The Chinese Economy in the Next 30 Years: Political Reform vs. Status Quo?

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  • What's in the future for China? China has transformed from a closed-door society to a prosperous and progressive one in the past 40 years. Pragmatism and pro-growth policies in the reform era centered mostly on people's lives and building a nation with a modern economic system. With China at the threshold of entering the middle-income stage, how will the nation advance further in the coming decades? In light of sharply rising geopolitical challenges on the global stage and the declining prospect of consistent moderate expansion on the domestic front, how the new generation of Chinese leadership tackles these challenges-if they choose to do so-via social transformation and political reform will be critical. Through the lenses of scholars, business executives, and government officials, this panel will discuss the likely approaches the Chinese leadership will take to answer to the current challenges and opportunity. Along the discussion, the panel will touch upon the importance of foreign firms and capital in the future of China's success.
    www.milkeninstitute.org/
    Moderator
    Sheryl WuDunn
    Co-Founder, FullSky Partners; Co-Author, "China Wakes" and "A Path Appears"
    Speakers
    Nicholas Lardy
    Anthony M. Solomon Senior Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics; Author, "The State Strikes Back: The End of Economic Reform in China?"
    Michael Pillsbury
    Director, Center on Chinese Strategy, Hudson Institute; Author, "The Hundred-Year Marathon"
    Sophie Richardson
    China Director, Asia Division, Human Rights Watch
    Stephen Roach
    Senior Fellow, Jackson Institute for Global Affairs, Yale University
    Perry Wong
    Managing Director, Research, Milken Institute
    #China #ChineseEconomy #GlobalEconomy

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      @angelicstennett Před 9 měsíci

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  • @omkazn
    @omkazn Před 2 lety +66

    Love that this panel includes no actual Chinese economist or representative but only westerners, am sure it will be insightful.

    • @jasonke5061
      @jasonke5061 Před 2 lety +8

      I really like your good sense of sarcasm. haha

    • @Amaking10000
      @Amaking10000 Před 2 lety +8

      Americans love to hear their own voices apparently.

    • @mhtanster
      @mhtanster Před 2 lety +1

      👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣

    • @mpo2476
      @mpo2476 Před 2 lety

      +100 social credit points

    • @slobodanpaunovic3834
      @slobodanpaunovic3834 Před 2 lety

      Propaganda at high level by these crooks..

  • @samliew6610
    @samliew6610 Před 4 lety +140

    Credit should be given to China for their achievements and great efforts in lifting 800+ million out of poverty in just about 30 years. Truly a commendable feat.

    • @rogermai1931
      @rogermai1931 Před 3 lety +2

      This is what President is trying to do for all Americans. But not like China that steal and over power weaker countries. Trump put China in its place. Biden will fall to China. He is a crooked person.

    • @yodatagz
      @yodatagz Před 3 lety +5

      2020 look how many million people China is put into poverty🦠

    • @vonbie6354
      @vonbie6354 Před 3 lety +6

      @@yodatagz How many?

    • @vonbie6354
      @vonbie6354 Před 3 lety +6

      @@rogermai1931 exactly what did china steal from what weaker countries?

    • @yodatagz
      @yodatagz Před 3 lety +2

      @@vonbie6354 have you been hiding under a rock for 2020?

  • @barneyut
    @barneyut Před 4 lety +187

    Sophies statement that the Chinese on the BRI intend to do business on their terms is nonsense as no one is being forced to do business with them, of course they can wait for the US to undertake some initiative on World infrastructure except that the US has given up on trying to build a few miles of high speed rail in California after 15 years of massive cost overruns and various other problems. It would take the US system about 1,000 years to build what the Chinese have built in 40 years. Plus the US would build a military base every 500 miles along its constructed highway, the existing 900+ military bases would not be enough.

  • @jingcaoyu
    @jingcaoyu Před 3 lety +84

    I always wonder whether US wants to grow China's economy or defeat it. On one hand, when they talk about the rapid growth of China, they will say it is a threat that US needs to stop. On the other hand, when talking about human rights they always say that China's economy will fail without political reform. Then why don't they simply silently watch China fail without always attacking China on human rights.

    • @azimkhan4805
      @azimkhan4805 Před 2 lety

      By human right do you putting an entire state of 30 million under military rule and shutdown mobile internet and throw the state govt and putting arm force at every door step?

    • @alanclw6024
      @alanclw6024 Před 2 lety +3

      @@azimkhan4805 which state?

    • @bonghoichan7010
      @bonghoichan7010 Před 2 lety +2

      👍❤🇨🇳

    • @angelahang6941
      @angelahang6941 Před 2 lety +5

      You need to learn from what they did successfully, not from what they ask you to do. People are hypocrites, especially as a group of people.

    • @laichuonkui69
      @laichuonkui69 Před 2 lety +1

      He doesn't know where China is la.

  • @2222dreamcatcher
    @2222dreamcatcher Před 2 lety +22

    No wonder America has always underestimated China, in the "smart" panel, only Steven Roach knows what he is talking on China.

  • @cmartinmnl
    @cmartinmnl Před 3 lety +24

    Majority of panelist still lives in a world of denial!

  • @ramonching7772
    @ramonching7772 Před 3 lety +29

    Sophie is the perfect example of a US military industrial complex representative. She thrives in negativity, conflict, intrigue.

    • @accountantthe3394
      @accountantthe3394 Před rokem

      Back here in 2022 to say even with Covid, China is still doing better than the west. The entire panel is just cope that Chinese will *never* adopt the garbage liberal ideals of the west. They know better.

  • @barrymak431
    @barrymak431 Před 4 lety +100

    Mr. Stephen Roach is a honest man 👍👍👍

  • @yuenkuen4698
    @yuenkuen4698 Před 4 lety +42

    Impression after watching:
    Stephen Roach would be the only person in this panel that belongs to an older generation of American Gentlemen that was brought up with the Old-World-American spirit that almost no longer exists today, as can be heard from his balanced, well researched, unbias viewpoints.
    His worlds seems to me the only person without an predetermined angle/agenda.
    Nicholas Lardy would be the only other panelist that's straight on the data-statistic without "double-guessing" and holding double standards.

  • @shihtzuview7186
    @shihtzuview7186 Před 4 lety +128

    Human Right Watch lady is disguising, glad Stephen Roach slapped her face with honesty.

    • @shihtzuview7186
      @shihtzuview7186 Před 4 lety +15

      @grimm reaper , CIA, to be specific.

    • @wallylee8470
      @wallylee8470 Před 3 lety +7

      She is extremely ignorant.

    • @jingcaoyu
      @jingcaoyu Před 3 lety +1

      That was really a question asked in a good way.

  • @hansb.8
    @hansb.8 Před 4 lety +80

    Mrs Richardson should have samples about her accusations that China works below standard to develop the new Silk and Belt Roads. We in Fiji are not part of that Project but the Roads the Chinese have build here are top quality only.

    • @chuckiechakraverty7629
      @chuckiechakraverty7629 Před 4 lety +7

      Hans..its hasnt started yet...it will soon..look at sri lanka..they r regretting selling their port to china

    • @hansb.8
      @hansb.8 Před 4 lety +1

      @@chuckiechakraverty7629 Die Entwicklung von Haefen als Infrastruktur fuer den neuen Silk Belt wird Sri Lanka Wohlstand bringen. Der wirtschaftliche Erfolg braucht halt etwas laenger als nur Waffen in die Welt zuverkaufen und Kriege zu schueren, ala USA !!!! Gilt auch fuer West Afrika und die West Kueste Suedamerikas, wo China auch sehr aktiv ist.

    • @gilberttolosa7694
      @gilberttolosa7694 Před 3 lety +3

      You’ll wake up one day China owns you or probably already did. Don’t be fooled by them.

    • @TheRaptor22f
      @TheRaptor22f Před 3 lety +1

      Fiji is part of China! Fiji is indebtedness.

    • @hansb.8
      @hansb.8 Před 3 lety +9

      @@TheRaptor22f LOL, Most Roads are Friendship projects, no repayment required. The EU also pumps plenty money in all South Pacific Islands and Fiji collects major shares of that. Plenty other NGO's also receive money from the outside. All those assistance make Fiji a great Place to be.

  • @JJ-sz2il
    @JJ-sz2il Před 4 lety +137

    Some people are just pretending to be China expert to sell lots of books.

    • @gordonsek
      @gordonsek Před 4 lety +6

      You are right as their research and study based on Judeo Christian perspectives is not accurate.

    • @apersonfromtheinternet3444
      @apersonfromtheinternet3444 Před 4 lety

      Gordon Sek I agree.

    • @sensey07
      @sensey07 Před 4 lety +2

      Like the Trump flunkie from the rightwing Hudson Institute

    • @jerryyoung639
      @jerryyoung639 Před 3 lety +4

      yep,but they know nothing about China.they just want to cheat western people. I am a Chinese.

    • @None-do2qn
      @None-do2qn Před 3 lety

      @@planwoods it’s about economy not politics

  • @patwhall
    @patwhall Před 4 lety +124

    Is this about China economy or China politics? I am not sure if you are just trying to trash China or objectively understand China's economy. It looks to me you want to do the former.
    Actual experts:
    1. Nick,
    Sheryl has repeatedly asked you questions on China's rising debt, you apparently didn't give her the right answer. Can you oblige and tell her, yes, debt in China is out of control and it's way more than 300%? That's what her audience wants to hear, not the truth. But I applaud you for providing the fact.
    2. Stephen,
    Thank you for highlighting that we are not saving enough and tell the truth as it is.
    Pretender:
    1. Perry Wong,
    Stop dancing around the question, it's about the industrial prowess, not about policy. Ahh, I see, another Hong Kong dissident pretending to be China expert, no wonder. We can sense the bitterness from your unbiased statement.
    What are you doing here?
    1. Sophie,
    You are the missing piece, if all the experts are saying great thing about China economy, at least we have you here to trash China's human right record.

  • @chiachingtung2157
    @chiachingtung2157 Před 2 lety +12

    Only Stephen Roach's words are worth listen to...
    If Michael Milken can only give out this level of discussion on China, America will lose to itself, not China.

    • @angelahang6941
      @angelahang6941 Před 2 lety

      If you compare how much an average Chinese knows about US and how much an average American knows about China, it is a lost cause to US. If US higher level of officials still take a condescending attitude when interacting with China, it will not work any more and the China-US relationship will keep stagnant and go nowhere.

    • @chiachingtung2157
      @chiachingtung2157 Před 2 lety

      @@angelahang6941 hey, China people don't need to know too much about America because the centralized government makes decisions for everything. However, Americans need to know much more because "one person one vote"

  • @peterroberts2952
    @peterroberts2952 Před 3 lety +28

    Quick decisions. Central planning. Quick fixing of mistakes - China ❤️👌🏾

    • @wilsonslim1
      @wilsonslim1 Před 3 lety +1

      You’re the most annoying

    • @wilsonslim1
      @wilsonslim1 Před 3 lety

      The

    • @Kuasarakyat2
      @Kuasarakyat2 Před 3 lety +1

      Peter, you hit the nail onto the head

    • @anEyePhil
      @anEyePhil Před 3 lety +2

      No inconvenient democratic elections, just like the old days of the Emperors.

    • @johnsinclair4621
      @johnsinclair4621 Před rokem

      @@anEyePhil Like elections actually mean anything in the US😂

  • @AlphaDuck1990
    @AlphaDuck1990 Před 4 lety +267

    Have lady Sophia ever come to Xin Jiang China to look around by herself, or just caring about the people's human rights by sitting in the office and searching on the Internet.

    • @cz5978
      @cz5978 Před 4 lety +28

      Seriously if there are one million people in prison we will see concentration camp photos all over the internet unless of cause those high rises in China are part of the concentration camps.

    • @hanw544
      @hanw544 Před 4 lety +56

      The US never worry about human rights in the middle east, because before people's human rights, they had been dead

    • @yuchenyang1708
      @yuchenyang1708 Před 4 lety +16

      Clearly She’s in her own world

    • @tsbm9
      @tsbm9 Před 4 lety +2

      many reporters have gone to xinjiang ( some under cover ) and whatever they could see, they see fear in the eyes of the uyghurs, they hear the sound of silence, and a potemkin village.

    • @Vito5107
      @Vito5107 Před 4 lety +10

      John Malcolm I give you evidence on what US military is doing on a specific island without respecting US law. The law is decided by a military commission! Just look in front of your house door!

  • @vittyli4742
    @vittyli4742 Před 4 lety +30

    Love Stephen! He tells the truth about China!

  • @grxciez3060
    @grxciez3060 Před 4 lety +28

    Americans lost the confidence they had before. We cant see others doing better than us. So we bashing China or any other countries to cover our incompetence. USA are truly declining,

    • @anjodelosreyes9951
      @anjodelosreyes9951 Před 3 lety

      Well China is the new bully, and is the current bully in the south east asia, and with India. I'm missing the old bully. :-)

    • @tm-mv5ql
      @tm-mv5ql Před 3 lety +4

      @@anjodelosreyes9951 have u ever notice that India is the bully in South Asia? Do u have even one friendly neighbor? Your country attack China 3 months ago for covering severe convid19 inside India.

    • @keithtan9057
      @keithtan9057 Před 3 lety +2

      First ussr, then japan, then russia, now china

    • @roro4787
      @roro4787 Před 3 lety +1

      @@anjodelosreyes9951 as an Indian I see that our people and media overreact if you see government's position on China it's not really hard pressing. Because I an Indian I admire the development of China so is our government. I hope we become friendly countries. There is a lot common between us than a piece of border land

  • @ph1688
    @ph1688 Před 4 lety +12

    *I'm glad to see Stephen Roach here again where he is always standing for the right, not just superior smart but generous, righteous as well as higher character and a morality scholar. (( everyone else pretends & laughs at a false positive ))*
    *I loved his slogan " I'm not going near that place ( white house's oval office ) ! " Let's praying and God blessing him...all the best.*

  • @paulzhang0518
    @paulzhang0518 Před 4 lety +47

    as a Chinese guy, when saw through this video, I found there are so many misunderstanding about china, I really dispointing, I mean really! Maybe the same misunderstanding about america exist among our chinese people too , so this is what really make me worry about the future between china and america.

    • @LaRoucheisright
      @LaRoucheisright Před 4 lety +8

      xuy lee you are so generous to call them "misunderstandings" this panel is designed to promote misunderstandings

    • @user-qp4jr7pt6z
      @user-qp4jr7pt6z Před 4 lety +6

      No worries ,i always watch this kind video for fun.

    • @colinjohnson8106
      @colinjohnson8106 Před 3 lety +3

      Well said.
      There is so much misunderstanding.

    • @Anthony-fz4cl
      @Anthony-fz4cl Před 3 lety +3

      Misunderstanding is very polite. It is the European way of thinking, then when it is done to them they will tell you you are being political.

    • @sarayel
      @sarayel Před 3 lety +5

      @@Anthony-fz4cl Yeah. West fundamentally don't understand. West doesn't look much into history more than let's say around 60 years, they think history has ended. West plans are as long as 5 years. and China looks at the world on the Civilisation level. That's kind of bad for me as I'm kind of from the west.

  • @chfgbp6098
    @chfgbp6098 Před 4 lety +34

    Human rights? What about These?
    Country PrisonPoP. per 100,000
    US 2,193,798. 737
    CHINA 1,548,498. 118
    RUSSIA 874,161. 615
    BRAZIL 371,482. 193
    INDIA 332,112. 30
    1949: US population=150mil, Life Exp=mid 60s. China population=450 mil, Life Exp=mid 30s
    Now: China pop=1400 mil, Life Exp=mid 70s, with longer healthy life span than US (WHO report). Infant mortatliy dropped from 240/1000 to 8/1000 in the Same period. Literacy rate also now almost 100% from 20% in 1949.

    • @antediluvianclockwork9769
      @antediluvianclockwork9769 Před 4 lety

      Data can be skewed!

    • @gofy9990
      @gofy9990 Před 4 lety

      @@antediluvianclockwork9769 What can't be skewed? What you will believe?

    • @gofy9990
      @gofy9990 Před 4 lety +2

      @@mackab5179 Read several piece of news doesn't mean you hold the truth and facts.

    • @chfgbp6098
      @chfgbp6098 Před 4 lety

      @@gofy9990 : well done. U ve succeeded in insulating yourself from facts. Knew u could do it. Concentration Camps, genocide, live Organ harvesting. Chicom suppsoedly has been doing it for 70 years...they r not very good AT being evil, r they? I mean any half decent evil nazi dictatorship would have finished the job a Long time ago.

    • @chfgbp6098
      @chfgbp6098 Před 4 lety

      @@antediluvianclockwork9769 yes. Absolutely. That s why u need to See a wide range of metrics and and get them from a wide range of sources. Please dispute those numbers. These are Western sources numbers. I dont trust chicom either. But when lots and lots of things paint a consistent picture that goes against consensus narrative, the least one can do IS to the reexmin one's precious assumptions.

  • @sagenose1082
    @sagenose1082 Před 3 lety +20

    50:33 Valid points on Saudi. Hypocrisy is rife.

  • @kimmeelee9758
    @kimmeelee9758 Před 2 lety +15

    Hats off to Stephen Roach who was the only one on stage to present the truth about China, countering the waves of false allegations and anti-China propaganda by the rest of the panelists who obviously harbor a sense of superiority over the Chinese, despite all of China's impressive, proven accomplishments.

  • @midea2012
    @midea2012 Před 4 lety +14

    Discuss China's economic future based on US interest (also have to comply with the US standard)... that really is a mind-opening discussion.

    • @angelahang6941
      @angelahang6941 Před 2 lety +1

      Funny part is, US doesn’t comply their standards at all. They can bend the rules whenever needed and ask others to comply whatever. US keeps saying they are rule-based but let’s determine what rules they want to set or comply first.

  • @yidongskitchen360
    @yidongskitchen360 Před 4 lety +273

    I am always courious why most of these forums do not invite experts from China to talk about China lol

    • @zootsoot2006
      @zootsoot2006 Před 4 lety +19

      What experts?

    • @victorx1731
      @victorx1731 Před 4 lety +25

      @@zootsoot2006 Wow, you are impressive. Your cave must be beautiful.

    • @victorx1731
      @victorx1731 Před 4 lety +18

      @jwang604 Evidence of sterotype. Epic. LMAO.

    • @zhidapang8825
      @zhidapang8825 Před 4 lety +13

      @jwang604 are you jealous?

    • @zhidapang8825
      @zhidapang8825 Před 4 lety +7

      @jwang604 sure you are Chinese.. haha..alright, you're jealous ..

  • @Lewis-zp7dr
    @Lewis-zp7dr Před 4 lety +16

    Oh man time flies! Stephen Roach is looking much older. Last time I saw him was 7 years ago at a forum on Yale campus. He was insightful and energetic. He is still quite insightful compared to all these wanna be China experts. Hope he stays healthy and best wishes to him

  • @Sam-km7ws
    @Sam-km7ws Před 3 lety +12

    Max asked a great question!

  • @user-tc4lf9lk1p
    @user-tc4lf9lk1p Před 4 lety +82

    The right way is to focus on making yourself stronger not to hinder other's advancement.

    • @zootsoot2006
      @zootsoot2006 Před 4 lety +2

      Good idea! Then we'd get to enjoy the Nazis running the world. Moron.

    • @xuke103
      @xuke103 Před 4 lety +14

      zoot soot Define Nazis? US is creating wars in the middle east setting up military basis all over the world and forcing people to join its alliance, dropping bombs in other countries funding puppet governments? China never did those things before, so tell me who is the real Nazis here? LoL love seeing people showing how ignorant they are

    • @Myth520
      @Myth520 Před 4 lety +4

      @@zootsoot2006 your comment likes Nazism

    • @chuckiechakraverty7629
      @chuckiechakraverty7629 Před 4 lety

      @@xuke103 yes at least there will still be freedom when america takes over..if china takes over the world..we r done for..NO FREEDOM

    • @xuke103
      @xuke103 Před 4 lety +11

      Chuckie Chakraverty First of all the difference between US and China is China never wanted to take over the world, secondly it is so funny to see that someone who doesn’t even know a little bit about China leaving ignorant comment here

  • @pteranodon6612
    @pteranodon6612 Před 4 lety +90

    Perry Wong gave some interesting insight on how the Chinese view some privacy issues differently than Americans. It shows that a one-size-fits-all approach to human rights does not work.

    • @tsyw73
      @tsyw73 Před 3 lety +2

      @@joonerboi okay. Both statements are not in conflict.

    • @willtrask7309
      @willtrask7309 Před 3 lety +1

      While under surveillance I'm sure they'd say they love it. Wonder how they feel about genocide ?

    • @kimmeelee9758
      @kimmeelee9758 Před 2 lety +5

      What matters is if China's citizens are happy with their lives, see continual improvements in their lives (safety/security, standard of living, healthcare, education, housing), and are happy with their government. If they don't feel they don't have any freedoms or privacy, they won't be happy. Doesn't matter what the US, West, or other countries think.

    • @tsyw73
      @tsyw73 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kimmeelee9758 Ditto. Can't agree more with your perspective. 👍

    • @indeficit2
      @indeficit2 Před 2 lety

      But Wong paints with a broad brush with the familiar colors we in the West already see in China. He comes across as very insecure of his Chinese background and quick to make a target of these stereotypes from the very outset so to set himself apart as being critical of that which he is ashamed of. But these are very stereotypical of Chinese “norms.” Also his understanding of how the CPC plans for the future is overly simplistic.

  • @jackshen6519
    @jackshen6519 Před 3 lety +30

    The last word by Stephen summarized it well - "the issues are not supported by good evidence".

  • @JeepCherokeeful
    @JeepCherokeeful Před 3 lety +13

    Nobody could build a train station like that in 9 hours

  • @evehawasinare228
    @evehawasinare228 Před 4 lety +32

    The issue is not which country dominates but which one helps pull the rest of the world out of poverty. Imagine how much potential for growth if USA and China coexisted.

  • @erictheguitar
    @erictheguitar Před 4 lety +141

    stephen Roach is the only smart guy in the room

    • @robertzhang2988
      @robertzhang2988 Před 4 lety +5

      good,come to mainland china and apply PRC citizenship and you will be well paid by ccp.

    • @ph1688
      @ph1688 Před 4 lety +24

      *I totally agree with you. Stephen R. is not just smart but generous, righteous as well as higher character and a morality scholar. (( everyone else pretends & laughs at a false positive ))*
      *I loved his slogan " ...I'm not going near that place ( white house's oval office ) ! " Let's praying and God blessing him always.*

    • @Joe-rf3on
      @Joe-rf3on Před 4 lety +13

      Stephen Roach gave an unbiased view on the subject. He is unquestionably qualified for what he is. The other speakers all have their own preconceived positions and could not be counted on as conclusions.

    • @selinajones1109
      @selinajones1109 Před 4 lety +1

      welcome to China,give up ur citizenship

    • @muuhoang7592
      @muuhoang7592 Před 3 lety +1

      Stephen Roach is a big part of deep state. People like him are puppets to China who destroy the US economy.

  • @chandrur7905
    @chandrur7905 Před 3 lety +29

    There is nothing as ECONOMY , OR ANY AS SUCH - EXCEPT CHINA DANCING TO TUNES OF WESTERN FOXES.*- WHY ?
    WHY BECAUSE - CHINA'S LIFE STYLE IS DEPENDENT ON - " HARD WORK STYLE
    NOT- LAZY - SMART LIFE STYLES OF WEST.*
    EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE
    IF YOU KNOW IT. *
    CHEERS. *

  • @TXSH220
    @TXSH220 Před 2 lety +19

    When anyone on the stage looks back to this, all of them will feel like a fool.

    • @sebastiank9175
      @sebastiank9175 Před 2 lety

      dont have to look back , they all looks like fools already.

    • @tonytt667
      @tonytt667 Před 2 lety +1

      Except Stephen Roach

  • @xzcccc
    @xzcccc Před 4 lety +126

    12:50 Yiwu in Qinghai province? For Westerners, Please Do some research before talking about China OK? If you don't know where the problem starts, then you won't get to any conclusions.

    • @tobylee6456
      @tobylee6456 Před 4 lety +12

      The location they labelled is actually the city of Xi'an, the starting point of the ancient silk road. Yiwu is in the coastal province of Zhejiang, famous for its small commodity export economy. I am from China.

    • @FJB-NOW
      @FJB-NOW Před 3 lety +3

      Problem: CCP spread plague and covers it up. The West: Will fix the problem called the CCP.

    • @ladaffodilion
      @ladaffodilion Před 3 lety +10

      Thomas Pierno test your IQ before speaking

    • @sanramondublin
      @sanramondublin Před 3 lety +7

      @@FJB-NOW what you say is ideological slogan.
      And you know what you are saying, and are deliberate .
      I am writing this for those who did read your one line slogan of throwing mud at China's exceptional, inconceivable success .
      And China's success was unimaginable by Anglo-America elite imperial managers. ( one million Iraq citizens murdered; China did not do that.)

    •  Před 3 lety

      @Buck The Banjo Player Exactly, Chinese stolen Baiyue's civilazation of Vietnamese to make their culture

  • @weishiue2159
    @weishiue2159 Před 4 lety +48

    Watching these videos makes me want to move to China. It is not fair that Mr. Roach is not given enough time to tell us more good news from China

    • @Kyle_Schaff
      @Kyle_Schaff Před 4 lety +1

      *wei shiue*
      I haven’t finished the video yet, but I’ll edit this when I do if I’m proven wrong.
      China is not in a good place economically, socially, and politically right now from everything I’ve learned. That first guy kept droning on about being an advisor to Trump, we’ll see how this goes though

    • @weishiue2159
      @weishiue2159 Před 4 lety +1

      Kyle Schaff China is indeed not a good place to do anything !

    • @jeromeduque2511
      @jeromeduque2511 Před 4 lety +4

      China is the only ancient civilization standing.

    • @obj6989
      @obj6989 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Kyle_SchaffFrom what I learned from my friends living in China, that is the opposite of what is going on in the west. I guess they must be brainwashed too. I should watch more MSM news to correct my perception of reality. LoL

    • @Kyle_Schaff
      @Kyle_Schaff Před 3 lety

      @@obj6989
      Oh, so you’re replying to my comment from before COVID, nice. And no, I don’t rely on anecdotes from a few random people nor what the MSM says. I rely on statistics, articles, and studies published by relevant accredited sources.

  • @koonsiang0345
    @koonsiang0345 Před 4 lety +18

    I stopped watching the video the second I hear one of the members of the panel is on human rights. What does that have to do with the economy? Looks like another opportunity to stick it in.

    • @rb26benjamin8
      @rb26benjamin8 Před rokem

      Hypocrites Chinese never murdered non Chinese people or plundered foreign land with missiles etc yet they talk about how kmt

  • @francisng2561
    @francisng2561 Před 3 lety +2

    I was amazed with the Moderator, Sheryl. Look a little further, she is a author and certainly has good knowledge on China. Is not an easy job, when you are dealing with intellectuals, professionals and experts on trade, commerce, international laws, plus good knowledge of US, UK, Europe, China and etc. She managed to handle them pretty well and must know what kind of questions to ask. She is great..

  • @bingxia7351
    @bingxia7351 Před 4 lety +18

    Fabulous debate! I love Stephen!

  • @TheHzh82
    @TheHzh82 Před 4 lety +19

    12:48 I lost all respect to this panel when they failed to mark the correct location of Yiwu.

  • @ritayeoh3620
    @ritayeoh3620 Před 3 lety +15

    The Law of the Universe... You Reap What You Sow.
    Justice Will Always Be Served

  • @CFLai118
    @CFLai118 Před 3 lety +57

    Again, people who judge others according to their own culture and standards are definitely not worth listening to ...

    • @frankcrocker1029
      @frankcrocker1029 Před 3 lety +1

      You can seldom progress any differences if you claim other other people are just ‘not worth listening to’ ...... no listen...... no dialogue ....NO PROGRESS !

    • @frankcrocker1029
      @frankcrocker1029 Před 3 lety

      ttrttt

    • @williamz529
      @williamz529 Před 3 lety

      👍 that's what I going to say

    • @crystalclockworks9163
      @crystalclockworks9163 Před 3 lety

      I totally agree brother. White people need to realize that without slavery money they where fated to loose control of the world economy.

    • @crystalclockworks9163
      @crystalclockworks9163 Před 3 lety

      I totally agree brother. White people need to realize that without slavery money they where fated to loose control of the world economy.

  • @jzh0048
    @jzh0048 Před 4 lety +22

    Yale professor is a great economist.

  • @ViolaGMidi
    @ViolaGMidi Před 4 lety +24

    You know what! This is so cool! Everything is based on estimation and imagination. Good job!

  • @lizhang5772
    @lizhang5772 Před 4 lety +15

    Stephen Roach is the real hero

  • @shihtzuview7186
    @shihtzuview7186 Před 4 lety +74

    Why the human watch lady here? Stephen Roach is very honest man by slapping Sophia face, hard.

    • @tobylee6456
      @tobylee6456 Před 4 lety +3

      Because they could not find significant debaters for the other side.

    • @sinnieleeonUtube
      @sinnieleeonUtube Před 3 lety +8

      She's there for the sole purpose of trashing China. Maybe she should be watching all killings in US by cops. And all the people died becuase their health insurance refused to cover them even though they paid for their insurance.

    • @shihtzuview7186
      @shihtzuview7186 Před 3 lety +1

      @Henry Lockhart If you could do it, you would have done it long long time ago. Keep dreaming and pretending you are smart!

    • @sinnieleeonUtube
      @sinnieleeonUtube Před 3 lety +2

      @Henry Lockhart So what did the CPC do that you want to retaliate ?

    • @obj6989
      @obj6989 Před 3 lety +2

      @Henry Lockhart That sounds like an all out war towards Chinese civilization, not the CCP you pretend to claim. Likely it or not, nothing you could do.

  • @qiren_story
    @qiren_story Před 4 lety +81

    Stephen, you are the only smart and sensible person among those guys, but sadly it seems nobody was willing to listen to you

    • @MrLouDC
      @MrLouDC Před 4 lety

      We do listen to Stephen we just don't agree just like he doesn't agree with Michael who is equally smart.

    • @LaRoucheisright
      @LaRoucheisright Před 4 lety +4

      @@MrLouDC Yes Michael is smart enough to take to money. Listen to the speeches Chinese leaders. They all emphasize that China has no interest in replacing the USA as the global hegemon. The so called debt trap is an indefensible claim. Michael propagandized that numerous small countries were taken advantage of, but you will please recognize that he named not a single such country. The USA China, Russia and India must cooperate and use the Belt and Road to develope the world. Looks like Michael needs to sell a book.

    • @charleshoang7363
      @charleshoang7363 Před 4 lety

      I do !

    • @kohakugawazy
      @kohakugawazy Před 4 lety +1

      Actually I did listen to Stephen and most of what he claimed about China was not accurate. Force tech transfer is a fact that any American who is really doing business in China would know clearly the existence of such shitty practices by the Chinese government. In fact, one of the laws in China clearly discussed and regulates such a practice.

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 Před 3 lety

      No he is not. Obviously he is liberal leftist

  • @williamliu9398
    @williamliu9398 Před 3 lety +11

    Love Max's question: from the America perspective, why it sees Saudi Arabia as its core ally while goes against China, since human right is part of what America would ask in terms of what it requires in developing future relationship

    • @frankm4349
      @frankm4349 Před 3 lety +1

      Because human rights is just a tool.

    • @user-ti8qw1jq3o
      @user-ti8qw1jq3o Před 3 lety

      @@frankm4349 The question behind Max's question is that if US only fights for its profits, what's the advantage and justification of a democratic government over a communist government?

  • @RicardoGomesRodrigues
    @RicardoGomesRodrigues Před 3 lety +6

    My personal history is similar to of all my fellow countries in the neighborhood as for Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and so on. Back 32 years ago, with a doctor degree from George Washington University and working at the world bank, life looked promising. Then, America crushed me to the point of been slander in the streets of Washington DC and as consequence I lost not just the job but the working visa and to return no Brazil to fall in the hands of cruels militaries and my also of Family. America knew what will be of me if had to return. After all, nobody ends up to live a few miles from the White House without America knowing very well who I was and Why I was there. I dove deep into a mightmare of a miserable contry under control of pederasts in uniform. Somehow I manage to survive and every day since then I have ask to myself: "Why America has done that to me." Millions always have intered the country trying to escape persecution of all kind. America has never forced anybody out but did that to me! Why...? Well, this World is not divided between Democrats and Republicans but between Have and Have not. I am Have not, I guess. But now, at the age of 64 I know better. America's beacon of civilization is Comunist China.

  • @user-cs1vo8cs5z
    @user-cs1vo8cs5z Před 2 lety +6

    after watching the video, I felt it's more political idea promotion than analyzing the topic, most of the speakers were just attacking China on certain topics instead of the theme of this panel, also the attacking only consider China individually instead of comparing the US situation, I would more like to hear more valuable views through a panel, especially the risks and opportunities on economic

  • @gordonsek
    @gordonsek Před 4 lety +7

    Americans need to improve their Cross cultural and Cross religious communication skills and understanding with China to move forward positively as Smart Win-Win partner .
    In addition, China has 5,000 years of history and with strong determination and hard work, China rejuvenate and rise again.

  • @simplenowordcold
    @simplenowordcold Před 3 lety +30

    44:14 Mr. Stephen's response made my day......

    • @hatchegg80
      @hatchegg80 Před 3 lety +1

      the irony ... the hkers are by far ruder than mainland chinese

  • @shihtzuview7186
    @shihtzuview7186 Před 4 lety +12

    The panel should invite "expert" Gordon Chang to support Sophia's side of bullshxt.

    • @seansundance9017
      @seansundance9017 Před 4 lety +1

      China crashed 20 years ago . Gordon Chang would predict

  • @kmsdhaka
    @kmsdhaka Před 3 lety +17

    "Italians were really bad" .What a comment! Italy should do what Italy thinks is good for their future.

  • @tonyzhou538
    @tonyzhou538 Před 4 lety +14

    “I am not going near that place”
    I am dying now lol

    • @thesource4189
      @thesource4189 Před 3 lety

      Who prints the US money 🇺🇸 or 🇨🇳 🤔. 🔴C/7 🖐🏽

  • @user-mn8cx4kp5y
    @user-mn8cx4kp5y Před 4 lety +30

    when can you guys find someone who really knows about China to go to this kinda conversation?

  • @keepcreationprocess
    @keepcreationprocess Před 3 lety +6

    She is a good moderator to be confronting us with this major topic.

  • @TheRoon4660
    @TheRoon4660 Před 3 lety +33

    I tried to understand economics for ten years and what I found out is that these people know nothing of value for us.

    • @timtim5933
      @timtim5933 Před 3 lety +4

      Excellent 👌 analysis.The west thinks they know the world so much but they really don't.

  • @primarytrend7915
    @primarytrend7915 Před 4 lety +69

    I really like the Yale professor.
    What the hell is the lady in red doing in this kind of conversation?

    • @madeinchina1450
      @madeinchina1450 Před 4 lety +15

      she needs to see the doctor for mental illness.

    • @EnkhbatKhurts
      @EnkhbatKhurts Před 4 lety +2

      but how come mainland students abroad are all so crazy ? ;)

    • @prolotherapy
      @prolotherapy Před 4 lety +1

      中国制造 Made in China you sound just like a commie from the mainland.

    • @zootsoot2006
      @zootsoot2006 Před 4 lety +1

      Self-hating white guy. Drop him off in the middle of Henan, see how quick he gets a flight back to Connecticut.

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 Před 3 lety

      Ah no, im sure you are a liberal democrat. The way he sounds is like a democrat, ao entitled that they know things and more than the president. All i know is an insider in Obama admin is not impressed with his economic policies and yet i dont see this so called professor hate on it like he is on Trump. Thats liberal hate

  • @churabhok2869
    @churabhok2869 Před 3 lety +13

    None of them had a clue, what was coming 6 months down the line....perfect harmony!! :):):)

    • @peterpham6956
      @peterpham6956 Před 2 lety

      we agree CCP wish to attach every countries

  • @MsWencai
    @MsWencai Před 4 lety +27

    It is so nice to see Sophie was stuffed and stammered when she was cornered by Max's question. Hooray ..

    • @tdkyyyy
      @tdkyyyy Před 3 lety +1

      I thought she answered in an very candid and honest way that I haven’t seen from other human rights experts. Most of them just deflect the question.

    • @vacuumfireradio253
      @vacuumfireradio253 Před 3 lety

      You seem to have an agenda Wen. So lighter criticism of Saudi by the USA justifies human rights abuses by China does it?

    • @andrewmah5605
      @andrewmah5605 Před 3 lety

      Read the Holy (Circumcised) Abrahamic Bible 🤗😍🙏🏿😇🙏🏽😇🙏😍🤗

  • @tinatang1
    @tinatang1 Před 3 lety +3

    Shappleton speaks honestly and with courage. The US cannot improve without being honest about its problems/shortcomings. She cannot continue blaming other countries if it wants to remain #1.

  • @kkhpd9097
    @kkhpd9097 Před 4 lety +33

    So, if one choose not to go along the way the US wants, then it is WRONG because nobody other than US allows to set standard. Remember that China is not the running dog of US and why should China concedes to whatever US want it. Besides, please don't talk about standard when it is always a double standard.

  • @swakal8868
    @swakal8868 Před 4 lety +55

    Topic: China's economy in next 30 years
    People/Panel: We will discuss all stuff other than our today's topic😉

  • @dorjilew6248
    @dorjilew6248 Před 4 lety +8

    Some outsiders claiming to know what they don't know

  • @nickwang2017
    @nickwang2017 Před 3 lety +10

    Privacy is relative in turn of culture. I am not sure if these so called intellects really know what privacy mean.

  • @harryloo8544
    @harryloo8544 Před 4 lety +5

    Somehow according to some of these people; political dissident = creativity required for high tech economy
    But never offered to explain how the assumption are actually valid

  • @yonghuawu2596
    @yonghuawu2596 Před 4 lety +9

    Haha..Max raises a very tough question.

  • @19021904
    @19021904 Před 4 lety +10

    I heard the same thing 30 years ago.

    • @xuanhua7982
      @xuanhua7982 Před 4 lety +2

      Wow! I guess maybe we will hear the same thing 30 years later.

  • @xiaogeju2011
    @xiaogeju2011 Před 3 lety +4

    Some of the experts here are only experts for the sake of their business or of the sake of the US but not on China. Besides, the world consists not only of the USA and PRC. China deservers the chance... A lot of countries along the OBOR see it also as a chance for themselves. I believe in win-win cooperation.

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 Před 4 lety +38

    US should worry more about its own economy for the next ten years than China's. a slow and messy separation is taking place. china never ceased trading or buying Iranian oil and is sending warships to participate with Russia and Iran in navy drills in the gulf.

  • @tobyw9573
    @tobyw9573 Před 4 lety +5

    Perry Wong gives some excellent insights into the thinking and experiences in China and during its growth in recent decades.

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature Před 4 lety +43

    Lie, cheat, and steal. I like that reference. But I probably need Mike Pompeo to clarify what he meant.

    • @leezhieng
      @leezhieng Před 4 lety +9

      Yeah just like how China stolen 5G technology that doesn't yet exist in US lol.

    • @kurosakibell9982
      @kurosakibell9982 Před 3 lety +7

      @@leezhieng what? China stole 5G.?? Lmfao from whom.?? Are you aware that Huawei gave it's code to UK and UK found not 1 stain of evidance against them. Literally nothing.... don't just accuse anyone of whatever you want, give details. From whom did China steal, and how.???

    • @patrickpingkuiling9953
      @patrickpingkuiling9953 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kurosakibell9982 Read carefully what Lee commented. It was meant to be sarcastic.

    • @kurosakibell9982
      @kurosakibell9982 Před 3 lety +1

      @@patrickpingkuiling9953 he edited it. I think. It's a year old comment.

  • @robertgittings8662
    @robertgittings8662 Před 3 lety +6

    *FREE EDWARD Snowden!! Free Julian Assange!! Reinstate the brave Navy Captain!! Protect Freedom of Speech!!*

  • @simonwong6189
    @simonwong6189 Před 4 lety +10

    Yes stop war to whole worlds, working harder,saving more,spending more in infrastructures like China and become a equal partner,that will a great nation to our world.

    • @willengel2458
      @willengel2458 Před 4 lety

      exceptionalism is taught and the gullible believe they're exceptional and that's their Achilles' heel. US has no equal.

  • @sungjohnny3640
    @sungjohnny3640 Před 4 lety +21

    Stephen is the ONLY wise guy here, Bravo !

    • @TaTa-ce1kq
      @TaTa-ce1kq Před 4 lety

      Agree!! That Michael fellow said that Italy betrayed US just because Italy signed up for the BRI. Very childish. Like kindergarten children. Insecured was the moderator's word, That is most accurate.

  • @colinjohnson8106
    @colinjohnson8106 Před 3 lety +8

    I feel bad for that two economists.
    This discussion was pretty invalid

  • @ahmedbaradwan6619
    @ahmedbaradwan6619 Před 3 lety +2

    I have been in China 7 year’s continually and 6 years in and out.

  • @bertlong4894
    @bertlong4894 Před 4 lety +12

    beware of experts

  • @willweng305
    @willweng305 Před 4 lety +64

    A panel of outsider talking about China, imagining what China would be like. Classic error of applying western standards to Chinese value system.

    • @simonpoon3785
      @simonpoon3785 Před 4 lety +1

      Do you know about China?

    • @Kyle_Schaff
      @Kyle_Schaff Před 4 lety

      *Will Weng*
      Economies are economies. Their economic system has to confirm to its trade with Western-styled economies like USA, Europe, Japan, South Korea, and Australia. The structure of the country and its fundamental histories are distinct, but its globalization can’t be

    • @Kyle_Schaff
      @Kyle_Schaff Před 4 lety +1

      *An Gry*
      Where did I go wrong? It’s taking the same exact steps-following the same rubric-as other developing-to-developed nations have done before it albeit in its own unique fashion like every nation has done, too (because everyone has their own national identity). The Chinese play to their strengths like the Japanese had done, like the South Koreans had done, like the Germans post-WWII had done, etc., but it’s the same fundamental progression.

    • @chuamengkim6020
      @chuamengkim6020 Před 3 lety

      Imposed Western ideologies into the Chinese system ? All kinds of bullshit , uh. Where is the representative from China in this panel discussion ?

  • @aijazahmedsiddiqui3050
    @aijazahmedsiddiqui3050 Před 3 lety +2

    With China at the threshold of entering the CPEC in collaboration with regional power Pakistan, how will the nation advance further in the coming decades as iran, KSA and CARs are joining the bandwagon? In light of sharply rising geopolitical challenges on the global stage and the declining prospect of consistent moderate expansion on the domestic front, how the new generation of Chinese leadership tackles these challenges-if they choose to do so-via social transformation and political reform will be critical.

  • @pahatpahat9566
    @pahatpahat9566 Před 4 lety +8

    As we move into the 21st Century, it is obvious that many in the West realized that they can't compete with the basic infrastructure China is generating just like what the US did after WW2 on her road and rail construction. It would appear this is rather basic but somehow they seem to be more interested in showing off their military power and the only conclusion one can make is: these military industrial complexes are generating easier products where the competition is dependent on their leaders to sell them through the creation of fear across the world. Of course, the current riots across US nd UK seem a karmic reaction to their historical role in creating wars against the people worldwide!

    • @angelahang6941
      @angelahang6941 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes War money is easy money and super lucrative for US but really destroyed the lives of the some populations and is a counter-factor to production and human civilization, especially in modern societies. I know in history the civilizations lagging far behind were eradicated by wars and replaced by more advanced civilizations. But in modern times War has lost that function. The economic development is the answer to all the problems everywhere in the World.

    • @user-ut6mj4in8p
      @user-ut6mj4in8p Před 2 lety

      Maintain the luxury life of high consumption through finance, and use the hegemony of the dollar to pass the price on to other countries.
      But the contradictions will return to the original origin, which is why in the 20th century, the United States suffered from 9/11 and the financial tsunami one after another.
      You still have to pay the price in the end, sooner or later.

    • @9OClockRant
      @9OClockRant Před rokem

      The US can control the cost, budget, and results of military spending. They also know any infrastructure spending can only ends in overspending, delays, get less, and problems.

  • @littleboy437
    @littleboy437 Před 4 lety +15

    not brilliant...fancy words...no direction...academic talk...worthless

    • @yllee472
      @yllee472 Před 3 lety

      @@Olav3D What is Wumou meaning? I have spotted this word few times.

  • @gaoleclan8101
    @gaoleclan8101 Před 4 lety +34

    Stephen nailed everyone,haha

  • @Benjamin-jp6si
    @Benjamin-jp6si Před 4 lety +23

    Asia are blessed they are good investors and good producers that why there economy is going to blow up they got all most all the properties in America California the most .good for them .

    • @satoshistacker7945
      @satoshistacker7945 Před 4 lety +2

      true .

    • @marbellopez7735
      @marbellopez7735 Před 4 lety +2

      what do you think Asia invest in , in the usa ?

    • @bradfinn4010
      @bradfinn4010 Před 4 lety

      Michael Vincent not only real estates treasury securities crypto CDS.

    • @Benjamin-jp6si
      @Benjamin-jp6si Před 4 lety +4

      Marbel Lopez they invest in a lot ,real estate. Forex stock they import and export. Municipal bond funds. Dividend-paying stocks etc

    • @marbellopez7735
      @marbellopez7735 Před 4 lety +2

      Benjamin Muller thanks which of them can you use less than $11 000 to start cause i know municipal bond funds need like $ 30 000 to begin .

  • @zhinan888
    @zhinan888 Před 4 lety +17

    I like Steven Roach's take. The rest sounds like sour grapes who still want to lecture other people on how they should run their lives.

  • @aarongao3578
    @aarongao3578 Před 4 lety +6

    like Max question

  • @edwachen2703
    @edwachen2703 Před 4 lety +3

    No pictures of high speed rails; one of the infrastructure symbols of One Belt One Road.

    • @sensey07
      @sensey07 Před 4 lety

      Yeah ... showing freight cars from 1964 ... pfffft

  • @AG-kp8es
    @AG-kp8es Před 2 lety +3

    How laughable and ridiculous is it that Americans think they have the rightto tell other people how to live their lives

  • @simplenowordcold
    @simplenowordcold Před 3 lety +18

    40:36 The old professor is telling the truth again...... while Sophie's reaction is funny...

  • @pardeeptandon6730
    @pardeeptandon6730 Před 4 lety +9

    Chinese project management skills are miles ahead of that available to Americans. America should take the help of Chinese to improve its third world infrastructure.

  • @FBIXHUNTER
    @FBIXHUNTER Před 4 lety +14

    Stephen Roach ~you are breath taking !

  • @rickyeng56
    @rickyeng56 Před 3 lety +12

    Haha, Human right with priority! Or Human right with bias?

    • @digeng6120
      @digeng6120 Před 3 lety

      Human rights are just an excuse to intervene in other countries.....

    • @digeng6120
      @digeng6120 Před 3 lety +1

      @Agris Bisenieks OK,good luck friend,and take care,don't forget to wear a mask

  • @lianghan1307
    @lianghan1307 Před 4 lety +4

    That Hongkee guy named Wong is the worst of the bashers; that's the tragedy of the Chinese nation, so many traitors in their midst.

  • @stanleytam2566
    @stanleytam2566 Před 4 lety +11

    they don't understand chinese way of thinking

    • @robertlewis2542
      @robertlewis2542 Před 4 lety

      They new the west was attempting to hustle them and allowed the west to hustle itself.

  • @limhongchee6863
    @limhongchee6863 Před 4 lety +8

    Sophie tend to single out china as Stephen as pointed out is entirely not fair.

  • @heyunyan4065
    @heyunyan4065 Před 3 lety +3

    A group of western experts are discussing Chiaese economy in the future. How satiric it is.

  • @HaceSunnyDSol
    @HaceSunnyDSol Před 3 lety +7

    Love how the audience just ignores Perry Wong's bitter racial diatribe against Mainlanders.

    • @kimmeelee9758
      @kimmeelee9758 Před 2 lety

      One could easily make the case that Perry has a superiority complex and is a narcisist.

    • @qindu4120
      @qindu4120 Před 2 lety

      ​@@kimmeelee9758 Quite typical among those from Hong Kong who have some serious self-identity crises.