My Pitch for Sinister Six

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Hear me out!
    If they're going to make it, I think a Sinister Six movie could work. Sony just needs to think about the team differently.
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  • @Whats_a_ZJ
    @Whats_a_ZJ Před 2 lety +1434

    They're going to be more like the sympathetic 6 not sinister.

  • @joshuaspencer4506
    @joshuaspencer4506 Před 2 lety +745

    It's like Sony took the negatives of both the MCU being too formulaic and the DCEU with it's lack of coherence and connection and mushed them together to the point that they've dug themselves into a hole so deeper, it's easier to get out the otherside then it is to climb back out

    • @maleficking6556
      @maleficking6556 Před 2 lety +8

      Is it really that incomprehensible? Most of the confusion really just comes from the Morbius credit scenes, which are easily fixable.

    • @gavo7911
      @gavo7911 Před 2 lety +25

      @@maleficking6556 How is it fixable? It completely ruins Vulture’s character AND makes no sense from NWH.

    • @maleficking6556
      @maleficking6556 Před 2 lety +9

      @@gavo7911 Because post credit scenes can be retconned or redone. It's that simple.

    • @maleficking6556
      @maleficking6556 Před 2 lety +10

      Update on this, there's literally a version of the scene now where some of Vulture's dialogue is removed. My point is proven exactly.

    • @radrno7
      @radrno7 Před rokem +2

      @@maleficking6556
      They need to completely erase the Vulture scenes. That's the only way to fix it.

  • @globherman8115
    @globherman8115 Před 2 lety +1010

    This team will just be called ‘The Six’ and they’ll just be Sony’s avengers

    • @citysmall3427
      @citysmall3427 Před 2 lety +83

      I honestly expect that kind of thing from Sony at this point

    • @gerardkeohane1837
      @gerardkeohane1837 Před 2 lety +63

      Then the six can cross over with the seven, perfect

    • @engineergaming1537
      @engineergaming1537 Před 2 lety +43

      The Spectacular Six

    • @DesX42S
      @DesX42S Před 2 lety +5

      I like it. I'm sold.

    • @slartimus
      @slartimus Před 2 lety +24

      So, six big heroes... like a Big Hero Six? 😁

  • @KevinCow
    @KevinCow Před 2 lety +652

    The whole Sinister Six thing is just so funny to me. It's clearly just one of those ideas some producer had (gonna go out on a limb and say Avi Arad or Amy Pascal) and just leaned into obsessively despite nobody else really being into it, like Kevin Smith's story about the giant spider in a Superman movie.
    Like it's obviously something they came up with in the wake of the success of The Avengers, because they looked at a list of Marvel properties they could use for a team and said, "Ooh, Avengers but bad!" But a decade's passed, the market's changed, every other cinematic universe attempt has flopped, Sony's Spidey spinoffs continue to be a punchline, the general vibe on the Sinister Six movie continues to be, "Really? They're still trying to do that?" and yet they still press on.

    • @lunatickgeo
      @lunatickgeo Před 2 lety +8

      wait, I thought that was Jon Peters? the giant spider I mean

    • @BuzzabeelYT
      @BuzzabeelYT Před 2 lety +25

      Except no other company has even tried to make a cinematic universe. DC spat out one origin movie and then went straight to civil war with BvS. Then rebooted. Then rebooted again. Sony just did Venom, then did Morbius, and didn’t even try to connect them other than a joke or two.
      Like imagine if Thor never went to earth, the MCU did Thor 2 and 3, then did civil war and expected you to know who all the avengers were and have us watch them fight for two hours without any added explanation.

    • @lunatickgeo
      @lunatickgeo Před 2 lety +7

      Sorry... I misread your comment. You're right, Kevin Smith was talking about Jon Peters! I misread it as it was Kevin Smith's idea to have the giant spider in Superman! I'm sorry, my fingers got ahead of my brain (which was on vacation)

    • @uncharted3awesome
      @uncharted3awesome Před 2 lety +16

      @@BuzzabeelYT Don't forget Universal's Dark Universe, and the Kong vs Godzilla universe

    • @spaceghostcqc2137
      @spaceghostcqc2137 Před 2 lety +1

      Venom 2 make 20x the $ as the best Sci Fi action film this year so the joke is the public taste.

  • @SomeGuy1918
    @SomeGuy1918 Před 2 lety +73

    I’m convinced Sony is googling “Marvel characters we own the rights to” and greenlighting every single name on the list

  • @Lynch2507
    @Lynch2507 Před 2 lety +318

    I hear you, i get what you're saying, counter-point.... El Muerte movie.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +54

      Sony legit chose a character with less than 3 appearances for a solo movie

    • @Lynch2507
      @Lynch2507 Před 2 lety +41

      @@IcyDiamond he's in exactly two comic books as part of one story arc. he is barely a character.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +25

      @@Lynch2507 And he’s who they chose for their new Spider-Man spin off

    • @Handsomereviews
      @Handsomereviews Před 2 lety +4

      Appreciate you coming back and saying this. When he said unless Sony decided to make a movie that barely has to do with spider man. El muerto came out to play

    • @ang1759
      @ang1759 Před 2 lety +10

      Literally Big Wheel has more appearances than this guy. *Big Wheel.* Just let that sink in.

  • @victor.maskalenka
    @victor.maskalenka Před 2 lety +323

    Chameleon is already confirmed and casted in Kraven, it seems like he'll be important in the movie since the movie seems to be some kind of a family drama with everyone in the Kravenverse

    • @victor.maskalenka
      @victor.maskalenka Před 2 lety +14

      Do you prefere Kravenverse, Kravense or Kraverse?

    • @Zombiesnyder13
      @Zombiesnyder13 Před 2 lety +18

      AVI ARAD will ruin everything

    • @Raccon_Detective.
      @Raccon_Detective. Před 2 lety +2

      @@Zombiesnyder13
      Agreed! what he did to Spider 3, TASM 1, and TASM2 was unforgivable.

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +3

      Nooooooo not my boy Dmitri being involved in this mess :(

    • @radrno7
      @radrno7 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, my guess is that Chameleon is going to be the centerpiece of the Sinister Six movie, just like Loki was for Avengers. Ironically Chameleon is Kraven's brother and they hate each other because Chameleon is the black sheep of the family that keeps tricking others with his schemes and impersonations, just like Loki and Thor.

  • @Powl_J
    @Powl_J Před 2 lety +382

    Since we’re already predicting things we want to see and things that would make sense for Sony to do, I instead would like to predict some of the baffling decisions Sony will inevitably make:
    -cast a new live action Spider-Man (either a no name or someone no one likes a la Jared Leto)
    -the sinister six will not have six members
    -Tom holland will play a minor character that’s not Spider-Man
    -the first cgi Stan lee cameo
    -one movie will feature venom exclusively in venom form because they couldn’t get Tom hardy

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před 2 lety +17

      Not crazy enough. Don't is managed by Spinal Tap. You forgot to turn your crazy up to 11.

    • @kangbarret
      @kangbarret Před 2 lety +51

      Sony: We would like to announce our new pick for spiderman... Amber Heard

    • @GeneralBolas
      @GeneralBolas Před 2 lety +18

      Technically, the first CGI Stan Lee cameo was in Into The Spiderverse.

    • @samdalseide5060
      @samdalseide5060 Před 2 lety +37

      @@GeneralBolas He appeared in Big Hero 6 four years before Into the Spider-Verse.

    • @matthewjanzen4837
      @matthewjanzen4837 Před 2 lety +20

      Sony will establish that SPUMC is in the TASM universe, but reintroduce a TASM villain played by a different actor

  • @hartthorn
    @hartthorn Před 2 lety +292

    Ending scene idea: Garfield:Peter DOES show up at the very end to help in a rather minor way (maybe apprehending Jameson while the Six are dealing with a Smythe who has lost all grip with reality), but because Spidey's contribution was very public while the Six's was more covert, Spidey gets all the credit for saving New York and THAT is the start of the enmity between everyone and Spidey.

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 Před 2 lety +9

      I love it

    • @zarinaa1135
      @zarinaa1135 Před 2 lety +36

      That's awesome! It's just that kinda petty misunderstanding that makes villains so great! Especially a group, they can't all have the same deep philosophical ideals that drive them to band together to destroy Spidey. They're just mad he got their credit cause they're selfish jerks. And that's why we love them

    • @hartthorn
      @hartthorn Před 2 lety +22

      @@zarinaa1135 it could also cause a sort of contempt spiral.
      As they keep trying to get "even" with Spidey but he keeps winning they get angrier and angrier. Maybe rope in new characters who were just supposed to be assets but then buy in after an asskicking.
      Others might fall off as they realise things are getting out of hand.

    • @MessyBricksRoadTo300
      @MessyBricksRoadTo300 Před rokem

      Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

    • @DeathRex88
      @DeathRex88 Před rokem +6

      Then he turns and goes "wait, are you guys the Avengers?" After remembering other Peter mention a super team in his universe.

  • @lachlanlyleport7276
    @lachlanlyleport7276 Před 2 lety +84

    "I would br shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exist"
    2 hours later
    *Enter El Muerto*

  • @ATroknya
    @ATroknya Před 2 lety +219

    They so badly want to do this Cinematic Universe thing, but why not a bunch of one-off stories from the EDGE OF THE SPIDERVERSE (get it?) Do Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Punk, Spiders-Man, Silver Sable, Miles Morales, anything but the Sinister Six.

    • @The_Jovian
      @The_Jovian Před 2 lety +11

      Edge of the spiderverse animated anthology series where all the spider people team up at the end

    • @Ja-LonnieBilal
      @Ja-LonnieBilal Před 2 lety +9

      I would like to see a live action Miguel O'Hara movie too taken place in 2099. It would be interesting if they could do a story like they did with the video game edge of time

    • @spaceghostcqc2137
      @spaceghostcqc2137 Před 2 lety +15

      Sony should just make animated spider-man films and do an expanded deal where they can use any characters they want from the MCU while Marvel gets to use spider-man and his rogues' gallery.

    • @themaker2149
      @themaker2149 Před 2 lety +6

      @@spaceghostcqc2137 I've said this before it's best for everyone

  • @dwaynecox2002
    @dwaynecox2002 Před 2 lety +16

    The reason why Garfield’s Peter could work in the Morbius world?
    The underlying theme of TASM movies is the mixing of animals with human experimentation to improve human capabilities.
    Kurt Connors was messing with lizard DNA to bring back his arm(and cure Norman Osborn)
    Max Dillon became Electro from getting shocked by modified electric eels.
    Peter Parker got bit by a spider designed with his father’s DNA.
    The common theme is mixing animals with human.
    Morbius is literally a guy who’s utilizing the capability of bats to cure his blood affliction.

  • @Aliraldd992
    @Aliraldd992 Před 2 lety +84

    The highlight of the movie will be the high speed chase between the flying meta hunting drones and the Big Wheel, trough the busy streets of a New York night

    • @adrianhv3083
      @adrianhv3083 Před 2 lety +2

      Don't forget about throwing Rocket Racer into the mix

    • @Greenphantom16
      @Greenphantom16 Před 7 měsíci +1

      And the wall trying to block Spiderman!

  • @towseefhossain8539
    @towseefhossain8539 Před 2 lety +114

    The fact that it takes 13 and a half minutes of a 16 minute video to remotely claw together the canon of whatever universe this is should be indicative of how unlikely it is for this to be conceived by Sony heads, let alone work as a movie.

  • @jacktriesto
    @jacktriesto Před rokem +18

    “I guess he just wants to be a lizard “ is unfortunately a hilariously accurate description of two movie appearances’ worth of characterisation

  • @discosludge
    @discosludge Před 2 lety +193

    This would be a best case scenario for me. It could even lend itself to a final bout between Spider-Man (who reappears after he's presumed dead from the Scorpion fight) and the Sinister Six to defend JJJ despite how much they hate each other, referencing some of the tender parts of their relationship from the comics and in the first Spider-Man movies. Great video!

    • @jomol4598
      @jomol4598 Před 2 lety +12

      that would be pretty cool, they’re not really after spider-man, but he’s defending jameson

    • @spaceghostcqc2137
      @spaceghostcqc2137 Před 2 lety +4

      The issue is they've cut the personal connections to spider-man out of all of these characters backstories so it wouldn't be that interestin.

    • @solidsnake5700
      @solidsnake5700 Před 2 lety +5

      @@spaceghostcqc2137 but it could become the sinister sixes origin for their hate for spiderman

    • @workyoutube7798
      @workyoutube7798 Před 2 lety +6

      even better, first scene with spidey is all done from news cameras and cell videos, found footage style, and at the end when he shows back up we get the big reveal as to which spidey we are watching, maguire, garfield, holland... or a new spiderman shows up to fight the sinister six, mah fackin mile morales!

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 Před 2 lety +1

      @@workyoutube7798 yeah, I hope it's a new Spidey. It could be a mix of Garfield's grim Spiderman, and maybe Tom's Spiderman? idk, but they should make a new Spidey imo. but, if garfield wants to come back, maybe it could be his spidey but from another universe

  • @guccifer764
    @guccifer764 Před 2 lety +310

    El Muerte is the key to all of this, if we can just get El Muerte to work, because he’s a funnier character than we’ve ever had in the other movies before…
    I may have gone too far in some places.

    • @BobSilverstein13
      @BobSilverstein13 Před 2 lety +13

      It's gonna be great

    • @HxH2011DRA
      @HxH2011DRA Před 2 lety +3

      I'm in *tears* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @CityPlannerPlaysChair
      @CityPlannerPlaysChair Před 2 lety +19

      Next up, Corn of Coblin

    • @nachoprime9649
      @nachoprime9649 Před 2 lety +1

      I know this is a reference to something... but I'm blanking on it atm

    • @HxH2011DRA
      @HxH2011DRA Před 2 lety +18

      @@nachoprime9649 George Lucas on Jar Jar Binks, from the behind the scenes of the making of Episode 1: The Phantom Menace

  • @mateogaviria4654
    @mateogaviria4654 Před 2 lety +99

    I love the ironic timing of Nando releasing a video with a pitch to kind of save this universe right after Sony does a Sony and announces the El Muerto film.

  • @SpiritLife
    @SpiritLife Před 2 lety +166

    Nando is the kind of guy I'd love to sit around and just chat movies with. His ideas always get me excited

  • @samuelwilkin5
    @samuelwilkin5 Před 2 lety +63

    Big Wheel should have his own movie tho

    • @__Soya__
      @__Soya__ Před 3 měsíci

      Nah make him the big bad of Avengers: Secret Wars

  • @sblinder1978
    @sblinder1978 Před 2 lety +32

    The best villain for a Garfield-verse is of course, Mondays. Perhaps a Monday that will shoot a laser beam into the sky that destroys lasagna.

    • @TerrenceNowicki
      @TerrenceNowicki Před 2 lety +1

      Sinister Six featuring Monday, Nermal, that duck from those Garfield and Friends farm segments, Binky the Clown, a spoiled serving of lasagna, and the mastermind who brings them all together, LYMAN.

  • @philopharynx7910
    @philopharynx7910 Před 2 lety +16

    Also, the Vulture that transitioned to the SPUMC was in prison. He had nothing on him. Because he has no identity, he has no money. This world was not invaded by the chitauri, so no chitauri tech exists. We don't know if the Tinkerer exists in this universe, but if so, he doesn't know Birdman. And yet, he ends up with wings that look like his chitauri-tech wings from the MCU.
    ...instead of simply patenting this revolutionary technology that only he knows about. He could get rich and experiment with finding a way to get back to his daughter.

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest Před 2 lety +55

    I love how well thought out and detailed this video explains out to save the universe.
    Then Sony drops El Muerto.

  • @idkwhattoputherelol9049
    @idkwhattoputherelol9049 Před 2 lety +22

    Can’t wait for El Muerto in the Sony sinister six

  • @BoveeTV
    @BoveeTV Před 2 lety +73

    Sony’s Spider-Man department is on fire.
    I mean WHO is deciding which characters to make movies about???

    • @crableah
      @crableah Před 2 lety +11

      I wouldnt be surprised if it was just some random number generator making all these decisions

    • @CityPlannerPlaysChair
      @CityPlannerPlaysChair Před 2 lety +1

      They're letting other people decide. They don't have a plan.

    • @josephjarosch8739
      @josephjarosch8739 Před 2 lety +3

      A Ouija board.

    • @NeroLeMorte
      @NeroLeMorte Před 2 lety +1

      Avi arad the executive menace that's who

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 Před rokem +1

      @@NeroLeMorte ever since blade and X-Men did really well he's had this belief it's all due to him

  • @wdcain1
    @wdcain1 Před 2 lety +24

    Since Spidey has so many legacy villains, I'd set up two Six teams with the first being a heroic prequel to setup up things and the second being full-on villains Peter fights.

  • @alexp.288
    @alexp.288 Před rokem +8

    It’s a shame that Vulture has been snatched up for this because he would be great for Thunderbolts. Someone who doesn’t particularly want to be there but is forced into it to keep his family safe and isn’t quite as villainous as the others.

    • @brewmaster2912
      @brewmaster2912 Před 5 měsíci +1

      They still can do it. Thunderbolts isn’t out yet and they can just ignore Morbius.

  • @luisfelipesousa4406
    @luisfelipesousa4406 Před 2 lety +13

    Idk... To me "No way home" feels already some kinda of Sinister six movie

  • @SantiBarrios
    @SantiBarrios Před 2 lety +47

    It could be
    It could also be a dumpster fire though

    • @Zombiesnyder13
      @Zombiesnyder13 Před 2 lety

      With Avi Arad in charge
      It will be a nuclear dumpster fire

  • @tskmaster3837
    @tskmaster3837 Před 2 lety +25

    Counterpoint: No.
    Evidence: Sony.

  • @jimsjutebox2495
    @jimsjutebox2495 Před 2 lety +22

    Haven’t watched yet but this title is interesting

  • @spidy2074
    @spidy2074 Před 2 lety +24

    "After Morbius bumped, I imagine Sony is going back to basics and stick to making sure things like Venom; I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exists and who has nothing to do with Spider-Man..."
    *El Muerto gets announced

  • @low-key-tony
    @low-key-tony Před 2 lety +5

    I love how the Superior Foes of Spider-Man got a reference.

  • @redherring2720
    @redherring2720 Před 2 lety +12

    I had an idea for a spider-man game where you have to fight the sinister six but the ending changes depending on the order you fight them. Each time you defeat one the others get stronger/more difficult. I also had a mechanic where you had to choose what side missions you do (Crime fight/Make Money(Tech)/maintain relationships) and you can only do a certain number of them (i.e. 10 out of 15 total missions).

    • @juanig4198
      @juanig4198 Před 2 lety

      that really nice it could be like a strategy game or just making the side mission minigames

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety

      Sounds like a true Spiderman experience.

    • @rockincradilyyyy8489
      @rockincradilyyyy8489 Před 10 měsíci

      That sounds great and a better execution of shadow the hedgehog’s ending system

  • @dessel5683
    @dessel5683 Před 2 lety +33

    i really like the pitch, my only drawback being that besides morbius and venom most of them don't have super visible or any superpowers, making it harder to sell the idea that they all fit into a group before teaming up

    • @christianemerson4622
      @christianemerson4622 Před 2 lety +1

      Isn't that the idea, though? A team has better dynamics when they have different skills and powers

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +3

      @@christianemerson4622 Did you listen to his story pitch? He said Jameson is going after metahumans yet Vulture, Black Cat, Kraven and Shocker aren't metahumans so why would Jameson even go after them let alone associate them with Venom and Morbius?

    • @bwill1268
      @bwill1268 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Patrick-pc3vq both kraven and black cat have super powers

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +1

      @@bwill1268 Yeah in some comics they did but i hardly doubt they will adapt them as metahumans.

  • @itzzbowserjr
    @itzzbowserjr Před 2 lety +8

    “I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero who very very very few comic fans even know exist.”
    So how do you all think he reacted to El Muerto?
    I pressed send before the update but played. I love it.

  • @Pedalpunk57
    @Pedalpunk57 Před 2 lety +11

    I feel like maybe Vulture will trick Venom, Morbius and the rest into thinking Spiderman is evil similar to how Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking Sonic is evil and pretty much they want to fight Tom Holland's Spiderman or at least Vulture does because he encountered him before but just doesnt remember Peter being Spiderman and obviously him being transported to the Sony universe already shows that its due to the spell Doctor Strange has did to undo everything that happened in No Way Home the plothole is how did he get there when his universe is the MCU that doesnt make sense much but maybe hes been brought there so Vulture wouldnt be able to find out Peters identity again but that wasnt said in No Way Home so it throws people off!

  • @dog9700
    @dog9700 Před 2 lety +9

    *El Muerto has entered the chat*

  • @eon001
    @eon001 Před 2 lety +7

    if this is Garfield's universe, I wouldn't mind seeing Dane Dehaan's Goblin come back.

  • @lonewonderer9771
    @lonewonderer9771 Před 2 lety +4

    There was some "sources" according to Forbes that say, Garfield has turned down the Sinister 6 movie role and subsequently, they'll be rebooting SpiderMan again, in the sony universe... Ikr.

  • @oldmanlogan9616
    @oldmanlogan9616 Před 2 lety +6

    The 6 should be:
    Venom
    Morbius
    Kraven
    El Muerto
    Big Wheel
    Rocket Racer

  • @guccifer764
    @guccifer764 Před 2 lety +15

    Your movie idea might just salvage the SPUMC… which is why I know they’ll do the exact opposite

  • @iamalittler
    @iamalittler Před 2 lety +2

    I still like the idea that Vulture look his suit from the Sequel Basement in ASM2

  • @sephandremanticore5438
    @sephandremanticore5438 Před 2 lety +3

    I think the "Sinister Six" should be a references to the most connected villains in the city, like Kingpin, and the others fighting Spider-Man are just brought on for that purpose.

  • @Uvulus1
    @Uvulus1 Před 2 lety +4

    Your Herculean efforts to be upbeat and positive about this despite Sony being determined to make everything as terrible as possible is, admirable.

  • @gedeonnunes5626
    @gedeonnunes5626 Před 2 lety +8

    I have a pitch of my own, it just completely ignores the SPUMC in order to favor Toomes and McCargan, who are already stablished previous to Venom and Morbius and the former seem much more interesting than the later to see, not to mention that Venom and Morbius are meant to be anti-heroes or whatever, I don't much care about them. NWH already made use of 2004's Dock Ock, so any chance of an MCU version of him is gone, but guess what, we already have a cold-blooded criminal head figure with a moral code of his own and a personal relationship with Peter in Toomes. The plot is very simple, they want to take revenge on Spidey and need to learn to work as a team, but it's mostly focused on the charecters themselves, their powers and the mechanics of it in relation to the problems that they need to solve. Also, Toomes is the veteran mastermind, but we get a battle of egoes between him and Kraven, who, despite having the same goals as the rest of them, likes to improvise and disobey a bit too much and risks putting the operation in a premature end, but luckily the things work and the rest of the crew likes him at first. It starts with a montage of all of them being captured, it downplays a lot of them as we see Spidey taking them down quite easily while having a laugh at them. They're a bunch of goofs with excentric powers, how could any of this work? The whole film takes place in the spider-man prison for spider-man villains (is it Ryker Island? Can't remember the name for sure, sorry) it's a special prison for super-powered folk and we learn a lot about it, how it works and all and how can the six overcome the security system using each of their own skills. We see them taking notes of the prison, the weak spots of it, them crafting their plan and executing it. But we must see it clearly, the audience must understand it, so stuff don't seem like it came out of nowhere, it's like they're solving a puzzle. It ends with them getting out, those who had special gear recover it and those who did not, get it. Toomes gets them to work as a swiss Clock, but, again, Kraven shows to be a problematic member, which ultimately pays off in our sequence, Spider-Man VS The Sinister Six. Sony wants a villains film, let's give it to them, let's show our charismatic, but evil villains gather and grow as a menance to Spider-Man and the whole city of New York. It doesn't need to be complicated or mind-bending cinema, it just needs to work.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache

    The hilarious part is that they’ve already done a cinematic Sinister Six in Edge to the Spider-Verse. And then again in the MCU with No Way Home. And before you say “There were only 5! Not 6! 5 isn’t 6!”, Peter is the sixth. Like in the Ultimate Six story arc.

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +2

      You mean Into the Spiderverse?

    • @draconic1802
      @draconic1802 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh also, you could kind of swing it like JJJ or Mysterio are the sixth, since their actions set in motion the entirety of the movie by releasing Spider-Man’s identity then publicly destroying his image

    • @Durmomo0
      @Durmomo0 Před 2 lety +2

      The tree was the 6th
      (but they should have just used Vulture)

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety +2

      @@Durmomo0 I think Rhino from TASM2 would have fit in more, that way the number of Raimi and Webb villains is the same while we get some more from him since TASM2 practiclly didn't even use him.

    • @draconic1802
      @draconic1802 Před rokem +1

      @@Durmomo0 twould have been fun to have him come back, maybe as a variant, maybe from a universe where he won, but his family died?

  • @twelfthknight
    @twelfthknight Před 2 lety +4

    If I were in the weird position of Sony asking me what to do with this Sinister Six movie, my answer would be simple -- do it animated, use Into the Spider-Verse as the base and Jake Johnson's Spider-Man's universe in particular, then use the Superior Foes of Spider-Man as your base. I think you could get a lot of low-key hype behind that. You'd have to change some things around from the comics, probably add more Spider-Man into it here or there, but it's genuinely a story of the Universe of Spider-Man characters that they could do that could be reasonably described as both a "Sinister Six" movie and something I would genuinely want to watch.

  • @Tr1pleS1ngleZer0
    @Tr1pleS1ngleZer0 Před 2 lety +4

    The original incarnation of madame Webb is pretty much the same as the madams Webb who appeared in „Spider-Man the animated series“ and who was voiced by the wife of Stan Lee „Joan Lee“

  • @kbg12ila
    @kbg12ila Před 2 lety +12

    They should just make an Andrew Garfield movie based on him and an alternate universe Gwen Stacey (Emma Stone's Spider Gwen) and have this sonyverse sinister six make an appearance as the villains but have most of the movies focus be on Spiderman and Spider Gwen. Maybe throughout the movie this sinister six could even be played for laughs and not be a serious threat, just a bump in the road.

    • @safariatari1094
      @safariatari1094 Před 2 lety

      Spider-gwen and Peter Parker aren't love interests tho. Making them romantic would remove a lot of what work with an alternative universe's Gwen Stacy

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety

      @@safariatari1094 In this adaptation it would focus more on the Emma Stone's version of Gwen Stacy and her relationship with Andrew Garfield's Spiderman over actual Spider-Gwen's character from the comics.

    • @safariatari1094
      @safariatari1094 Před 2 lety

      @@Patrick-pc3vq Why would you willingly degrade a previously existing character who somewhat serves a point of not being the same Gwen Stacy spider-man fell in love with just to have a forced on-screen relationship?

    • @Patrick-pc3vq
      @Patrick-pc3vq Před 2 lety

      @@safariatari1094 Love the use of the word degrade hahaha, none of the comic book characters are comic book accurate to the bone because that's simply impossible, this is an adaptation.

  • @quememirai9262
    @quememirai9262 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Sony already has a cinematic Sinister Six, Kingpin, Doc Ock, Prowler, Green Goblin, Scorpion and Tombstone, Did everyone forgot Spider-Verse?

  • @connorbeith3232
    @connorbeith3232 Před 2 lety +3

    The moment you said, "They're not gonna make a movie about a Spidey villain no one's heard of," I was cackling to myself saying, "You fool!" and it was even better when you had to correct yourself. At this point, if El Muerto can get a movie, then I'd say Jackpot is still on the table.

  • @MJ-zl3vo
    @MJ-zl3vo Před 2 lety +2

    I get so excited when I see one of your videos in my subscription box. I've been watching since 'Hela isn't Hela' You're one of my favorite comic channels!!!

    • @NandovMovies
      @NandovMovies  Před 2 lety +1

      I appreciate it MJ. It's been a long time and I'm glad you're still watching my videos.

  • @stevespanoudakis
    @stevespanoudakis Před 2 lety

    I love your pitches.... you got em all slider, sinker, knuckle, even fastball... keep hurlin em

  • @brooxshannon3874
    @brooxshannon3874 Před 2 lety +14

    Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt???

    • @moonmyers2608
      @moonmyers2608 Před 2 lety +6

      Because that’s what Anti Heroes do

    • @Carloszavalalol
      @Carloszavalalol Před 2 lety +1

      Spider-Man 2.

    • @keving5004
      @keving5004 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Carloszavalalol They havent made a movie any where near that quality in years

    • @guccifer764
      @guccifer764 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s not so much giving them the benefit if the doubt insomuch as it is “here’s how they could salvage it… but probably won’t”

  • @noelcrenshaw7969
    @noelcrenshaw7969 Před 2 lety +7

    The og madam web is old but If i remember correctly, madam web passed her powers on to the former (i think) spiderwoman julia carpenter. So i imagine thats where sony is going with Dakota Johnson

    • @Tr1pleS1ngleZer0
      @Tr1pleS1ngleZer0 Před 2 lety

      You‘re right.
      The og Madame Webb died and passed her abilities and her blindness to the 2nd Spider woman Julia carpenter.

    • @CityPlannerPlaysChair
      @CityPlannerPlaysChair Před 2 lety

      They're allegedly circling Vera Farmiga or Sandra Bullock for the role. More MCU Aunt May age

  • @TheJereld
    @TheJereld Před 9 měsíci +2

    Bad Babi should be the next villain. "Cash me outsy, How bout Dat, Spiderman?!"

  • @nabongobong9155
    @nabongobong9155 Před 2 lety +2

    I gotta say this is a very FRESH take on Spiderman and The Sinister Six.
    I can only imagine the scene where Jameson gave his speech after the presumed death of Spiderman, saying that he ended the menace and now he is coming after The Sinister Six, and they watch from different places as it is broadcasted through the news, the internet, and everywhere just like in NWH
    I also love the promise that these people are just freaks and not all evil who is being hunted down by the authorities

  • @tran4of3
    @tran4of3 Před 2 lety

    Oh man, def glad I rewatched this after watching the Patreon cut. Heck yeah, El Muerto! Always fun takes, Nando!

  • @trickyricky4731
    @trickyricky4731 Před 2 lety +2

    At this point we'll get a "Big Wheel" movie soon
    EDIT: I hadn't watched the full video, I didn't know you actually brought that up

  • @TherealLEGOman2005
    @TherealLEGOman2005 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the plush charl in the background

  • @OhNoBohNo
    @OhNoBohNo Před 2 lety +3

    Nando feels like he's actively losing his mind throughout this whole video, with the little post-editing scene being a foreshadowing for where he's going xD

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson Před 2 lety +2

    Nando: pitches idea
    Sony: get him an agent and a screenwriter!

  • @skyeoak3
    @skyeoak3 Před 2 lety

    Wasn’t expecting to have the Mucho Lucho theme song running through my head on this evening of April 2022. I suppose life is about the small surprises.

  • @Ultramagnetic808
    @Ultramagnetic808 Před rokem +3

    What are their common goals?
    Well they kinda just wanna go Morbin around.

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 Před 2 lety +3

    I hope that Roderick Kingsley and Stegeon the Dinosaur man are in the this sinister six.

  • @VonderHorse
    @VonderHorse Před 2 lety +2

    Sony's Sinister Six continuity gives off big Fox X-Men continuity vibes

  • @moonmyers2608
    @moonmyers2608 Před 2 lety +2

    It all ties into El Muerto

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/6Kft6kgN6Cs/video.html

  • @safariatari1094
    @safariatari1094 Před 2 lety +17

    I like the idea, but maybe having Andrew's spiderman beat within 1 scene by Jameson, Smithe and Scorpion would leave a bad taste in the mouths of the public who (in majority) have just recently started to like his version of spiderman. You could have Spider-man play more of an active role but not necessarily a main role. Maybe (if we're taking a more fun route) you can have him team up against scorpion and smithe with the 6 in a final battle, and maybe his relationship with the team (the Sinister 7?) makes them all hate him, so you can lead into a Sinister 6 vs spiderman film in future. I also think because we're using Scorpion, Venom, and Kraven, this is a perfect opportunity to de-power eddie by either giving the symbiote to Andrew and then crafting a story around Kraven's last hunt, or giving the symbiote to scorpion and having him appear as a villain to Andrew in a new TASM film.

  • @spiraljumper74
    @spiraljumper74 Před 2 lety +10

    Well, this video has set me up for a massive disappointment when the Sinister Six movie comes out and is inevitably not nearly as well-considered and sensical as this.

  • @Alex-24610
    @Alex-24610 Před rokem +1

    In recent news, this whole thing can no longer be in the TASM universe. The Kraven trailer has the Rhino and it’s the rhino mutant skin instead of the mech.

  • @jamiemccreath3959
    @jamiemccreath3959 Před 2 lety +17

    Still doesn't seem that interesting, we've seen this kind of story done better with Civil War and the X-Men movies

  • @cougarkids4978
    @cougarkids4978 Před 2 lety

    I have to say of all your movie fixes and pitches this is one of your best. It rebrands this antiheroes as outcasts and renegades. There are forced into this situation. And I love the Jamison gives them the name sinister six

  • @aurelieleclerc4514
    @aurelieleclerc4514 Před 2 lety

    Super cool idea ! I'd love to watch that movie AND it would make sense 🙌🙌

  • @crait
    @crait Před 2 lety

    Awesome idea

  • @seanmiller4170
    @seanmiller4170 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If they want to do a cinematic universe where they build up a team before an eventual big team-up film, why not the Wild Pack or Slingers?

  • @laura-erikapetrides6457
    @laura-erikapetrides6457 Před rokem +1

    what if, and hear me out, instead of there being a Spiderman in this universe, its somehow a different one, and Norman Osborne is running for mayor. he was mayor in the games, and he could be the final villain, green goblin.

  • @Hertaspacestation6980
    @Hertaspacestation6980 Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine El Muerte had a solo movie and he battle an evil El Muerte. This sounds so bad that sony put Spiderman cameos. And in opening weekend they earn $6 Billion. Turns out the spiderman cameo is in the post credit only.

    • @cartoonishidealism582
      @cartoonishidealism582 Před 2 lety +1

      I mean, in the comics he fights against a golden masked wrestler who looks almost exactly like him just with a golden costume, named El Dorado so…yeah. You’re probably right on the money there.

  • @filmvipers
    @filmvipers Před 2 lety +1

    "They haven't even mentioned Spider-Man"
    Me: Cries in Let there be carnage and NWH credits

  • @websurfer8670
    @websurfer8670 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a great pitch

  • @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
    @BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Před 2 lety +2

    The horror on my face at 6:40 when I realised he made this video before the Forbes report that Sony already asked Andrew to be the Spider-Man of the Spumc and he declined. 😭

  • @themarinefan
    @themarinefan Před rokem +1

    I do believe that sinsister six movie would take place on earth 120703. Since Morbius does not ask who spider-man is he most likely already heard of him. And it would most likely be a story of vulture forming the sinister six to get back home to earth 199999 and they still do crimes and things but just to get the things vulture needs, where in it seems like betrays them but has a change of heart and take his new 5 friends home with him (with bands to stop them from doing the spiderverse glitch)
    And that's how we get the sinister six in the mcu.

  • @shinkaiatsuya950
    @shinkaiatsuya950 Před 2 lety +2

    Morbuis was already an obscure choice but now Sony wants to do discount Bane.
    Only Sony can think of a worse idea than the previous bad one.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety

      Then after that they make a movie about the beloved Spider-Man villain Kangaroo

    • @shinkaiatsuya950
      @shinkaiatsuya950 Před 2 lety +1

      @@IcyDiamond could make a movie about Spiderman's Mecha but not feature Spiderman.

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety

      @@shinkaiatsuya950 A movie about The Wall, a real Spider-Man villain that I’m not making up

    • @mangomicrowave6565
      @mangomicrowave6565 Před 2 lety +1

      Doesn't James Gunn did this with GOTG

  • @donanastaciodelegazpi1062

    I'd hate a sinister 6 movie, but if I absolutely have to have one, I wouldn't hate this that much..

  • @eddyrapino9071
    @eddyrapino9071 Před 2 lety +1

    Mcu vulture's design was S tier

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 Před 2 lety +2

    8:00 I think what that means is that Sony is going to use madame web to have crossovers with Tom Holland's Spider-Man and SPUMC verse because I don't think Sony wants to constantly rely on Disney and Marvel to do crossovers with Spider-Man by having Doctor Strange being in these films

  • @RonHallKungFuBro
    @RonHallKungFuBro Před 2 lety

    Bravo! You connected all the right dots and generated an idea that is infinitely more exciting than the movie that they will actually make,; unfortunately all those great ideas will go to waste. Bravo. Enjoy your channel :)

  • @ArchetGames
    @ArchetGames Před 2 lety

    Mucha Lucha had me reeling I forgot that show existed

  • @Ze___r0
    @Ze___r0 Před 2 lety +14

    Can’t this Vulture be the one that was on this universe? He could’ve went to the MCU during the NWH events and came back after. I really don’t know if this is possible, I haven’t watched Morbius and I don’t intend to.

    • @ryanlindemuth9770
      @ryanlindemuth9770 Před 2 lety

      you know.. that's not a bad theory

    • @SoloDoloSpaceman
      @SoloDoloSpaceman Před 2 lety

      Morbius is a decent flick. Don’t let the unwarranted hate train deter you.

    • @CityPlannerPlaysChair
      @CityPlannerPlaysChair Před 2 lety +1

      That's what they SHOULD have done, but didn't. They could just retcon if because who cares at this point

  • @macrobertson25
    @macrobertson25 Před 2 lety

    Wow that El Muerto bit ended on a very defeated note...and I get it

  • @jeremymorris345
    @jeremymorris345 Před 2 lety +1

    Unironiclly I would love to see a modern day take on big wheel or that wall dude

  • @tyshawnfennell9319
    @tyshawnfennell9319 Před 2 lety

    This is perfect

  • @kevinlockhart2000
    @kevinlockhart2000 Před rokem +1

    Sinister Six team members:
    Venom
    Morbius
    Kraven
    Black Cat
    Silver Sables
    El Muerto
    Later additions:
    Vulture
    Solo
    Man Wolf
    Shocker
    Chameleon
    Scorpion
    Rhino
    Sandman
    Electro
    Lizard
    Green Goblin
    Doctor Octopus
    Mysterio

  • @jacktoma21
    @jacktoma21 Před 2 lety +2

    I kind of just assumed that when the cured villains were sent back they simply created branching timelines, with one not affecting the others. Tobey and Andrew go back and things still went down exactly the same from the previous movies. Mostly I thought this because I didn’t want anything to get reconned from the movies I liked.

  • @ProdCritic
    @ProdCritic Před 2 lety +2

    Amy Pascal: Let's take a character whose powers are based on a form of entertainment that peaked before Nickelback even did, and cast him with someone who has basically never acted before. Also he's not a hero or a villain, in fact he has no real motivation to fight anyone. Sidenote, we cant get Tom Holland or Andrew Garfield to agree to be in it so no Spiderman. Deal?

  • @sourduck_art
    @sourduck_art Před rokem +1

    They're making a hypno hustler movie now💀

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 Před 2 lety +4

    As long AVI ARAD lives
    There's no hope for Sony's Marvel movies

  • @mbletz3958
    @mbletz3958 Před 2 lety

    I honestly love how much this pitch has references to Spider-Man the Animated Series

  • @dragon_ninja_2186
    @dragon_ninja_2186 Před 2 lety

    Great pitch. Probably won’t end up happening but still curious on how they’re gonna do this team up movie.

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 Před 2 lety +1

    10:40 I can't believe this obscure Spider-Man character is getting their own spinoff movie