The Tragically Hip's last song rings out across Canada
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- Thousands of fans from Halifax to Vancouver sang the Tragically Hip’s last song, ‘Ahead By A Century.’
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Every once in a while something is perfect.
Well put.
Watching this video, then reading this comment... someone is cutting onions!
i'm fronting garlic,
this top comment;
NFU.
well said
wow xo
As much as everyone hates on CBC these days, they did a solid airing this for us. I don't care how much they made off of it. It truly did my soul good to be able to watch this in solidarity with my fellow Canadians across the country. For that I will forever be thankful.
I don't think they made anything off it. They ran it with no ads, during prime time.
@@kmacgregor6361 I would hope that, if they made anything from it, there was a deal with the band to donate a considerable amount to charity (glioblastoma research and indigenous causes, most likely).
thankfully we have the CBC if CTV and Global did this it would be full of commercials and they would have charged admission to the 11 million of us who watched free at parks across the country. CBC TV and Radio provide great exposure for Canadian talent And they still use Canadian foreign corespondants not feeding off the US news networks
They didn't make anything from it, in fact they lost because they paid to be playing the Olympics. They did an absolute solid and did a solid by airing this. Only The Hip could stop the Olympics and pause the busyness of a country to bring people across the entire country together 💜
The CBC gave up on Canadian values after this.
Anyone watching after a year of COVID thinking "what a blessing it was to say goodbye this way."
yup and it still brings me to tears
Yes. And I’m still friggen crying about it lol
Amen to that my friend.
oh yeah, I lost 5 family members since Covid started (none to Covid) and I could not attend the funerals of any of them
Honestly I disagree, the cancer that he had is very intense.. I lost two people very close to me to the same cancer that Gord had.. and when I think about how much they suffered, emotionally and physically, it really isn’t a blessing .
This is us. This is Canada. The Hip are us. Gord was a poet, a patriot and a prophet. Never forgotten, He lives through this beautiful music.
I LOVE The Hip. But, they represent urban Ontario, not the rest of Canada. I absolutely love this band, but they are just representative of very urban Ontario (hence all the guilt in the lyrics about all the things that are not in very urban Ontario....) Just my 2 cents....
@@floyd2222Thanks for your 2 cents.🙄
When people say "the world needs more Canada" this is what they mean...rest in peace Gord
@Lone Wolf no, if you knew Canadians you would know we are not the ones to toot our own horns
@Lone Wolf well I dont want to live where you are or have contact with the people you do in a day.... bye bye and take care
I was "like" #88 the year I was born and the year of their album "Up to here"
To the Canadian people...Thank you for lending us Americans one of your greatest treasures.....Thanks!
they really are a treasure to us. Your welcome...dont keep the faith, spread it.
No problem my country brother 🤟🏻🇨🇦
I'm Canadian and you are right.... he was on loan to all of us. we borrowed him too just for a short while
You are very welcome he is always in our hesrts
Np
Whomever said one voice couldn't unite a country was mistaken.
Our culture is based on agreement on certain principles.
The Hip are one of those.
Mandela did it back in 1994! It is just a shame that Gordie was not more notorious.
I grew up in Ohio. The northern and easternmost town. That sharp point in the upper right hand corner.
Thank Gord I did.
I was across the Lake from London. And through London's FM96 I first heard the Hip in 1989 or 1990. It was MAGIC. It was a Twofer Tuesday. I was hooked.
I have spread the Hip as far as I could in the States. I have shared Gordie and the boys with everyone I could, whether they wanted to listen or not.
It's been nearly four years. I'm sitting in my car bawling. Literally crying SO hard right now.
I remember a reddit thread I saw once. It was something like "I'm Canadian but I don't like..." Someone said The Hip. Even that guy was singing along on this night.
I miss you, Gordie. For every kid in the US who lived in a "bordertown", you were OUR treasure, too.
Big hugs for you today. Even if you don't read this now,anytime soon or ever...the hip united us and that's why I send you a hug today. Take care. Miss you Gordie and The Tragically Hip.
Same here Niagara Falls New York....❤ Hooked❤
Same, grew up east of Cleveland right on lake Erieand we got the London 96 station, had the best Canadian rock ever playing
There are 4 types of people here
- The people singing along
- The people crying
- The people looking on in awe
- The people doing all 3
I'm doing all 3
I was doing all three that night. It was like saying goodbye to an old friend you knew you were never going to see again.
Terry Fox and Gord Downie. In my lifetime, the only two that truly brought us together. Let us keep it going. Please.
John Candy
From an American: thank you Canada for sharing this amazing band with us.
Never forget that night how 99% of our Nation was watching this last show.
😪
All crying and singing along with Gord one last time live!
😪✌🙏
Rest in Peace and Love Gord.
Thanks for everything, but especially the lyrics that brought us ALL together as Canadian's.
✌❤🇨🇦🎸🎶💃🐈🙏
Well said bud!! Cheers from Wasaga Beach Ontario....🤘😜🍻
@@thomaspeake6448
Cheers 🏞🏕🏖
❤🇨🇦🎶🍋🥃🧂
Simply beautiful. How many bands can bring an entire country together for 1 night? The tragically hip can the tragically hip did
Wow, they were absolutely nothing like anything else in that they pretty much made everyone relate in some way and made you feel good and comfortable in any situation hearing them and everyone could feel a vibe which stayed inside our hearts forever! RIP GORDON DOWNIE
Bittersweet. There will never be another band that represents Canada so well. To the ten people who gave a thumbs down, you chose the wrong button, correct it now please.
Selena H anyone who gives a thumbs down to someone like Gord needs to evaluate themselves!
Those ten people are tragically dicks. They have no idea who they're listening to.
RUSH.
Selena H ii
Philip S. Varughese the people who gave thumbs down are probably some Quebecois separatists
To the world: Canada is closed today due to a death in the family. RIP Gord Downie. :(
Michael Bray well said bud😞
Well said indeed...
This sentiment still hits me 3 years later.
We loved him in buffalo ny 😢 grew up listening to the hip on the local stations we would pick up from st Catherine’s
@@Whateva67 I felt the same when Walter Gretzky died.
From a Buffalonian, thank you Canada for sharing The Hip with us. RIP Gord.
When I'm asked what makes Canada so special, I say two things... we don't try to define it, and watch us say goodbye to Gordie... all that needs to be said.
❤
I'll never forget this night. In the little northern mining town of Timmins, hundreds of people crowded into a public park by the river where a big inflatable screen was streaming this concert. It was pouring rain and there wasn't enough shelter for everyone, but we never stopped dancing or singing along. Every now and then the connection would go bust because of the storm and we'd just wait together huddled around the screen in anticipation. The north loved Gord.
I remember it like it was yesterday,for one night the entire country stopped .
Having seen them 21 times. I watched this show, obviously burst into tears. Often wondered why they closed with ABAC. Then it made sense. The last lyrics he ever sang was “disappointing you is getting me down” he was saying sorry to all of us. The Hip is Canada. He was all of us. This country will never forget this night, but I’ll never forget the man and what he meant to me.
Beautifully stated, and so insightful. I never thought about that last lyric's meanning to share with us. Thanks for posting. Gord is still moving us. He forever will.
This was a Canadian experience… one of our “where were you “ moments. Gord was really wonderful and we’re lucky we got to say goodbye to him as a country. I still miss him so much.
The guy at the Horseshoe at 0:26 - his expression says it all. It's 2020 and can still feel it.
That guy fully understood that significance of the moment...I may have watched that from my living room, but you could feel the collective, imminent loss our country was to feel
It's probably the biggest celebration of life event any country has ever had for a person. A rare event that could reduce the most stoic of men to tears.
2023 and still more true than ever
You Canadians should be so proud to had a band like The Hip. I had the luck to see them twice in Belgium and they were fantastic. The will be still one of my favourite bands. Many greetings from Belgium to all the fans of The Hip!
The saddest sing along in The Hip's history, so many broken hearts.
Right :(
Still grieving but proud and happy Gord shared his passion with us ♥️ RIP Gordie, rest easy.
Every Canadian knew! Jus matter of time.
Never heard of the Hip until a month ago.
Have played nothing else since. Incredible band
Do u live under a rock
@@donkeyballs3307 I live in Australia. So yes!
welcome to a better place in your life! congrats, be well
I hope you've listened to Saskadelphia!
@@adamwhitemore8148 The Hip were in Australia for one tour back in the 90’s :) and The Hip and Midnight Oil co-headlined a festival the Hip setup and toured around Canada together.
Not just the greatest band to ever come out of Canada, but one of the greatest bands of any country EVER.
I could not stop crying. He's with the constellations now, look up and remember
Beautiful words
Oh Gord, you are so loved. Even here in New York State.
OMG. The entire country is smiling and crying at the same time. I could not love this video more. We miss him too, Canada😪
I fkn love this
No dress rehearsal, this is our life - Every Canadian Ever
I never get sick of this video.
This band means the world to me...I am not from Canada, but i have seen at first hand what this band means to Canadians..... There were ALWAYS Canadians at every TTH concert i saw in the Netherlands.... I fear the day Gordon Downie will die, we will loose one of the great poets of our time....This video tears me up, makes me feel good, makes me want to visit Canada and hug you all.....
Kuno Steijn you can crash at my place bro !
you are right except he is dead already. I saw them 13 times. gord is canada. full stop. He's ours. I cry and cry. I miss him
Amazing. The reach they have, the tears unite us. I remember watching this live. It was a difficult time for me, my family. Watching it now brings it all back, both the good and the hard. What an amazing time it was, as a country, to say goodbye to one our own. He is missed.
When it's safe to do so...c'mon over
@@sray1768 High on my bucketlist!
I wish there was footage from the public square in Waterloo. It started raining for the last few songs and most if not all the fans stuck it out the the end. Dancing and singing to this song in the pouring rain is a moment I will never forget
Stand your ground.
I saw them outside in Montreal 2 years ago, it was pouring and no one even thought about leaving. He wasn't leaving, so why would we?
Madeline Caesar We stayed up til 12 in N.S on a closed, cold one way street in a busy part of town. You could smell weed, beer, n piss. It was perfect.
Madeline Caesar same in guelph
one of the good meanings of that expression
How many times in life are we able to give roses to those who deserve it most whilst they are still alive. This wasn’t just about it being the Hip’s last concert. It was our opportunity as a country to say thank you! Thank you To a man who has given his soul to his art and a band that represented us Canadians so well. So for One last time, THANK YOU! I will always remember this moment and their music will always be with us!
Cheers from a Buffalonian. Had some of the best moments of my life listening to The Hip. Cheers to all of Canada. This was a perfect video. And now I have go find out who is chopping onions in my house...
stevestojan yes! #buffalonianhipfan yay
Perfect! Well said.
Falls girl here. Standing with Buffalo. My home now for 4 yrs. Standing with ya and missing Gord!!!
Sending love from Buffalo.. many, many fans up here, they will be greatly missed.
JWitt30 you mean down. hahaha jk! I guess being in northern US you are used to saying "up here". :)))) cheers from up here to down there my friend.
JWitt30 Vermonters will miss them also
Hey thanks that is why we love Buffalo cheers to great people
#buffalohipfan my dad loved tragically hip. I grew up loving this music. May good Rest In Peace
I am an American living in the Cayman Islands. I have been here for thirty years. Along the way I have met and become friends with scores of Canadians.Good people! One of my best friends is a Canadian from Niagara Falls. On one of his mother's trips to the island I asked her to bring me the one of the Tragically Hip's greatest hits cds. I had already been a fan having seen them when they played a concert in the Caymans. That's right, the Hip played in the Cayman Islands.I am so glad that she brought me the cd Yer Favourites. I am sure you all know it is 37 of the Hip's best. I will forever cherish it! I just want to say, as an American whose country has lost numerous musical icons, including Tom Petty just a short time ago, (may he rock on in heaven), that I have never experienced the love and admiration for any of our musicians the way that Canada loves the Tragically Hip. Gord Downie and the boys have become a national treasure! You have lost one of the best and I grieve with you. Let's make sure their work is not lost on future generations. They were truly ahead by a century!!!
Thank you for sharing Mark. Gave me courage to tell my tale. Came to Canada in 90... was in a US university for 3+ years prior, but originally from Latinamerica. As an avid music lover ...jazz, Latin jazz, rock (drummer) ..my life changed when I heard the Hip. Looked into their evolution and saw something remarkable. They were themselves and and uniquely Canadian and had phases along the way from fun and games, to dark themes, to Canadian history/politics lessons... all with a distinct Canadian flavour. Becoming Canadian was eerily easy with the Hip as my soundtrack. I learned what it meant to be Canadian with their help.
I was already barely recovering from Petty's passing. Gord's passing is now unbearable man. Two great ones gone..
Mark Wallace Yes It's Sad ..where do we go from here😩
Awesome thing to say…I’m also a Canadian from Niagara Falls lol.
American here...the Hip defined my teenage years. Thanks for this greatest of imports..RIP Gord!!
I was playing a weekend of shows in Ocean City, Maryland and booked it out of there to get to the hotel to start watching this immediately. Watched what I could and was in tears almost the whole time. I hear The Hip on a daily basis - they're on my playlist here at work, so they come up a lot - and Gord is never far from my mind. Five years gone and he still blazes bright. What a legacy to leave behind.
I love Canadians, and I love being Canadian! So Proud!
You can read the emotions in nearly everyone in this video, enough to make you cry
The night everything stopped in Canada for a few hours.
"No Dress rehearsal this is our life". What a powerful line cuts deep Rip Gord your music lives on forever!
I'm crying watching this - it tells you something when a band can move people so much as Gord Downie and his band. I'm 58 and been a Hip fan for over 25 years. Great lyrics, great music, great singer, no other can compare. Thank you for everything guys. Courage Gord, keep the faith....
After hearing the last two songs, long time running in the credits, I tried to get up, then just sat down and cried.
Thank you Hip. Thank you Canada. US fan from Hartford. Early years they'd drive their van down to Connecticut shows. They're Canadian fans would travel down. We'd party in the lot before the show. Fun, gracious people. Miss Gordie and the band. Grace Too.
Love it!
Gord, I was in Canada in 96/97, saw you at the Corel Center. My school
friends insisted on their weird foreigner to accompany and watch the
best band in the world. You may have noticed us. ;-) My friends were the
only row totally calm and nailed deep deep into their seats after
consuming too many veggies - strike! The rest of the Corel Center was at their
feet going crazy. I will never forget that picture.
Whenever someone threw in a Hip record, YOUR Canadians, Gord,
transformed into the most wonderful species I have met on earth. Not one
pickup truck, whose driver couldn't sing your songs by heart. Left
Canada 20 years ago. Your music never left me. Never will. With Love
from Europe.
well said. thank you
Thank you
The end of a truly Canadian treasure! Did ANY Canadian band EVER epitomize this country like Gord and the boys? I think not. My heart is shattered and the tears are flowing freely. Ahead by way more than century Gord..way, way more!
Filled Officers Square in Fredericton (watched it with my adult children on a beautiful summer night). Saint John had several outdoor and indoor venues showing the concert, filled to the rafters. Even my 78 year old mother watched the concert and she'd never heard their music before. This was so much more than a concert by a beloved Canadian band. This was a national coming together for an iconic group of musicans and the unabashed love and respect for Gord Downie.
Watched this stream live in Officer's Square Fredericton, NB. Our local radio station rocked the Hip all day leading up to it. To this day, still my favorite concert I've ever attended.
This show was playing in every bar, garage, and backyard here in Buffalo too. My whole family and our whole neighborhood watched it live together. Buffalo is always known as The Hip’s home here in the states. TTH and The Goos are our hometown bands here, five minutes south of the border. I grew up listening to them and would give anything to have been able to have seen them live. Thank you for sharing them with us, Canada
From your neighbors here in Buff
Six time zones wide. No nation ever held a bigger block party. I was there. Macdonell Street, halfway between Wyndham and Carden, just past the Guelph City Hall fountain. I still mark the spot. A late summer's night in 2016, all the generations of an entire nation came out to sing and sway, and offer our gratitude. History finds its high spots, too. Only this band. only this country, could make this happen. It was so beautiful. Six time zones wide.
I am proud we kept this Band to us !!!
Canada !!!
The house band !!!
I was on my way home in the horseshoe bay ferry when this happened, it will be a story I'll tell my grandkids when I'm older
I'm a true believer from Texas,....This is heavy,......
well Mike you have great taste music should unite us all you just made me a true Texas fan
I think you might be a head of a centuary
The night that the entire country sang together to honour Gord & the hip. A well deserved honour. So amazing❤
The time stopped for that night in canada! I remember working a busy night at work and the boss saying u should see this on TV... and he didn't even like the hip lol.
I wanna know who that couple was that brought their kids in pyjamas, thats just the best man, thats resilience and devotion right there
That would have made a GREAT pajama party though ^_^
they gonna have some deaf kids though
Johnny Critchley we brought our 2 year old out that night and she was up rocking out all night lol
Was awesome
Love the couple with the toddlers…an “I was there moment” if there ever was one!!!!!
This song hits harder on this date, and always will.
Freaking tears,....it's all been said. Canada's greatest L♥ve, "Tragically Hip". Will be TRAGICALLY missed. ♥
This is what a band means to a generation across the nation.
There is certainly more than one generation of fans that like them, but it is across the nation.
Crying like a baby! I’m from buffalo and the hip has provided me with so many unforgettable moments with friends and family! I’m blessed to have gotten to see them so many times! Thank you!!!
In 1993 I've heard this band in Belgium for the very first time. Wow, what a performance. How could I not become a fan?
In 1995 I bought a ticket for Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge Tour and yes ... the Hip were there again.
I've never heard them live again, but this band will always have a very special place in my heart. In Gord I trust! Long live Canada!
I remember watching this live on the CBC. Looking back now, I'm glad I watched this home all by myself. I cried so much through out the concert. No one needed to see that. RIP Gord.... you are missed....
cheers from the NWT, was greatful to watch it all on bunny ears over the air !
Lots of love for the Hip south of the 49th as well - Godspeed!
Cheers from my hometown of Bolton Valley, VT! Where a Canadian band I had never heard of came to town and my teenage self discovered a great band. I hate that I will never see them again, and I'll never regret splurging for those Kingston tickets to see the last one. Love you Tragically Hip!
He united the entire country as one mind, with nothing but positivity.
Steve Calling from the UK, Good luck to all you guys in Maple Leaf County, why didn't anybody tell me about Tragically Hip before? They're wonderful. God Bless Gord.
thanks bud you are a rather nice chap Go England
I remember this as if it were yesterday The Hip could have played all night and I never would have left miss you Gord Downie you made Canada proud
This is how humanity should function. Unified.
@Lone Wolf You must be a joy to be around.
@Lone Wolf Sure, that's what we'll go with lol. Can't just let people find joy in something they like and go about your own business, eh? For the record, YOU engaged yourself in this so-called "vapid mind garbage", so yeah, I'm sure you really are a joy to be around with your 'holier-than-thou' attitude.
Just know Canada wasn’t always like this we made a lot of mistakes in our past that made us change and become this
Humanity is in far too great of a state of ignorance for that to be the case, we only appear to be that way at special occasions that bring people to a common level
This folks is what makes Canadians, Canadian. And boy am I proud to be one !!
so am I
anyone else watch this about once a week?
Pretty much once a week, yes.
A true Canadian moment. Gordie and the Hip brought together a Nation to share it. RIP Gord .
by far that was absolutely beautiful. gord United a country just to share it. perfect. nice sentiment
This is amazing. From Illinois, and I don't know if our country could get this kind of response for any of our artists. We are too damned divided. Loved th TH since 1993. RIP Gord.
Agreed, you could go to any hip concert and find every race, religion, political ideology etc etc... When Gord was singing we were just Canadian
Only other group to come close was Barenaked ladies
I imagine if anybody were to pull it off, no question the one and only band and I would say pretty firmly no other band even comes close, it would have to be Aerosmith, u can imagine Steven Tyler announcing he hasn’t got long to live and they do one last tour across the US with their last concert in Boston, would definitely be something else
@@Rocker5593 Freddie Mercury comes to mind, it would have been off the charts. I consider him one of the best frontmen all time.
Me too. Well said.
Still get goosebumps 🥰✌️❤️🇨🇦🙏🏼
R.I.P 😢😢😢😭😭😭
So sorry from Mexico 🇲🇽
When I watch videos of bands playing to crowds of thousands, I always think about how cool it must feel to be a musician and have a sold-out arena singing your words back to you... but to have an entire freaking country doing so??? I can't even imagine.
I can't watch this without tears streaming down my face.
So much love.
Sitting here, 5yrs removed from this prolific event, and I still can’t stop the tears. I cry for everything we lost with Gord’s death, every lyrical blessing he bestowed upon us, every moment of harmony he still brings to our lives. He may be gone, it may be 2022, but In Gord, We Still Trust.
This is utterly heartbreaking and incredibly inspirational all at once. Shed a tear for Gord on 11/17/2018. A Canadian living in Atlanta, GA.
This song reminds me so much of my husband, my wonderful Canadian husband. It was our wedding weekend, we, plus my new BIL were driving to Venice FL and we put the Tragically Hip in the cd player and this song played..this song will forever remind me of that weekend..my husband and all the wonderful and amazing things he brought into my life. He is gone now, he died last June my incredible and strong hero. RIP Rob ~ till we see each other again ~ XOXO
Sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you.
I am soooo sorry for your loss... he will always be with you.. my daughter's Dad was killed when I was pregnant.... he shows me hes here.... every single day.................
well Sallie, Gord and Rob are chillin together now
Sallie, GoI pray that you and yours have a safe and warm holiday! God Bless again!
And that, that is how The Hip united a Country. 🇨🇦 ❤Huge love to all my fellow Canucks...Manitoba says Hello!
Im 51 and i still don't know how to watch this video without tears!!
There were even a few spots showing in here in Western New York!
Gordie you will be missed.....hopefully later rather than sooner...Even when he's gone,Tragically Hip will still live on!!
Whoever the 56 people are who had the nerve to hit "dislike", I hope your not Canadian. If you are move. If your not Canadian then how dare you! IN GORD WE TRUST!
I never met you, but I love and miss you on what should be your 58th birthday Mister Gord Downie.
Signed, a misplaced American grateful for Canada sharing this great gift.
I live in Halifax. I was so grateful to be given free tickets, free accommodation, and free plane tickets to the show in Edmonton on this tour. I flew from Halifax to Edmonton for 1 day, went to the concert, had an INSANE van taxi ride on the way back to the hotel with 5 strangers blasting Nelly, and flew back to NS the next morning.
For as long as I live I will never forget the entire thing and being part of Canadian history.
I watched this show with my wife and wept. As a long-time Hip fan South of the border, I want to say thank you Gord, thank you Hip, and thank you Canada.
Watched this at the trailer park. Watching from the deck across the street through someone’s window looking at their TV. We had the sound coming through the radio. Unreal experience. So special, glad I got to spend it with my dad and grandfather!
Now February 2022 and I didn't expect to see footage only of the audience. Thanks for that, couldn't keep it dry here.... so surreal and unfair and heart breaking. Miss you & love you Gord.
RESPECT from Seattle, so
much moving , powerful
music. THANK YOU ,HIP.
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This makes me cry every time I watch it. The expressions on the fans faces says it all. The end of a legend. Watching Gord sing his heart out and knowing he was dying. Such a tragedy for Tragically Hip fans and for our great country, Canada. Thank you, Hip, for making all my important memories keyed to your music.
I saw their last concert live in the basement of a pub in new york and it was still amazing. Wish I was there in the crowd though
My dad introduced this band to me (he is from winnipeg) its probably the best thing to ever happen to me
Cant imagine a band playing 30 + yrs wanting that last song to end
I watched from Mexico. Thank you CBC.
Sorry, I'm late to the TH experience.. greetings from VT...why did it take me so long to find this exceptional band? O know now why my Canadian friends have such an affinity for them...prayers for Gord...I'm.so sad and thankful at the same time. Words cannot express how I'm feeling.
Never too late their music lives on yes you won't ever see them live on stage but you still have all their recordings to listen to as long as we listen to the music Gord will always live on LONG LIVE THE HIP
Still get choked up watching this in 2024.
RIP Gord Downie.. thank you for all the great music and memories, and the work you did for us 1st nations people of Canada.. you will be greatly missed!!
I was in Ottawa watching it live on tv (and I was also pvring the concert). Love every minute of it. But what made it even more too real for me was when Gord broke down and my youngest daughter (at the time 4) asked why Gord started to cry on stage. I explained to her that he was very sick (didn’t want to scare her with the fact that he was going to die), she then turns around responding, “Mummy, he needs is a hug. I wish I could give him a hug to make him feel better.”
I watched this for the first time since that night ....and I cried like it was the same moment in time.