Explaining Elsa X Jack Frost
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The best part of this video was Sarcastic calling Anna "Anya".
I would say he watched too much soy x family... but i know for a fact that there is no limits to how much you can rewatch the show. Also is my niece's favorite anime so i get it.
@@julianmartinez4719 that name existed pre-spyxfamily, but he might have got it from there
@@julianmartinez4719 I love soy x family, the anime where a secret plant man dates a secret different kind of plant and they're a family
My actual name is Anya (always has been, I didn’t change it after spy x family like most of my friends initially thought) and I had to reboot my brain every time he said it 😂
Doesn’t help that when the movie first came out people kept calling me “Anna”
How the turntables have tabled
I swear i thought i was hearing things 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bet he watched spy family while writing the script 🤣
You can't deny that this ship works REALLY well on a surface-level.
everything the internet makes works on the surface-level
@@10tailedbijuu not everything
It’s a 7 year age gap tho.
@@SamExceptNotSam Wdym?
@Hayden Berends Elsa is 21 in Frozen and Jack is 14
The only reasons I got into the ship were because Elsa and Jack were kind of iconic for being isolated and lonely, despite showing sides of themselves that love connecting with people. Elsa has learned to be stoic and controlled, and Jack being all “snowballs and fun times” could really help her get back in touch with her fun loving side again. Then Frozen 2 came around and elevated Elsa’s status in the realm of the magical, and when I analyzed where the film left her off I realized that she could either still have a human life span and grow old with her sister, or she’d fully embody an elemental spirit and become immortal, eventually outliving her sister and her kingdom and everything she ever knew. She’d become jaded, isolate herself again, and Jack could come along in modern times to bring joy back into her life. Plus, Atohollan seemed to work in a way similar enough to the way Jack became a guardian that you could connect those worlds with a fanfiction. A frozen River of memories gives a girl ice magic, and you’re telling me a boy drowning in a frozen lake and being revived without his memories but with ice and wind magic aren’t connected? He even talks to the wind like Elsa does with Gale, he says “Wind, take me home!” I’m sure Jack would appreciate an elemental goddess like Elsa telling him the wind has had a name this whole time. They just fit together like two peas in a pod, and I’m unapologetic in how much I love them together.
OH MY GOD I LOVED RISE OF THE BRAVE TANGLED DRAGONS! Such an intriguing challenge fitting those stories together, then fitting other stories into it like Frozen and Moana. I loved the characters, I loved the worlds they set up, and I love fantasy so I liked imagining a world where all those elements could merge and my favorite characters could meet.
This is spot on. The canon story of frozen 2 is set up so perfectly to seam well with rotg canon story. Ik this crossover will never happen, but the material available is perfect fodder for fanfic writers to draw inspiration from. It is not surprising why this ship got so popular even after 10 years.
@@otterlyadorbs I wonder if any Jelsa fans worked on Frozen 2 🧐
@@v.v365 I mean… there are some artists who works at Disney who openly ship jelsa sooo…. 👀
I haven't looked up a fic for them since like 2015 (so before frozen II), but that might need to change. This is a good point haha
With Disney and Dreamworks history, this ship feels like it has a Romeo and Juliet element that is always a pro for shippers.
And then there's the Lin Kuei, they would do the same thing to them as they did to Hanzo's clan
Considering that both Elsa and Jack Frost have ice powers, the ship makes a lot of sense unlike the ones where she's hooking up with Spider-Man (I'm looking at you, Elsagate).
I think that one makes more sense when we consider algorithm elements, Spider-Man is super popular with young boys, and frozen was super popular with young girls, and both had decent overlap. The content in those videos made no sense, but the shipping itself kinda did
@@gameb9oy not really
Yea that’s why people really shipped them
Isn’t Jack like…15?
@@TherealDenji843 actually 18
I remember clearly the very first time me and my family went to watch Frozen, and as I sat there watching Elsa sing Let it go, my sister, who was in her teens at that point, suddenly muttered 'I ship her with Jack Frost' and I just gave the slowest turn to her direction...
Edit: I live in the Philippines so the movie schedule is kinda delayed when compared to anywhere else, so I'm pretty sure she just got that from somewhere else, most likely Wattpad or a random yt video. She is definitely not the first.
HELPP 💀
SHE WAS THE FIRST 😭
Wheeeeeze 😂😂😂😂
@@LakeofCrystalclan She was the first. SHE HAS SEEN EVER-RY THING!- Chika
PLEASEE she popularised it
Independently of your opinion on this ship, can we talk about how beautiful most of the fanarts for Jelsa are?!?!?
Bro those artists were so good.
That's what brought me into it the 1st time lol
Kinda reminds me of the Hilda/N wedding artwork that got me back into Pokémon.
No. I find them offensive.
@@joeleboeufwhy?
I think it's quite obvious. Elsa is the Snow Queen, and in most fairy tale, the Snow Queen was known to create winter along with Jack Frost. Given that both were based after ancient fairy tale characters, they're destined to be together.
They're like 6 years apart
@@idaf3028 True
@@idaf3028Rapunzel and Eugene are 7 years apart.
@@idaf3028306 years, more like.
@@joeleboeuf isn't that a theme for like... every fantasy book? I don't wanna be rude buuuuuuuut... it's way more reasonable than most random ships
I remember this was a thing, and thought it was cute. Years later I still like this.
Same here!
Same, I think people should be able to ship whatever they want. No matter how weird it is.
Trust me, I know some weird ships.
I don't know why but I'm always attracted to rarepairs. 😅😅
I hate and love that I agree with you 😂
I used to be a huge Jelsa shipper when I was around 10 years old. Even as a 17 year old who hasn't been in the fandom in ages I still kinda think it's cute.
This! I still find it cute 😊
This proves to me that the internet will do anything no matter what when it comes to shipping
Shipping is sometimes cring but there are better ships out there.
@@mrs.muycoskitchen9562 Ah yes Cring truly one of the words of all time ☝️ 😂 you made a spelling mistake
Oh fans will go crazy in order to find ships, I don't even like jelsa but I can see why it exists... but there are so many other far more unthinkable ships, yes I'm looking at you Lorax fans, I'll never forget what you did to the Onceler
Should I tell you about "Grony"?
Shipping is fun so why not.
Tbh when I was a 12 year old with a bit of a crush on Jack, accidentally discovering Jelsa when scrolling through Pinterest was like a revelation to young me. 10 years later and I still adore fandoms, FanFiction, and geeking out about stuff like this.
This ship used to be one of my favs. It works so well just like you said, but also because other characters' dialogues fit so well. The boogey-man obviously feeds on fear which is explained in the movie, while Grand Pabbie told Elsa when she was younger that fear would be her enemy. This can cause the boogey-man to go after someone like Elsa who feels alone to which Jack can then come in and help her. They balance each other out.
Yes! There was jelsa fic I used to read called Ice Alliance that incorporated that idea and it worked really well. Like it’s kind of crazy how well the lore of both movies can fit together. It just makes the ship even better cause they have so many canon reasons to be brought together.
Well I mean it does kinda make sense for them to be together, not just them having ice powers, both were literally willing to die for their sisters, both were/felt isolated at one point (Elsa locked herself in her room because she thought it would keep Anna safe from her out of control ice powers, Jack was banished by the other Guardians for being a screwup essentially and went into solitude because of it), and both were chastised by the public (Elsa was chastised by the Duke and everyone was afraid of her once her ice powers were revealed, Jack wasn't taken seriously by the other guardians because they thought he was a screwup which is also why none of the kids could see him because no one believed in him since the other guardians kept him hush hush)
Even though I know a lot of people say Elsa would give Jack the cold shoulder, I do think they have a lot in common and at the very least would be friends.
Exactly! They'd be that close pair that can understand each other when the other is feeling down. Plus, a lot of fics I've read of the two most often always starts with Elsa giving him the cold shoulder XD
True but I feel it just rounds back to ice, and fire. Both are just really edgy powers to have.
And they both have younger sisters...
Elsa wasn't willing to die for her sister, Anna sacrifces herself to saved her from Hans. Beside that yes both felt isolated and sad during a while and have ice powers as well as pretty hair. I can see them playing with their magic, two friends having fun together 🙂
seriously i don't think that elsa will do that.
I meant... similar appealing designs, similar powers, similar existential angst, movies came out around the same time. Makes sense to me
maybe Disney created a movie with a similar main character because they’re rivals with Dreamworks lol
The only Problem is age. But i mean our parents are also not the greatest example. Wait isn't frozen Set in the 19 hundreds? If it is then it's not a Big Deal.
Let's be real though... Elsa and Jack Frost almost have more chemistry than Kristoff and Anna. XD
Yes broo you're right❤❤
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I'll never not laught at that Zuko/Elsa edit and also I wholeheartedly agree with the point that Jelsa looks good on thumbnails due to styles matching.
I now need a zuko x elsa crackship LMAO
Some fandom ships are beyond understanding. However, I think it's fine if a ship makes 0 sense as long as it's not problematic
Shrek x Shadow the Hedgehog?
Damn, you have a really cute pfp
I don't even care if it's "problematic" as long as It can get a chuckle out of me, I'm in
Bruh who cares if it's problematic tho? Anything in fiction is legal, no matter what purists want to say. Hey, and even non-fiction ships are technically legal. Even fucking Hollywood and other big film/TV companies are big on real person fiction with their weird little dokus or interpretations of real peoples relationships 🫥
I have simple tastes: the crazier, the better.
Am I the only one who liked rise of the guardians? Like the Jack Frost story is so sad it just sits with me it’s one of those moments I had to just realize could happen to anyone when I was a kid. Like I didn’t grow up going out on frozen lakes because the lakes were never frozen like that but I had to accept that you can just lose somebody that fast freaking weather!
It's a bit of a cult classic, but I've heard of many people who enjoyed it.
You're not alone, I love it
I liked rise of the guardians.
Same, I love that movie. I surprise that some people don't know the movie since I saw it a lot on television during Christmas (and also the explosion of Jelsa on the Internet and CZcams).
Then again the movie was old and there is only one movie about it, not many meme and the percentage of people knew who is Jack Frost (not as a character but like the folk tale) are quite low (which is ironically what the movie's whole plot is about). So it's not surprised how not a lot of people saw it. But I swear, when people finally see it, they are ready for a good movie.
I remember it being really good, but unknown and could never understand why.
I shipped this. Still like it to this day. I think my favorite part is how Jack is the guardian of Fun and Elsa as a character clearly lacks that in her life. But also, just the fact that Jacks whole thing is that he wants to be seen while Elsa just wants to disappear and be left alone. The angst and how these two has and how much you can do with them is so good
Personally I loved Jack Frost as a character. He hit like all my favorite tropes. Weirdly enough can’t help but feel like he could have been better off if he wasn’t in a seasonal movie
You didn't know where they came from?! Tumblr created this AU years and years ago where they combined ROTG, Frozen, Brave and How to Train Your Dragons (and later Tangled). They saw all these cute white aesthetic teens and edited them all wearing edgy clothes, or hanging out together, maybe even one on one -- and boom, Jack/Elsa edits galore. People saw their surface level similarities and loneliness and built the ship that sails today. Everyone say thank you to Rise of the Frozen Brave Tangled Dragons for this mess
no, not going to thank the internet for one of the near infinite amount of messes it makes.
It was cuz of a cosplay where their characters' interacted in a video
He literally says that in the video
Ao3 peaked here for child me
I do remember that series vividly from when I was younger..the tumblr posts and youtube vids went kinda hard with the lore surprisingly
I think Jack being so unknown actually helps this ship. For anyone who didn't see his movie, he looked like he could have been a character planned for Frozen 2 since the art styles do match so well
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I still find it weird that rise of the guardians is not famous because I used to watch it all the time because it could technically count as any holiday film
Fun Fact: If you miss Jack Frost's voice. The voice actor is the main character in the live action Dungeon and Dragon's movie
Hes also gonna be the king for the new Disney movie Wish
Chris pine?
@@idaf3028 yup
As a Jelsa shipper veteran, this just awoke something that I buried deep down below for years. My mental health could never-
But funny thing is I still like it and enjoy because it so wholesome
As a huge Jelsa shipper since the early days of The ROTBTFD fandom, this video was unexpected yet greatly welcomed! From a narrative and personal aspect, Jack and Elsa were absolutely ripe with possibilities of what you could do with them: Whether it be stories, fan-art, edits etc which is one of the main reasons I've always loved them. Plus, along with being in the fandom and making lots of online friends, they were my first introduction into fanfiction and writing it so they always held a special place in my heart for that
Awe, this actually really wholesome.❤
@@japbstudios It really was. Part of me misses those times
@@dragonuprising8378
I get that. But as much as they may be missed, you now get to experience new times, bigger and better.
Maybe even with the same friends. I hope you and your friends are still close and all doing well.
I wish you the best of luck!😊🍀
@@japbstudios Fortunately, majority of us are still close so that's a plus. Thank you for the kind words and I hope the best for you as well
I wished other brands had that amount of comunity. The closest we have is the Undertales Aus
Gotta be honest they do look great together
As a Jelsa shipper it's one of those ships that actually makes sense in my opinion if you deep down and understand it you can understand why lots ship it and plus I would definitely like the two to be in a actual movie together, also I would love a sequel to rise of the guardians but if it doesn't happen since it feels like Dreamworks forgot about it a Jelsa movie I'm Definitely fine with. Both experience similar problems and since both of them have ice powers it could show their love to each other more.
I’m so glad AMV edits are getting the love they deserve. Those masks/photoshops are so amazing!
I've never read fanfics on this ship. The first time I ever heard about it was when my college friends started joking about the bad blizzard we had in Canada being a result of them fighting, in my best friends words "Damn looks like Elsa and Jack are fighting again" then a gust of wind and snow hit our faces as we where waking downtown. 😂 ever since then ever time we had a bad snowstorm we blamed it on those two as an inside joke.
The shipping potential for these two is amazing. Like, Elsa would've known earlier that she isn't alone in this, and there's someone out there who's like her, and Jack would've shown her that her powers are a gift and not a curse.
I was a part of this fandom back in the day, and yes, I was also part of the group that shipped Rapunzel and Jack more. I was subscribed to the accounts that went to have millions in views and it was honestly so much fun back then. The editors basically had started out with other crack pairings of the 2D movies, like Sinbad and Jasmine, Jim and Ariel, those kinds of pairings. So it was a day in the park for them to make edits of non-canon pairings. When Jack and Elsa rolled around, they did more of what they started with. Being a part of that Non/Disney edits time was so great.
The reason I vibe with the cracked ship is
1: aesthetic
But 2: Jack and else could learn from each other (like in an actual relationship)
- Jack doesn't care about anything and takes everything as fun and games because he has no purpose or goal.
-Elsa takes everything seriously because she has to as a social recluse having the title of queen thrust upon her.
> Jack would interact with Elsa and teach her that relaxing and not letting your burdens weigh you down is healthy
> and Elsa could teach Jack that he needs to have more responsibility and take his (life?) into his own hands instead of waiting for his purpose to be dropped in his lap.
The thing that makes this ship what it is, is the duality of character development that each character got and the MANY ways that can be imagined for them meeting.
1_Perhaps Elsa was born and had an experience with Jack Frost that GAVE her powers like his and now he has to guide the girl whose life he ruined.
2_ perhaps Jack was visiting the mountains where he could play with the snow and ice without the reminder he can't be seen and finds a runaway Elsa.
3_ Maybe Jack is the source of all ice magic and gave Elsa the gift as a kid so her and her sister could have fun and he saw how it made things worse and he disappeared in regret and shame then comes back in the third movie to explain who he is and why he exists and what he did and how he's sorry (turning him from a romantic interest into a plot development cause we still have no idea how Elsa got her powers... 🙄)
Point being. I understand the ship and support it even though I realize it probably won't happen. It's not too far a stretch though, plot-wise.
I mean, I honestly agree with their personalities agree and I wished that this ship would happen but Dreamworks and Disney hate each other I'm pretty sure so it's not gonna happen unfortunately
I'm not shipping them and never took any actual interest in this ship but I don't have to think more then 10 seconds about both of their characters to perfectly understand why Jelsa is as big as it is.
Its not just the ice powers, it's the isolation they suffered through and both deeply love their little sister who they sacrificed themselves for/ put themselves in danger.
Also their personalities work great as a ship dynamic.
I don't need to ship it to understand why this caught on as much as it did x)
I didn’t even know this ship was a thing until 20 seconds ago…
Edit: So apparently this is a huge shock to everyone 🤣 honestly I’m always on the internet and I just somehow never came across it back then.
how??
Same
Oh you missed out on an interesting era of the internet 😭
Me too but it also makes sense.
You lucky soul 😅 even those who didn't do shipping were bombarded with this ship
As someone who was intimately acquainted with the *weird-ass thing™* that was Httyd x Brave x Frozen x Tangled x RotG AND Percy Jackson in my youth, I am realizing that A LOT of things about this channel make so much more sense with the knowledge that Sarcastic Chorus was a Percy Jackson kid.
People can’t seem to be okay with characters being okay with being single.
You miss the whole point of being a shipper. In essence you ship your favorite character for cute happily ever after endings. If Elsa wasn’t a favorite, she WOULD be single.
So what, they plan to stay single forever? Dying alone isn't something to look up to, my guy.
@@ohklahoma7376 I am Aromantic. The thought of a romantic entanglement with someone else is repulsive to me.
What's wrong with shipping characters like that?
People can't seem to be okay with characters being in relationships because apparently that's not girlboss enough. It's cool if someone's single. It's equally cool if they're not. If Elsa finds a guy that makes her happy that's just as valid as her being happily single. You've missed the point of romance, let alone Jelsa as a whole.
I like that this video is way more about fandom culture than the ship itself
Shoutout to everyone who was there for Rise of the Brave Frozen Tangled Dragons. What a time that was on the internet.
I remember being so excited to read Merricup fics during my middle school field trip 🕴️
The what
@@sarcasticfanstic It was a crossover between five movies (Rise of the Guardians, Brave, Frozen, Tangled, and How to Train Your Dragon) created by the fans of all these movies. It was people imagining that these movies took place in the same universe and thus all the main characters were friends, or dating, or just interacting in some capacity. Very popular in the early 2010s and was one of the major subfandoms in the overall Disney fandom at the time. Jelsa (Jack and Elsa) was one of the most significant thing to come out of this.
@@elle-24 I heard of jelsa before but never R.o.t.b.f.t.d , and heard I thought that reading gta and infamous fanfic was weird lol
@@sarcasticfanstic Yeah, jelsa was definitely a ship that breached containment and became well known outside of the fandom. Usually discovering the ship is what led people into discovering The Big Five fandom (which is what people often called it since saying all the names is quite a mouthful lol)
Now that I think about it, it makes sense, ice powers, white/blond hair, blue eyes, similar 3D artstyle. I've seen both movies although it has been a long time. It would be cool to see them animated in one movie starring as main characters but I know it wouldn't happen. It would be cool to see them learn each other's ice powers.
I'm so happy this video has been made!! I've been a Jelsa shipper since 2013 (like REALLY early Jelsa) and there's a crew of us still out there who make content. We had a discord which I believe is still running if anyone wants to join. Great video overall!!
I gotta admit, 11 yr. old me’s dark secret was using my mom’s phone just to watch AMVs/fan-made stories/fake trailers of Jelsa and then clearing the search history 😂😭
I remember watching Jelsa videos
SAMEE
Same except I didn't care and never wiped the search history lol
Same bro 💀💀💀
Same, expect I had my own phone and would watch at like 3 am TvT
I screamed "YES!!" so hard when the Percy Jackson pictures came up, best book series ever for me.
The only reason I'm still delusional for Jelsa is because someday, somehow, someone will pay attention to the internet and see there is a mine gold to be made if they can borrow Jack Frost for a trilogy ;).
Isn’t jack a kid?
😂😂
@@It_Is_Oylenox He died when he was 17, and Elsa is 21, I don't think the gap is to much.
@@gustrubio minor x old enough to drink? Idk man seems weird. It’s less the age gap, more the fact he’s a minor tbh
@@It_Is_Oylenox he also lived as a spirit for 300 years, not sure if would still consider him a minor.
Thanks for not limiting your explanation to an "ice-ice thing".
I´ve been in this fandom since it started. Jelsa is not just about the aesthetic or just giving Elsa a boyfriend because she is a woman and she has to be in a relationship with a man (sarcasm), NOP. Jelsa is more than just that, we don't ship them because they are woman-men or just for the ice powers, it's for WHAT they are. Two spirits with a hard and lonely existence. They would understand each other because they had been through the same things (isolation, not being understood, being different from everyone, etc.)
shiping doesn't need to have sense, it's for fun. But it would be great if Jelsa happens. I would love to see a heartwarming movie with these two developing their relationship (platonic or romantic), learning for each other, and above that, finding someone that is just a little bit like them (Into the Unknow reference).
A sharp-eyed fan spotted Jack on one of Ahtohallan's stones in Frozen 2. Have you seen it before? I had to zoom in a lot to notice it, but it was there. Anyway, I would be very happy if Jelsa became a reality.
Yeah I remember this ship was extremely popular and when this ship was going on you had Merricup(Merida x Hiccup) and that opened the rabbit hole known as Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons and then later Rise of the Frozen Brave Tangled Dragons. But if I'm being honest I would love if Disney and Dreamworks can put aside their differences and make this idea a reality.
God I remember being in tumblr during the ROTBTD craze, because I was *obsessed* with the movies there back in middle school. Actually, back when Frozen was marketing before the movie even came out, I vaguely remember people who shipped Jack and Rapunzel had this entire AU where it was Elsa and Anna who were their kids. I do believe the ROTBTD fandom started to die out mainly when people start to add Frozen and other movies into the mix, which made it a lot more cluttered but. It's crazy to think about fandom wars and seeing how *giant* the Jelsa ship became. Those ship wars were very amusing to watch.
I agree it's a little cringy but this ship is my childhood and as ridiculous as it is, I have so many good memories with it because I made so many internet friends and I have so much fun shipping it with my irl friends that even now I couldn't possibly hate it. I was embarrassed of those memories but oh boy what I would do to go back to those simpler times XD
Bonus: It's the fact that they are from different studios, so many Jelsa shippers are intrigued by it! Especially since they are from RIVAL studios. The ice powers may be the main reason but I remember many perceived this ship as a "Forbidden Romance" as there's no way Disney and Dreamworks would collab and they think it's powerful that they go against their creators. Is it ridiculous? Absolutely XD
Another main reason is that she’s single, so fans could either ship her with anyone they wanted without people bringing her partner up, or fans could feel the need to give her a partner since almost every other main character in Disney who is a female has one.
Hey, don't let the concept of "cringe" prevent you from enjoying stuff. You wouldn't believe how many modern social norms are considered inappropriate in different places and different times. Shipping culture is pretty fun. People make nice artworks, do a pretty good job at fanfics sometimes, and it encourages mingling with people sharing the same interest.
Going to be honest, I really expected and wanted Kristoff to get with Elsa, not Anna. That pairing just made so much more sense to me. Kristoff loves ice, but because he works with ice would thus respect how dangerous it can be, and he even compliments Elsa's ice palace as beautiful.
I never understood why ROTG didn’t do good and is forgotten. 😢 It’s one of my favorite movies from dreamworks😍
I remember when people wanted Elsa to date a fire princess.
Actually Fire Queen, in the "Frozen" books there is a character called Summer Queen Marisol that Elsa seems to fall in love with at first sight with the woman when she sees her. They have several interactions that are reminiscent of a first novel, but after this book the relationship was forgotten. Elsa's relationship with this woman was actually the reason for #GiveElsaAGirlfriend using an image from the book as the campaign cover.
I am sometimes afraid that this might become an actual thing someday. With Mugman having a crush on Cala Maria in the new Cuphead show (which officially gets this bizarre ship out of crack territory), nothing can surprise me anymore.
I am literally praying that Disney doesn’t make that ship canon, I don’t know why but it just seems like something Disney would do. Dreamworks probably wouldn’t, but Disney.. yeah.
@@bruh-js7tz if they are desperate for money...
@@valentinkambushev4968 so it's definitely gonna happen them
That probably won't be happening anytime soon since the Kraken movie is coming out with the villain - the mermaid looks exactly like Ariel :v
My nightmare is of this ship becoming canon
They really have a lot in common.
Ice powers
Both sacrificed their happyness (and even life in Jack's case) for their sister.
Both lived alone for a very long time
Fear is their main adversary
Fifth Guardian and Fifth spirit
Ecc...
Jelsa is one ship I don't care how impractical it is, I accept that it is a crack ship, i still ship it. Some of the art is really cute, and their frosty/icey aesthetic fits with each other, its not surprising people ship them. They are better suited than some other crack ships i've seen. Yes its impractical, but interest does as internet does and the fact they're from competing studios - gives a nice forbidden love angle too!
Me & Friends were fully invested in this non-existent nonsensical couple's relationship and its problems. We'd have full style lunch table conversations about it as if they were in fact very real people.
Same. Saaame.
@@LangkeeLongkee Good ol'days
Damn this is nostalgic. I was obsessed with these two and the ROTBTFD fandom back then. The fan art was pretty good
As a kid who actually watched and loved rise of the guardians who then loved Frozen... I was aware of this ship. I didn't watch much of the content because I didn't do shipping when I younger but I knew of it.
But this video does help explain why ElsaxJack was popular beyond ice aesthetic.
It took me a while to drop my envy and closed-mindedness to understand why this ship was a thing, and while I still don’t ship them, I can see why people do and I don’t find it as annoying to see now. It’s no surprise to me that people will ship characters with similar powers and backgrounds or aspects of their character. It’s kind of expected. At least it’s kinda cute to me. What you said pretty much lines up with what I understood
If you are crazy enough to do this, then I'm wondering when a Mordecai and Twilight ship analysis will be. That has always simultaneously given me a bunch of paradoxical emotions that leaves me saying *“whaaaa...?”*
ahhh the wonders of the shipping culture, where logic and reason goes out the window for the enjoyment and conflict it presents, u definetly gotta love it either way
I'm was a die hard Jelsa fan when I was 13/14 and even now I can still see the potential between those two
Reminder most of the Jelsa shippers were minors, minors do not always think about age dynamics or ick factors.
Minor nitpick: that's not what a crackship is, not exactly. Crackship is a ship that people ship ironically, or because it would be funny. Elsa x Olaf is in most cases a crackship - it's not that they look good together, or have great chemistry, or exploring their dynamic would be interesting. More likely, it's just that "lol, Disney princess kisses the funny snowman (who is also kinda her son, depending on how you look at it) isn't that craaazy?!". Just because everyone knows Jelsa is never going to be canon doesn't mean it's a crackship; as long as it has significant unironic appeal, it's not a crackship. In fact, I find it hillarious that someone can at this point be so shocked that crossover ships (that is, shipping characters from two different mediums, universes, what have you) are a thing.
No, that’s a subset of crackshipping. Crackshipping in general is used to refer to any ship deemed unconventional. It can mean shipping a pairing ironically/for the lolz/weird reasons, but overall it just means that there’s little to no canon foundation for the ship. It can be used to refer to a ship between characters from the same franchise/story who never spoke to each other, or who exist in different timelines, or a multitude of other reasons. Jelsa most definitely can be considered a crackship based on the fact they come from completely different franchises and timelines
@@contactfront5212 Depends on yours definition of a crackship, I suppose? Again, I am absolutely not weirded out by two conventionally attractive, 100% human beings of the same age and with similar characters and backstories (and of course drawn in a similar art style), who are single in canon at that, being shipped together, even if they come from different franchises. Crossover shipping in and of itself isn't grounds for the crack status, in my opinion, but I guess if you have a lower tolerance for fandom nonsense than me...
I honestly think its interesting to think about why Elsa could be the only adult that could see Jack.
Perhaps she’s always believed in the legend of Jack Frost her entire life because she wants to think there really is someone out there who not only has power over ice, but happily embraces it like a gift.
this not JUST a crackship- it's peak shipping of two characters from different shows.
this is what shipping should be like in any form, have some coherence and chemistry(having an actual healthy relationship). it's such a lost art that I, a fourteen y/o chronically online shipper, can barely remember. all I wish for is this art of shipping makes it's comeback.
Ah this takes me back. I actually found out about them from pinterest when I was like 13. There was a harry potter AU that was huge. There were also a few korean and japanese artists who would make amazing fanart/fancomics which added to the legitimacy for some reason. And boy do I remember the drama between the Jelsa and Jackunzel shippers. I think you hit it on the head in terms of why people shipped it. It's funny because for the life of me I don't know why I was so into it, but I do look back fondly haha.
Might actually be the perfect couple, Jack could help teach her how to control her abilities as he's been doing it for far longer than she has.
any other magic user in any other franchise could do that
@@10tailedbijuu and that's how you get Elsa x frozone
"They're both ice themed and hot"
Yeah that summarises it well xD
7:56 THAT THING was my actual first fandom. Ah, this video brought back memories. I remember at 10 years old using all the screen time my parents let me have to look up rise of the brave tangled dragons hogwarts au on google images. I even wrote my own fanfic, which was the first fanfic I actually published! Damn, what a time. My first phone's gallery is still, to this day filled with fanarts and fanedits.
7:35 "There's no point in finger wagging over this,"
Dipper and Wendy and Ferb and Vanessa want a second opinion.
Sometimes the AMVs are incredibely done because it would look like the two actually came from one film together
So this wasn't an acid trip I had
This is way more interesting than what they actually did for Elsa in the movies.
I was so obsessed with this when i was younger that i even had reoccurring freams where dreamsworks and disney teamed up to make a scene with them meeting eachother.
"Because unlike other people, I had less cringe things to do."
🐟 PERCY JACKSON 🐟
"Look, we all made choices..."
This unlocked memories I had suppressed for YEARS. Still, it's always fun looking back at it
6:13 ‘anya’ hes stuck in spy x family mode
It's very true that as a child this was just fun content to consume. And it looked so real that my 8 year old self just believed these edits I saw because it looked cool and the idea people had entertained the kid me. Now that I'm older I finally see how it's many fandoms mixing into one, but still it was my introduction into fandoms in general and was mostly positive and pure for a kids Fandom from what I saw until I was 13 and found fanfiction buts that's another story and if it's just CZcams edits most of the time kids will be safe in that type Fandom. Somewhat back then and hopefully in some parts now 😅
For a little while I thought that Jack Frost was omnipresent in fandoms. I'd be looking into a completely unrelated fandom and BAM, Jack Frost crossover ship.
I guess his stands had a season of massive production, that's how I learnt of his existence and watched his movie.
The only reason I can see this ship being a thing is cause they both have ice powers and they have some tragic backstories, but that's all...
But like explained before... that is plenty lol, people can ship characters who only have seen eachother once, in this case not even that
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I'm just saying, this is the only Crack ship that I can fully make sense of. But even then, it's still ridiculous
@@ScarleSimpMikaelOre I've seen ships where one character knows about a character because they learned about them in a book
All our examples are just the ice on the surface too (heh),there's so many more insane examples
@@daniboy4153 have you seen Shrek x Shadow the Hedgehog?
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No, but that doesn't shock me at all.
I love this ship, it's so cute!
I've also seen Alice from American McGee's Alice shipped with Jack and it's not a bad ship either, but Jack and Elsa is just peak aesthetics.
Bro, thank you for bringing up this topic about this ship . I used to love this crossover for over a decade and after watching this vid , it reminds me that I still do adore them . Ah.. memories .
don´t worry. Disney will buy dreamworks and all the universal properties and they will fuse this two universes to make this ship cannon.
I love how there is still this minor impossible hope for this fact. I remember wishing it so much as a kid.
Anyone else notice that he keeps saying Anya 😂
Not me coming here after TikTok started shipping elsa with satoru gojo
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I love these fandom deep dives. Can't wait for the next one.
0:25 Even crackier than Mordecai and Twilight?
Can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars?
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I love this crossover shipping since between 2013 and 2014.❤
My love for Jelsa has awakened in summer 2022.
I love and still love this ship. Everyone was just having fun, making their own stuff up. I think the crackship status just bolstered to everyone's creativity. Sure it had a bit of toxicity (but tbh all ship does), but overall, the fandom was pretty fun.
Rise of the Guardians was a weird film in the way it caught on with the more creative types online. I remember I was into Avatar: The Last Airbender at the time and a bunch of the better fan artists in that fandom I was following were now posting a ton of Guardians stuff. Wasn't just Jack Frost either, bunch of the villain guy and the ozzy easter bunny too with them as a blue lantern, in jail with Carmen Sandiego, or whatever.
this is so true, rise of the guardians and especially jack frost were so omnipresent in fandom culture in the early 2010s. miss that era
I loved this video, but i was left a little confuse by how much Sarcastic Chorus seems to equal shipping with wanting it to be canon. I mean, i know some shippers would go that extra mile, but since when it was a requirement?
Yeah, some people really don't get what's shipping about and it'd be fine if they weren't dudes with a platform spreading misinformation. It's so annoying when people act like liking harmless ships is a disrespect to the writers, the characters, the plot and their grandma, and I'm not even a big shipper
As a shipper I get this so much. When I ship I don't say this would be actualy good for the story or that I expect it to happen. Shipping is just more tools for fanfiction. If I shipped Elsa with Jack( I don't but for an example) I do not think it would be good for Elsa to be in any kind of a relationship.
Not only because I respect the story but that Elsa is such a plank of wood of terms of personality her sister had to be the main protagonist for most of the movie
*Jack Frost x Tooth Fairy* 4 ever ❤
2:04 I'm 100% sure that that's just a recolor of the kid from the boss baby (I think his name was like Tim or Tommy)
I ship practically every cambination of "Rise of the brave, tangled frozen dragons" or ROTBTFD, as is often called, with Hijack/Frostcup being my favourite.
Man, those sure were the days for fandoms
What does "Rise of the brave, tangled frozen dragons" even mean
@@DarkZ19 basically, is a crossover alternative universe between the movies: Frozen, Tangled, Brave, How to train your dragon and Rise of the guardians. Where Rapunzel, Elsa, Merida, Jack and Hiccup are friends.
Ah 2013 and the crossover fan arts
I'm so happy you made a ship video involving characters from different stories crossing lol
The gorgeous edits pulled me in
1. I was familiar with "Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons"; I even independently toyed with the idea. Henceforth, I was familiar with Anna and Elsa being added, but the Hamada brothers from Big Hero 6 is a choice; I would have done Moana.
2. The shipping of Jack and Elsa can make one forget that there is potential for Elsa to be non-heterosexual, including fan wishing.
3. "Curiosity killed the cat, you know...." - Dr. Finkelstein, The Nightmare Before Christmas.
I love Jelsa. I love both these characters and their movies! Plus Rise of the guardians is such an underrated film
If I remember correctly they also shipped her with Spider-Man and I don’t know but I swear that was a thing back in the day
That was cause of Elsagate
Yeah. Those weird ass kids channels would make vids with elsa and spiderman. I think it even leaked into those cursed ass flash games too
Disturbing times with CZcams kids. Those videos were more fucked up than if i actually TRIED to search for fucked up content.
Oh gods, you're giving me flashbacks to that guy with the insanely deep pockets who would not stop funding Peter Parker x Twilight Sparkle (humanized) art.... He must have spent at least tens of thousands the sheer amount that he was making happen.
It was a thing and I used to watch it 😭😭 I will never forget the time I was innocently watching a toy unboxing/review, clicked on the channel tot find more, and was brought spiderman x Elsa content.. pretty sure elsagate was behind that ngl.
I was someone guilty of liking this ship back then, still do but I’ve calmed down over time.
I was not expecting a fellow die hard Percy Jackson fan in this video…. I’m pleased
I will forever ship these two. They are my bread and butter.
A frozen respect for you 👏👏👏👏👏❄️