I don't follow rugby league any more mainly because it's not played like this any more. The 10 metre rule wasn't necessary, scrum changes weren't needed and the rules have constantly been watered and dumbed down to the point that rugby league these days is just an aggressive form of touch football. Love watching these old replays though. Except the 89 Grand Final, hate that one.
Agree 1000%.Today’s RL is far too restrictive.And apart from the joke that today’s scrums are, my biggest peeve is the amount of decoy running that is allowed.And what you said about today’s RL being just an aggressive form of touch footy,and IMHO how the attrition is no longer existent,is also 1000%.
Couldn't agree more!! Loved league around this time and the decade before and after. Come the early 90's I just wasn't bothered any more. Today's game?? Can barely watch it!
@@zabaleta66 I am wondering just how many there would be who feel the same as us. I used to be a passionate league supporter, wrote letters to Rugby League Week (looked forward to that publication every week) followed Balmain avidly (hence the '89 GF comment above) but I truly couldn't give a toss about the game now. Scrums are a total joke and nothing is being done, play the balls are usually a version of touch rugby's roll ball. I could go on but it would start to piss me off again. It just goes to show that not everything in the modern world is an improvement on the "old days".
Well, you've missed out on watching some magical games of Rugby League because you are stuck in the past and you're too close minded to accept that things change with time. I prefer the way they played 40 years ago too, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it today either. Things change, accept it and move on with it, or don't and get left behind. Adapt or die; your love of footy didn't adapt and thus died. But don't bitch about the fact that things change and you can't, because that's your issue, no one else's. It's not your game.
@@ray.shoesmith The main reason the 10 meter rule came in was because of falling crowd numbers. By the mid 80's the game had become so boring it was crazy. And scrums yeah they were great. Spend 5 minutes trying to get one packed just so the ref could pluck a penalty out of his arse.....just because he could. But lets not stop there. Why not go back to unlimited tackles and contested play the balls lol. Honestly if people miss rugby league from that era. Go watch some club rugby its at about the same level.
You forget. This is what footy was like for 80 years... Then just a decade after this, a Massive change, then a decade after that, a Massive change... Great upload, makes you remember where footy came from, and just how much, and how Quickly it changed...
Did I just see the ref give a try without the bunker, 50/50 and phone a friend??? Goal kickers using .... SAND!? Kickin straight instead of round the corner... Boy brings back memories!!!!!!!! What ever happened to this great game... and as someone else said, WTF is the point of a modern scrum? The ball doesnt even get inside! IF they played like this game today - the half dozen refs would have a conference, and then it would abandoned
Darn, I don’t know how the algorithm put this in my feed, but I was glued to watching this match, every name of every player brought back such great times and memories….I played that field (Belmore Oval) so many times as a junior and watched so many games there…thanks for posting, that was awesome
Surprised boyd didnt go for using an elbow on hughes in the opening minutes. Even more surprising to see Dorahy do something dirty. Nowadays those sendoffs would just go on report.
My elder brother was in same year of medicine at Uni with George Peponis. I asked my bro how he managed to get through medicine while playing first grade, bro said he was very very bright.
Also that was a time when the NSWRL ran a special program to assist players with education while they were playing. Trying to set them up for life after footy.
Classic game, in the true sense of the word, one of those matches that bordered on near-anarchy. Wests had a lot of trouble with Canterbury that year, they lost to them all three times they met, including most importantly in a sudden-death semi-final. There must have been a rep game on the Saturday for the ABC to do a Sunday game.
Well they made the Grand Final from 5th, which was a pretty mean feat back then. Both club games were pretty tight, but we got our butts spanked in the semi. We were never really in the game after about the first 20 minutes.
Good old Geoff Robinson. He played for Halifax in the Championship winning side of 1985. He’d get pissed at the Plumbet Line on Monday night, train Tuesday nights and get pissed at Crossleys bar, train on Thursdays and get pissed again at the Upper George, get pissed on Saturday night at The Plumbet line again. Then on Sundays he’d knock seven bells out of the Wigan, Warrington or Hull KR packs and then get pissed again at Crossleys bar after the game. What a legend.
i was at that game i was only 18 showed my kids how footy should be played they just looked at me and said dad that was back in your day yes the best years lolololololol real men playing real footy
@@cheshunt5597 yes i loved the white version too but I had a black jumper as a kid and I’d put it on listen to the radio call and bash my brother in ferocious tackles in the back yard. That team was full of legends and as a kid with heaps of passion for rugby leauge who else could you support. Tommy T was rugby leauge personified and the leader of this great pack of players
The woke part has only been around for the past 5 years with all the pride loving crap… it’s more to do with the change of times, league players are meat heads that piss in their own mouths, rape woman, drug and gambling abuse, the men of today are far more weak than the men of that age. Big corporate has taken over not like back then which pushes for woman in men’s spaces, league, construction etc not saying the men were less savage but they didn’t have a lot back then like we do now
Hi @tomytiger thanks for the upload. I love the nostalgia. This is proof of where the game was born. Tough men playing a hard game that's been watered down. Can you imagine a woman team in those days? Great to see in the footage some things we may have forgoten. Barely any advertising, cardboard b&w corner posts, 5 yard rule, a 3 man scrum, knock ons without the video ref scrutiny, and the police paddy wagon parked on the hill.. No doubt they were very different times.
Every second tackle is head high. Some people like this forgetting many of these players ended up with dementia. One of the most tragic was Dallas Donnelly.
This is the rugby league I grew up playing. Free flowing, quick play the ball, proper contested scrums. I grew up as a hooker. It was tough in there. Hard work and highly skilled. Why do they even have a scrum these days??
The lack of green grass in those days also stands out - the technology around ground preparation has come a long way. And then there's playing a top level game on each of two consecutive days for some rep players!
Check out the turf, you had to be a hard man back then, the Magpies were my team and Les Boyd was their best forward by far of that era, loved him he was baited by other players cause they needed to put him off his game, at times they got under his skin and he reacted which at times made him look bad.... Great great player thou..... on you Les for the memories......cheers 31:28
I'm a rooster but I do remember a game at Leichhardt oval when Harvey got sent off for an elbow shortly followed by Ayliffe with a coat hanger god I miss the 70 & 80's bring back the biff
@@glenchapman3899yes I remember this😏i 1s/t went there in ‘75 as a 12 yo traveling st George supporter😩I was so blown away how different it was to kogarah,we caught the train and remember the old stand still standing there outside the ground from it’s circular days🏉we come over the top to bitumen’hill with steel bars it was like nfl 😵💫we luved going there in the ‘70’s early’80’s always huge crowds✅those were the days 👍
@@poitor492 The first time I went was for an Amco cup game in 74. Pouring rain with only about 400 people for a night game. Did not realize the place had been redeveloped. Plan was to get up in the stand. Can not imagine the look on our faces when we realized we would be sitting in the rain for 2 hours lol
@@brucebird133perhaps the question should be a asked why grass couldn't be grown in those days? Have we miraculously discovered how to grow turf? Semi pro players, semi pro conditions.
@@nickmaguire4914 Most of the grounds stayed in pretty good shape until about 2/3rds of the way through the season, then things would get ugly. But remember this is the 3rd full game played on the field that day, and they would also train on it 2 or 3 times a week.
@@nickmaguire4914 Yeah for sure, and it was only ten years before that, you had to play in high ankle boots because the grounds were so rough. Now they level them with lasers lol
It’s all well and good to talk about the “old days “ with affection but…..a lot of the people who played in this era ended up with brain damage….its not funny.
Ya' just can't beat a good game of cheap shots in tackles, stupid but entertaining penalties, good blues and bloody magnificent SCRUMS!!! (Why they got rid of proper scrums with correct feeds, has got me buggarred??? All this did was delete the specialist Hooker from the game. League is now a namby-pamby game of "turnovers", "6-again" and a gazillion "soft penalties").
Boyd was a nasty spiteful dirty player. I have seen lots of thugs, lots of thought guys but Boyd was just nasty. He got what he deserved in the end. Ande it irks me he hides behind this gentle giant narrative who got white line fever. You could even say he was a real sociopath on the RL field.
I know Les Boyd - he's no angel, but he does have a huge heart. He is an honest man and would not hesitate to tell you to your face what he thought of you. Don't think he has ever used social media to act tough to someone, though...
Well good for you, im not afraid of an old man. A man is judged by his actions and there is plenty of proof his actions were of a vicious sociopath. Sociopaths have huge hearts as well. I stand by what I say. @@daleperry7759
@@daleperry7759you've said nothing that refutes what he said. I agree with him and what Les is like off the field (and I'm from Group 9) in no way changes what he did on it. He's not on his own in that Wests pack and as much as I rate them they had a modus operandi that worked for them but was pretty ordinary. The worst part is if those players had a coach who didn't rely on the filthy stuff they had football ability coming out of their arse that was not exploited. As much as Roy Masters was lauded I think he was not a great RL coach. A good one but not a great one. Cheers
Don't know if you heard the argument Brohman and Fulton had but it was about Boyd. Brohman calling him a thug and Fulton calling him a gentleman. All started after Boyd's wife rang the weekend football show to tell Brohman to stop writing articles in the paper about the broken jaw incident years later. Funny thing is it was after this on air spat that Brohman rose to higher levels as a media personality.
The agro that day was a little unusual. Both sides came out niggling from the kick off. Did not help how much stuff (from both sides) the ref was letting go until it blew up and the send offs started. Both Boyd and Robinson should have had multiple cautions in the first 5 minutes
I don't follow rugby league any more mainly because it's not played like this any more. The 10 metre rule wasn't necessary, scrum changes weren't needed and the rules have constantly been watered and dumbed down to the point that rugby league these days is just an aggressive form of touch football. Love watching these old replays though. Except the 89 Grand Final, hate that one.
Agree 1000%.Today’s RL is far too restrictive.And apart from the joke that today’s scrums are,
my biggest peeve is the amount of decoy running that is allowed.And what you said about today’s
RL being just an aggressive form of touch footy,and IMHO how the attrition is no longer existent,is
also 1000%.
Couldn't agree more!! Loved league around this time and the decade before and after. Come the early 90's I just wasn't bothered any more.
Today's game?? Can barely watch it!
@@zabaleta66 I am wondering just how many there would be who feel the same as us. I used to be a passionate league supporter, wrote letters to Rugby League Week (looked forward to that publication every week) followed Balmain avidly (hence the '89 GF comment above) but I truly couldn't give a toss about the game now. Scrums are a total joke and nothing is being done, play the balls are usually a version of touch rugby's roll ball. I could go on but it would start to piss me off again. It just goes to show that not everything in the modern world is an improvement on the "old days".
Well, you've missed out on watching some magical games of Rugby League because you are stuck in the past and you're too close minded to accept that things change with time. I prefer the way they played 40 years ago too, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it today either. Things change, accept it and move on with it, or don't and get left behind. Adapt or die; your love of footy didn't adapt and thus died. But don't bitch about the fact that things change and you can't, because that's your issue, no one else's. It's not your game.
@@ray.shoesmith The main reason the 10 meter rule came in was because of falling crowd numbers. By the mid 80's the game had become so boring it was crazy. And scrums yeah they were great. Spend 5 minutes trying to get one packed just so the ref could pluck a penalty out of his arse.....just because he could. But lets not stop there. Why not go back to unlimited tackles and contested play the balls lol. Honestly if people miss rugby league from that era. Go watch some club rugby its at about the same level.
That Wests Victa Jersey is the greatest club jersey of all time.
Eastern Suburbs City Ford Jersey is the GOAT but the Victa jersey is a close second.
I've still got one and wear it to Suncorp every time I go there. Always gets plenty of approving comments, even from the Broncos flogs
@@jesusmontana6167
Nah Definitely the Victa Jersey
Born at Ashfield in '46. The Maggies was my team until it wasn't.
I met Clive Churchill and had a Magpies jersey...Yes im old...
AHHH the days when they played football. 👍
You forget. This is what footy was like for 80 years...
Then just a decade after this, a Massive change, then a decade after that, a Massive change...
Great upload, makes you remember where footy came from, and just how much, and how Quickly it changed...
And not for the better.
The 10 meter rule killed Rugby league.
If only it was just fotty that has been purposely changed...
Did I just see the ref give a try without the bunker, 50/50 and phone a friend???
Goal kickers using .... SAND!? Kickin straight instead of round the corner... Boy brings back memories!!!!!!!!
What ever happened to this great game... and as someone else said, WTF is the point of a modern scrum? The ball doesnt even get inside!
IF they played like this game today - the half dozen refs would have a conference, and then it would abandoned
Darn, I don’t know how the algorithm put this in my feed, but I was glued to watching this match, every name of every player brought back such great times and memories….I played that field (Belmore Oval) so many times as a junior and watched so many games there…thanks for posting, that was awesome
Surprised boyd didnt go for using an elbow on hughes in the opening minutes. Even more surprising to see Dorahy do something dirty. Nowadays those sendoffs would just go on report.
Bring back the suburban grounds and the hard men of footy. I miss those days.
You do know you can go and support semi-professional and amateur Rugby League any time you like instead of moaning on the internet?
Will never happen
All about the mighty $$$$$$ these days
@@Mick_4591 Yes true. Not the same though.
What a great Canterbury Bankstown team
My elder brother was in same year of medicine at Uni with George Peponis. I asked my bro how he managed to get through medicine while playing first grade, bro said he was very very bright.
Also that was a time when the NSWRL ran a special program to assist players with education while they were playing. Trying to set them up for life after footy.
George was a 'Cantabian'.
Classic game, in the true sense of the word, one of those matches that bordered on near-anarchy. Wests had a lot of trouble with Canterbury that year, they lost to them all three times they met, including most importantly in a sudden-death semi-final.
There must have been a rep game on the Saturday for the ABC to do a Sunday game.
Well they made the Grand Final from 5th, which was a pretty mean feat back then. Both club games were pretty tight, but we got our butts spanked in the semi. We were never really in the game after about the first 20 minutes.
Good old Geoff Robinson. He played for Halifax in the Championship winning side of 1985. He’d get pissed at the Plumbet Line on Monday night, train Tuesday nights and get pissed at Crossleys bar, train on Thursdays and get pissed again at the Upper George, get pissed on Saturday night at The Plumbet line again. Then on Sundays he’d knock seven bells out of the Wigan, Warrington or Hull KR packs and then get pissed again at Crossleys bar after the game. What a legend.
Thank Channel 9 for all the changes
The great John O'Reilly commentating with Reg Gasnier...
Its so pleasing to listen to... not a pack of has beens rambling shit
i was at that game i was only 18 showed my kids how footy should be played they just looked at me and said dad that was back in your day yes the best years lolololololol real men playing real footy
The way footy should be played with some modifications of course,it's just the Thug opponents need to cut of the game for everyones health and safety.
Even the socks look better in the 70s.
Absolutely loved the magpies jersey. Started supporting them when Joe Cool joined them from the Red Devils in wollongong.
@@paulleslie5855 Wests also had a rarely used white version which was cool.
@@cheshunt5597 yes i loved the white version too but I had a black jumper as a kid and I’d put it on listen to the radio call and bash my brother in ferocious tackles in the back yard. That team was full of legends and as a kid with heaps of passion for rugby leauge who else could you support. Tommy T was rugby leauge personified and the leader of this great pack of players
Before Australia became woke
Because australia doesn't play league anymore right
The woke part has only been around for the past 5 years with all the pride loving crap… it’s more to do with the change of times, league players are meat heads that piss in their own mouths, rape woman, drug and gambling abuse, the men of today are far more weak than the men of that age. Big corporate has taken over not like back then which pushes for woman in men’s spaces, league, construction etc not saying the men were less savage but they didn’t have a lot back then like we do now
By jingoes my Magpies could defend!
Referee Braybrook had an absolute shocker.
Oh! Geez .. isn't it ALWAYS the refs fault!!
Hi @tomytiger thanks for the upload. I love the nostalgia. This is proof of where the game was born. Tough men playing a hard game that's been watered down. Can you imagine a woman team in those days? Great to see in the footage some things we may have forgoten. Barely any advertising, cardboard b&w corner posts, 5 yard rule, a 3 man scrum, knock ons without the video ref scrutiny, and the police paddy wagon parked on the hill.. No doubt they were very different times.
Every second tackle is head high.
Some people like this forgetting many of these players ended up with dementia. One of the most tragic was Dallas Donnelly.
Pass to Gearin a Mile Forward what a Joke!!!!
"Drifted slightly forward" haha.
It was a hard mans game in those days. Bush footy was even worse at times.
THE WINFEILD SMOKING SIGN THOU😂LOL...
On the other hand, it's amazing to realize that there was no organized betting on any of these games.
Ah, 1970s Aussie rugby league … when the men were men and the sheep were nervous.
West Da best football team in da world ❤❤❤❤
And where are they now?
One of the best game ever seen tough men
Have been a Canterbury follower and always cringed when we played against Wests. But those games made interesting viewing.
Braebrook was a flip of a ref the lowest
This is the rugby league I grew up playing. Free flowing, quick play the ball, proper contested scrums. I grew up as a hooker. It was tough in there. Hard work and highly skilled. Why do they even have a scrum these days??
Probably in the contract!
What a difference...Not being bombarded with ubiquitous advertising.
The lack of green grass in those days also stands out - the technology around ground preparation has come a long way.
And then there's playing a top level game on each of two consecutive days for some rep players!
The grounds were that hard back then, you would cover your knees in Vaseline but still come up bleeding each tackle.
Did you you make that up
Correct,like playing on a cricket pitch,or a quagmire when it pissed down.Good times😂😂😂😉⏰
Days before big sponsors see side board boys should get royalties from the reql game to the game today
Check out the turf, you had to be a hard man back then, the Magpies were my team and Les Boyd was their best forward by far of that era, loved him he was baited by other players cause they needed to put him off his game, at times they got under his skin and he reacted which at times made him look bad.... Great great player thou..... on you Les for the memories......cheers 31:28
That's proper footy
Real rugby league these girls today wouldn't last long ❤
Remember when Dallas kicked a field goal ?....
Dorahy's send off was ridiculous.
Wouldn't you love to see this Magpies team line up against an NRL team of today.
John Donnelly was a monster hard man full on
I attended those Lidcombe oval games .even asked Dallas in the club later about being sent off I quickly retreated
This one’s belmore☝🏼
classic thanks for sharing
Punches, head highs .. all while playing on fields rougher than bitumen. Neither this game nor the modern game can survive.
I'm a rooster but I do remember a game at Leichhardt oval when Harvey got sent off for an elbow shortly followed by Ayliffe with a coat hanger god I miss the 70 & 80's bring back the biff
Is that you Reg Regan?😅
Back when they tackled around the legs.....no sponsor for The Berries
And the head.
They didn't need a sponsor on their jumpers. The whole ground was one big ad for rothmans.
it was called the Battle of Belmore@!
Go the mighty magpies!
When footy was good!
14.44 NSW Police in the ground ( get paid watch footy tough times for cops ! 😂😂
Great wests top the only magpies I ever liked was wests until they merged with Balmain
Les Boyd should've been the first sent off for leading with the elbow.
And not 1 islander player on the field, how things have changed.
The huge crowd on the west side where the teams run out is extraordinary. Is that a stand? There is no roof.
No. back then it was a terraced hill with tarmac on it. I think the lower section had seats.
@@glenchapman3899yes I remember this😏i 1s/t went there in ‘75 as a 12 yo traveling st George supporter😩I was so blown away how different it was to kogarah,we caught the train and remember the old stand still standing there outside the ground from it’s circular days🏉we come over the top to bitumen’hill with steel bars it was like nfl 😵💫we luved going there in the ‘70’s early’80’s always huge crowds✅those were the days 👍
@@poitor492 The first time I went was for an Amco cup game in 74. Pouring rain with only about 400 people for a night game. Did not realize the place had been redeveloped. Plan was to get up in the stand. Can not imagine the look on our faces when we realized we would be sitting in the rain for 2 hours lol
What a dust bowl Belmore was in those days
Imagine todays players playing on ground that rough and like concrete.. Poor diddums would need the first aid cart to get em off.
@@brucebird133perhaps the question should be a asked why grass couldn't be grown in those days? Have we miraculously discovered how to grow turf? Semi pro players, semi pro conditions.
@@nickmaguire4914 Most of the grounds stayed in pretty good shape until about 2/3rds of the way through the season, then things would get ugly. But remember this is the 3rd full game played on the field that day, and they would also train on it 2 or 3 times a week.
Yeah very true Glen, a lot has certainly changed
@@nickmaguire4914 Yeah for sure, and it was only ten years before that, you had to play in high ankle boots because the grounds were so rough. Now they level them with lasers lol
" when meat pies " had mince" and doubt about ingredients !: also. " biffo" all in boxing rugby players (meat pies and Holden cars )
Chris Anderson passes about 5 metres forward for a try. Some bizarre refereeing but entertaining football.
Geoff Robinson and Chris Anderson Halifax legends
I'll tell ya what, I actually done a fair bit of WEEZE today which I thought was pretty good.
Great era, though I prefer skills over knuckle
Imagine this game played under today's rules !
Ha ha ha ha
You would have 6 players sent off from each side.
IT'd be abandoned
Footy was so exciting in the 70’s & 80’s .. these guys had no idea of self preservation.. tough as nails. Footy is soft azz now.. annoying bunka BS.
@@7colliemac If it was so exciting why were the crowds dropping?
lol Dorahee with the assault.
King hit merchant, Donnelly.
Different game them days hard Struggle up do quick of play the ball short 5 plenty forward passes
Back when the players had 12 schooners a day. Today they have one night off a week and drink 70 schooners lol.
Brilliant
Anyone else come here to see a bit of Les Boyd violence?
What year is this match
It’s all well and good to talk about the “old days “ with affection but…..a lot of the people who played in this era ended up with brain damage….its not funny.
They put the stink on aye.
There was a crazy dude called the wild man Robinson arghhh get outta his way
Ya' just can't beat a good game of cheap shots in tackles, stupid but entertaining penalties, good blues and bloody magnificent SCRUMS!!! (Why they got rid of proper scrums with correct feeds, has got me buggarred??? All this did was delete the specialist Hooker from the game. League is now a namby-pamby game of "turnovers", "6-again" and a gazillion "soft penalties").
Whos mum had to wash the jerseys
👍👍👍👍👍👍😊
wow now thats real footy
Boyd was a nasty spiteful dirty player. I have seen lots of thugs, lots of thought guys but Boyd was just nasty. He got what he deserved in the end. Ande it irks me he hides behind this gentle giant narrative who got white line fever. You could even say he was a real sociopath on the RL field.
I know Les Boyd - he's no angel, but he does have a huge heart.
He is an honest man and would not hesitate to tell you to your face what he thought of you.
Don't think he has ever used social media to act tough to someone, though...
Well good for you, im not afraid of an old man. A man is judged by his actions and there is plenty of proof his actions were of a vicious sociopath. Sociopaths have huge hearts as well. I stand by what I say. @@daleperry7759
Boyd wasnt the only one spiteful in those days.... you could pick numerous players from every club
@@daleperry7759you've said nothing that refutes what he said. I agree with him and what Les is like off the field (and I'm from Group 9) in no way changes what he did on it. He's not on his own in that Wests pack and as much as I rate them they had a modus operandi that worked for them but was pretty ordinary.
The worst part is if those players had a coach who didn't rely on the filthy stuff they had football ability coming out of their arse that was not exploited.
As much as Roy Masters was lauded I think he was not a great RL coach. A good one but not a great one.
Cheers
Don't know if you heard the argument Brohman and Fulton had but it was about Boyd. Brohman calling him a thug and Fulton calling him a gentleman. All started after Boyd's wife rang the weekend football show to tell Brohman to stop writing articles in the paper about the broken jaw incident years later. Funny thing is it was after this on air spat that Brohman rose to higher levels as a media personality.
Go the VICTA still doing people proud
Legendary mowers.
Actually its good to see it wasnt only Manly that wests tried to beat up. And they STILL couldnt win the comp.😊
The agro that day was a little unusual. Both sides came out niggling from the kick off. Did not help how much stuff (from both sides) the ref was letting go until it blew up and the send offs started. Both Boyd and Robinson should have had multiple cautions in the first 5 minutes
Some tuff footy. Lota cheap shots to.
Redonacus was an absolute overrated nothing.
Great game
Cheers @tomytiger20, brings back a lot of childhood memories.
Damn that ref was horrible.
I was at this game. The standard of refereeing was atrocious. Braybrook should never have been allowed to control any future games.
Rubbish. Braybrook should have sent off Cooper and Boyd as well.
I was there as well and both West and Doggie fans were infuriated about how much was being let go
It’s obvious that the standard of referees hasn’t changed in 45 years