Behind the Hacks: The Origins of Anonymous | Cyberwar
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- The notorious hacktivist collective Anonymous has targeted everyone from PayPal to the FBI. So who are the people behind the group?
This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016.
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Meeting the FBI spy at a bar to confirm that anonymous are, in fact, anonymous, is brilliant.
Yeah that was pointless. Just not have got anything useful from that interview.
The only thing I got out of that is that governments don't like protests that they can't ignore
What I got from this is that Anonymous is the goverment.
They have to be in order to survive me
@@DonDaddaDanoDaDaneCalledDanno or reincarnation of 1840's~ jonn brown and his men, one of them i believe was Samuel price 😉, or early experience with UAW and coal mining protesters etc, government officials or elites will not contain that as this has been tried before historically and fails in some cases escalated into civil war etc
war crimes that anonymous members exposed was the right choice as if Germans 1946 can't do horrible things neither should the USA 🇺🇸 etc same for scumbag corporation/elites they should be held accountable for their choice's and actions equally, as far as some of A acts/method's im on the fences about or at least sympathy to as a group but count me out joining/associating them in general, political ( even mid-riots, as it's better to let steam-off then assignation/coo's happen etc ) protests should be protected as the other outcome is violence or failed-government which is worse outcome's
Nobody cares about hackers until someone wealthy loses money
Little shitty companies are being extorted now
@tropics8407 Thay just it, the feds don't care about the little guys. That's way ransomware and blackmail are so lucrative as long as you stick with the small fish
Those are not really hackers, they are phishing.
@davidmccoin2547 Yeah I mean you're not wrong. Hacker is pretty vague and broad definition. And a lot of scammers and phishers like to call themselves hackers
Well yeah, the politicians have to protect their sugardaddies. 😁
This video is 8 years old. We need a new updated one on them.
the struggle continues, what's to know?
Vice is dead bro we prob won’t get an update d
we are here
true
Why vice is trash 😂
The problem with trying to pin down Anonymous is that it’s not REALLY an organized group. There is a core of high level hackers that interact with one another, but it’s closer to a movement than a singular organization.
a core ? are you even on the IRC rooms ? hackers are a very small part of most ops everyone has skills to offer in most ops. And as for the hacking most ops use well know vulnerabilities known as CVEs no real pentesting needs to be done in most cases. You cant track down anon because we are all anon, No one face runs anon its a social movement
Exactly that they aren't centralized obviously
@@sud0gh0styou better check your opsec and get out of comment sections
@@sud0gh0stdude said what you just said lol
keyboard warrior with zero clue how to hack lol @@sud0gh0st
This program should be an hour long.
Oh yeah, would love that! ❤
Or longerrrfrrrr gadam could be wayyy longer
Should be a 3 hour long movie.
Mathematics!
I wouldn't watched it if it is an hour long.
Balance, my friend. Balance) ❤
to be clear: this episode is from during/before 2020. hammond was released Nov 2020
2016 according to the description.
22:24
yeah the video mentions that fact, dude.
@@Nauticunt mate, please don't comment if you can neither:
a. Watch the video in full
b. Refuse to read comments which answer your very question (within this comment thread in fact)
The video does state it, people have commented as such, and yet you chose to be ignorant?!
They're recycling videos because they're BROKE.
"everyone has rights or I don't have rights." Fckn gold right there
Just for a note. At 4:20, the point of the black faxes was so it would use all of the ink in the fax machine. It's funny and kinda genius.
I would have made it cyan 🤣🤣🤣
@@DubultaisT damn, some people really do wake up and choose violence
4:20 yeah
I was thinking the same thing, thanks for confirming 😂
Cyan cat faxes @@DubultaisT
Moral to the story.The state will go to any length to continue it's self appointed right to carry out their daily vile activities and their corporate enablers.
Of course. The “law” exists for us only.
The crazy thing is that if you really think about it, the corporations the government protects doesn't even contribute in a meaningful way. They're all evading taxes, etc. So what am I missing? Seems like the government would tell corporations "good luck"
Its starts with a J and ends in ěŵs. They are ew looking too
The corporations provide what the government can’t/ won’t do for the public. The two evils have so much to gain from supporting one another.
@@McToasterBathcorporations is how they run the country without being regulated and non profits
Shawn Henry recommends legal avenues of cyber protesting. I've tried protesting a local smelter and raising awareness to the danger of toxic metal fumes and Ring, the doorbell camera company, took down my posts and wrote that their service was not to be used for political purposes. Public Health should never be political.
WOW that is ridiculous
what happened? did u use your doorbell footage and post it online?
Local AQMD requires 6 or more people during off hours to call before they will dispatch an inspector. A lighter than daytime crew, large area to cover and contributions to local politicians and school district prevent any meaningful investigation. Most offgassing is done after business hours. The smelter is directly adjacent to a junior high school. An indoor gymnasium was even constructed with donations from the foundry. The odor is strongly metallic and slightly chlorinated. I have canvassed the area and neighbors report the issue when asked, but not really motivated to call or too busy to notice. Complacency is what this company is depending on to continue operating.
@Player-pj9kt Specifically, no. My Ring cameras only cover the immediate area. I typically would post a notification when they offgassed and provided the phone number asking neighbors to report the foundry. That was enough to get my posts removed.
Everyone knows ring can only be used for their own corpo political purposes.
"you can't jail an idea"
Every dictatorship tries anyway
ask the 7 from chicago
The people with the ideas however...
except China CCP
"Ideas are bulletproof"
-Vendetta
With the camera angles, those railroad tracks and that crossing, the fact Vice straight up gave his country of origin away (he said Canada, not me), it would be incredibly easy to pin Bio down. For a hacker he should probably know better. Makes me think Vice slapped a bandana on a kid and told him to start talking hacker.
I agree. I very much doubt the person interviewed in the end is the real Bio. And I don't think VICE intended for us to believe he was either.
It's just a stylistic choice to have someone stand in and act out Bio's answers rather than going the classic route of darkening or blurring the shots.
The Canadian government doesn't give two shits about some skid with LOIC. Anonymous has been a complete joke ever since it was founded and doubly so in the last few years, no one cares enough to track him down.
It could be a text interview with the real Bio. Then VICE found an actor and replayed the conversation.
I 100% know the area and have used it as a back up location for a music video in 2018
@@eluna34 Was it a flute video? Do people make flute videos? IDK
Man I wish they would go after the truly evil companies like insurance and credit bureaus.
They have done credit bureaus I believe, insurance companies have been regular hacked but likely would be a huge liability if they made a big public fuss.
However, I'm aware of scammers blackmailing an elderly man running a financial business and they nearly wiped him out. Really sad... But that wasn't anonymous, just scammers.
As an IT specialist, my honest best advice is to store as much private info in paper files offline.
For voting, in person, paper ballots with purple thumb ink.
Perfect security is impossible, especially if the software requires maintenance or logins that people often forget, so someone needs to gain access on a locked system, hence backdoors and keys for the IT specialists. So there's always a built in vulnerability besides any accidental ones. 😎👍
evil governments
They've gone after many people, companies, countries, etc. They're more about the world rather than just the US or one country. They've helped with finding evidence on the Epstein case, punishing bad leaders/government in diff countries, provided aid to people in need and more. They're not as insanely strict like they were in early 2000-2015 but they still do some stuff here and there. Early 2000s Anonymous were a bunch of demons LMFAO, no corrupted person/company/country was safe
Org’s like Anonymous are absolutely needed to defend regular citizens
Sure. But without the stupid masks
Untill they fixate on you. If they do, you’re history. Never give to much power to a nerd. Their self hatred will come out in ceros and ones
@@axelmenzel773 *too
@@charjl96they probably watching you right now while youre using your phone in the northern parts of somewhere.
@@parengthonycastillo4272 true
I used to be part of Anonymous while ago. We were a movement that was structured by a process, we were never an organisation. I still don't know anyone by names, we all used username, P2P channels, we had to collaborate on tasks that we believe they helped humanity in general and that was the only common thing. We voted on many things to avoid any bias in many decisions and that's pretty much it from my experience. I used to be part of operations in WikiLeaks about the Arab spring, the Israeli occupation, and US elections.
Thank you❤❤❤❤ you are being a voice for the voiceless and helping fight back against oppression
Oh you were? What was your handle back then?
I dunno if you remember me…
LMFAOOOO
Making the Guy Fawkes mask iconic.
Was the lady named Mercedez Nohaver? That names slightly funny if you think about it 😂
Esp since she probably "wouldnt be caught dead in a Mercedes", which her name reflects perfeftly 😊
@@jonslg240 yeh... I know right it did sound weird. She's cute though!
Guy fawkes did that bri the og terrorist
It's appropriate I guess. Fawkes ratted on everyone that he knew as well.
2007-2014 IT was wild
Kids today wouldn’t believe the things we did in our teens/early 20s 😂😂
Likewise 98-200X
Same, except even earlier. The days of when AOL was the main gateway that the average person had for getting onto the internet and broadband was right on the cusp of becoming widely available, were wild as hell, truly the wild west times.
Casual. It’s only gotten wilder. Kids today would run circles around you.
name one way @@Stryke_Gently
@Alan-gy9ws maybe you because you have a one month account but kids in the early 00's had some skills also
5:08 "scentogy cured my dislexia" 😂😂
“there are ways of protests that we allow and disrupting corporations is not one of them” -former FBI man
pre Reagan president railroaders and UAW and teamsters would love to force FBI man to reality that's false information historically but his right about corporation villains/violence ( and the ww1 bonus-army and president firing on veterans asking/peacefully protesting for assistance ) against average people in the USA 🇺🇸
in other words "you can protest in that corner but if you annoy the people that is causing you to protest in the first place I'll get very very cross"
fuk yo feelings
I like that Vice us posting or reposting stuff from 2016 and 2017, their best years.
I think them going to North Korea is their best years.
Agreed but I gotta say this is the vice content I like. Before I feel like the good doco outweighed the bad ones but the opposite now@@tecpaocelotl
@@tecpaocelotl
They shouldn't have come back.
i think vice basically went completely under.
? not sure they'd even have new content to publish
@@veryhuman7472 every now and then, a short piece comes out. But Vice as we used to know it is gone.
We need a report for Julian Assange..
He's probably dead now, unfortunately.
And most people won't even know who he was nor what he did
no he's not dead, iirc Australia recently turned in his favor
@@CockatooDude he isnt dead but he is in a very bad mental state
He's in jail in the UK, his wife, and 2 little kids still in London, all scared he will be extradited to the US, which would be very bad for him.
"There are "authorized" ways that people can protest." Spoken like a true authoritarian.
An "authorized protest" is not a protest, lol.
"The 90's called and it wants it's fkn security vulnerabilities back" hahahah
A DDoS attack doesn't necessarily crash a service, it simply floods it with noisy data so that the service cannot process legitimate data
So essentially it "crashes" the service, what you just described lol. Its in the name. Denial of service.
@@DoubleStandardGaming crashing implies it has stopped working completely. Overloading it through a ddos attack isn't strictly crashing it, it's just decreasingly the likelihood of authentic data being processed.
@@AnEntityBrowsingYTthat is true, but at some point like if only 10% of the processed data is legitimate, and, or, its users have problems its a crash. Todays ddos attacks are more sophisticated tho, and so are the counter measures. Its an ongoing battle for both sides.
The pizzas and black faxes is just gold.
I feel bad for the pizza guy.
We need a part 2!
As someone whos been around the block I can definitely confirm "none of these targets where particularly difficult to hack. A 3 year old could do it" is very true. I always tell people those systems aren't as secure as they make it out to be, and the small handful of people that have any kind of knowledge on them can easily find exploits. Or just take a system down entirely.
You are also trying to sound like you know what you’re talking about yet you don’t.
@@coolinmac I'm a Net and Sys admin who works for the government. You're a kid living In your parents basement trying to compensate for something.
The fact you provided 0 evidence already says enough about your claim.
Sounds like I'm a little more qualified to talk about what I, myself, know.
Go back to watching tick tock like a good kid.
@@silvy7394 a government sys and net admin isn't gonna openly state that on the internet, especially if you have a security clearance no ?
@@silvy7394 i believe you!
@@silvy7394
they provided as much evidence for their claims
as you did yours
Sounds like someone talking out of their (you know what) to me
just saying
it’s ironic @7:16 he says Stealing and breaching isn’t a way to go about something but this whole nation is built on that 🤦🏾♂️
Yeah a very messed up world we live in, with many ironies. Same as arresting drug dealers, yet the Gubment is the biggest drug peddlers around.
As is every other nation ever.
This is from their Cyberwar series and is quite old, seems many people don't know that. All episodes are a must watch!
if youre in anonymous, you never tell anyone that youre in anonymous
Wrong. Nobody is in Anonymous, and everyone is in Anonymous. It's NOT a group with members. Some rando calls out something, enough people agree and pass it on, making the round until enough people capable of taking action get wind of it. "We are Anonymous" is a call to action more than anything. Now you're Anonymous, now you're not. That's why enforcement will never be able to "catch everyone". They mostly catch individuals or small groups of friends that aligned behind a shared thought ideal.
It's called a Stand Alone Complex. =)
I just renewed my membership card for another 4 years gg
@@sanantohomieI thought u only played video games
@@mistakoolthe internetz is my video game as the infamous fox11 newscast on anon says " treating the web like a real life video game..." LOLZ
Nobody likes a snitch... Said no1 ever. Unless they went through some other unfortunate things but I am not about this life.This is ppl too intricate & patient for me. So, In short they snitched on each other & 1 side got locked up & the other whole 1 went and worked for the man? That should turn out great. Sounds like a movie.
been waiting for this one
Simple answer, anonymous isn't one group. It's a lot of groups and people with similar ideals.
it's such a good tactic, another group called ALF does the same where if you have the same ideology, you're a part of them.
We do not forget.
Love the command prompt at the beginning of typed on screen graphics.
The good ol days. When the internet didn't sucked
Anonymous is anyone anywhere and thats the power of it. if you understand
he’s all of us
I remember this, the stuff you were finding on 4chan was crazy
We miss this era.
I would have completely refused to appear on camera if I were him.
'authorized ways to protest' come on!
you're not the only one who caught that!
Wow wow vice nice job one of your best ones ever in years great doc,🎉
Salutes from Reynosa, Tamaulipas Mexico.
Dang, vice hasn’t put something this good out in a long while.
Right. Because it's multiple years old😂😂😂 smfh
hahahahaaaaa@@onlyhannahfans
It's from 2016. They're recycling materials. "This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016."
Dude looks so uncomfortable hunched over that table.
Thanks for sharing
if you talk to vice as a hacker, drugdealer or criminal you already lost.
depends on what you say during said interview
10:42 - My god, the joke, the socially awkward delivery, the pause after that lame programer joke. It's just some top notch quality cringe. Chef's kiss. 👌🏼
How did you manage to get all these guys on camera??? I’ve followed this story for years and I’ve never seen people like tflow and anon panda on camera
a lot of these guys are "tapped" out, meaning they are not active in ops. It wouldn't be a problem them coming out on camera
@@sanantohomie man how do they even find each other is 4chan still a thing or is everyone on discord now lol
We need an updated one
Salute. Great storytelling, really great work.
"theres nothing more dangerous than a bored hacker" *nerd emoji* ahhh
8:40 this is an amazing way to view equality
That fine line between genius and insanity...
The fact they admit how easy was to hack down corporate targets clearly expose how vulnerable is the system we live in.
Good stuff!
Hat-Tip to the hackers out there fighting the good fight
It's always fascinating to delve into the origins of significant movements and groups, especially in the digital age. Anonymous has certainly had a huge impact on the landscape of online activism and digital culture. Exploring their beginnings not only gives us a clearer understanding of their motives and actions but also offers a unique perspective on the evolution of internet communities and cyber activism. It's intriguing to see how groups like these have shaped the dialogue around digital privacy and freedom of speech. What an engaging and thought-provoking topic!
Is it an idea to put the original publication date of these docs in the title? I feel it's essential.
Side note, A LOT of British people still say Guy Fawkes (2:20) was the last person to enter parliament with true intentions - meaning we know every other person (politician) is a liar!
Anonymous does not exist anymore
"We Are The Many , They Are The Few" ... 💯%
"A three year old could do it"
Fam i gotta reset my passwords almost every time im asked. Not sure what three year olds this guys met. 😂
music balance is too loud for how quiet these interviews are
Thanks vice for keeping the public informed on current issues like anonymous
19:46 - "Bio could go to jail, if his identity is revealed".
*Basically shows the guys whole face, his voice inflection and body type*
That is not the real Bio, I can almost guarantee that it's a stand-in for what was a text interview or POSSIBLY a conversation over telephone (but I doubt it).
@@DiscoPornoSatan
I agree, DiscoPornoSatan.
That was my second thought. You would have to br incredibly dumb to show yourself in that way and where you are (wherever that bridge is), so it wouldn't make sense for someone who's truly wanted to out themselves like that.
Why they didn't go for just reading what he wrote, but instead wanting someone to appear on camera is just dumb. Sure it's better if you can hear the person themselves, but if it's not that person themselves, it's stoopid.
Just so I understand correctly, this is from 2016? Or parts of it are, and there has been some updates?
awesome video. wish there was more.
I am 6 minutes into this video and I must say. I am already sad thinking about it ending in less than an hour.
I heard that 4chan is a mongolian basket weaving forum, is that true?
He’s a hacker. But do we even know who is this person 4Chan?
it's a tendie trading hub
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassiveIt's true
Yes, there was much basket weaving.
Is OP /ourguy/?
These guys are the ones made me in love with IT and ended up learning Cybersecurity ❤
0:23 I really thought for a second the guy on the left was Harry Mack lol
Maybe they'll be back this summer 🤔
I happened to be one of the few people walking past Anonymous’ first gathering, a protest outside a Scientology center in Portland, like 20 years ago. My mother stopped and talked with the one guy there who wasn’t wearing a mask, a former prominent Scientologist. It’s crazy I had something to do with a turning point in history.
Erm, no you do not have anything to do with that. Stop overinflating your ego.
@@TheMrleeyang? Because I was a witness?
@@TheMrleeyang honestly, it’s strange you’d react with such animosity. It would seem you subconsciously connote some sort of inherent worth to someone who would witness what I did, which is even more strange, because I certainly didn’t imply that. It’s a weird thing to be jealous of. I’m sure there’s plenty of things you’re good at, so there’s no reason to react like that. Maybe seeing a therapist would be good, especially if you think speaking like that is normal or appropriate.
@@graceg3250 We call those ppl "haters" sir. They aren't living their happiest lives...
@@graceg3250 Nah...maybe you should see a therapist, dude. You're the one thinking you "had something to do with a turning point in history" just because your mom talked to someone who actually did.
Didnt Vice aready drop this epi years ago or am I buggin?
15:08 Sabu single handedly set back social progress. By getting Jeremy caught.
We are still here.
We Are Legion For A Reason.
blackdreamhunk2 is still here
moors were black!!!!!!!!
we love u bro
Anonymous isn’t an entity. It is a collective.
Wow so powerful dude 😮😱
A collective of virgins maybe lol
Anonymous is full of skids and always have been. They did basic attacks and always had. They weren't hackers but more of people who use hacking tools that were so basic but effective because the lack of security back in the day, they didn't create exploits/tools etc like an actual experienced hacker/pentester or lived up to their hype. Btw you sound cringey saying that just glazing anonymous
@@Marco-wz3pz
Virgin's who got results.
@@Marco-wz3pz It's funny, yet sad how idiots like you continue to portray tech-minded people as wimpy. Your insecurities are showing. 😭😂
Best Vice piece in a while
Who remembers when PlayStation was hacked back in the day . For a fat min as well
The FBI guy says "There are authorized ways to protest" ... Sounds like a "contradictio in treminis" to me.
what an absolute moron, I bet he cant even see the hypocrisy
I was in my elementary school days when Anonymous was big. I remember being intrigued by their mission and collective strength at a young age. To me, the Anonymous collective is synonymous with online childhood memories and the days before CZcams and Google became blatantly flooded with advertisements and censorship.
Glad it invokes good memories for you
yea well the name got co opted by a leftist mob defending assange, who broke hacker code revealing personal info.
We will not forget...
The way these hackers think, awesome.
We are legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect us
When You arrest someone, you create someone.
I need to see a part two big dog
Stories not over bro, get involved you can be part of "Part six"
This was really good!
Even just to spend the time to frame these shots, like the camera looking down on the street for the FBI meeting, and the camera placed at the top of stairs looking down vertically, which is super unusual when you think about it. Awesome production!
I respect the hell out of these guys.
and girls*
Why? If they hacked into your computer and exposed your life would you feel the same? They exposed serious state secrets, that's why they are called secrets. If they hack into a criminal org. it's fine with me, but who are these young kids to determine who needs hacking?
@@sniferlip because the state shouldn't have secrets. In a democracy, everyone should be equal and share the same knowledge. No one group or individual, whether government or the wealthy, should have power over everyone else.
@@sniferlipSo you trust the NSA with all your data but the other way around is too much?
Do you remember the war crimes that were uncovered with these leaks?
People risk jail just to reveal the horrors executed by the state.
You assume most governments aren't criminal organizations @@sniferlip
The lack of eye contact is strong in these interviewees
as long time member of original /b/ anon operations and the anon ops movement this is cool to see
I gotta watch this.
Isn't this a re-upload / re-edit again vice no new content?
Re-re-prechewed gum err footage for suretain B!#@$#%es EDIT:Of a vv worthwhile topic. ps: sabu had new tools once turned by feds, make your own mind up but not a stretch to imagine the lulz crew were setup, abuse of gov power, again^3. ps BBrown is free thxgod!
Amazing information. Also histoy made!!
That watch dogs 2 mission makes a lot more sense now shout out jimmy siska
Vice News High quality documentry Producer.
Is it just me or nerdo needed the subtitles more than tflow
10:41 - 10:45 😂😂😂😂 bro really thought he ate that one look at his face! Haha.
Thank you Vice