The Bug Out Bag Myth- What Should You Pack Into It? Video 1 Of Series
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Exceptional video! no fancy marketing, or unnecessary bells and whistles. Just good old fashion straight to the point common sense.
Thank you sir. I can't tell you how many people think they will grab their " bug out bag" and think they will be Bear Grylls in the woods. Thank you for giving a accurate definition of what a b.o.b. is actually supposed to be.
Great video. I've seen a few "bug out bag" videos that cram 80 pounds of gear, batteries, chargers, food and tools into the latest super-tactical bombproof ruck with ZERO mention of the importance of moving fast, avoiding detection and staying dry/warm. This is probably the best explanation of what (and how) to pack. Thanks Jacob! ✌🏼
that's a balance you have to find... speed of movement and gear..
Ex - armoured soldier here ; I agree with you for the most part. My plan is to bug in ( or get home and stay home for as long as possible ).
If caught out , first locate and sharpen a 6 or 7' walking, digging,self defense stick or staff.
Grab the bag filled with what a hiker would carry it's that simple.
Carry good hiker gear or soldier gear-water kit,
- fire kit
-poncho
- tarp
- ramen noodles
- cup -a- soup
- metal cup or bottle
- kfs kit ( knife, fork, spoon)
- spare socks !
- wool hat
- gloves
- long underwear
-fleece layer
- cordage
- good shoes, boots
-jungle bag with hot water bottle
- dry bags 2 or more
- garbage bags
- flash light and spare batteries
- I carried a metal candy tin with tea light candles, for some heat, light, warm up water. Ect.
- small stove ( jetboil )
- folding shovel is a must have.
- z-lite folding ground pad
- cold climate I carried a folding saw it's priceless
*Dress appropriately for colder weather in layers before you start your journey, don't sweat- regulate, maybe start a little cold.
- you need some food, yes this fella is correct but you will soon wish you were dead without some food- so take food.
* Most important thing is get FIT !
Physical fitness #1
- a scarf would do a lot towards improving your comfort level ( I'm Canadian it's -18 degrees celsius with 37km wind gusts and heavy blowing snow right now )
- travel at night like he said sleep rough during the day , protected from the elements and adjust your eating; eat before you sleep and go pee first - you will be warmer or it will seem that way.
Stay hydrated as he said it helps a lot, be cautious around water holes preditors,prey and your enemies will be near.
Walk softly and carry a big stick or a bang stick if you can.
Cheers.
thankyou, finally good comment - Bug IN
If you practice intermittent fasting you would find that brain function actually increases in the absence of food and so long as you can get back to your food source, you can comfortably go approx. 7 days without food before muscular atrophy begins to set in. Practice both fitness and proper health.
After getting completely soaked in a rainstorm on a late fall canoe trip in northern MN (yes, with rain gear), I learned that dry clothes inside a dry sleeping bag inside a dry tent trumps a fire when you're shivering cold. We line our packs with heavy duty trash bags, and all clothing, shelter, and sleep gear gets packed in roll top dry sacks.
Also, maybe not a problem for everyone, but I've had long hikes turn into miserable torture due to chafing. A stick of body glide is worth its weight in gold.
Thanks for the tip 🙏
This was probably one of the most important and practical bug out videos I’ve ever watched. Not trying to be a hero but being realistic 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤
Well done. Maybe one of the best I’ve seen on this topic and I’ve seen hundreds. Stay light, stay dry and stay hydrated. Oh, stay protected.
The clothes you wear and the things you have in your pockets are your bug out bag... Thats how I feel about that.
Good video Jacob
I actually use my "B-O-B" for short-term (2-3 day) camping trips all the time.
It proves to me that the gear that I have is needed and whether or not any adjustments need to be made.
👆🏻🎯🎯🎯
By the way: I think a multi tool is a must have. Maybe it’s just my overactive imagination, but if you’re bugging out, you may need to scavenge for things, so at least a can opener would be helpful, pliers and awl for repairs or maintenance, etc.
Although I don't worry much about a can opener pliers can be IMMEASURABLY important as can some of the other tools on a multitool- I wouldn't argue against one.
the old Jansports , 90's era, were bombproof. I still have at least one of them. its so sad how far they fel.
Story of the entire world right? Lol
Im not a vet but i am a person that been living in the sticks all my life and spend most of my time in the wilderness in the Appalachians. I my self have no need to bug out i have no place to bug out to im been here. I understand your point keeping things light if you are just going from point a to be in the shortest amount of time. I agree be light as possible. Be as dry as you can. But if you have to spend the night in the woods you got to get yourself off the ground. If you just got a tarp or thin pad your laying on the ground is gonna suck the heat right out of you. I suggested a light weight hammock or just tie some logs together so they dont shift but keep off the ground. And im glad you mentioned cleaning for your firearm nobody mentions that at all. A thing to note is people are not the only things you have to worry about if you gonna go into the woods. Depending on your area you might have to deal with dangerous game like wolves, bears,mountain lions,bobcats. Its all on you and your area and what your comfortable with but i would not use a micro gun if all your going to have is a hand gun and i probably put a 9 at the very bottom of what i would pick.
Fwiw I had my ground pad stolen in the middle of our deployment. I spent the whole fall winter sleeping on the ground to include some really, really hard times I a body bag with almost nothing for warmth.
So it isn't comfortable, but it can be done.
I think the more appropriate video in this series which will be next will be "should you bug out" because I think that's the one people need.
Ok here is my experience. 4 years stationed in Alaska in the infantry. Here is what I would do differently. Pair my poncho with a poncho liner. use GI canteen with metal canteen cup, water purification tabs from walmart. have a few pairs of dry socks and a extra t shirt sealed up in ziplock bags. have a lighter and waterproof matches. 3 days of food whether it be canned food or broken down mres gloves with glove liners and a bacalava and a boonie hat. insect repelent. green 550 cord. good hunting knife, compass, headlamp plus keep a good keychain flashlight, washcloth, camostick, can opener. What I tell my friends and family members is if your going to take a long trip somewhere in a car bring clothing you would wear in case the car broke down and you would need it to stay warm. Warm clothing paired with the items I mentioned above and some knowledge will keep you alive. I feel the training I received in the 6th infantry was good training considering we were in the field in alaska during the coldest months of the year and hardly anybody in our battalion ever got cold weather injuries.
Let's see what we can learn!
A small minimal first Aid kit is a must. 2 bandages, pills, silicone gloves, wounds purifier, iodine.
Good points there thanks
Love watching these kind of videos. I'm homeless and live on blm in Central Oregon. I have several different scout pits I frequent. The lifestyle dictates needs vs wants. I only carry a tiny day pack anymore. Most things are on my bike or in its trailer. All my scout puts are well stocked like caches. My edc looks very different.
Thanks for the video!
You are sir the real deal!
Cold War Era Army Vet here. I just want to reiterate that the Gortex Bivvy works well! A few years ago, I was doing some training with my “Tribe”. It was December in Missouri. I had never used an MSS before (we had Extreme Cold Sleeping Bags when I served). I slept with the zipper facing up, and it rained all night. By morning, I was sleeping in a canoe full of water. Literally FULL of water. It didn’t leak a drop out of the bivy! LOL. Anyway, it’s good to see someone who knows what he’s talking about doing some of these videos. Sua Sponte!
This is one of the best no BS videos on this subject I've seen yet. There are ONLY 4 requirements for Physiological survival for humans. For the human body to SURVIVE, these have been called the "4 absolutes for human survival" and it's funny how they also jive with the "Rules of 3". These 4 rules as follows in the correct order, 1- AIR, 2- ABILITY TO REGULATE CORE BODY TEMPERATURE, 3- WATER and 4- FOOD... if you have these 4 things you WILL survive, lol your comfort milage may vary though 😉. I really believe your video hit this point... spot on. Another area you hit home on is SKILLS, I'm not a pro outdoorsman but have taken a few TCCC medical classes, hunted and bushcrafted for decades and even have a few certs from the BUSHCLASS at BCUSA so I think I may be a bit more experienced than most in the woods or even EMERGENCY situations as I'm also a practitioner of PREPAREDNESS. Hell, I don't even call it a B.O.B., I just say it's my EMERGENCY BAG. The only other items "I" carry that differ from yours is I have a small (hiker or camper model) SAK KNIFE (with a saw), SHEMAUGH (sniper vail will also do), SPARK-A-LIGHT kit, HEADLAMP and a 3DAY SOS LIFE BOAT RATION BAR. With these MINIMAL items and some SKILLS I think I'd be "FAIRLY" comfy for a dew days JMHO. Great video and I subscribed, can't wait to see more, and thank you for your service sir!
Awesome video! You have some really good info on the sleeping gear. I have a USGI poncho liner (the kind that zips, with apex climashield) and the USGI MSS bivvy in my kit. (I also have a mylar sleeping bag with hand warmers for an emergencies in a food saver pouch). I really like your kit and look forward the upcoming videos!
Id add in a sleeping pad. The foam folding type. Having something to insulate you from the ground, especially when things are damp, can make all the difference. Also, there is windblocking type flecee available. Right now my focus is on a get home bag. Then i will need to locate family abd get them home.
Great bag! So many thoughts on this subject and so important to have something and practice with it.
Clearly explaining the differences between the BOB, GHB and INCH options at the beginning was a superb way to start the video. I hope you are able to dive into all of them soon!
Thanks man! I likely won't ever touch the inch bag... it's hard to say
It's crazy.... you can do 1 or 2 of these videos and it's blatantly obvious, at leas to me..... you are significantly better than the people who's channel "solely" revolve around this particular subject. The other day, I was watching your video on free float vs non free float it was one of IF NOT the best videos I had seen in regards to philosophy of use and and explaining the why etc.
Thanks man!
I really enjoyed that video. Thank you. I just now found your CZcams channel so you now have a follower.
I’m up here in Northern Maine
Glad you enjoyed it and glad to have ya!
FOOD! AND MORE FOOD!😂
Ive been doing this for years. Watched the video and agree with everything you said. What blows my mind is you pack a small weapons cleaning kit. I always have weapons with me and have never had any small kit for maintenence. Sir it blows my mind ive never packed a simple weapons cleaning kit. I have to change that.
Wow, awesome video! I just randomly found your channel and subscribed. We live in southern GA at the moment with plans to move to middle Tennessee in the next few months and would love to learn more esp with your experience and would love check out your classes. Take care
By the way, forgot to mention… Thank you for your service!
Sounds awesome!!! You will be close to tactical response as well!
I would add a pair of smart wool hiking socks.
And where's your headlamp with red light, an ultralight titanium folding solid fuel stove with fuel can save your life if you need to boil water, a small packet of electrolytes will help you if you're dehydrated, sunglasses and a pair of gloves too.
A Leatherman or a Victorinox with a Wood Saw will give you the tools you didn't want to add to save on weight.
Why would you need to boil water?
Great video soldier, thanks for all the great info.
Well done Sir thanks for the information. Very important!
Time to applybwhat I’ve learned
Excellent video. Long overdue. 🤣 👍
I will ewentualy add breaching Axe, like half breed lba -01. You could cut tree, tear padlock, go thru closed doors, od even wall. It’s heavy, but imo worth it.
I really like this video down to earth common sense great job from someone that is experienced. 👍
Interesting presentation. Everyone gets caught with buying the latest gear & sometimes going overboard with redundancy. That's probably why I have a large enough pack but you've helped me to realize that I can do without certain items. Ain't no spring chicken either.
I would add an elastic bandage and some duct tape. The elastic can help compression for punctures or if there is too much mud/water/blood for something to stick. The tape can help has a wound cover also and for waterproof repairs of your gear. And you can just wrap something you already have with tape like water bottles.
Neither is a bad decision at all but in the name of being light I choose to just go with the elastic tourniquet mentioned.
A small light roll of gorilla tape could be fantastic but within 48-72 hours of full tilt movement we can probably make do without.
Informative and beneficial video!
7:25 respectfully what you’re demonstrating is designed for well trained veterans or civilians with bush experience. Almost more of an assault pack (minus the ammo & weapon’s accoutrements.) For everyday people with very limited training their primary needs are staying dry, staying warm, self defense, light, easy calories, hydration & navigational gear. This idea of “roughing it” is only embraced by ex-military and hardcore civvies. Most freaked out mc’mericans need a solid quality coat, hiking boots, headlamp, poncho, Glock and a ditty bag of Snickers, Cliff Bars & 5 Hour Energy shots….and a few airplane shots for staying chill. Maybe a quality tarp & emergency bivy sack. Nonetheless great video and happy new year 👍🏼
Nope. It's designed for people who are bugging out.
The less training a person has the lighter their pack has to be.
If you are taking a pack out to exist indefinitely then what you are packing is not a bug out bag.
Good info, but I prefer a waist belt on my backpack. I really prefer the weight on my hips and not my back.
That is of course acceptable and dependent on preference-
I have a couple of packs with light weight waist belts. For me it depends on weight. For my preferences a BOB shouldn't be heavy enough to need a belt, ideally-
But again if you always like a belt you always like a belt.
Other things to consider are things like how your waist belt works with your holster, knives, fanny pack, war belt, jacket, etc etc etc.
Decisions are all based on what you wear/ do, how you are built, and how everything works together.
Come to MN when it's -20 and blizzard conditions with that pack. If you aren't in excellent shape (most people aren't) and wearing the appropriate clothing, it's gonna be tough. If your bugout is a couple days away on foot, you're not using that pack. For a 3 season (mostly) kit, it's good. I use the MSS bivy as well, great piece of kit. Don't leave home without it.
If you would have watched the video you might not have had to try to flex in the comments section
I walked away from my laptop for a sec and I thought Jordan Peterson made a bug out bag lol
🤣
Interesting and well done. I see a lot of overlap and yet some important differences between a "bugout" versus "day hike/survival" and "hunting" packs. I have the last two I mentioned always ready to go except for some food (granola bars, etc) , water and binocs, which get added when needed.
You are 100% right!!!!!!
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors One thing I think important is footwear. I always wear footwear I can walk long distances in. I never need to change shoes to leave the house and go out to do something whether in my shop or out in a pasture. i pretty much wear appropriate boots only. Never know when something might need kicked, too.
@@rickc4317 I couldn't agree more! Although I still end up in Crocs, despite my previous experience, on occasion. Generally when going to physical therapy or something, but still
Terrific stuff 🔥
The tropitarn has me wondering about good clothing. Should I go camo? Full or just pants/just top? Shoe recommendations? Any experience with alpaca vs wool?
As always, fantastic video Jacob.
Edit: "I'm not bringing a big chopper with me." *the workhorse has entered the chat, & he ain't happy...
Super edit: A compact Bible would be a great morale booster.
FANTASTIC questions!
What you wear is going to depend on where your bug out location is and how you will get there. A tactical backpack likely won't attract attention but my green pants and and a camo top, and my hair cut might.
Alpaca vs wool is ALMOST irrelevant but in my experience alpaca is sssoooooo much more cozy.
I agree in the Bible.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Totally agree with sticking out, and flying in the face of the grey man theory. You said you just can't do it with how you look & carry yourself, me either. I've been getting asked if I'm military or a cop since I was 18/19. I think it's just simply my fitness & the look on my face 😂.
I have Hollow (🇺🇸 made) alpaca socks, and I agree with you - more cozy.
Edit: Additionally, I'm a jeans guy, so some recs there would be fantastic. I heard LA Police Gear has some good options.
@oldschooltakingyaback la police gear jeans lasted me like 1 month of working.
I hear other people have good experiences.
I hate 5.11 so I don't have recommendations right now for pants.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Good to know about LAPG. I won't go with them then. And a definite 'ew' to 5.11.
@@oldschooltakingyaback I'll keep looking. But I was issued these 5.11 pants when working for the parks service, 4 pairs, and although they are now looking older and more beat up... I likely won't replace them for a few years.
I would have a map and compass in there. You may know your area pretty well, but what if the road you planned for was closed and you had to take a different route and maybe take to foot earlier than you thought.
I can never recommend against a map and compass! Did I mention the compass in my little survival kit?
As for the map- again, ALWAYS a good idea, but if you are using your bug out bag to get to a bug out location you should ideally know the area quite well.
But once you are there the map can aid with the next step undoubtedly, and who knows what could happen that could require a good map! 👆🏻💪🏻
This was great. I have been preaching the same for years - its point a to point b evolution on a compressed timeline. Waltermittyitis is a central theme in Bugout content typically - this was excellent thanks for sharing !
I’m a foot/ ankle surgeon. Will add a first aid kit with essential medications. You need energy to keep moving so I will add energy/ food bars. Great video.
For a bug out bag, a few tubes of the stuff that road cycle racers use is useful high carb, sugar and electrolytes.
I appreciate the no nonsense perspective. I agree with most of what you said. Two things I would add is a few electrolyte pills and something to treat/prevent blisters. These two are a big deal if you’re logging some serious miles.
Awesome information! 🤘🏼
I keep trash bags in my light pack. The industrial trash bag is large enough for a ground cover. Extra batteries. People don't practice survival learning skills, and think with a bunch of gear they will survive whatever SHTF thing. The instant Ramboism or Grills Bear idea of survival. Survival is only part instntive the rest is learned applicable skills.
Great video, Jacob! Looking forward to more in this series. Which Wilderness innovation poncho are you using and with which options? HD, Long back, sleeve extensions, etc? Thanks!
Hhmmmmm I don't remember honestly.
I believe it had an HD option and it was set up to also be used as a hammock.
I don't like it much tbh and I have tried to reach out to them by email and ig messages hoping to get some matching patches for the holes in it and I never got a response, so it's kind of on my 👎🏻 list.
Dude!! I've been subscribed to your channel for quite a while (with the bell thingy) and I haven't been seeing ANY of your videos pop up in my feed!!! (CZcams shows I'm still subscribed)
I wonder where I would be if this wasn't the norm
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors The BRCC Mafia got to youtube!!!
@@thebronzetoo it's above them- but yes YT has been compromised for a LONG time- if not from the get go.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors 👍
I cycle toured for 3 months in Scandinavia, camping every night. Not a bugout but an extended outdoor experience.
I would add
Navigation: paper maps and compass.
Information: radio
Signalling: mirror, whistle, orange bandana, headlamp.
Spare socks, neck buff, bandana. Extra clothing for local conditions inc windshirt.
Nail clippers/ scissors .
Pocket multitool SAK or Leatherman, on lanyards.
Spare glasses , eye protection + tiny screwdriver.
If exiting a city without motorized transport, I would prefer bicycle to foot and would leave at the d of dawn when the gangs are sleeping.
That sounds like an awesome trip!
I would love to do that at some point, maybe in Nepal
Outstanding video.
Best BOB Video on CZcams by a margin!
Thanks!
This is going to be good.
I've also heard it called a GOOD bag (Get Out Of Dodge).
I like that
Nice overview of a practical and yet very useful bob. Nice watch. Who makes that?
Bertucci
Great video.
Do you have any thoughts/experience on Helikon-Tex's military style ponchos?
Not yet. I might review one.
Looking forward to that as well as a review on the model 23 review. Thanks for all that you do.
@@ajones2840 💪🏻
Great video! Random question: what happened to your goats?
They are fine- just annoying. I haven't taken them out in a long time.
Very interesting thoughts. I myself only have a survival kit based on the 5 C's of survivability to get me through a night or two if I get lost while hiking.
With a backpack, I need a hip belt to take the weight off my shoulders. I have a good waterproof backpack for that. I will think about a bug out bag. Thanks for the video.
So your survival kit bag is likely very close to a bug out bag and is very well set up- the only difference for me is dropping absolutely everything out that isn't absolutely necessary so I can drop enough weight that that hip belt isn't necessary (for me) so I can make max speed.
The people out there with 3 day bags and assault bags are much more likely to have a well thought out and practical bag than the typical American prepper.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors
I need the hip belt because I have problems with my shoulders. I knew you didn't need it.
I can't carry too much weight.
I have an EDC for urban disasters. In there I have very heavy pain meds (tilidine), antibiotics, a world receiver, trauma kit, flashlight, and other useful stuff among other things. Maybe I could combine that with my emergency kit. I will consider all your suggestions.
@@JPHomeland makes sense!
Good video
Good video I like so.e things you focus on thick straps are important I'd say I can carry probably 45 pounds at most thats me going very slowly on a high calorie in take with lots of rest my pack I'm most comfortable with is less then 25 pounds I think it's less than 20 right now but 25 happens water, axe big knife; small knife or machete and small knife or small knife multitool lots of different things play in season Is a big factor weight of clothes
That pic of afgan looks like Musa Qala at the tower. I am British and was at that location for 6 months
This was in Logar Province.
I like the concept but not the execution. BLUF: familiarize yourself with how ultralight thru hikers pack then add a multitool, CCW, & ifak. Lastly would be any items specific to you (epiPen, insulin, inhaler, etc) & you’re done. Also for extra credit don’t forget to pack some extra space for the items you need last minute.
Stealth camping also offers a lot of insight.
Next time you through hike- give yourself half the time to complete your hike then reprioritize.
I hike all the time. If you read my comment you would see I draw a lot from ultralight hikers I talk to then add the cautionary items. If I didn’t make time on a hike it wouldn’t be because my pack was to heavy. Like I said I like your concept and agree with almost everything you say except you NEED to pack some stimulants, electrolytes, and calories. For the weight they’re absolutely worth it.
@guy9146 bugging out is an emergency.
Through hiking is a leisurely activity.
You say if you didn't make a time hack it wouldn't be because of weight.
That says you are neither carrying weight nor hitting the time mark.
Stealth hiking and through hiking etc are good ideas for learning things but the mindset for appreciating emergency probably requires experience.
The only people that lived in Hawaii did so illegally by bugging out.
Guess what they had.
Nothing but the shoes on their feet.
If you have time to pack extra gear and the weight capacity to add more gear it's likely you aren't actually bugging out and there is no emergency.
What is the name of the pouch you are using for cash it was right after your gun oil pouch.
I believe all the pouches are "The Hidden Woodsmen" but he makes pouches of different designs in batches so not all of them are always available.
Excellent… smart phone and or a radio to support some form of communication??? But his could also work against you and give away your position….
Just depends on your bugout location, what you have, and who you intend to meet!
But it can certainly be a viable option.
Great review!!! Jacob. Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
WAY too sparse of a kit for me middle of winter of NEPA Appalachia but great points and video, regardless.
I don't have much more than shown here but always have my 5lb ESS Recon 5 sleeping bag with me (-4° F, I'm a cold sleeper and have temperature regulation issues due to autoimmune disease).
Oh yeah, this would make for a ROUGH life mid winter. Packs should evolve with seasons undoubtedly.
No links - new to BOB.
Of all the people talking about carrying tourniquets, and there are many, YOU are the ONLY ONE that has said, study it and learn how to use it. You know as well as I do there a lot of stupid people in this world and a lot of them will end up missing digits and limbs from those tourniquets. 😊
On the other hand, maybe that's why others don't mention training. They want to eliminate some of the competition...
I think people don't mention training because it's an unpopular message and people are on youtube to make money- and encouraging people to spend money to feel better and to feel prepared is what makes money.
Even Florida gets cold brother lol
Eeeehhhhhhh yeah of course.
But not often.
What watch you wearing?
Bertucci
One or two pair of socks and a couple packs of hand warmers?
Mentioned the socks- handwarmers can be good or very, very bad due to condensation
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Didn't think of condensation.
Bug out bag is stupid, where are you going to? Especially with wife and children. Roads clogged, gas not available .Shelter in place . Water, food , ammo. Most important. Come on in,get some.
For 99.9999999999% of people this is absolutely correct. I'll cover it in another video in this series.
your neighbor's house is burning down and it's very windy coming towards your house, or there is a flood, or big storm coming right towards you, tornado maybe. Oh my goodness the SWAT team is next door telling you you have to get out. Do not grab your bug out bag on the way out the door because bug out bags are stupid.
Star scope
most people would die with that kit. my 12 year old, 74lb, daughter carries more on a day hike. example your hands and feet, a pair of machanixs gloves, foot powder, 2 pair of wool socks and some mole skin. an emergency bivy bag. a map and compass. head lamp beats a flash light. everything I added does not come out to more than 1.5 lbs and for an extra 1,6 lbs you can add SOS bars.
Die in how long and of what?
Even your daughter under the gun can walk a week with far less than what I have here.
The problem with bug out bags is people confuse bugging out with their lives on the line with a day hike.
If a person is serious about bugging out they should have a bug out location, ideally stocked- that was explained in the video.
So either you aren't actually planning on bugging out of foot which is absolutely fine, or you have a bug out fantasy but haven't put forth any effort into actually making it feasible.
That is less ideal.
But whether or not your family can bug out on foot really brings to question whether or not you should be bugging out at all, not whether or not you can carry more gear.
the purpose of gear is to give you more options and a higher lvl of success. my wife's job is 45 mile from our house thats a 3 day trip along her route ther are 3 5 gallon buckets stationed every 10 mile and she is carring a 19 lb pack which includes a Glock 19. its not a bug out bag but more of a get home bag.@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors
You should see what it takes to actually die of exposure- and what people can live through-
Especially when they are moving on a time limit that when exceeded could guarantee death.
That is the scenario of the bug out bag after all.
All the people in Hawaii who illegally bugged out- guess what was in their bags.
Nothing, they had no bags and they were on foot.
I don't know what your experience with actual emergency and death is or near death experiences or exposure but a person can walk a week with absolutely nothing- keeping dry and clean water just makes it easier to keep the speed higher.
Add all that crap and you'll be slow, period, guaranteed.
You don't know what you listed weighs, and I would highly, HIGHLY suggest you start actually putting your money where your mouth is and timing your movements with weight through unimproved terrain.
wow you really cant take criticism. caring 19 lbs of gear is not going to slow me down, that what my daughters and mine BOB has for weight. My wife's BOB is 28 lbs. we hike all year round. We have actually done 3 bug outs for practice. o BTW im a retired E-7 USMC 0326. @@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors
I get what you're saying, but,, my problem with this is if we don't know what is going to happen we can't say dogmatically that it will be temporary. Or that we'll have a home to go back to. If all you're doing is preparing for natural disasters, fine, what you're saying is 100% correct. But, we are planning for things to go sideways, right? Why should we assume our plan is going to work, let alone work perfectly? If the last 4 years have taught me anything its that reality is far far far more unpredictable and chaotic than most people want to believe. Because if someone told me 10 years ago this would happen this way, I wouldn't have believed them. We'd have a president with serious dementia? That's silly isn't it.....Oh shit. So how do you know its going to be temporary and what if its not? Its an assumption I don't think we can say is safe anymore.
I do agree most INCH bags are ludicrously over-packed. But, that does not mean that the concept isn't worthy of some study. Look at the world situation. NATO seems hell bent for leather to get us into a WWIII, possibly nuclear. Our economy is spiraling into hyperinflation. We have US politicians calling for people who don't vote like they do to be put in reeducation camps. And it looks like there might be a real pandemic on the horizon. Possibly from a lab. So which one is going to get us first? And how is any one of these things going to effect your plan. And what if you have to deal with multiple disasters at once? 2019, riots and lock-downs at the same time. See what I'm trying to get at?
I'd suggest a very very lean INCH bag might be more appropriate than a bag that doesn't cover all your bases at least somewhat. And you might consider multiple plans to cover different scenarios. Because where you're escaping to on foot may not be there when you arrive. Bottom line, there are no guarantees. Its entirely within the realm of possibility that nowhere will be a safe haven and no plan will work. Which means you'd better be ready to improvise. Be a good idea to have a FEW basic tools for that just in case. That's my point.
Peace.
Sorry for the long winded post, I was just pointing out that it might be a good idea to have a plan if your primary plan fails. just in case. Peace.
Good video, realistically though all the videos on Bobs seem so far out of the realm of reality that reality is your vehicle breaks down and you choose to walk out. This evade and hide mentality is realistically less than .005 percent day to day.
What you are describing is a get home bag-
But I agree most people's concept of a Bob or even bugging out itself is wildly unrealistic.
Yes, A dehydration migraine headache will stop you in your tracks...you will not be doing anything except holding your head in your hands. ibuprofen will be needed., make sure you have plenty in your B.O.B.
Been there, done that- motivation under threat of death beats ibuprofen.
Why do you need a tourniquet?
What is a tq used for?
My Get home bag weighs 60 pounds and my wife’s bag weighs 40 pounds. People say that is a lot of weight, well buy junk equipment and you will fail, quality equipment weighs more, if we need to survive, then I want equipment that will not fail us. The choice is yours, it’s your life !!!
A get home bag entails walking home.
Also more often than not junk equipment is heavy and quality equipment is light weight.
I hope you and your wife practice walking with those bags regularly, in the military I saw a lot of young soldiers who were in decent shape but were dehydrated or sick get broken by a 40lbs bag.
"sleeping in a body bag with a cheap chinese poncho"... right. What happened to your US-made issued gear?
It's a whole story that I have gone into in other videos.
My puss pad was stolen, my first bivy was stolen, and my poncho was stolen.
However that wasn't the reason up in Chark I didn't have anything- 2 navy seals were captured in the fall in Chark Valley and we were told we were going out on a 4 hour mission after we just got back from another mission.
We were out for a month air assaulting to different points and op's looking for the guys and having supplies speed balled in.
Actually, my stolen poncho DID result in me having the cheap poncho, and that was as much a nightmare as the body bag or more tbh.
BugOut Bag, now please assume scenario you are family, wife, two small kids - how your BugOut Bag will look?
Depends on the emergency, the distance, the time of year, your families capabilities, etc etc etc.
More importantly if you haven't already build a bug out bag for the family and practiced bugging out with them chances are you shouldn't be bugging out on foot at all
Bug out bag is only for 72h, a very sturdy made bag made of Cordura is not needed. Food will be useful. Better to look at what ultra light hikers take for thru hikes for continentally divide trails. OPSEC is not a big concern in a civilian environment, street gangs will not be chasing you into the wilderness, neither do they have the skills to do so.
A sturdy bag might not be needed if your 72 hours ends in a cozy back to regular life lifestyle-
But a cheap bag can not only be ruined in 72 hours of exposure, but can also permanently injure the person wearing it.
A backpacking bag could be fine but they are designed for the trail. I brought an Osprey to the field 1 time and it got tore up from thorns and rough use- they are light and nice but not intended for that kind of use.
Hold on, so if you say there is a plethora of misinformation out there, what is it that makes you qualified to correct all of these misinterpretations?
Did I not answer that question in the video?
He's like an angry military Jordan Peterson.
Haha idk how I feel about that 🤔😅
I do get Jordan Peterson references constantly however.
The so called bug out bags are too get home bag's.
The only other way is an assault pack.
That is my opinion on this matter
Otherwise people should already have M.A.G.S in place.
All other equipment etc etc would be able to load up in your rigs to travel to a safer, (supposedly) place.
If that is not too be for you, then your home us your castle.
Didn’t see any bug repellent.
If you are on foot with your life on the line-
Yeah, bug spray isn't a priority.
@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I guess it would depend on the location and how many nights out till you get to your destination. I’m in south Florida on the edge of the Everglades so bug juice would be a necessity.
It would be prudent to plan ahead with that with permetherin treated gear and what is needed ahead of time.
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WEIRD!
FYI, Now I can see it.
I’ve got to say, your knife sux. Something like that would be my last option.
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All I hear is "Freezing this, freezing that"...then you claim this set up will keep you alive.
If the word "Freezing" is in any way, shape or for, part of your kit, you dont know what you are doing.....I dont care how much military "experience" you have. Your training comes from the "Lowest Bidder".
You can do more with some warm wool layers, a canteen, and a 'milspec plus' rain poncho than any kit that includes the word "Freezing"
My MILITARY training was from the lowest bidder-
And it involved freezing, and living.
I have also experienced freezing in wool layers- it 100% will not keep you warm by itself without a sleep system.
@xM-T-Rx just as a side note- for the concepts given here for bugging out the movement should certainly not take a couple weeks. Regardless of temp even most single men aren't going to make it through a couple of weeks of movement.
A pre determined bug out destination should be the goal of the bug out bag.
NOT that I am condoning bugging out itself.
@xM-T-Rx yeah I figured.
And different climates will require different load outs and weights.
My bag in Arizona would look a LOT different than my big in Wisconsin or Minnesota!
If I had to "bug out" at -40 when I was in Fairbanks I simply wouldn't have lived if I had to travel a great distance with the things I had if I could leave a trail.
It would have quite simply been beyond my skillet.
With that being said idk how anybody could do it without leaving tracks or a trail or having fires- but you don't know what you don't know till you do! 🤷♂️