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Alan is only 33? shouldn't you still gain more strength and muscle at that age?
he should but he runs a lot and doesn't take training seriously because he has kids đ€š
he should and i think he could but that's just not his main goal. he has a business and family first
@@djnibber Wanted to make sure because there are Fitness CZcamsrs in their mid-thirties who are still setting up PRs
No
@@ellisthejerk8018 likely because they began training later in life and or had not been training or eating optimally during their 20âs
Alan is the man. He can still outlift tons of guys that are juicing and will probably have a better later life because of not choosing that path
But to paraphrase and butcher George Orwell, "There is something to be said to dying in your boots"
Alan really is an example of someone whose goals go beyond being being big for instagram. He built his own gym business and made a family and never really aimed to be at the top level in strongman or powerlifting competitions. When strength is not your only goal there is no reason to sacrifice so much to achieve it.
Itâs so refreshing to see people like Alan in the fitness industry, this is the right attitude towards fitness and health. Personally I wouldnât ever touch any ped unless I have a very determined goal that I actually believe that I have a chance to achieve. Fitness influencer should really be focusing more on health itself rather than just being bigger and stronger.
What you are not getting is that Weightlifting is a sport, either strength competitions or Bodybuilding. You don't get trophies for a good attitude. It is all about getting bigger and stronger. Not healthier, though that is certainly a side benefit. I think Alans attitude is depressing and not factually correct. It's all downhill after 33. There are lots of things one could be doing that would make one healthier or extend life. Running is a good example.
@@rickdalbey6009 I used to be a professional powerlifter, I think I know a thing or two about strength sport. However I still believe thereâs nothing more important than your health in the long term
@@rickdalbey6009 Alan is just not as interested in chasing those numbers he previously had. Heâs a fit ass guy. I think heâs starting to run more.
@@avxrevo Exactly. When he says his best numbers are behind him, I think that is not necessarily true. I believe he has time to gain more muscle size and muscle strength, but he is now more interested in running. His new body is a runners body. But I resent the fact that he makes that rule for everybody. What a depressing message for anyone over 33.
â@@rickdalbey6009 scooby
"You can't keep putting on muscle forever [naturally], unless of course you're Mike O'Hearn." Hahahahahahaha!! Well played, sir. Well played. :D
Bro I laughed loud as hell
Look at Alanâs physique boys. That is what lean and natty looks like.
I disagree a lean natural can look a lot bigger he looks great but his focus has mainly been strength rather than bodybuilding
It depends on several factors. Genetics play a large role. Some people are more prone to be tall, others short. Some people are more prone to fast twitch muscle fibers, some to slow twitch. Some people are more prone to large bone structure, some small. Some people are more prone to have muscle insertions closer to joints, some farther away. All of these factors, and several others, play a part in how someone is going to look as far as muscular build goes. How you train plays a really big part. Compare most power lifters to bodybuilders, and you'll definitely notice that.
This video he looks more "athletic" build. I've never seen any of his videos, so it's possible there's a difference to that in other videos.
@@jatbatman he's an ex strongman/powerlifter
@@lukeet331 bro get real. You can look at this manâs work ethic on CZcams videos that span over 10 years. He doesnât do a conjugate program. Heâs done enough to grow and this is what he got. Thatâs just how being natural is. Doesnât look like Matt OâHern does it? You can look bigger if you lose the abs, or if youâre short and showing the bunched up muscles in a picture.
Strength makes you bigger only fake natties say otherwise you canât get bigger naturally without getting stronger
As someone who actually trains at untamed occasionally and has competed alongside him (representing Saiyan Strength) in strongman this guy is pretty athletic and it's really crazy watching his drive. Watching him and my coach Nickpigulski go at is always a fun spectacle.
STFU and go back to watching your fucking anime, you fucking weeaboo! God why do you losers have be on comment section on video that aren't anime related! This isn't an anime channel, so get the fuck out of here and go spread your anime obsession cancer on anime channel only, you fucking loser!
I have trained for 11 years now, im 34 and i have seen so many guys becoming incredible bulky in just 2 months, benchpress 315 "only" and now they cant even benchpress 200 lbs. I have never ever used any drugs and currently my bench is around 245lbs for 5 reps. Yes, im not superstrong but im natty and im happy because i have been improving step by step and consistently over the years and knowing that im healthy.... i feel good with my self.
I cant hit any of your numbers but IDGAF either and thats what will make us both happy. Who cares what others think? Just aim to be better person
Seriously though I actually have been doing strength training for the past 7 weeks and I am starting to feel it. Its really cool to know ive made some progress and I know I have a long road ahead of me but I will try to stay consistent
He's a thoughtful bloke who's got his priorities right, good on him
Alan Thrall is really one of the OG of the communityđȘđȘđȘ
One of the best videos from Greg, this deserves a standing ovation, telling you the dark side of PEDs, clearing your mind of what will happen if you start using it. Thank you, Greg, really, thank you.
average coach greg meat rider. i love the guy but watch alan's video instead
Too bad it gets no views. Problem is people only seem to watch my vids with the proper clickbait title.
This isnt true. Its a lie. I took gear and look and feel amazing. I still love going to the gym because im strong and i look better. Im more social, have a smoking hot gf and love to go out and take my shirt off and look good.
Its gatekeeping bullshit.
@@buuddha77 thatâs good to hear. Some of us can look and feel amazing and have a smoking hot gf without steroids, so each to their own.
@@theenforcer22 and some look better than you and have a hotter gf cause they are on gear. Pretty simple. If you've never done it, dont comment because you don't know.
Alan now runs making his training hybrid, this sometimes happens when someone reaches their initial training goals and require a boost from a different sport. I think it's great...I mean he's ex special forces for a start with an outstanding mindset.
He was a body bearer in the Marine Corps, as well as FAST. But not SF
@@UwUAnon Ah, I wasn't sure so went with what little I know about it all.
I wonder if he lost any of his strength when he cut his hair?
25% at least
Extremely solid advice from Alan. Young guys should listen up.
Alan will be that man in his 50s that will not be the biggest guy, but will be competing athletically with people in their 30s and 40s
I can't say enough good things about Alan Thrall's channel. Great videos on how to perform strongman exercises, compound free weight exercises, programming, dieting, and more in a no bullshit straight to the point manner.
My guy Alan Thrall is a hero of mine. Natty strength. Learned almost all my lifts watchimg his channel. But Greg fixed how i consumed calories. This video is golden for me
Greg might not have had a career unless he took steroids. He needed to get his IFBB card to gain a voice in the industry. I am 72 and started lifting 7 years ago. I am still making gains. The door to steroids is probably closed for me, but I have still not hit my strength potential. In those 7 years I have put 2 inches on my biceps (13 to 15), I bench 285, deadlift 320. I am trying to get my bench to 315. Its still really fun and I make gains. If I do plateau in strength then I will concentrate on body building with lighter weights. My goal then would not be strength but appearance.
If you can perform those lifts at 72 you're doing splendidly, sir!
Question, would you advise a 31 year old man who wants to start lifting, to take steroids ?
Man that impressive
That's awesome, I've seen some really unhealthy 60 years olds that can barely get outta bed. Deadlifting 320 at 72 is fucking metal
@@flonkas absolutely not. Noob gains come hard and fast. Adding steroids to that is a great way to tear tendons and other connective tissues. If your diet and training is on point you can make steady gains for several years without any ped use.
I'm 36. This year i habe finally joined the 1000lb club and managed to get a 110kg bench 150 squat and 215kg deadlift. I am natural, I will always be but my numbers will continue to go up. I am determined for that to happen and I train like I am 25. I cycle everywhere, work 2 jobs and gym whenever I can. There is always another level
I'm 43.. 170 bench 270 dl and 200 squat all natural, no protein or other supplements usually cause I keep forgetting... I'm still hitting prs... you still got way more potential... I see kids in the gym on the roids... just shake my head in disbelief...
Exactly 33 is not old. But prioroties do change.
I'm going to hop on PED's Greg. Im 306 days into my Bench Press Everyday journey and I don't have the patience anymore. KIDDING!!! IM NATURAL FOR LIFE AND WILL ACHIEVE MY GOALS NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES
Yeah okay
The clickbait titles are not cool. He literally says the exact opposite that your title says.
exactly
Alan Thrall is a great youtuber with a great message
I'm 100% in favor of older guys taking HRT to maintain their more youthful levels.
I don't get taking gear if the only reason is getting bigger. If you want to pursue bodybuilding, powerlifting, or strongman? Sure. (Or anything else where a maximum physique is critical to financial performance like acting or pro wrestler).
@Acceleration Quanta indeed
@Acceleration Quanta not always
So you can spend the PEAK years of your life looking like a cartoon character and absolutely loving every second of being in the gym. For most bodybuilders the gym is our only vice why torture your self when you could have such more fun. Its like saying I donât understand why people drink on nights out, you can still dance and laugh sober....yeh you can but its just not as good. I loved my time blasting and competing and wouldnât change it, came off everything gradually by 35 and still tram and look ok.
@@scottw3780 great point but my worries is health side effects in the future. I know dam well Iâm gonna be working out for the rest of my life. Iâm only 19 tho, the gym is my second home bro. Iâm just not sure how far my genetics will take me. Iâd love to hop on I just know there will come a point where I canât do it no more and my test will never be the same.
After Alan Roberts went off the deep end during Covid, CZcams needed another top tier Alan. Enter Alan Thrall, one of the best, realest out there.
Oh man I forgot about that guy. He got weird fast.
Unpopular opinion. Started steroids at 29 years of age and have zero regrets and would do them again if I could go back 18 years. Only thing I would have done different would have been to monitor my BP more when I was younger.
This is the right opinion. Idk how people are so scared to hop on itâs life changing
Fair play. Thatâs what was right for you and itâs your life and body, so itâs your business. I donât use them but Iâm surrounded by people in the gym who use them and where your opinion would be the more popular choice. I think the online opinion on steroids may not reflect the reality of what happens in proper weights gyms.
@@Wavyso People are brainwashed by feminism. This shit doesnt exist in eastern europe or saudi arabia, WAY more masculine men who arent afraid of androgens lol
@@Wavyso Personally, I think using PEDs is cheating yourself. Sure you still need to put in the work, but the results you get really are only possible because of that substance. I know I won't ever come close to the same levels of strength, or be able to achieve the same physique, but I know that every PR I hit was 100% from my own hard work. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash you for being on gear either. It's your choice to make and that doesn't concern me. I'm just trying to give perspective is all.
@@dylanfarley8136 at least be original if your gonna try to say something you sound like every other natty npc with your repeated talking points. Word of advice bro work on not being insecure and comparing yourself to people. You might not realize it but your indirectly trying to compare and compete against me for some reason in your comment due to your inferiority complex towards people on gear. Just focus on yourself essentially thatâs what the gym is all about.
Iâm like Alan! I never really saw the reasoning to take them since I donât have interest in competing. Also, once you stop, you lose a lot of what you gained. Not worth it
It's vanity. It's not much different than borrowing money to own a car you can't really afford.
Greg do a video on how to know if you have reached your genetic natural limit. Just general key points to consider when analysing one's own physique and strength
Youâve been the same lean weight when dieted down a few years in a row, you struggle to keep adding weight on most lifts without compromising form... itâs not rocket science
@@scottw3780 yeah cheers lad I'll go f myself then.
I feel like bodybuilders make videos just so Coach Greg can make a reaction video to it. And I'm all for it. Salute Coach Greg for his honesty and outlook on life and fitness!
Lol Coach Greg likes clickbait titles as well
Simp
Yea he does.
It's easy to say, but man the temptation is strong. 40 years old here. Almost a year of working out steady. 6', 180ish lbs, went from skinny in my 20s, to gradually getting skinny/ fat in my late 30s, to probably looking the best I ever have now... but it's never enough. LOL
1 year is not long, keep at it, at 3 years steady and working hard you will make amazing progress without steroids
I was thinking of taking trt when I turn 40 but once I start it's a life long commitment to taking it.
@Acceleration Quanta lol
At 6â you can definitely keep filling out your frame. Idk how lean you are but keep pushing.
Also to note. Taking Steroids is an expensive hobby. Not only bc of the drugs but also the blood tests that you SHOULD be doing to look at things.
Iâm pretty sure you have wayyyyyy more in the tank. Keep learning how to train with different styles and keep growing đ€đœ
@@avxrevo I'd guess 15-17% BF. Visible abs but still little love handles. LOL
nearly all drugs on the "hard drugs" list are less dangerous than alcohol, esp. LSD.
I completely agree with him staying natural. I think way more guys hop on the sauce than should. I even think TRT ought to be a last resort and that all other lifestyle trouble shooting ought to be exhausted first.
Steroids and PEDS feed into the instant gratification this generation constantly needs... hard work and discipline is all you need.
Wrong, that argument fails because steroids donât just get you somewhere faster, they get you to a place you CANT go to without. Therefore your âhard work is all you needâ doesnât work
Does Greg have an opinion on all these young teenagers taking MK-677, sarms and what not?
Keep it up Coach Greg you're doing the Lord's work. Keeping people safe.
Amen brother in Christ!
@@JessusChristHeals God Bless
Which lord is that?
I canât stop watching your videoâs coach Greg
Used to learn from thrall's videos..good teacher. Was expected a response from greg
As fun as steroids where there is nothing like living the rest of my life knowing that even on TRT I will never be as good as I once was. Don't use AAS kids, the psychological effects you live with after are not worth it.
Goated vid
Big fan of Alan.
Finding it pretty weird watching the clean cut Alan after years of watching Vikingur Alan though.
Hi Greg
I have errectile disfunction
Will broccoli help ?
what the fuck
Depends. I would use the organic for sure to help get that hardening effect.
@@antte7782 itâs a common question
Donât hate
Yes the broccoli makes your asparagus stiffen.
If you eat the stalks yes
Another great video, thanks coach Greg. You and Derek have turned me away from steroids. I realize I look good being Natty 200 with visible abs and obliques. I didn't realize how much steroid use effects you short term, and long term. I'm still far from my natural peak and have a good enough physique in the view of the average eye.
6 years and he has no potential left? đ I couldn't disagree more. There's guys making progress 10, 15, 20 years after training. Yes, natural ones. Progress is just smaller and happens at a much slower pace.
I also don't think Alan has maxed out his size yet as he comes from more of a powerlifting background instead a hypertrophy one. I'm sure if he focused exclusively on bodybuilding for a few years he could still get bigger and thus add more strength. There's definitely no need for him to take gear.
I agree. Alan definitely has more in the tank. He could've reached a 400 bench and a 600 squat and even a 700 DL if he was able to remain on course. But on top of being a gym owner he now has a family, so his regular form of training isn't easily within the cards for him, so I think he tells himself he reached his limit as a way of making peace with the nagging thoughts of "I could've done more." But overall I'm happy for him. It's not an easy mindset to adopt, but he still loves what he does even though it's not his true passion. He's made peace with it and that's what matters.
@@thebarbelllifestyle1478 Agreed, definitely a bit of cognitive dissonance going on. But yeah you gotta prioritize what's more important in the long run. He's happy and that's all that matters.
Heâs definitely been training more then 6 years. He was asked 6 years ago if he would consider taking PEDs. A guy like Alan might not be capped out but heâs getting close
The honest words here by Greg has officially made me a lifelong fan of Doucettes work. I will happily purchase his cookbook here in the next couple of months if, for nothing else, to support him and his much needed message and insight in the world of fitness.
A ton of ppl don't realize you can train for 20 years and still be a complete beginner / noob in the gym. As long as you're not training optimally with progressive overload and good form, the years you put in were mostly junk volume, no matter how hard you were going, killing yourself with multiple drop sets etc, you were still stuck as a beginner. if you were actually training properly since a teenager as a natural, you would peak between late 20's and early 30's.
respect greg. good on you for being honest.đŻ
Most Hallucinogens are actually not hard drugs, Greg.
LSD, DMT, Shrooms, all considered soft drugs like weed.
If you want to be a badass Muscle Monster, work hard while taking steroids. If you want to be Fit, work hard. Iâll take the latter. Good video Greg!
Mike o hearn is Greg's uninvited guestđ€Ł
Legit question, why do people insist or want to continue to pile on muscle? I mean some of us actually love the size we are and just like to maintain. Especially as I get older, I want to be in this sport for the long haul.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you love size wtf are you maintain ?
Hence ppl have different definitions of size
2nd Adonis complex/biggerexia
Not being a TOTAL narcissist, I'm happy completely avoiding steroids. I take vitamins & minerals, Omega 3, NMN, turkestrerone (for now), whey protein and creatine, and most people would think that's excessive enough. But what's worked most is changing my diet to one high in protein and I have a good weights and cardio regime. So, when I look in the mirror I know that I've made the changes myself, not because I've been helped by drugs that might kill me any day.
I wont take any kind of steroids/pds at least until I max my Natural Gains and maybe once I'm older and need the steroids to keep muscle
Iâm struggling with this myself. Iâm 38. Been lifting and training pretty consistently since high school. Iâve gotten my max bench press to 470 lbs. when I was 33. Now Iâm starting to notice small amounts of strength loss. Around 450 is my tops now.
500 has been my life long goal and I just donât think itâs ever going to happen unless I take steroids. I know possibly if I started a dedicated powerlifting routine or working on technique there is a small chance but Iâm just not sure
Anyways thatâs that . Iâm trying to find more comfort in focusing on my physique more instead of strength. Almost had a 6 pack this summer and got down to 225 lbs at 6ft tall. 16% body fat
Anyways thatâs my story Greg. Iâm sure you will tell me not to do it lol.
But are you training to increase your bench. Do you have a plan? Nothing happens without a plan.
@@rickdalbey6009 not at all times but yes Iâve tried a few things. Different rep schemes obviously. I have a slingshot Iâve used. Iâve done quite a few things with training. Something I think I screwed up on for years is that I was just on a bro split. One body part per day once per week. I did well this summer doing everything twice per week with less volume per workout. One light day and one heavy day. My lower ratio was the best itâs ever been so I think at a heavier bodyweight I could possibly hit 500 with this routine. I just donât like how I look at 250-260 which is the bodyweight I need to hit 500 in my opinion. Iâve also never fully transitioned into powerlifting technique. Elbows tucked. Slight arch etc. I just bench the basic way.
Injury almost always shuts me down near 500 as well. A shoulder or pec will start bothering me and I have to back off. Probably a technique issue as well. Iâm just to the point where Iâm just looking for the east way out. Do a cycle and hit 500. But I know it probably wonât end there .
@@ultrazls1 I love my slingshot. It protects my shoulders I wear it for my heavier working sets or PR attempts.I know what you are saying about the correlation between weight and strength. I was at my strongest at 240 lbs. But it was not heathy or attractive. So now I am 215 but training hard and starting rot hit numbers that I hit when I was heavier. To me, its all fun. Its an adventure. Since I am retired I have all the time in the world to devote to it. Troy, I would just clarify your goals and then do what is necessary to get there. Steroids and SARMS when used correctly are just another tool on the table.
You do realise that 450 bench puts you in a very small percentage of elite lifters in the world?
500lb for roids and risk your health? And even then its not guaranteed....Nah no way. 470 is elite even if on roids.
@@smdnsnnd7254 Thanks. I mostly agree thats why i havent done it yet.
For myself and I think most people tempted to try is simply to look better without a shirt on. I've been training hard for 13 years now, got a decent amount of muscle but a saggy chest. I could get surgery but scar pretty easily and don't heal well so something that would help put a little extra muscle on and help burn a little extra fat I feel would take me to a level where'd I'd feel good with my shirt off which would legitimately make me happier in life. I've been working hard creating something for over a decade, it'd feel good to show it off and feel great about it.
another day another greg doucette videos thank you greg
i wanna do it just to see what happens lol...as someone that has been a college athlete and enjoyed lifting consistently for 25 years. maybe not change anything to my diet or workout routine and see what they do to my physique and strength levels...look full in a tshirt, get more vascular.....maybe light like test and primo...the problem is that I will probably like it too much lol...
as long as you're improving
Giving it your all
Be proud
Be happy
- Greg Doucette
Alan is actually sensitive to coffee (caffiene) hence he has it drastically reduced, not that he is paranoid about his health
Catching me off guard greg im in school
Dr. Coach Greg and The Office⊠Does it get any better??? Great job as always Dr. Coach Greg!!! Love ya brother!!!
I started lifting a year ago at 35. I feel like I missed out. Should I take peds to gain musle?
nope if you just want to only gain muscle. just workout hard and heavy and your newbie gains will come in crazy. bench, squat, deadlift, rows, pullups, will get you crazy
Victor Black has a very good take on PEDs, also hes probably the only person you should listen to for PED usage as every good coach now a days are intentionally or unintentionally stealing his methods. Essentially you shouldn't touch them until you have a complete understanding on how you eat, Over-the-counter supplements, and fitness. This takes years. I think the argument that you shouldn't take them until you're at your genetic limit is flawed, this can take decades and by the time you reach it you'll have to be much more careful in your dosages and so forth. A 22 year old can get away with more than a 38 year old.
So the answer is no, you need to spend some years turning this hobby into a craft and lifestyle.
Not at all you still will gain muscle at 35 just work hard. If you take PEDs without knowing how to work out hard you will have 0 gains and all the side effects
Train for atleast 5 years before you hop on anything let your own body make progress on its own before you supplement it.
I was a severe drug addict (heroin, meth, benzos, etc.) and have been sober for a few years. I really want to use testosterone for the feel, energy, improvement in fitness (I've lifted/been into fitness all of my life), for the feel of injecting test, curiosity, and to be able to recover faster from workouts. I've been very interested in it lately, I'm 25.
But I never wanted to be enormously ripped, my ideal physique is one that can be obtained naturally. Any physique that can't be obtained naturally is one that is too muscular for my ideal. So there's no point in sacrificing my health, which is one of the main reasons I lift. I also am terrified of losing my hair. In runs in my family and I can't tell but my hair might be thinning already.
I might do a couple small, low dose test cycles after I get off methadone in a couple years. But I have no interest in blasting
You have a personality prone to addiction. Be careful dude
Lean and natty yes but not exceptional tough
One question, and not being facetious. Iâm genuinely curious to Coachâs recording process and schedule: Why do some videos have Coach with longer hair and some videos have his head shaved?
Are you picking topics way ahead and recording them back to back?
I was looking into testosterone for managing UC a while back and the studies looked promising.
Lmk who your doctor ends up being
When I was on testosterone (even on 160 mg TRT) my digestion and stomach pain was much better. The only reason Iâm not on test now is because I had this annoying urge to be competitive with everybody over everything while on it. That was an unsatisfying state of mind to be in.
@@oliver6287 I'll need to find a doctor outside of Canada because they're really strict here. Even if the studies show conclusive evidence that it works they won't prescribe TRT. Even if you're at the lowest end of the "normal" reference range.
@@morrowcosom early on, when I was first diagnosed, I spoke to my gastroenterologist about it and sent him a few different studies. He just brushed it aside.
This is completely off topic but since you do a lot of biking I figured you were the right person to ask⊠how do I keep my hamstrings from spasming at night? I tend to use a stationary bike while catching up on emails and other such things daily for about 90-120min. Moderate intensity steady state. I foam roll daily, use a full spectrum infrared sauna daily, and replenish with electrolytes. But my hamstrings still always feel a little crampy. Will that just subside over time? Iâve been doing this for about a year now since my left hip got replaced. I have ehlers danlos syndrome, a genetic degenerative joint disease, but my time and intensity have increased by 50% in the last couple of months as I have gotten stronger and healthier. TIA.
ED isn't just joint related, it includes all connective tissue too. Keep the electrolytes going, magnesium is the 'anti cramp' supplement and is best taken orally whilst enjoying an Epsom Salts bath a few days per week to allow the skin to absorb it without stomach issues.
Hips and upper legs, along with glutes and lower back are intertwined with cross over patterns from connective tissues, muscles and tendons. Although stretching is great for most people, for those with ED it can be tricky due to the over elastic nature stemming from collagen loss.
Gentle yoga type exercises, weight training and cardio will hopefully help strengthen your body....but reducing bike time taking pressure off connective tissue and building muscle could be more beneficial.
P.s... I don't think deadlifting 1RM is the way to go by the way in the case of strength training but the most common rep and set range for hypertrophy would be ideal.
@@sansiveria578 I am impressed with your knowledge of EDS. I am quite aware of everything you wrote.
I supplement magnesium, Redmondâs real salt and trace minerals throughout the day. I have very low level POTS which I manage well but very high level global hyper mobility.
I do full body weight training 3x/week. 8-12 reps. Trying to build functional strength, not trying to break any body building/strength records here. Lol.
I also do physical therapy daily at home and 2x/week with a therapist.
On the days I am not strength straining I am doing functional strength and functional mobility type workouts, core stability, joint stabilization, and foam rolling. I donât stretch. It is not possible for me to stretch because of my laxity. Hence a massage chair, foam roller, lacross balls, IR Sauna are my best friends.
I do a dairy free carnivore way of eating to manage my chronic inflammation and pain. For 20 years I was on 300mg/day of oxycodone and at times a cocktail of opioids to manage daytime pain and then for 5 years a sedative to sleep through night time pain. I will be celebrating 5 years off narcotics and sedatives next month thanks to my dairy free high fat carnivore diet.
Can I ask how it is that you know so much about EDS?
I reach a plato at 24 been traing since 16 but now at 35 after years of not gainig I am growing again naturally....not massive amounts but went from 16in arms to 17
Greg man your Chanel is awesome man
I still remember everyone using his bench press video as the guide good times
Some people, like myself, don't get the same results from creatine suppliments when they use caffeine. Maybe Alan Thrall is the same way? I know if I stop drinking coffeee for a couple weeks my lifts go up. I'm 43 and when I stop using caffeine I can hit close the same weights as when I was in my 30s. I'm not sure if I had the same sensititvity when I was younger but I can't help but think of the money I wasted using pre-workout powder that is at best a wash now. I'd rather just take the creatine powder and save some cash for other things.
Nice vid. I like how you included Alan with a funny face in the thumbnail lol.
Alan Thrall once said how caffeine gave him real bad headaches or something. Took him a while to figure out the cause of the headaches. So that's probably why he doesn't drink energy drinks anymore.
A bit off topic here but i wouldn't consider LSD to be a "hard drug" because it's really not that addictive like the other ones, you're supposed to use it sparingly so that way it's not toxic and well depending on how you learn from these trips and how good you are at integrating your expiriences the effects of LSD can be life long, it can totally push you to become a better person if used right, but i gotta say mentally it can be damaging if not handled correctly.
Glad to know this is a what full natural bodybuilding looks like
I love coach Greg, thank you for doing this.
LSD and ecstasy are safer to use than steroids, simply because you do not really use LSD nor ecstasy every day, needs much more time for side effects to come
hi greg, can you please make a video about how to make eating "healthy" for a lifestyle and not a diet ( how to control calories i guess?)
I don't know how much better I am gonna get, but the gear is not for me. It took me a while to get my eating down....but I also started lifting late in life. I am 44 and this year is the first year I have gotten my nutrition down and have actually made gains in the gym and changed my physique. Not trying to lift massive amounts of weight, doin' up the long game and being careful as I have had shoulder and knee injuries. It's been fun and I really enjoy looking in the mirror and being happy with my physique and being healthier than before!
@@Farquad76.547 Odd. I am 41. Never been on gear and refuse to take TRT. I laugh at all the guys my age bragging about being on TRT. "Uh, that's all you got out of it?"
@@Farquad76.547 LOL dude. Lifting raises testosterone, red meat raises it, sprints, plenty of other things. Just because most 40+ men are fat soft boi's who need TRT doesn't mean those who take care of themselves do.
Honestly 'hard drugs' is a terrible label. Most psychedelics are not dangerous at all, physically. You can do shrooms until the end of time and you still wouldnt die of them, just to give an example. Could your latent psychosis flare up and get you into trouble? Yes of course. But just stating that hard drugs is a ballony label.
Videos like this are very helpful for guys like me who sometimes thinking about taking PEDs. Its just not worth it
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Alan is the natty version of jujimufu
The problem here is the question - knowing your true genetic potential is necessarily a retrospective act. The too common assumptions of bodybuilding potential would never have seen Arnold or Dorian compete and win. Genetics are crucial - undoubtedly - but as Dorian remarked on Haney's back - he was (likely) born with it - I worked for mine.
Few people live to train, I train to live.
Hi Coach Greg, I just received your EDCY, 3 bottles. when is the best times to take it ? How did you take it ?
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Completely misleading title. Incredible lowball move Greg, disappointing you're bending to the algorithm. Integrity is hard to come by in this scene and you used to have it.
facts. i like what he has to say once most of the time but his thumbnails and titles are doing too much
@@djnibber Wasn't like this when I first started watching his stuff and it's frustrating to see him go this low because he makes fantastic stuff. God damn algorithms.
Great video, very thought provoking
What about steroid use once you become older?
Probably would be wise to consult your doctor but my reasoning is that if a person's body is deterioriating then wouldnt steroid use be good for that individual?
Glad you are dialing in your TRT as best as you can. I'm still in the process. Could I do more? I don't know but I sure don't want to be a small cycle dose. I do need to dial in my frequency and I need to drop fat so I don't aromatize as much.
Whats crazy for me is that i aromatize much less when i get fatter lmao
I got some disagreement with maxing out gains at 30 or 35. I got locked up lost all my roid gains (before that I was on the kitchen sink for over 6 years of ridiculous mega doses) and at at 46 years old didn't know it was possible to gain muscle naturally.
But I have to tell, that inside world is thousands and thousands of reps. Lots of sugar/snack cakes. You would be a mega fat ass with that. These were mostly calisthenic routines but we used water weights bags and mops handles and used people's weights. Still it was body weight dominant. And protein? It was shit and very little comparatively so.
But it wasn't just me. Lots of guys grew big.
I believe it was super glycogen over compensation.
When I get out and finally get to my weights and a regular workout routine I slowly lost a lotta strength and started losing my look because I look super jacked on no roids and no fucking protein to speak of. Like maybe 60 70 grams day
But I don't think in numbers of how much I can lift. Igaf what my bench or anything else is.
One the thing there were guys long time and lifers in their mid to late 60's that were the same way.
A typical day was get up 500 pushups, 500 body squats, 500 situps, 500 pullups, breakfast, sleep the same routine before lunch and dinner. Later same thing as the notion hit. I got to where popping off a thousand straight pushups and 500 pullups wasn't shit. I took in a fuck ton of carbs.
No. You don't max out at 25 or 35. That why when I got after after discovering the real world it was impractical to do that routine cuz I had a life to live and watching myself lose my physique.
But if I get obtain that physique with a lower testosterone shit food and horrible living conditions that I could do miracles with just a little bit of juice I figured. And I did.
Now what I do agree on cuz I get sick and fucking tired of these people and these kids that the first day they pick up a weight they think they have to be on fucking steroids for some type of PE.
And if they don't take any juice or any enhancement drug they don't work out.
So one of my beliefs is also and I suppose coach Greg will rip me to shreds cuz I'm not educated like him is that your exercising your slow twitch muscle and you're causing them to hypertrophy so you're not tearing down muscle the same as you would so you can get quite a bit out of a shit ton of reps and even gained strength out of it because you're not tearing down tissue like when you actually lift weights with your fast twitch fibers.
I don't know all the fucking science all I know was and is I've been trained since I've been 12 years old in all conditions and I learned that being inside not even thinking it was possible. I didn't touch juice till 35 to 40. A few years break the everything max quantity. Untill about 45. I also sired two kids and NEVER during that whole time of juicing ever used HCG or any type of PCT bullshit. Of course they never really came off but still. I wasn't susceptible to ball shrinking I don't know why but they just didn't drink no matter how much shit I took.
my top fitness/weightlifting youtubers: alan thrall, coach greg, cbum.
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Thank you Greg.
Great talk Coach ,,learned alot
You havenât even finished watching the video yet
Greg, if you haven't already, react to what Mark Bell in that original video said about steroids. He said they don't make much difference or something to that effect.
I just realized allan, matt walsh, and plagueofgripes all sound almost the same
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I don't believe he's maxed his potential for muscle mass. Look at his quads in this video: if he did bodybuilding leg work for the next year, dialed back the strongman/powerlifting stuff, he wouldn't have bigger quads? I don't believe it.
I love the â Iâve trained since Iâm 10 and Iâm still making gains at 40â comments. Yet this isnât played out in natural bodybuilding anywhere. Once those lads have filled out the weight barely changes year after year, maybe by a lb or two.