The big problem with comparing Trump to Nixon
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2018
- Donald Trump may look a lot like Richard Nixon right now. But there is one glaring difference between these two men’s presidencies: Fox News.
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Trump and Nixon are similar in a lot of ways: they both faced major FBI investigations, were accused of obstructing justice, lashed out at the media, and oozed raw sexual charisma. Some pundits look at those similarities and assert that, like Nixon, Trump will also face impeachment.
But Nixon never had Fox News. As trust in mainstream media has collapsed over the past 40 years, the amount of conservative media has exploded. And sources like Fox News have spent months casting doubt on the FBI and the Mueller special investigation.
Without a uniting narrative in the media, it’s unlikely Trump will face impeachment or that Republicans in Congress will be the ones to hold the president accountable for his actions, regardless of what Mueller ultimately finds.
On Strikethrough, Vox producer Carlos Maza explores the challenges facing the news media in the age of Trump. Follow Carlos on Facebook for more: / carlosmazavox
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Fox news isn't just supporting Trump -- they're speaking directly to him. Watch the Strikethrough episode on it here: bit.ly/2FVpjxS
Vox your a joke
Alot of what fox saying is true. You'll be foolish to think otherwise. I'm not an American. I watch multiple news channels and analyze the info for my self. I'm not under any illusion, there is a Deepstate.
if you listen to Fox news, you might also as well read the National Enquirer & Star news too because you've obviously given up on reality
Fox news is the propaganda arm of the Deepstate™
Well, I am not an American, but even I know that the other channels are mostly democrat propaganda so why Trump can't have at least one TV on his side? Is it only good when TV is biased against Trump?
*Politically enraged comment*
I dissagree with your enraged comment. How can you think that?
Justin Y. You frickin’ watch Vox? You’re on every frickin video I watch, from Parappa the rapper gameplay to this
*Inflammatory response coupled with implied personal insult*
ShinyArceusGames50 I was about to say I see this guy's comments everywhere.
Bilal Khalid “Vox is biased news because their reporting goes against what I believe 😡.”
Richard Nixon: "I AM NOT A CROOK!"
Donald Trump:"Covfefe"
Yuck why was that coffee thing EVER focused on?
Jeroim3142 coffee?
Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss LOTS OF COVFEFE
@@JamieJRJames RAAAAMONE
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Growing up as a student o history, I used to think people today would be smarter than those that came before us.
Boy was I wrong 😂
Bo Yang boy were they wrooong
@@amireinav1 the odd1sout?
Gamingcenter a.k.a Fattos duh
They are, except the "people" are the machines we're endowing with intelligence. Trust me, they'll be a lot smarter than you - even better at doing science, math and programming (including the field of Artificial Intelligence itself). That's my project.
Vote Yang!
At least Nixon resigned peacefully due to the integrity of the presidency- Trump is throwing a tantrum.
How ? He’s gonna leave office once it’s January, so how you know he’s going to throw a tantrum?
@@Ihategobblegum We hopw he leaves, he is still saying he is winning the election.
@@supremeastro5300 he’s gonna leave once it’s January so I’m not sure why ur saying hoping, but if the court rules to his favor then 4 more years of Mr.45 💯🇺🇸
@@Ihategobblegum He's currently throwing a tantrum by refusing to let Biden in on anything, and not allowing the start of the move-in process (They don't start the moving projects on inauguration day, it takes time to do). Every other recent president has welcomed their replacement within days of the vote being called by the AP.
Update: Trump is still lying about voter fraud, and most Republicans are on board with overturning the results of the legitimate election.
It's so ironic that Fox News spends so much time calling all of these other networks biased, lol.
Someone has to do it
Well because they are...
Funniest thing is when they call them "mainstream media"... Oh sorry didn't see you there indie Fox News lol...
InsidiousSwede they probably spend more money making other news outlets look bad than they spend promoting themselves
Steve Learner that is FNN
Last time I was this early, we had a deal with Iran.
Topical
Sukaiei last time I was early, George Washington was still US president
Sukaiei Last time i was this early we were giving billions to Iran and getting almost nothing but false promises in return.
Divine Hazard Not making nuclear bombs in ten years over 0 to me is a good deal
stickysyrupboi Then the ability to do so in under a year after. All it does is give them money and push the problem down the road. Which is idiotic.
I can hardly imagine a world where all Americans hear the same news outlets.
Nixon: President turned crook
Trump: crook turned President
Haha, good one! 🏆
He was always a crook lol
😂. The dork will be in handcuffs soon
@@sbevexlr848
Not true,
Vice President Nixon under President Eisenhower is one of the best VPs we've had in the past 75 years.
It wasn't till the early 70's that Nixon became truly corrupt and terrible.
Nixon always was a paragon of virtue, Trump was and is an honest hardworking American
How ironic that Hannity called left wing reporters “partisan hacks”.
Hannity is honest about his right wing political bias. However, CNN and other networks hide behind the lie of objectivity while pushing their left wing bias. Big difference.
I could understand Vox, BuzzFeed or perhaps the Huffington Post, but the only way CNN are "pushing their left wing bias" is if you're so far right that the world is tilted. I can understand complaints about their Opinion pieces, but those are biased, and they are supposed to be. Unlike with Fox, they are not passed off as news, but rather as opinions that you can agree or disagree with. Other than that, their non-political journalism doesn't contain political ideology (I'm not so sure the same could be said for Fox), and their political journalism likes to focus on Trump as he is a very prominent political figure, and lots of people are interested in him, so $$$. Also, the reason why they cover Trump scandals so much is because there are so many, and about such a prominent figure. There is no-one with larger scandals to report on in the USA, except for Harvey Weinstein, and he's old news.
Well they are hacks, and he is too, just on the right.
Adam Dillon honest like the time Hannity disclosed a potential conflict of interest... that the president's unethical attorney is his "real estate consultant"?
CNN isn't honest about their bias. CNN disproportionately covers crime stories when whites are the criminal group. When there is a discussion, the "conservative" is selected carefully to appear ignorant and is routinely outnumbered to appear "out of touch". Stories, where Trump is cast in a good light, are ignored while stories, where Trump is cast in a bad light, are exaggerated.
CNN never questioned the orthodoxy of the "hands up, don't shoot" claims of Black lives matter. CNN has Stormy Daniel's lawyer on nightly. CNN has a new "Trump / Russia" story daily... despite no serious evidence of collusion.
Pretending that CNN isn't playing fast and loose with facts in an effort to drive public opinion would be a dishonest task.
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Amir Hagit Einav how do you see that?
Nathan A. That was earlier
If we can't get past the Fox News effect, we my lose our democracy. People are paying attention to the news stations that agree with their point of view, and nothing else.
Amen. Polarization will be our downfall, together we stand divided we fall.
Bob Channell we aren’t a democracy, we never have been, we are a constitutional republic, we don’t live my the populous or mob rule
@@calebdismuke8166 I love seeing a smart person in the comments, bless you. The constitution was specifically designed to keep our republic or becoming a democracy
LOL the funny thing is, Fox was right about the Russian Collusion. Sooo, what does that say about the other new stations that said "The walls are closing in" about Trump "colluding" with Russia?
Chris Bishop thank you, god bless America
"God, that sounds peaceful."
Truer words have never been spoken.
As a video editor and motion graphics artist I absolutely love the aesthetics of Vox.
BanditRants Aaaaaaaaaaa what good my dude~
Based on what you know, how long do you think it would take to edit this video? (not including script writing, research etc)
Too bad that’s all they’re good at, aesthetics. I wonder if they reported accurate informational context then they wouldn’t have such high dislike ratings. People are picking up on this. This is yellow journalism, persuading ignorant individuals. Voxs’ facts are all construed to their biases and it is sickening to watch, knowing unfortunate people in my millennial generation don’t care enough to research on their own and believe this disgusting joke of political commentary.
Chad Pflieger let me guess your "multiple" sources are fox and Breitbart, two networks the piggyback off each other. They tell you how to think and what to think, they believe all of their viewers are too stupid to put together their own opinion so they tell them how to think. And this video isn't yellow journalism, just because it upset you doesn't make it not true. When people only get their news from one sided establishments their going to think one way.
micklemore Sorry to burst your bubble, but Chad is right. Vox is extremely biased which is why they tell you not to trust sources such as Buzzfeed or Vox.
Y’all better vote and not stay at home
Master Kush Every time, Master!!
No one to vote for.
If you live in a republican state, vote your congressman out this November.
And vote in a liberal? What would that achieve? Your liberals are part of the reason we got here in the first place.
Millionsofpeas hahahahaha
This is interesting to me in how my parents talked about the change in party loyalty. My dad said that many years ago, people really didn't vote as much on right vs left, even though he himself voted Republican. But there was no issue he had with people voting Libral, and people more often voted against their general "party" that they associated themselves with. Now days, people tend to vote red or blue because that's who they have loyalty towards, not because they have any idea what someone is actually saying.
Ikr!! I think for example the 2016 election was absolutely ALL about character and qualifications for presidency. People spent the majority of time debating who was more fit or who was more loyal to what they actually were GOING TO DO in office. It really made no sense. For example one of the only things policy-wise that dominated the headlines was “the Mexican wall”. And it was just simply sad to see a country likeAmerica shift and center there election coverage to stupidity
Surprisingly, I believe back then, republicans were extremely progressive for their time
Its absolutely baffling to me how people will turn to a news media outlet where the focus in on insults and personal attacks.
This is actually scary and I'm not even American...
From an outside perspective, do you think that if the American people revolted other nations would get involved?
@@andricknyx8534 bet that China would work with the rebels they are in favour. Their market strategy and their leaders clearly show that. Communism was always very aggressive.
@@andricknyx8534 Of course they would. Who wouldn't want a piece of the world's largest superpower? I think there would be 3 main powers in such a situation, Russia, China and the EU.
@@andricknyx8534 Yes, but it wouldn't be for the benefit of the American people.
My Name then your opinion doesn’t matter
Ok but Nixon did some good during his first term. Trump has been under investigation since before even taking the oath
This article is pointing out differences not similarities. Also the specific subject is different..Nixon was facing an Obstruction of Justice impeachment and Trump is in a similar-ish situation. Then the host talks about how DIFFERENT they are. (I wasn't trying to sound angry with the all caps, just putting an inflection where one is needed, since you cannot hear me)
Kevin G I mean the Korean War now over, but I guess your not going to say trump had anything to do with it
paunchy beast we really didn’t have anything to do with it besides propagating war and only making tensions even farther. Kim Jong Un has done more to create peace then trump has
He wasn't OFFICIALLY under Investigation until he fired James Comey.
Yes im sure Trump had a lot to do with the Korean peace and totally not the fact that Kim jong un visited china a few weeks earlier and their nuclear weapons site got destroyed by an earthquake. For sure.
When I m watching almost any American news I m physically cringing
Luca Michael Especially Vox, amirite?
Nico Nicolae sometimes, nothing beats fox though
Luca Michael Not even close.
Nico Nicolae no ❤️
4:25 nixon dabbed lol
LOL
Why does US news tell people how to think? Just like say the facts and let people make up their own mind, like how actual democratic countries work.
Because it doesnt sell and political motivation.
Was pretty drunk when I added his comment tbh
We're not a democracy we're a constitutional republic democracy is just mob rule
Conal O'Hara
Drunk or not, I believe you made a valid point. Although, we can wish and hope and even pray (for those who wish to do so). However, it may or may not make a difference.
Politics.
Way too much for me to follow. I’d love if they only stated the facts so I could make my own opinion. How am I supposed to research for myself when it’s so difficult to find absolute 100% truth from the internet? Or at least for me to believe what I’m reading is actually truthful. It would make so much more sense if the NEWS would give us the actual NEWS and not their own opinions. Not that opinions are necessarily bad... but are they good? It’s like they’re debating what they believe rather than giving us the NEWS.
Another thing, since I can’t quite research confidently(which could very well be my own fault-not feeling confident in finding the correct information) how AM I supposed to know I’m believing the correct thing I’m hearing/reading/watching?
I never get this two sides thing. Sure we had in my country 2 mayor players but also smaller partys that gained trust and had a different agenda. Maybe i dont get it right, but land of the free is not what i see. Love lars
Echo chambers are bad and problematic, and they exist both on the right and left. This video, however, is about two Republican politicians and the Republican party’s attempts to obscure the facts around their respective scandals, so of course it would focus more on conservative echo chambers. It’s not bias, it’s focusing on the subject - they never once said that left wing echo chambers don’t exist or that they aren’t harmful.
Absolutely true, but I still think the video implies that everything would be great if Republicans just watched the same liberal news sources that Carlos does. Even if (or especially if) all of mainstream agrees on something, you should definitely be questioning the narrative.
What scandal is trump under?
imuw really .....
Ernest really, he's never been under investigation. So really.
>Echo chambers are bad and problematic, and they exist both on the right and left.
They exist mostly for the enlightened centrists who watch mainsteam media propaganda all day.
Nixon never betrayed his country by seeking assistance of a foreign nation to interfere in an election. Nixon also resigned as he didn't want to be further embarrassment to the nation. In short, he had some measurable dignity and morals.
Sorry could you remind me when Trump got assistance by a foreign nation. Can't remember.
@@Charlie-uz8vb *sends like to yakko's world song*
Depressing how there's been such a rise in demand for a service that tells you what and how to think..
At least Nixon could count to 10
And one is a billionaire
Noah Bowie libaral
wisegeorge365 well actually he is a billionaire soooo
wisegeorge365 how do you think that trump managed to start a company worth hundreds of millions, make buildings and towers amend after himself, be able to build the wall right out of his pocket which is an estimated 3 billion, he has also been a multi billionaire for decades, if you don’t believe me you can look at the entire building he had made for himself, and his net estimate by left wing news cites like Forbes
wisegeorge365 his real estate empire is worth hundreds of billions, his tower he built, his tower, the one that he owns, is worth hundreds of millions. His worth was found recently by Forbes, as of 2019, as much as 3 billion dollars. Right there, that’s my evidence, you actually are arguing with me as to wether trump is a billionaire or not, he is, I just cited a source that found he is worth 3 billions dollars as of right now, today, 2019! Stop this, I know you have nothing better to do with your life, it’s obvious, you are watching Vox, with a man with ear rings and a beta haircut and the most punchable face compare trump to Nixon because he has nothing better to do
The only difference that matters: Nixon resigned. Trump won't.
Trump won't need to, there has been no evidence of Trump having any direct knowledge or information of the meddling of Russian intelligence with the campaign. His election staff is a different issue which is why they are going after them, they've been trying to find a link back to Trump but cannot. This is pretty much what I expected, Trump most likely had no idea Russia was doing anything to aid him, clueless as he is, he is probably innocent.
Whether you believe he is guilty or not, he would absolutely resign if there were enough indicators that he would be successfully impeached - for example if the majority of his own party was calling for it.
The reason why he'd resign instead of await impeachment is that he would lose his power to pardon his own crime and impeachment. If he were impeached he could be tried and imprisoned for his treasonous acts. If he resigned before impeachment, the vice-president would become president and would certainly issue a pardon to him for his crimes.
He may be an idiot, but I think even Trump could see in that situation that there are no benefits to awaiting an impending impeachment, and instead resign.
Resignation would be an admission to guilt. Resignation is genuinely used to save face, whether he was guilty or not this would not be the case for Trump. The media rather hates him and will use it to destroy whatever character he has left, The vice president takes over regardless if he's impeached or resigns. Pardons can happen after convictions are dealt. If he resigns before formally being impeached the impeachment charges are dropped and never gets convicted by the senate. If he truly is innocent there is no real upside to him resigning. BTW taking money from Russian businessmen is not an impeachable or arrestable offense unless you can prove that he made promises that would hurt the U.S. defenses. If he took the money for promises that he would be tougher on the Chinese, thats not impeachable.
Michael Izquierdo Its come out now that he did know something. Michael Cohen stated that he knew about the Trump tower meeting and knew the intent of the meeting.
Jonah - I'm sure you're right about that. Trump will probably have to be forcefully removed from the White House when the day comes. Or he'll slip out the back and take his private jet to Moscow.
Insult to Nixon being compared to Trumpster 😳😳😳
Don't be idiotic:
-Nixon must have something to do with JFK's assassination
-He praised J Edgar Hoover and Kissinger
-Took off the gold standard
-Started War on Drugs
-Abuse of power
And someway Nixon is a saint compared to Trump? At least Trump hates Hillary Clinton because at least Trump is nowhere bad as her
@@Charles-hy6gp Nixon had nothing to do with JFK assasination, if you think that then you have researched nothing !!!!
@@Charles-hy6gp If anything Lbj might have something to do with jfk assassination.
@@northernlad9424 I think he got that from the Oliver Stone movie.
Fox News gives me a headache🤦♂️
You give me a headache
@@OppoRancisis Your mom gives me head
@@jonathanmomentbruh3307 you give your father head
@@OppoRancisis Your mom is your sister
@@grengren1359
I hope you like hospital food
Trump isn’t Nixon, he’s Berlusconi
Marc Eric Lane and you are nobody
Marc Eric Lane he is the God Emperor
Berlusconi was at least successful or something.
Berlusconi wasn't broke
Berlusconi knows how to hide a corruption racket for a term or two.
2:15 i have every last bit of respect for that guy.
Nice
"Trump's time is running out."
-Well this is awkward
Zach Eragon except it’s not
Yeah in about 5 more years.
Paul Williams this aged well
Any moment now...
Iain Yeah, it really did.
80% of the comments = "whatabout, whatabout, whatabout..."
JC Andrijeski this should be the top comment
"80% of the comments = bringing up the parts of the story that liberal media chooses to ignore because it doesn't fit their narrative"
Nah nope - example? I don't watch braindead cable news, but I also don't see any "parts of the story" in the comments. Other than a bunch of people yelling about how they heard a rumor about ____.
You mean addressing the crimes of Hillary and the DNC while you cite zero evidence of Trump and illegal activity?
It's called integrity you clown.
"Zero evidence" now means 19+ indictments and 4+ convictions/guilty please. What a time to be alive, the English language changes so fast.
Why is news allowed to be biased. It should be as objective as possible. Present us with the facts, the arguments for both sides, not push us towards a stance
my homies at AP are where it's at
In this case free press does not fulfill its functions and acts as something like junk food. Thanks to the Internet, all what I need I get from the source.
Because facts itself does not tell the story to most people. Let say you pay a research company to help you do research regarding the market of automotive industry. Which one do you prefer to buy, a book filled purely with raw data, such as statistics, table, graph; or an in-depth analysis regarding those data as well? That's what the news do, they give analysis to frame the data within a context, which because analysis were by human, biases will influence the way the analysis were made.
fox new claims it isn't even news though. it calls itself an "entertainment" channel with a couple news programs. hannity himself claims to not be a journalist, just a tv presenter.
and honestly sometimes reporting the facts as they are can just sound biased. like take climate change for example. the majority of the scientific community is in consensus that it's real and man-made. by presenting the facts it's going to sound weighted in their favor bc the opposition just has conspiracy theories, unsubstantiated claims, and fudged numbers from studies funded by companies that benefit from less environmental regulation. so by presenting both sides as equal in the spirit of not sounding biased you perpetuate an argument that isn't really an argument.
i feel like we don't necessarily need less "biased" news so much as wee need more accurate news, whichever way the facts lean.
It's because money. Money follows viewership which follows hype which follows sensationalism. The expression,"if it bleeds, it leads" sums up journalism for profit. It's not even their fault. Once upon a time, the news was thought of like vegetables, you don't really like it, but it's good for you. Now News is a 24 hour ice cream sundae, eat til you're sick.
This narrator is hilarious! It occurs to me often that Vox chooses narrators who would definitely rub your average conservative the wrong way (skinny boys, hipster-looking, speaking with vocal fry, sometimes highly flamboyant - presenting in a way that appeals to more to young democratic voters than to, say, an old square stuffy tobacco-chewing fuddyduddy...dare I generalize?). So the viewers most receptive to the Vox minidoc messengers are usually people who already believe the message, to an extent. If Vox had a pseudoconservative sister channel with a bunch of jarheaded beastmen & Kelly Ann Conway lookalikes and republicanesque clickbait titles - while presenting liberal arguments from a seemingly conservative viewpoint - this would be much more useful to everyone, right? Rather than preaching to the choir, we could get the word out to the people most insulated from the facts: Trump's base.
But that's quite a tangent...all I was initially going to say is that this fellow is one of your most charismatic hosts. Looking forward to seeing more!
@82465amen then don't
The Opposition with Jordan Klepper is actually an imitation of right-wing news that fits that description but I don't believe it's running anymore...
they would never do that because they’re appealing to the only people they care to appeal to
Great point. Vox is the Fox News for democrats. If it appealed more to Republicans maybe they could spread a message.
True but I swear that more Vox viewers would watch news like Vice than Vice would watch Vox regardless of who they choose as narrarators
Nixon was a career politician, he was a DC insider and Trump was his own brand of celebrity. That’s the main difference.
We're reaching levels of irony that shouldn't even be possible
Dcode Vox is complaining about Fox being a bad echo chamber, but they’re doing the exact same thing, in their video about echo chambers. I didn’t think it was possible either
The Feraligatr cave
"Psy Ops"
But Fox News is the KING of the Echo Chamber News,and have been for years! Vox is no better,but they are amateurs in comparision.
Carlos N He never really said whether he was a FOX watcher, though.
But those studies they mentioned implied that, for the people in government at least, liberalism wasn’t getting more extreme
Please cover something about the Malaysian election
Cheng Tan yes
Sorry. That doesn't fit they anti Trump agenda
Erik LDM michael Cohen is doing that for trump with his LLC
Cheng Tan + I don't think they would unless something about 1MDB comes in light. I guess we should cover something of our recent GE14. We malaysians need our own Vox...not just Tony Pua and Nandini...haha
Just like Teddy's Bull Moose party won the election eh?
one of the biggest issues i have with conservative media is people are mistaking opinion for fact. i grew up in a house where my parents turned on Hannity or Tucker Carlson and they think they’re speaking fact
"We're in a flaming media hellscape right now"
What do you call today then?!
Keep in mind that media can go way left as well. There is also no solution to these problems.
We need Walter Cronkite back.
Biggest difference between Trump and Nixon: Nixon had about 100 more IQ points...
24 hour news is a problem in general, doesn't matter where you get it from. 24 hour news doesn't give people the time and space to think on their own.
Thank you for this video. It explained a lot to me. One small addition: in 1974 the USA still was traumatized by the Vietnam-war; the USA just left with their tale between the legs and a Republican president.
"That's the way it is"
That's the way it is, that's the way he wants you to believe it is.
Nixon: President who became a Crook.
Trump: Crook who became a President.
Perfectly put!!! 👍👍👍
At least Nixon had an Obamacare-like health plan
Also Nixon was competent.
The guy was batshit crazy. He was paranoid. Don't try and call him competent. Yeah, he had potential as a diplomat but he ruined any chance of him becoming great.
he also started the drug war to target us black folks and we have his racism on tapes. Wish I believed in hell so I know that devil burning
@Epic NEd - he may have been a frelling lunatic, the Oval Office tapes (that they were even made is a strike already) show just how different he was in private vs. public, but at least _he _*_understood_*_ how government works_ and had a staff and advisors who did as well. The trump administration is *filled* with people whose only qualifications are either that they’re sycophants, independently wealthy or xenophobic/racist/bigoted (or any combination thereof)... there has *_never_* been an administration this _wholly unqualified._
White male!
@Midnightspecia1 is correct, I forgot to mention that _”qualification”_ of trump administration officials, in order of importance: sycophants, independently wealthy, *white males* (regardless of criminal history or inability to get a security clearance) all of whom need to be either xenophobic, racist or bigoted.
Should have sanctions and fines for news companies who ate caught lying to fulfill their agenda
Fun fact: Nixon and Trump each have an average of one impeachment
Oof
Nixon was not impeached. He resigned before it happened.
@@bobblueford I know. Nixon has zero impeachments and Trump has two. Therefore, Nixon and Trump each have an average of one impeachment
@@sumelk1020 Oh, oh, oh! I see.
At least Nixon was competent
At least you can tell what he’s saying
The big difference between Trump and Nixon is that at least Nixon was competent.
I agree, at least Nixon wanted the dam job and he did do some good-he was still an ass but at least there was some substance to his presidency.
drumphie not competent XDDDD
Fox News in a nutshell "They're trying to get us". Here, I summarized you everything Fox News shows on TV in a nutshell.
Both in theory & in politics. ;)
Oh no man you aren't a bias tool.
No you're all logic man.
+Salterino Kripperino
Fox is literally the most watched news station in the US.
They are literally "mainstream".
Fox and CNN in a nutshell “believe what we believe our your wrong and we hate you”
CNN in a nutshell, Russia Russia Russia
2019 update
This is more relevant than ever during the impeachment inquiry
2020 update
It's not relevant at all anymore.
2021 update
This is more relevant than ever during the _second_ impeachment trial...
Ross Jennings lol
If ever America needed a modern day Walter Cronkite, it was now
Get ready for all the onservative and russian hate Vox.
Parth Gajjar “onservative”
And all the blind and ignorant support of vox
Russians? You don't wanna accept the half of your own country's population! Why do you think you have always reason?
I'm Russian and I'm actually quite fond of Vox.
Conservatives already hate vox. All of their arguments are based on facts taken out of context. They’re talking about a conservative echochamber but they’re a liberal one
I agree with the general message of this video but they're downplaying the role of conservative media as an idea. The National Review was a major publication with serious intellectual backing. William F. Buckley was a very intelligent man no matter your opinion on him and he had very clear ideas on government and he carried, for better or worse, an air of authority. He was the loyal opposition which is needed in any democracy. We should always have a voice that argues the counterpoint because it allows for discussion and the evolution of ideas. Equating the National Review with Fox News or internet trolls only opens up unfavorable comparison of liberal outlets to the Pravda.
Very, very true. Fewer conservative outlets existed then but they were far more credible.
arguing a counterpoint is one thing, spinning is something else
chomsky curbstomped buckley
I'll agree that as an editor William F. Buckley at least generally respected objective reality, which makes him a hundred times better than the Right-wing media today.
I love Vox, but thank you.
Nixon showed signs of intelligence.
Stupid presidents appeal to stupid people. Stupid
@@sebastiangarcia-yb5ro Hillary appealed to stupid people yet she still can't win
thanos fish considering that most adults without college degrees voted for Trump by an overwhelming majority, considering that most with 2+ degrees voted for Clinton by a lot, yeah sure your logic holds up
Can you do video about CNN and other main stream medias manipulations?
All cable news is awful and unreliable.
hehe 69%
Joshua Baldonado n i c e
*N I C E*
Joshua Baldonado 66th like. 3 more to go people! 😂
Nice.
Joshua Baldonado niccccccccccce
Vox should do a video on the “Liberal Elite” perception versus the “Republican Elite” perception
what is that?
They're 99% the same. One just has more pity for the average person.
And everybody stuck in the middle
When liberals say "elites", they mean rich people and corporations. When conservatives say "elites", they mean college professors and administrators, government experts and bureaucrats, the liberal media, Hollywood, and _certain_ big businesses (like some tech companies, etc.)
Reyes Ortega Yeah I know but I still think I would be a cool video
There is also the 40IQ point difference.
What on earth is that terrible graph at 4:37? That's a terrible scale for the y-axis, and it does a terrible job of telling us how much trust in the media has fallen.
Even the bar graph at 5:10 is terribly out of scale. How on earth is anyone supposed to read them accurately?
it's ok: it's used to highlight the difference better.
Actually no. That terrible scaling is only making the differences almost impossible to comprehend. For example, in the 4:37 graph, even though the republican trust in the media has fallen from 50% to somewhere near 10% (which means the trust has fallen to around 1/5th of the original value), that graph makes it look like it barely even dropped.
Then in 5:10, even though Fox has 5 times the viewership of CNN, the scaling makes it seem like it's only 2-3 times as much.
So it's not highlighting the differences better. Rather, it's underplaying the differences and making the differences less obvious.
good call on the terrible scaling to minimalize the change. i briefly researched their source but could not find anything similar.
the upswing from 51% to 72% in blue in 2017 isn't represented at all.
CITE sources VOX! don't redraw the graph and call it anything except your creation.
i'd appreciate anyone replying here to find an original chart intact.
Technical criticism: Carlos, your audio is clipping in parts. Tell your audio engineer to check his / her levels!
The cameraman in this video is legendary for 2:20
Oh God, please let this guy be taken down.
I can't imagine a situation in which such a person gets away with all of his literally crimes
AND THE FACT THAT HE INCITED AN ATTACK IN THE CAPITOL.
This is really interesting. I love that you gave me historical context in order to understand the past in relation to the present. It does beg the question as to why Americans have reduced trust in the news now. Did it slowly go down after the Vietnam war, or is it Nancy Grace's fault?
We’re doomed.....
This aged well.
Ayy they did the 69 joke! Give that cameraman a raise!
The problem is that comparing two very different people is that they're very different
Bryan Wan I know right?
Bryan Wan it reminds me of when people compare Hilary to Obama. It doesn’t really make sense to do so.
Actually, they compare the environment of the people not the people.
Wow you completely missed the point of this video
Leo Hyams are you talking about me. My point was we pointlessly compare people who have pretty much nothing in common except for their side.
Comparing Nixon to Trump is an insult to Nixon.
Mustafa Ibrahim Nixon created the epa visited China was not against raising the minimum wage
Lmao
@@keithgreenan1850 i think you read the comment wrong Mustafa Ibrahim was saying its an insult to Nixon.
This is depressingly eye opening. 😔
as a former rightwinger i actually am glad i found vox to help me get out my "Ben shapiro DESTROYS undeducated college student in debate" phase
In Russia all TV channels like Fos News
Well America unfortunately this is the messy bed you made for yourself.... godspeed...
I wished the media was objective if you look at fox and cnn they literally are saying completely different things
"Man, that sounds peaceful"
Me: laughing (ww1, Spanish flu, ww2, the cold war, nuclear arm race, space race, revolutions, civil rights...ect)
Sounds peaceful for liberals.
As a European I am so impressed by the whole Vox channel. You guys are a pleasant surprise in American media and you do such important work. I hope that as many people in the states as possible will watch your videos! Keep it up!
"Ooze raw sexual charisma"? Really?
It's joke
* link to a certain subreddit *
Are you familiar with the word (and concept) “sarcasm”?
very good point...vry good point.
Failing to mention the end of the FCC's fairness doctrine leaves this story woefully incomplete. The uniformity of pre-1987 broadcast news wasn't some spontaneous product of the "good old days", it was a matter of Federal regulation.
An innocent man should not have to fear an investigation.
Yes you should fear investigation it's what could possibly get trump impreached we could have world war 3
technology productions 2018 Yes, you seem very intelligent... People like you should be held in isolation without a TV or internet connection.
Oh you know more than the court system, prosecution, and investigative team? You better share your knowledge with them!
Art Of Life unless the investigators aren't truly innocent themselves
technology productions 2018 trump is not getting impeached, it's pretty much impossible so get out liberal
I choose a good day to come back to this video :)
2:15
The yellow part does not reflect 69% of the circle's circumference.
...nice.
Are you arguing for state controlled media?
Don't you want more voices in the media?
John Wayne No, he was mostly arguing about how people tended to watch/listen to news channels that cater towards their political viewpoint. Personally, I feel like liberals and conservative voters would benefit a lot by viewing news from a different perspective of the political spectrum.
More voices isn’t the problem, it’s what they say, or more important what they DONT say. Part of it also goes back to money, because if you think about the 3 networks, they knew they had a sort of monopoly on the news. They didn’t have to worry about ratings so much, so they could give the objective and truthful, no spins and clickbaity stuff. Now however, with all the competition, the news sources with the facts are drowned out by money hungry networks.
Not what he was saying at all dude... Assumption fail.
No. It’d be nice to have standards, though.
The US seriously needs state-paid non-partisan news like a lot of countries in Europe.
Err just to clarify.. Fox anchors and guests probably are _conservative._ The part of their own rhetoric they (well, most of them) are likely too smart to actually believe is making Trump out to be some sort of political god, which is very obviously stupid to anyone who actually tries to read his tweets before "agreeing" with them. I mean the dude can barely grasp English how does anyone believe he can handle more complicated tasks with any level of intelligence?
I think we tried to do a version of that with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, NPR, etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Broadcasting_Act_of_1967
When Berlusconi took power in Italy he fired all opposing voices in the state media and replaced them with people from his own tv networks.
Peter Klint I raise you BBC, to point out that someone will need to watch very carefully to not let any bias seep right back into the newly founded Centrist Super Objective and Trustworthy news network you are suggesting.
Absolutely. At the moment you can spend an entire day watching any cable news channel, and at the end of that day, have no idea what’s going on in the world. An actual news channel would be awesome.
I watch this series all the time and will continue to do so but unfortunately what it does most of the time is make life feel hopeless.
Yeah Nixon won the Popular Vote
Speaking of conservative media, will you do a story of PragerU please?
KnowingBetter has some good videos where he talks about them
Those clowns? Oh lord
My grandma, who literally viewed Nixon and his actions, can tell you that Nixon is much smarter than Trump. But still, the two are pretty damn similar.
“Living in totally different worlds.” Uh yeah, no dip...
I trust Vox 👊
As a conservative, the biggest difference in my view is that Nixon was competent in many areas of politics and Trump is not.
-and this is why I'm a moderate. Not too much and not too little on any side. Just a good o'l MODERATION of some SENSE. smh
Velmex Zorro same here. I haven't been commenting on any videos pertaining to politics because I end up feeling misunderstood by others who don't seem to understand that I base my opinion on information given to me on both sides of the political spectrum.
The proble is, is that strong central movements are dying. Both sides are going to the extreme.
Libertarian-ism is growing quite rapidly actually, its just not something that is voiced in liberal outlets since despite being a moderate and more centrist movement it is slightly right leaning. The reason it is slightly right leaning is because the left has gone more to the extreme then the right, by a fair margin pushing most centrist movements to the right. Most libertarians would actually be moderate liberals, but todays moderate liberals are not moderate in the least, the scale is tipped further to the left, the very minimal extreme right tip is just a reflex reaction but its the smallest political ideology, most conservatives haven't moved much from their position and are in no way extreme or racists or bigots or uneducated.
THE GLORIOUS CENTRIST. When you say “both sides are stupid” without any further argument.
I lived in the '70s, & news was way better then than it is now. 😐
Nixon at least had the decency to resign. Trump has no conscience or decency.
You’re right. He is the first (and hopefully only) president who caused a riot in the Capital Building for not accepting the election results.
When you showed clips of the dude and he said, "And that's the way it is." reminded me of the movie Bruce Almighty and when Jim carry said in the dudes voice, "And that's the way the cookie crumbles." I kept thinking that every time you showed a clip of the guy.
3:59 nobody gonna mention that hair?
I actually thought it was a joke...