😃!! Thank you for the great video and all the kind words Splat (and from so many of you here in the comments). We're hyped to get this game out there for everyone who loves games with this kind of depth and breadth of options. Lots more content to come, and for sure lots of quality-of-life improvements like the menu rolling out in EA. You know us; the update train is just getting started! Thank you for being such a long-time part of our journey.
@ That's us! Star Traders is one of our favorite series. Very excited about the possibilities of a new Star Traders game at some point incorporating all the new skills we've used developing Cyber Knights.
For anyone wondering why he mentions harebrained schemes in the title It’s because Paradox layed off a significant portion of the staff at Harebrained during the summer, with an unconfirmed report listing it as high as 80% of the staff
Indeed, Lamplighters League was a huge commercial failure and big economic loss for Paradox. For that game specifically, I dont really know what they were going for but it looks so boring and uninspiring that it feels like the failure was clear since long back. In any case, I too was hoping for a BT2 but now its more likely the studio will be closed down entirely. Maybe the IP can move on to some other studio or developer somehow, I dunno what restrictions is put on it? Or if I can dream a little, maybe Paradox can put togehter an A-team of their Grand Strategy developers and give us a Battletech game with the genes of Crusader Kings.
@@-Markus- What are you talking about? Lamplighters League came just few days ago, and its on Game Pass. What was expected it will sell 13 million copies on steam like Cyberpunk ?! The studios are just getting stupid lately. Looking for any excuse to butcher whole teams.
I feel really bad for Harebrained. Wanted battletech 2 and still dont think any crpg had a companion storyline as good as Glory's from Shadowrun Dragonfall. Hope the devs that were laid off find good opportunities elsewhere
if they re-skinned xcom with shadowrun or rifts, it would be an awesome game...like to me, xcom has great combat mechanics that dont need to be changed (RNG is RNG is RNG). just create a new story line and bam
@@johndough7710 i appreciate the enthusiasm but i disagree. I’m sick of shadowrun being a c-rpg i want something like cyberpunk 2077 just in third person and focused on the story of a team rather than the story of an individual mercenary
I joined the crowdfunding for this game purely because of who is making it. They have the reputation for supporting their games long after release with quality updates and additions.
I completely forgot they were working on this game! I played the hell out of their original Cyber Knights game on Mobile, and was super hyped when I heard they were working on this one. Thanks for covering this, and reminding me about it!
Outstanding. I have bought several of their games over the years. This looks and (seems to) feel great. As a veteran tabletop gamer, who played ~60% of the best of the TTRPG and PC game 'new hotness' starting in the 80s and well into the 2010s, this looks tasty! I played a metric fuq-ton of Cyberpunk and Shadowrun TT during that period and this is making my black-tec implants tingle. Heading over to check it out now... Thanks, as always, Splatcat. You are *definitely* part of my tribe and you are valued and appreciated for your general awesomeness, keen insight, and fuqed-up humor.
I'm digging this game. Like the cyberpunk feel and I enjoy having turn based lower powered required game that I can have on both my main pc and my less stellar laptop. This game is perfect for that.
And the setting was an interesting twist on Dune lore, that was the main selling point for ST:F for me, the world that was underneath it all and the way it all moved around you, so even if the story and its gameplay were pretty 'chosen one'-ish in nature, it still made you feel like a cog in the machine. It made the moments when you and your crew actually were the only ones able to do something hit that much better.
Points in their favor : - They have an official wiki created, which I think shows how they value doing things properly. - They have opened a mods Steam Workshop in the past in response to popular demand.
@@robertnomok9750 I am a bit confused by your comment. The first sentence seems to imply what I noted is not real, but it is (i.e. I encourage game designers to create official wiki as they did here, and they did add a Steam Workshop in response to popular demand). Your second sentence adds a good point also in their favor.
Absolutely loved Star Traders so I backed this on kickstarter, most likely won't dive too deeply into it during early access but will be spending lots of time on it as it gets close to release.
I still remember when my cohost and I bumped into the Tresebros room at PAX East 2020 when they first showed this off. As soon as I got done chatting about the game with y'all, I pulled out my phone, and backed the kickstarter :) I've been wanting a game like this...forever. I couldn't imagine another dev team behind something this awesome. The rate of additions and all the stuff you've added since this video was posted is incredible to me. Thanks @TreseBrothersGames!
I feel like the whole Cyberpunk genre is fairly well-represented, but I miss the magic. That's the one thing that always made Shadowrun stand out from something like the Cyberpunk universe. Magic, spirits, weird creatures, strange races, all as a kind of counterbalance to the heavy tech and consumer dystopia. Still, this looks great, and I'm sure I'll check it out.
So it's like if the Solasta artists made a Shadowrun game. Not necessarily a bad thing but needs the gurpy back chatter between the characters in the cut scenes.
Looks very inspired by New X-Com, especially the base section. Love the call back to TB, what a true master of the craft of game critique. RIP to a real one, miss him dearly. Love the vid Splat, keep on being awesome
Their old mobile game "Cyber Knights Elite" is one of the better cyberpunk mobile RPGs. Gave me serious "SNES Shadowrun" feels when I was playing it back in the day. It's weird for me to see mobile games on a PC, but in this instance I'm down with it. I originally got started watching Splattercat back when he was playing the tabletop Shadowrun with Aavak and Steejo and all them. Good times.
Been waiting for this for a while. Looks interesting, with the more granular XCom style movement, XCom 2 base, and GO FENNIANS!!!... sorry, played way too much Cyberknights and got carried away there...😁
I may be wrong, but rolling for initiative all the time seems like a pain, the game looks interesting though. I hope we start seeing more cyberpunk styled games like this from the industry as a whole
Manipulating the initiative is an important part of the tactics in this game. You have ways to increase your initiative and decrease the guards' initiative. imho from a year in the alpha test.
I love tres Brothers. They're like the David A. Prior of hanged. David would famously watch movies, get inspired and then make his own version. Deadly Prey is like bad (but hilariously so) First Blood. It's like the Tres Brithers wanted to do Warhammer or Shadowrun but didn't want to secure licensing and with their own spin. They're very dedicated devs.
Their games are all based on their own homebrewed tabletop rules. Each game series have their own distinct lore and history that melds a lot of influences together, just like other IPs do. I recommend trying their games out. Have a great day.
Yes, you can go hot, if you want. But this is Cyberpunk. You got hot, you go dead. Keep stealth as long as you possibly can, but keep formations to be able to go hot when you have to. And yes, in Cyberpunk and Shadowrun, the GM sets things up that no job will ever go smooth. If it's a Milk Run, renew your DocWagon contract and bring extra ammo.
Here to support the devs because Star Traders Frontiers, their last, is an incredibly polished gem that gave me dozens of hours of gameplay and enjoyment. Bought this game without even reading the description.
Stealth games try to give the player leeway and tools. A stealth game where the AI has too much awareness would be too hard for most people. The guards can have a reaction time, like they take a turn to react to something they saw. And if they see a glimpse of something, it builds up a general awareness instead of leading to an instant shootout. I don't like it when it's too dumbed down either, like when guards resume their patrols and calm down, or when you can run past the nose of a guard or wave a gun in front of a camera with a slap on the wrist. A more hardcore choice could be that guards escalate slowly, but once they're at a certain level they don't step down. I don't know if these guys have hearing. Sometimes the guards are given a hearing bubble in addition to their vision cone. They might not see a robot with a gun, but they hear and turn around if it shoots. Then you can give the player options for staying silent. Sometimes a dude would try to get you with a crossbow in Shadowrun because it was even more quiet than a silenced pistol. The mission prep sounds fun. It sounds like you can send Hackerman there to figure out security systems in advance.
I've had this game for a while. Now, I'm taking a break from Phoenix Point (and the incredible Terror from the Void mod) to see how this plays in its current state. I hope this can hold my interest for 1000+ hours like the XCOMs and Phoenix Point have done.
It's a crying shame about Harebrained. I loved all their output, regardless of the flaws others noticed that I actually didn't mind while playing. They were faithful to the IPs they worked with and since BT and SR are some of my favorites, I'm really sad to see Harebrained go...
Bro I MISS your shadowrun walkthroughs! Those were good times! Imwould get done with classes or work and come home and watch them. My girlfriend (now wifey) would make fun of me.
Huh, not bad. Sure the character art is meh but the rest of it looks good. Only thing I'm really not a favour of is the JTBS HP style in the 100s. I prefer like 6 pips of HP so you can plan better.
😃!! Thank you for the great video and all the kind words Splat (and from so many of you here in the comments). We're hyped to get this game out there for everyone who loves games with this kind of depth and breadth of options. Lots more content to come, and for sure lots of quality-of-life improvements like the menu rolling out in EA. You know us; the update train is just getting started! Thank you for being such a long-time part of our journey.
This looks dope! I've always enjoyed the stuff you guys make and am very happy to see a new Cyber Knights. Keep it coming!!!
Are u the guys wich once created StarTrader, right ? I played that around 2008 on Mobile.
@tresebrothersgames Love your guys games and have had them on every phone I've owned since Age of Pirates. Keep up the great work.
@@TheOneLoneTree Thank you very much!
@ That's us! Star Traders is one of our favorite series. Very excited about the possibilities of a new Star Traders game at some point incorporating all the new skills we've used developing Cyber Knights.
For anyone wondering why he mentions harebrained schemes in the title
It’s because Paradox layed off a significant portion of the staff at Harebrained during the summer, with an unconfirmed report listing it as high as 80% of the staff
Oof, really sad to hear that. The Shadowruns were good, especially Dragonfall.
What!!? Jeez! And I thought Paradox buying them was a good thing.
What a bummer for Hairbrained. :(((((
That's mad. HBS is an awesome game studio.
Indeed, Lamplighters League was a huge commercial failure and big economic loss for Paradox. For that game specifically, I dont really know what they were going for but it looks so boring and uninspiring that it feels like the failure was clear since long back.
In any case, I too was hoping for a BT2 but now its more likely the studio will be closed down entirely. Maybe the IP can move on to some other studio or developer somehow, I dunno what restrictions is put on it?
Or if I can dream a little, maybe Paradox can put togehter an A-team of their Grand Strategy developers and give us a Battletech game with the genes of Crusader Kings.
@@-Markus- What are you talking about? Lamplighters League came just few days ago, and its on Game Pass. What was expected it will sell 13 million copies on steam like Cyberpunk ?!
The studios are just getting stupid lately. Looking for any excuse to butcher whole teams.
I feel really bad for Harebrained. Wanted battletech 2 and still dont think any crpg had a companion storyline as good as Glory's from Shadowrun Dragonfall. Hope the devs that were laid off find good opportunities elsewhere
I didnt even know HBS was done. Battletech is my go to game and has been for ages. 1000+ hours played with the Roguetech mod.
I want nothing more than battletech 2 :/
They did a really good job with BattleTech. And that's something us BattleTech fans don't get to say a lot.
Yeah they will man or do there own thing
What happened?
Shadowrun theme with an Xcom mechanics. Base clean up and everything. I generally appreciate Trese brothers take on things.
Love the developers, really support their games. Star Traders Frontiers, their last game, had at least 200 updates!
Out of all the pen and paper rpgs that I’ve played, which are many, shadowrun has my favorite setting. We need a mass effect style shadowrun game.
if they re-skinned xcom with shadowrun or rifts, it would be an awesome game...like to me, xcom has great combat mechanics that dont need to be changed (RNG is RNG is RNG). just create a new story line and bam
@@johndough7710 i appreciate the enthusiasm but i disagree. I’m sick of shadowrun being a c-rpg i want something like cyberpunk 2077 just in third person and focused on the story of a team rather than the story of an individual mercenary
Yes, yes, a hundred times yes.
I joined the crowdfunding for this game purely because of who is making it. They have the reputation for supporting their games long after release with quality updates and additions.
I completely forgot they were working on this game! I played the hell out of their original Cyber Knights game on Mobile, and was super hyped when I heard they were working on this one. Thanks for covering this, and reminding me about it!
A new Trese Brothers tactical game? Awesome! I am a big fan of theirs since i randomly stumbled upon Templar Battleforce years ago!
Outstanding. I have bought several of their games over the years. This looks and (seems to) feel great. As a veteran tabletop gamer, who played ~60% of the best of the TTRPG and PC game 'new hotness' starting in the 80s and well into the 2010s, this looks tasty! I played a metric fuq-ton of Cyberpunk and Shadowrun TT during that period and this is making my black-tec implants tingle. Heading over to check it out now...
Thanks, as always, Splatcat. You are *definitely* part of my tribe and you are valued and appreciated for your general awesomeness, keen insight, and fuqed-up humor.
I'm digging this game. Like the cyberpunk feel and I enjoy having turn based lower powered required game that I can have on both my main pc and my less stellar laptop. This game is perfect for that.
13:30 😂 That was a spooky good Milton.
Shadowrun was may absolute fav RPG in high school. The games have never QUITE done it justice.
A lot of the mechanics in Star Traders Frontiers were based on Shadowrun too.
And the setting was an interesting twist on Dune lore, that was the main selling point for ST:F for me, the world that was underneath it all and the way it all moved around you, so even if the story and its gameplay were pretty 'chosen one'-ish in nature, it still made you feel like a cog in the machine. It made the moments when you and your crew actually were the only ones able to do something hit that much better.
Bro you are the closest to a "New Totalbiscuit" that I've found since his farewell.
Points in their favor :
- They have an official wiki created, which I think shows how they value doing things properly.
- They have opened a mods Steam Workshop in the past in response to popular demand.
How about real ones? Last game had 100+ major updates.
@@robertnomok9750 I am a bit confused by your comment. The first sentence seems to imply what I noted is not real, but it is (i.e. I encourage game designers to create official wiki as they did here, and they did add a Steam Workshop in response to popular demand). Your second sentence adds a good point also in their favor.
Absolutely loved Star Traders so I backed this on kickstarter, most likely won't dive too deeply into it during early access but will be spending lots of time on it as it gets close to release.
I still remember when my cohost and I bumped into the Tresebros room at PAX East 2020 when they first showed this off. As soon as I got done chatting about the game with y'all, I pulled out my phone, and backed the kickstarter :) I've been wanting a game like this...forever. I couldn't imagine another dev team behind something this awesome. The rate of additions and all the stuff you've added since this video was posted is incredible to me. Thanks @TreseBrothersGames!
Thank you Al! Really appreciate you being a backer; couldn't have gotten this far without that Kickstarter support.
Big fan of Trese Brothers. I still play ST:Frontiers and have had this whishlisted since I got a PC. Can't wait to see how this grows.
I feel like the whole Cyberpunk genre is fairly well-represented, but I miss the magic. That's the one thing that always made Shadowrun stand out from something like the Cyberpunk universe. Magic, spirits, weird creatures, strange races, all as a kind of counterbalance to the heavy tech and consumer dystopia.
Still, this looks great, and I'm sure I'll check it out.
Trese brothers are really good developers. They never stop updating their games even if it's too old.
Was waiting for this without much chill. Pretty hyped for a new Trese Bros game.
Been looking forward to this one. Trese Bros have been good dudes.
I actually love Cyber Knights for the phones. I play it until this day.
Great video! This game is one of our co-organizer's.
Investing in silenced weapons looks like a good plan.
You had me laughing so hard with the office space voice work on the extraction like I couldnt breathe. But have you seen my stapler?
I played the phone version for hundreds of hours. I'm glad they are making this fully fledged game now.
So it's like if the Solasta artists made a Shadowrun game. Not necessarily a bad thing but needs the gurpy back chatter between the characters in the cut scenes.
Yea. It looks very junky
I enjoyed Solasta but the sub-standard presentation definitely soured it for me a bit.
Looks very inspired by New X-Com, especially the base section. Love the call back to TB, what a true master of the craft of game critique. RIP to a real one, miss him dearly. Love the vid Splat, keep on being awesome
Splatty touching a picture of the extraction zone like Wolverine would.
Their old mobile game "Cyber Knights Elite" is one of the better cyberpunk mobile RPGs. Gave me serious "SNES Shadowrun" feels when I was playing it back in the day. It's weird for me to see mobile games on a PC, but in this instance I'm down with it. I originally got started watching Splattercat back when he was playing the tabletop Shadowrun with Aavak and Steejo and all them. Good times.
Been waiting for this for a while. Looks interesting, with the more granular XCom style movement, XCom 2 base, and GO FENNIANS!!!... sorry, played way too much Cyberknights and got carried away there...😁
I love this man reminds me a bit of satellite reign
GGs and thanks for the review, Splatt!
Shadowrun Milton is a thing I never knew we needed til now.
Infiltrate Lumbergh's office to get your stapler back, bonus if you steal the TPS reports, sounds like a good session
It is looking so cool!
Glad that trese brothers are making another banger.
I am liking the look and feel of this one. Thanks for covering it.
Worth the watch for the Milton impression alone! 😂
A TRS-80 interface is indeed really old !
This one looks like it might be hard for me personally, but still really interesting. Thanks for showing it.
[Pours one out for HBS]
Added to Wish List. Loved all the Shadow run and of course Xcom/2/Wotc games. :)
Oh no, what happened to Harebrained? I was holding out for more from them.
Paradox fired 80% of their staff in July and now their latest release (Lamplighters League) was a financial failure, so the studio is likely dead.
Man...
HBS and PDX have separated. HBS will be independent come Jan 1st 2024.
Nope you don't get to leave and you don't get to keep your personal stapler, okaaaay? :D Awesoje coverage as all ways splatt
Thanks for showcasing! ^^
Lots of good ideas here
I may be wrong, but rolling for initiative all the time seems like a pain, the game looks interesting though. I hope we start seeing more cyberpunk styled games like this from the industry as a whole
Manipulating the initiative is an important part of the tactics in this game. You have ways to increase your initiative and decrease the guards' initiative. imho from a year in the alpha test.
Havent heard this one before so im excited to see what the heck is going on. Looks kinda cyberpunk from the title
I love tres Brothers. They're like the David A. Prior of hanged. David would famously watch movies, get inspired and then make his own version. Deadly Prey is like bad (but hilariously so) First Blood. It's like the Tres Brithers wanted to do Warhammer or Shadowrun but didn't want to secure licensing and with their own spin. They're very dedicated devs.
This is one of the most savage comparisons I've ever read lmao.
Their games are all based on their own homebrewed tabletop rules. Each game series have their own distinct lore and history that melds a lot of influences together, just like other IPs do. I recommend trying their games out. Have a great day.
@@LordofSyn I own all their games. I say all this with love.
@@pacer2310
🫡 Væ Victis, Cap'n!
When Splat said, "the gate is down", did anyone else immediately think of Ender's Game?
I knew I recognised the name! I've played so much Cyber Knights and Star Trader on my phone :ooo
Yes, you can go hot, if you want. But this is Cyberpunk. You got hot, you go dead. Keep stealth as long as you possibly can, but keep formations to be able to go hot when you have to.
And yes, in Cyberpunk and Shadowrun, the GM sets things up that no job will ever go smooth. If it's a Milk Run, renew your DocWagon contract and bring extra ammo.
Dade: Hack the planet!
Ears went up like a cat hearing a can opener when i heard Silent Storm.
Hah! Love the Office Space Milton references.
"Night time stroll ?" Silly girl, all Shadowrunners know there is no such a thing as a milk run ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
Snes shadowrun was the most ahead of it's time game
Cheers Splat! 🍻😎🌴
Here to support the devs because Star Traders Frontiers, their last, is an incredibly polished gem that gave me dozens of hours of gameplay and enjoyment. Bought this game without even reading the description.
13:23 - wants stapler back
Oh interesting, Invisible Inc meets New XCOM meets Shadowrun Returns?
ROFL stapler guy reference! LOVE IT!@!
Thanks for the video.
As an ex-runner myself i'm down for this.
Stealth games try to give the player leeway and tools. A stealth game where the AI has too much awareness would be too hard for most people. The guards can have a reaction time, like they take a turn to react to something they saw. And if they see a glimpse of something, it builds up a general awareness instead of leading to an instant shootout.
I don't like it when it's too dumbed down either, like when guards resume their patrols and calm down, or when you can run past the nose of a guard or wave a gun in front of a camera with a slap on the wrist. A more hardcore choice could be that guards escalate slowly, but once they're at a certain level they don't step down.
I don't know if these guys have hearing. Sometimes the guards are given a hearing bubble in addition to their vision cone. They might not see a robot with a gun, but they hear and turn around if it shoots. Then you can give the player options for staying silent. Sometimes a dude would try to get you with a crossbow in Shadowrun because it was even more quiet than a silenced pistol.
The mission prep sounds fun. It sounds like you can send Hackerman there to figure out security systems in advance.
they react to sound
I've had this game for a while. Now, I'm taking a break from Phoenix Point (and the incredible Terror from the Void mod) to see how this plays in its current state. I hope this can hold my interest for 1000+ hours like the XCOMs and Phoenix Point have done.
Oh dang, I've been a big fan of Star Traders Frontiers, a cyberpunk game from Trese is extremely my shit.
for a second there I really thought Splat was making a vide on Cyberpunk 2077
Played the demo, was pretty fun
Cyberpunk silent storm?
Sign me in!
This looks pretty good.
7:22
Yes, the guards and security AI do take into account bodies.
So Shadowrun Returns but minus fantasy creature.
Hell yeah
I want this one.
splat make the platoon attak
Looks pretty cool.
It's a crying shame about Harebrained. I loved all their output, regardless of the flaws others noticed that I actually didn't mind while playing. They were faithful to the IPs they worked with and since BT and SR are some of my favorites, I'm really sad to see Harebrained go...
ThankYou SirSpla77
Cyberpunk Xcom? FSCK YEAHHHHH!!!
I would like to see shadowrun with a bigger budget, that is, visually and gameplay close to something like this.
I love their previous title but the art on this one hurts my eyes. I played the demo and I hope they can polish the graphics by the time it launches.
if we had magic, orks, elves and dragons we would have Shadowrun. :)
Man you made me want to install Silent Storm again.
hmm looks very shadowrun, so I am interested. I might wait till it's a bit longer in early access but looks promising
Bro I MISS your shadowrun walkthroughs! Those were good times! Imwould get done with classes or work and come home and watch them. My girlfriend (now wifey) would make fun of me.
Now if only the devs could get their hands on a shadowrub licence from Microsoft
Wait, what do you mean "Harebrained Schemes is Toast"? They *just* released a new game?
Didn't do so good they lost alot of ppl
Last awful game no one wanted or asked for.
Oh no! What happend to Harebrained? Loved their engagement in Battletech, was hoping for more.
Have you seen my stapler?
My biggest fear is that it's going to take another 20 years before we get another Shadowrun game and I may not even be around for it.
shadowcom
xrun
U mean Cory and his Brother ? Played there MobileGames way back in, guess around 2008…StarTrader was the game so far I remember.
Man, I would kill for a new ShadowRun game v_v
I kickestarted this game back in like 2015 or 2016 or something. I liked the Demo - but really want to see the other systems.
Algorithm statement.
Huh, not bad. Sure the character art is meh but the rest of it looks good. Only thing I'm really not a favour of is the JTBS HP style in the 100s. I prefer like 6 pips of HP so you can plan better.
Shout out to Silent Storm, game was a bit janky but also a fun time, especially with destructible environments.
W-well, O-Ok, But that's the last straw.
Since your down here, it would be really great if you could just sort of.. take care of the cockroach problem weve been having in here.