to play matches is also a good idea.
that’s only the case if u get butthurt when u loose, it’s all about the attitude
@@kyotoclan5056 it doesnt have anything to do with being butthurt. There just is a limit to how much you are gonna learn playing against a character without labbing or reviewing your gameplay inbetween. Being salty ofcourse doesnt help but being calm during your 15th loss in a row is not gonna make the difference
It depends on your mentality atm. If you are being tilted, and play only to "get back at this fucker", than yeah. Your decision making and overall ability will only deteriorate as the set goes on. If you are having fun, than you are probably learning - coming up with new strategies, etc.
So yeah, leave as soon, as you start being tilted. It's fucking hard tho lol.
i agree with this. Honestly when i play Ranked, i will ONLY do 2 out of 3. If i enjoy playing against the opponent, i will do another 2 out of 3. When someone is being "toxic" (ki charging, t-bagging, etc.) i will usually leave after the first 2 out of 3. But i ALWAYS do at least 2 out of 3. Even if it is a frustrating character like Hwo or Lucky Chloe. Playing anymore than that especially after getting tilted is asking to lose rank or patience IMO.
Not true at all!, I play massively higher ranks than myself until they quit, because it teaches me that character and forces me to throw everything I’ve got at them, I’m a fighter rank feng among others and beat a TGP once, couldn’t believe it and I started doing much better against red ranks and up due to never quitting, if I stayed fighting green ranks I’d be a worse player now
i dont rematch if someone does not skip cinematics
Becoming Toxic? Where you been, It's been Toxic.
funny thing mms declines rematches if his opponent as downloaded him, bashes nina, kat, craig, leroy players all the time. then picks leroy and craig? hypocritical
Over the past two months I've run into a lot of players who clearly aren't technically sound, yet somehow manage to low-parry me 70% of the time. Very sus, and it being because of an external program makes a lot of sense.
14:34 "demoted demoted demoted" and at this exact moment in sync, the life of the geese on background being demoted too 😂
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Worst thing about ranked these days is the connection.
At the beginning of s4 it was good, but now even if i m fibered and play against another guy ,fibered too, who's one country away from me, we will have the worst lag spikes possible, leading to the biggest rmatch robberies ever.
And I don't feel that people come to have a good time or learn things (cause i m low rank but it wasn't like that before), you can feel the ego of these guys when you play them
thanks for sharing. not a lot of people talk about the toxic side of tekken when it comes to online. but i have to say offline i’ve met some of the nicest and down to earth people. “ we have focus on the goal and that’s to become better tekken players. “ love that ✊🏼
Getting teabagged really means nothing unless you give it meaning. All opponents are your training dummies. They are random people who are not in your living room, so don't let their bs come through your tv screen into your head.
And ranks are there only to give you opponents that are near your level.
If you have 3 main characters and one of them is Fujin, one is Byakko and one is Juggernaut, they all feel the same to play except you are more advanced with the Fujin character and you will notice you are enjoying the low ranks more because you don't stress about the rank.
And why would need to get higher and higher ranks quickly because it just means getting harder and harder enemies before you have built the skills for that character.
Rank is just a name and number, so why rage/get angry/throw your controller because a number.
The only loss in Tekken is to lose your cool.
Tekken has near endless amounts of things to learn, why not concentrate on enjoying the experience no matter what the rank.
@clxxd999 Yeah i struggled with it for 1.5 years before i learned to take it easy.
Just think about this next time you play:
Would you rather enjoy the game and forget about ranks and demotions and concentrating on learning one fundamental skill at a time with patience OR playing your (possibly) favorite game with only hate running through your veins caring about what letters are on top of your user name when you play and hating a random dude who keycharged. The more they teabag or spaz the less you need to care about them because they are only venting how bad they feel when playing Tekken and how scared they are to lose in the game. The bigger idiots they are the more they are literally training "dummies".
There are certain people I just wish I could block. At the very least, they need to implement a cool down period if you deny a rematch against someone. Leaving a match against a teabagging idiot and then getting matched against them again over and over is just ridiculous. There needs to be a cool down timer, maybe let us decide how long, when we refuse a rematch.
thing is, any community will grow more toxic as its community grows. Too many different people with different ways of thinking. And if its a competitive game, any type of rank or whatever will be seen as prestige and there will be always people that will want the easy way to that prestige
that's a weird way to tell everyone you haven't played many online video games but ok!
@@After9waves dafuq r u on? This is exactly how it plays out.
yup. Believe it or not League was a nice place when it wasn't popular, way back in beta.
I'd rather not speculate on it too much as it just breeds cynicism.
My friend had a saying to describe this: "too popular for it's own good"
yep, more people = more possibility of toxicity
@@williamseipp9691 Having switched to Dota from League, surprisingly it is less toxic. Every game I get some retard who loves to question mark ping someone else doing fine if not pretty well after their obvious missplay (a symptom of insecurity, smol pp and not having been loved as a child). You still get that in Dota but I find it a lot less as Dota requires more brain cells and a bigger pp to play.
Picked up Tekken 7 when it was on sale during the last EVO. It just feels so wrong to me that I had to spend most of my play time to reach Green ranks with Jin while I messed around with Alisa and got to Brawler in one sitting.
nah it makes perfect sense. cheese moves will get you so far but then once you're at a point where people can deal with it, you are left with nothing because you didn't have to polish your fundamentals up until that point. green ranks is still very low rank, and i say this as a yellow rank myself. i started tekken 7 with kunimitsu as she looked very cool visually, but then i realised im just cheesing opponents into wins, which was less rewarding for me because i want to feel like im actually improving in the fundamentals. i've been an armor king main ever since and the journey was much harder but ultimately more rewarding. i think maybe around red rank and up people will start to actually know the matchup.
i think itd be cool if there was an option to play ranked, but you can disable all the indicators for it.
like i prefer fighting people on my rank vs player match where its anyone. but i dont want to see all that stuff regarding rank. how much i have left to reach next rank etc.
that way i can just play as if its player match and not worry about all that stuff, have fun rank up without even knowing it. or demote without even knowing it, but atleast i can focus on learning, or just wins and loss.
I thought the exact same thing the other day. That would be great 👍😊
_This is why I stay on Quick Matches._
Dude I used to do the same but even there I'd get people Ki-Charging and rage quitting. I only ever play the game when a friend is up for a session nowadays..
quick match is boring and there is a lot of weirdos on there
@@luciano4201 True, but I often find way more people willing to rematch and stay for awhile. There's no stress over ranks, even though many players still can't accept losses._ 😂
i honestly dont like quick matches since i do feel like the players there dont play at 100%.
I'm at a low rank (Marauder) and I didn't play ranked in more than a year. It just gives me so much anxiety. I am a person that just can't do well with stress of any kind. I get headaches and my mood changes. So I said farewell to ranked and I am enjoying normal matches since then. I just don't like losing rank. It makes me really sad and makes me hate myself. It is definitely a "me" problem and I don't blame anything else. But I'm working on it.
Except for the headaches. I can relate 100%.
It's not just in rank. In Quick match is also like that like people suddenly rage quit/disconnected because they don't want their winning streak come to an end by someone and it disgust me
I used to be unemployed and depressed and played league all day and I felt the same way about fighting games, I just wanted to rank up, I had nothing else happening in my life so it became obsessive, I stopped enjoying the games because I was losing and only wanted to win
I’m doing better now but there’s undoubtedly people in similar situations, just need to learn to ignore them
Damn I never thought about that. I'm an optimistic/positive person. I've had times were tekken was all I had, but the game has always been fun to me win or lose so I was always grateful to be able to play it at all. It got me through hard times, I'm glad I didn't base my self worth off my rank though.. That's crazy.
Dude that must be it
Few things I hate:
1)People who intentionally never skip intro and poses to annoy.
2) ki chargers
3) People who leave after one win ( after losing a bunch to you),
4) 3 bar hellsweepers
5) People who presses forward the whole round after losing a match or two (basically being a bit*h)
6) People who leave after a win ( yes, I lost but let me play you a few more times so that I beat you or just to learn or just so that I can enjoy the game ).
Bro I wanna look at lidia's intro katas 😅
hey so i’m going to be trying tekken out today actually, the fact that you posted this video i needed it thanks 🔥
Managed to achieve Fujin rank last week but it was not a fun experience getting there. Every other character I was facing was Lei, Zafina, Eddy and Marduk. Retiring now until T8 hits.
If you run into those characters don’t be afraid to do longer sets and learn the matchup
I hate fighting those characters as well, throw in Hwoarang, Law, and Kunimitsu to that list, at least for me, lol.
Interesting for me as someone who is essentially brand new to Tekken, I recently got one of the new victrix sticks and I'm super enjoying Tekken, still figuring out a character and all that. Hope once I get into online it's not too bad!
You got this 👍
Great video mainMan , im working hard to perfect my gameplay with dvj and its not easy since he have hunga bunga players its one of those were if i dont know the matchup il just punish
There's another problem with Nostalgia tying into people's salt because they thought they were so good when they were a kid so when they get online they continuously harp on that memory of beating their little brother or friend from down the street
Started playing for the first time yesterday, (I thought Jin was cool so I'm trying him) ran into a King who t-bagged after every failed throw escape (I do not know how to escape King.) It wasn't very fun but I have a neanderthal rematch philosophy where I keep playing until I can win and as soon as I finally after going like 0-10 was about to win he plugged. I've played DBFZ for a long time (ragequit was and probably still is a HUGE problem in that game) so I'm used to it but honestly I just wanted to see that 1st DAN bar go up by a couple pixels man 😭
godspeed sir. Jin is absolute hell to start out with but it will pay off. you will always have a strong character that can handle any situation
Jin is a good choice. Keep at it friend. On youtube there are tons of tips and stuff, just takes time.
Stick with it, people may hate you once you get the hang of him, but it's just jealousy. Us Jin mains are just better than the rest lol
for real though, I started out with Jin too, he's exceptionally good. A lot of things can be kind of difficult, like zen cancels or consistent electrics, but like Michael said, he can handle every situation so well.
I found Eddy Wang's (channel name is Damage Xcailing I believe) Jin tutorials to be helpful in determining what to practice, and Devilster to see the truly messed up things the character can do to opponents once you
A S C E N D
lol
I like to think of ranks as battle tokens that allow you to play certain levels of players
It's interesting to see where this does and doesn't line up with my experiences in red rank. I've definitely seen the base skill for my rank go up a lot since getting back into the game, and strings that used to be very reliable are now frequently and severely punished. Peoples combo efficiency with level specific high damage combos seems much higher.
I still get plenty of people ready and willing to do very long sets though, and it's those death matches that make the game worth playing
I consider myself a beginner and and just picked up the game again and got into red rank for now. Imo red has quite a few people who start playing a new character and already aquired some character knowledge from the higher ranks. Their fundamentals are on a different level than red ranks. The people who are actually "true" red players (usually 300ish hours of gametime) still feel very underwhelming and are pretty much clueless. To not sound cocky i happily include myself there. They can't block, can't backdash, can't blockpunish, can't wiff punish, absolutely can't break throws, mostly start spamming their shit because it's easier to do than pay attention to your opponent and counter it. And i won't blame them for playing like that because oh boy is it hard to remember the stuff and execute it. I have a high rank friend who watches and gives me tips and when he says stuff "you counter that by ducking the moment you see her sidestep" (Kunimitsu SS4 spam) i'm like, "i'm gonna try but this shit is not gonna work for my current skill level" Time to eat a bunch of "free" 40ish damage hits. A better player probably launch punishes that move every time.
As Max Dood said before, Tekken ranked is generally frustrating due to the chaotic gameplan that everyone has there. You never know if your opponent will play a proper Tekken, or just wants to make your day miserable.
Why not do both ?
I just got into Tekken and it definitely seems like I joined at the worst time for ranked play. I still get a lot of enjoyment out of the game and I'm currently at warrior rank, which I'm happy with for now.
I take great pleasure in making newcomers quit this game for good. I hope to see you online
try to play against friends its better to learn that way
@@Igga_killer You can tell that you’re cheeks just by your comment.
@@Igga_killer name checks out
@@thatonebandit9333 cheers . I revel in beating leroy into the ground.
i am in blue rank and i got armor kings and kings korean backdashing and doing insta throws and i can barely chain 3 really slow ones back to back this shit is crazy man
Ki charge is the new meta
Half the game is mind games. You gotta do what u gotta do to fuck with the opposition
I ki charge all the time. It is the new meta.
I think what TMM said about Steve in the end is important. Having a check list of moves or situations that you want to improve on or hit more often really helps. It takes the stress off the match and puts it in somethin you have more control over.
Most people have it wrong. They just want to rank up. Ranked should be seen as a place where you have the opportunity to meet people of your skill level. Outside of tournaments, if you have a good mindset, ranked is the best place to both learn AND have fun. Internet points are poisonous. Ranks might seem impressive at first, especially in games like League of Legends, where matches don't depend entirely on you. If you reach Diamond in League by abusing broken stuff, you might fool some people into thinking you're actually good for a while. But in Tekken? No way. No matter how high your rank is, your true skill is always immediately apparent. Ranks look impressive. Skill just is.
Besides, you don't need to rank up to have fun. Play ranked, but forget about your rank. Play long sets, allow people to rematch and adapt. Enjoy the competition. Love the game.
Tnx MainMan , have something to think about cuz i also part of thouse who start toxic after lose or meet some one who just uperhead you.... need to change attitude. Hope every thing will be alright with you
Everything you said is true. The rank inflation is a fact now. It's so hard to reach even Yaksa because of hundreds of good and great players on Eternal ruler and Fujin ranks these days. So often I become very salty because some Eternal rulers literally destroy me and I wonder why are they not TGPs. Recently I keycharged a great Kaz player when I managed to finally win a single match after 6 or 7 painful losses. It was first time I did that. Usually I'm very respectful, but nowadays It's hard to be calm. Now I'll try to be happy even for some minor progress in game, It's easier and healthier for your mentality.
Tbh, I think it's best to play unranked now.
Because the thing I hate about ranked is that the stakes are always high, so because it is about getting to the next rank. You're not really having fun because a lose will feel more devastating.
You can argue the same for unranked, but because your rank is in the line: You have to focus and thus it's easier to get tilted by throws and 50/50s when you can play with a friend and you can have the benefits of ranked. Without the pressure.
Though, that is just me
literally no one rematches in ranked these days besides obvious new players
I remember getting demoted 6 times with lars. I went from ryujin to revered ruler and didn't get a single promo in between those 6 demotion. And I'm they type thats quick to get pissed but I didn't even get mad in fact I was numb when that happen
That’s me right right now I’m so sad right now
I play a fair bit of ranked on playstation , The most annoying part is absolutely rank connections, minus 3 frame drops and blue bars becoming green bars. i think out of every 10 ranked matches I get 3 decent conncetions. so i think it is dieing
I hit byakko rank yesterday and I main geese negan and kazuya, and when I was in the previous rank it was a bit challenging but as soon as I played my first byakko match I thought it was goddamn PGF on a Smurf account…so many electrics
Stopped playing ranked 3 years ago and started playing custom lobbies with friends, greatest decision I’ve made in my life.
It also makes it much harder as a beginner to learn matchups when my opponent chooses to not rematch as soon as I start learning how to play against them. I’m here to learn and improve my understanding of the game, playing against characters I don’t yet fully understand is meant to be a learning experience, even if I lose a bunch. But when they plug/don’t rematch it makes it harder to learn and improve. It’s frustrating as it is simply stunting my own growth as a player.
I quit for a over 2 years never made it to red ranks, but recently started playing again, the rust and patches aside, snake edge in green isn't nearly as safe as it was before,also more people throw break.
The worst part about being demoted into lower ranks like yellow is that you come across people that say you are a fake account or troll if you wash them
I know he was trying to say that I was smurfing so i answered by playing dumb (not really cuase its my real account) and said "what do you mean by fake account?"
Dude snapped and spammed my dms with every slur in the book for a half an hour. I had to Forfeit who I was fighting after because his DMS were causing lag
tbh the past few days most of my opponents in ranked ( warrior as miguel ) tend to play at least 5 matches , but those who play like 10 matches in a row have like 500+ and even close to 1k wins while ive got like 80 , so they are much better at me in knowing their char , the thing is i manage to get like 50% win rate against them , but the gap is clear lol , i see few people on green/yellow/high orange ranks with low win count like 200-300
Yeah my biggest sadness in trying to climb is I usually play whoever I face until they leave because I can learn more of moves from facing the same flow chart nonstop. But I do get annoyed when I get 3 or 4 people in a row playing hwo or yoshi and knowledge checking me the first 2 or 3 sets. Then once I win and get the read on them they leave. It doesn't really click to me. And as far as players getting better I feel like this was the breakout tekken. In games that have been around for a while even the bad players get better significantly. The same can be said for MOBAs and shooters like LoL and CSGO. In the past the mid ranks could not do the most mundane simple mechanics and now they can. I think the community is just improving. It definitely is smaller now though too.
Just had a scripting, overlay using Kazuya with 3 rollbackframes in ranked
10/10 experience
the green ranks are more or less "ok".. the lightblue ranks so the first ranks from expert to grandmaster are realy crazy at times... depends a bit on the time of day I think.. I am by nomeans good at tekken.. I just play it casual for fun and recently got to warrior ... but what I felt was.. the hardest thing was to get out of those light blue ranks.. after you got into the green ones it became more or less "easier"... I struggled superhard with people around 40.000 tekkentalent points... while I first was scared when I saw my first oponents with over 100.000 or even 200.000 the fight against them was actually realy easy (and the still had 200 wins with the charakter so it wasn't like it was a total new char for them) .. but those around 40.000 to 80.000 talentpoints... was often crazy hard... like everyone is holding everyone down... ... I am sure they are super easy for those realy good players... but for the average noob.. I think the lower ranks are even harder
at least it felt like that to me
100% this. I just came back to Tekken and the Teal ranks are tough. It speaks to TMM’s point about the player base just being all around better now as most people have quit. Teal ranks have solid KBDing etc. When you see videos online of someone playing in the Dans or Teal ranks the gameplay sucks, but nowadays these ranks have decent players too. Definitely noticed no one wants to as soon as I adapt and figure out their bullshit. They take several wins and then I get one win on them and they quit.
I also don't know what's up with teal ranks. They are super hard when it should be easy because they are the earliest almost. I never made it above Marauder in green ranks, and often get to Brawler and then get demoted again with Kazuya. And then to get out of Teal again is hell, let me tell you. Pure knowledge checks almost and occasionally crazy whiff punishing and keep out from opponents. The latter makes me think they are smurfs because they evade way too well for such an early rank but perhaps they are just on their second character or played a big amount of quickplay and their rank is not representative of their skill. Because that is also a major flaw with Ranked und unranked. People can train for months on unranked and then join ranked and destroy you completely.
It's not just that it's ranked and having to deal with Annoying characters, it's also the cheaters. For example my current rank is byakko, but if anyone were to play me you could tell skill-wise I'm actually a little higher ranked. I just got tired of playing ranked match and every time I turn around some character is doing instant ducks on moves that I specifically conditioned them for. On top of the fact that trainers have gotten better too so it takes a little while before you even notice that you're playing someone who's either tool assisted or just flat out cheating
I just got into tekken in the past 2 years and it can be very annoying. But honestly, I love it and SWE and lil Majin have helped me appreciate it more. I've never been a fighting game player, but this has become my favorite fighter. They do good with teaching you sample combos and the pacing of the game overall is perfect. I hated that mids could catch you when blocking low, but it grew on me. I take many L's and get frustrated, but I just love to compete regardless.
My number 1 problem with ranked right now is people who won't rematch, win or lose. Especially if they lose.
What really made me drop the game is that online has its own rules. You learn and lab stuff in the practice mode and it goes out the window once you're online. I've already got thick enough skin against toxic people, quitters, cheaters. I've gotten used to that most people I fight in my ranks are those who picked secondary character and are better than me generally. What ends up tilting me is the fact that things that are not supposed to happen or are impossible occur regularly. The passion for the game is gone. Fuck online. I hope they do bring back some good offline content for T8. I'd rather fight bots all day than deal with this shit.
iv started playing tekken a lot recently, when ever I have a chance. about 150 wins Usurper w/ AK. And so far the community has been great to me. A taunt and Ki charge here and there but I ki charge in my CH combos so i think its fair lol. I've had way more ppl add me on steam and tell me good job and great games. Fought this nasty steve that was on like a 25 win streak before we fought. I ended his streak at like 28 and he added me. Just said good shit and me played like 10 more after that.
I just came out of a ranked session, finding 3 times the same Lei who plays and left after winning. Eventually i started to understand the match-up a little (i still get caught by gimmicky animal stances bullshit but less then before). I still want to rank up (i’m Genbu right now) but my mentality is to reach a point where i get kicked in the ass so badly that will mean i know i’m actually at that level as a player. Unfortunally i’m on ps5 so i can’t play with a lot of very good players that are on pc.
I just started tekken a year ago and i honestly like this game I don’t really have a problem being destroyed due to experience in other game my problem with tekken is just it demand a lot of knowledge of a player I am currently playing with Jin and I’m not even bad in this games high rank players are even telling me that I’m better than green rank but there are always characters like alisa and more who just get away with a lot of shit because of the lack of knowledge I just don’t know what to do when I get rushed downed or because of those evasive shit and this frustrates me especially if u know u are better u just can’t do something about it and than realizing that there are a lot of characters I don’t know in this game takes sometimes my motivation continuing the game
Been a while since I play rank I was on a 44 winstreak with my dragunov then jus stopped for a few months then while relaxing at an arcade bar they happen to have Tekken 7 and I played with ppl in the bar was much more fun winning seeing ppls reaction in person and drinking some wine doin my sick wall carry combos I've learned already from long ago.
The thumbnail with Kaz and jin made it funny lol
I stopped playing tekken a long time ago for the simple fact trhat the players are the absolute worst. Win=quit. lose = quit. Win very close intense game=quit. LOSE very close intense game = quit. Win handily, rematch.... win again in a close match this time = quit. Lose handily, rematch lose in close match this time = quit... and visa versa.
Basically Tekken players are the scrubbiest little punks in the entire FGC.
I quit roughly a year ago, got back into it due to hype over the balance patch which didn't really change much for the better imo I am a Kazuya main who got into Tekken with T7 on PC when it launched, first Tekken. I firstly started with Lee and that was really difficult, I then switched from character to character, with some success with Leo and Bob but I found myself always sitting in practice mode with Kazuya, I just really loved the way he moved, looked and it was so cool to hit an electric.
All my friends and people who has played Tekken before said DON'T PICK KAZUYA AS YOUR MAIN! He's too difficult for someone starting out etc etc but he interested me and I decided to make the switch, I'm Eternal Ruler with Kazuya and I play on a PS4 pad. I mainly quit due to power creep and the toxicity of ranked. I enjoy the process of ranking up and down, it gives the game a bit more reason than just beating someone/getting better, it's fake internet points and I like them damn it! Lol
The main problem I have with ranked is rematching... In my head I'm here for a tournament style Best out of 3, if the connection is absolutely solid and we're similarly skilled then I will continue to rematch pretty much till I either plan to stop playing T7 or they stop rematching. I enjoy long sets with characters I don't know that well because I learn a lot in a short period of time. Most people now days don't do that, if they lose? No rematch. If they win? No rematch... Usually because I don't get completely steam rolled so they know I could totally win the next match, and that happens to me a fair bit. I will just need a match or 2 before I start to get a solid read on my opponent. The worst is when you get beaten a few times in a row, let's say 3 or 4 and then you win, they don't rematch.
ALSO WIFI. Stop it. Get some help.
I feel the part of looses a lot and then send a friend request, but is because I´m a noob and I can play too much on the week and want to play again with that person again another day, but I have fish memory and forget to I add that person.
I think everyone here should add each other looking for some good wholesome friendly matches
Playing MOBAs extensively in the past means I still suffer from PSTD when I play online. Honestly, FGC toxicity is extremely mild by comparison. As per the main message of this video, I have found that once I stopped caring about my rank and just having fun playing Tekken, it made the whole experience much better. I find it much more satisfying losing 5 times in a row to someone and slowly figuring out how to beat them than wiping 3 different players in a row. The former makes me a better player, the latter just improves a ranking that ultimately means absolutely nothing if your not a pro.
I wish I could thumb up this video thousand times...every point Mainman made was absolutely spot on, and my ranked experience exactly as he described
I agree with everything you said, people invest ego into rank and it spoils it. Green ranks seem to be getting tougher, I used to be in yellows but I lost it and am having a lot of trouble getting back there. A lot of people make it really difficult to have fun playing online, but the silver lining is when I find those chosen few who play adaptively, even if they crush me I see they're adjusting to how I'm trying to best them, they don't ki charge, they help me learn a character I'm not very familiar with, don't just spam knowledge checks until I learn them only to bail, and as the cherry on top they skip their intros and outros...whoo, they make it worth it, they remind me how fun this game can be.
I completely get someone not rematching if they're way better than me, especially in ranked. But I've had a few people that were obviously better at the game, and would kind of tone down to give me a fighting chance. Like, they'd stop playing super aggressive, they'd do less optimal combos, wouldn't punish quite as hard as they could've. They'd still win, but rather than a complete blow-out, i'm at least getting a round or two, and learning about how the higher levels play. Those people are a delight to run into, I'd happily take a demotion to the dome for those kinds of sets.
Hey, i completely agree!! I mainly played tekken with my friend locally at first for a while before going online and we were pretty evenly matched.
But as we atarted playing online we both found it way easier. ( we voth play mishimas)
Because nobody was punishing any moves and just had weird punishable flowcharts.
I have yet to find a player as good as my friend online and it seems i have to get to atleast purple ranks to have a chance
it’s super hard to rank up , i lose and that’s fine -1700 or whatever, but half the time on pc when i win, they plug and i don’t get the points.. idc abt rank too much but it feels good accomplishing a certain rank , but it feels like it’s always a plug or a ki-charge one and done
For the first time in a while I had a good session in ranked last night after Lil Majins YT stream. I got my ass beat but my opponents were pretty cool.
One thing I have noticed is there are definitely different groups (or shifts) of ranks. As an example, when I play during a lunch break, juggs I meet will be weaker than juggs I meet during the nighttime.
Same with me
Yeah the 1am-6am group stateside all seem to play better than their rank suggests.
Man my experience with tekken 7 online has been pretty toxic overall, I'm playing in american region believe it or not man I could not play any rank sessions cuz alot players are either not giving me rematches or are just straight up not accepting my challenges, even in Player sessions I've been getting kicked out whenever I join. Personally I dont even care about the ranks because obviosly tekken 8 is going to come out soon and its not even that serious at all, hopefully tekken 8 becomes an improvement and there gets more stuff to have fun with as well. My goal in playing tekken is just to generally improve no matter what
I'm a reasonably new player at ~270 hours of playtime.
At Yellow rank with Gigas and Chloe i find more smurfs than toxic players, which has been boosting my learning process a lot.
I find a toxic player maybe once every 30 opponents.
Pluggers hurt themselves more than they do me.
I've only seen only one REAL spammer so far, but this one was so bad, such an extreme example,
that i just fed him exp during 9 games JUST so i could practice against spammers.
I eventually improved and dominated the spammer 3 games in a row before withdrawing.
Pluggers are not a bother to me because they hurt themselves more than they hurt me by disconnecting.
Their willingness to get a high disconnect rate and a yellow/red glowing name is more of a reward than getting +1 to my victory count.
Though to me there are no obnoxious characters, just potentially obnoxious players.
The player makes or breaks a character in my opinion.
If i may toot my own horn, i've recently been complimented on Steam by someone who generally hates Chloe.
Said he enjoyed our fight.
That made me very happy and proud.
A fellow gigas lover I respect you
@@joshuastewart3216 Much appreciated.
I think player lobby is more toxic because you can get kicked for any reason. I can understand for kicking someone for low bars or wifi but don't make an open, blank lobby if you're going to kick people for high/low rank or winning. Sometimes they kick you when it's your turn after watching people play ahead of you.
they always kick you for winning. it's funny.
They kick me sometimes when they’ve never played me before or when it’s my turn and I never got the chance to play that’s why I only join my friends or I’ll send them invites.
People have become rank fanatics. The rank matters to alot of players more than the actual development of their play...and more than even having fun with the game.
Not everyone thinks rank matter
@@Xbox.4388 I said "alot of player" lol
People will be toxic as fuck and then say why does nobody want to play more then 1 game with me
just started playing a few weeks ago and i was basically stuck ind 1st dan for at least half a week with miguel
This is why I've been like low parried at Green ranks. I mean there were only a few players who I though were legit green ranks when I played them. Some had incredible defensive ability but couldn't punish shit.
Ive been Fujin for few months now, highest i got to was Yaksa and I think this is as far as I can go. you almost never meet people your level, you only play people with 300k + prowess which is essentially tekken king and higher on their subs, its depressive when you can never meet players your level and only meet much higher ranks
I recently watched Peter mayos videos on how to climb ranks "how to get out of blue ranks, breed yellow ect.
And I noticed that advice he was giving to green and yellow players was being used by most of the people I was against ING blue and green.
Also no lw the about of cheap char pics is crazy, it used to be an annoying matchuo every few games but now I have to play 2 negans and 3 chloes before I can play 1 kazuya.
I'm a Juggernaut Kaz and ranked for me is coming across Vanquisher+ players using their lower ranked characters - especially Bob, Alisa and Lei, who will plug or leave if they lose, but constantly attempt to rematch if they win soundly - but won't if its a close match.
Its very very hard to enjoy ranked and improve when youre punching up 50+% of the time against people who have plateaued at higher ranks and come down for a dopamine hit, and who leave when you show the slightest hint of possibility at beating them.
I love fighting higher rank players. I hate playing v higher risk players who spam Bob's power crush, who run away with Alisa and use her closing moves, and who do Lei shenanigans, but the moment you start understanding how to get past those moves they spam, they move on to easier pickings.
I dont want to come across as a Mishima elitist but its often the mishima and jin players who are the most likely to actually play Tekken and not "Do you know how to deal with these deceptive or +frame moves?, of you do? Bye then."
I hate to come across as arrogant, but I consider myself to be a pretty good yellow rank Kaz. I dont often struggle against players who are shown to be yellow rank at highest, but they rarely rematch me because the games are often very one sided, but then higher rank players, at best, leave me neutral in rank progression as they only play until they lose (or get close to leaving). It makes it very hard to enjoy ranked when youre bouncing between these two camps with an infrequent middle gerund being found, whislt also dealing with constant crashes and net errors.
Also I play on Xbox so there's a pretty limited player pool. Whenever I play I tend to find myself getting matche dto the same 6-8 players over the course of an hour or two.
All that being said, I still love playing ranked over player matches. When I first started I went straight to ranked, with just under 1k wins now, and less than 100 in player matches - mostly from private matches vs those I meet in ranked and play vs outside ranked. I've met some great people through ranked, but holy hell is it a slog.
Got demoted by a Noctis spamming his running attack the other day. Tried to step it but it's harder than it looks and the problem is that it even launches on hit. But I discovered on thing. You can jab float it on reaction if they start spamming it. Guess what? After I won a couple matches they left! Shocking I know... Next time I faced a Noctis I did just the same strat and suddenly it was so much easier.
I primarily stick with unranked games. It seems like everyone in ranked only death matches if it's a favorable matchup.
2:49
Exactly it
I don't like "GETTING READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE" every time someone plugs, bots, cheats, or quits after 1 match. I've not played online in months, unless with friends
I'm on fujin with lili and revered rouler as kazuya (on ps5) and for us it is really aparent, that ppl ar way better now on avarage then 1-2 years ago, and that with no cheating (as it's on ps not pc).
I've defo felt the level increase in ranks, I can't just be getting worse at the game, the only people that still stick around to play have gotten better/there's less players and so it's a lot more hardcore experience. People will leave after one match all the time, it's upsetting for the game to be frustrating outside of the game itself, to find matches etc. Imagine a new player getting into the game now. They will run into smurfs even in green ranks, in orange and red there will be people with 300k power on alt characters that know your character match up, Like for example I was playing miguel, and I ran into a yoshi and lili with 300k power, they automatically ducked ff21 on the second hit because they know it's duckable, an actual orange or red rank won't do that, especially not the first time seeing the move. Playing new characters is the only way I can continue playing, I have a kazuya with almost 1000 wins fluxuating in red/orange ranks, have a dvj in red, a kazumi in red, and now I'm picking up new characters.
A few years ago I thought about using macros to do electrics since I was so bad at the game at the time but deep down inside me I couldn't do it. It's not who I am. I hate cheaters & I consider that cheater. It would also made me a worse player. Now I can wavu so much better. Electric whenever I want. It feel so amazing that I learned how to do all of this. I EARNED THIS SKILL!
6:16 I didn't know the low parry cheat went that deep? O_0
The vast majority of my matches are respectful ones where we do long sets, whether I play in ranked or quick match. Could be a regional thing; I play against OCE players.
Ngl I recently fought a Kuma where we traded wins for a few matches but at the last match I 3-round Perfect him and the dude straight up plugged, yeah I get it that its a bit humiliating to lose 3 straight perfects but its like what MMS said people need to learn to accept losses. I wanted to save that match but DC made it impossible. Btw we were both in yellow rank and I was playing Hwo
I got a confession to make. To tell you the truth, rank mode has literally taken out the worst in me. I dealt with so much toxicity that it came to a point where I began to be toxic too. I was just trying to rank up my secondary main, Kazuya, and everybody was just either ki charging, plugging, or sending me messages. Then came a time where enough was enough, I then switched to my main character, Dragunov, and I began ki charging everyone I beat, sending mean messages, and teabagging. One time there was a Zafina player I bumped into after dealing with a row of BS characters. Xiaoyu, Chloe, Alissa, King, and Yoshimitsu. I was literally screaming my head off as I was fighting the Zafina (and I was playing Kazuya too that day so you should know how frustrated I was at that point). Even after I got a 5 win streak against them, I was still screaming my lungs out. Not in victory, but in rage. I even wanted to go to the chat after they left and send them a voice message of me screaming so loud into the mic with pure rage. Thankfully, they had their messages locked and I was just too tired to even bother doing it. I also remember bullying a Master Raven player who did nothing but try to mash and I kept countering them into quitting Tekken. That guy was pissing me off I just felt an urge to do it.
I know I sound like I'm an asshole and I probably shouldn't exist in this world like Jin would say, but Tekken Ranked made me like this. I AM WHAT TEKKEN RANKED MADE ME!!! IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!! To all the toxic players out there, YOU DID THIS TO ME!!!! YOU WANTED TO BE MONSTERS? WELL YOU ENDED UP CREATING ONE ALONG THE WAY!!! THANKS!!!
Tekken ranked changes a man
Okay but imagining you screaming like a madman while carefully calculating punishes and paying attention to your movement is just too funny :p
Mofo having a whole ass Tekken induced Joker moment in YT comments
I don't send mean messages but i have also started to ki charge and yell hard. Tekken sure makes one angry if one has a preposition to get angry easily.
Every time I play i try to keep my composure but mostly i fail. Still not sure how to stay calm.
Can you make a video on your take on lee right now
I really like the complexity of this game and I play for a learning experience. But after this, idk how to learn the game if lots of people don't rematch, possible cheaters and all this and won't even get to play Tekken 8.