This is a single cylinder F1 engine - 20,000rpm, 300cc, 90bhp!

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  • čas přidán 25. 12. 2021
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    V6 engines dominate Formula 1 right now, and the smallest F1 engines have ever really gone is four-cylinders. But Mike Fernie has had Cosworth digging around in their storage units to find not a triple, or a twin, but a SINGLE cylinder F1 mule engine, used to create the glorious 3.0-litre V10s of the early-2000s. Imagine what this thing would have sounded like at 20,000rpm!
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  • @Drivetribe
    @Drivetribe  Před 2 lety +165

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    • @zensamurai6582
      @zensamurai6582 Před 2 lety +17

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    • @KenanTurkiye
      @KenanTurkiye Před 2 lety +3

      0:37 ''these are very special little things''
      I accept they are special, but one can get more hp from a rotary in a smaller package.
      Than again I have rotary engine (RE) bias.....braaaaaap. :)

    • @patrick9316
      @patrick9316 Před 2 lety +1

      Tell them what's money. Let's go have some fun.

    • @JustAlanJohn
      @JustAlanJohn Před 2 lety

      @@zensamurai6582 Oh don't forget the clothing "Guess Originals"

    • @dyslectische
      @dyslectische Před 2 lety +2

      For your Opel Kadet .
      Go use a fiat 900cc 2 cylinder with 90 horsepower .
      If you look for a smal engine .
      Its use in the fiat panda cross.

  • @Leon-vp3vb
    @Leon-vp3vb Před 2 lety +4654

    That single cylinder 300cc, 90bhp, engine needs to go in a motorcycle!

    • @mrmedium7984
      @mrmedium7984 Před 2 lety +355

      It will not work as the interta of the engine would affect the handling

    • @MyHandleIsGood
      @MyHandleIsGood Před 2 lety +294

      Exactly what I was thinking. It actually reminded me a bit of the single cylinder KTM bikes, especially the 390 Duke.

    • @derf9465
      @derf9465 Před 2 lety +341

      When aprilia was racing 250cc two strokes they were hitting 90 hp on the race track In the hands of valentino Rossi. Regarding vibration, wouldnt a balancing shaft do the job, like whats fitted In many motorcycle engines.

    • @r3dn3k97
      @r3dn3k97 Před 2 lety +128

      @@derf9465most modern race replica bikes (CBR, gsx, exc.) Have balance shafts, when you have any kind of unbalance at 15k it needs to be cancelled out or you would shake the bike to bits. I don't know if any singles have balance shafts, I think most of them do some crank shaft magic to cancel out any vibration

    • @vnsworkshop9961
      @vnsworkshop9961 Před 2 lety +45

      It van run at least 250 km then you need to dusassembly and check all.
      Andrea pneumatic valves starting loosing air pressure, pistoni start to open in half and con rod are near to broken.
      This was f1 in v10 era.

  • @damienlee1165
    @damienlee1165 Před 2 lety +1663

    I always thought the Italians would be the last ones to keep the v12 torch burning. Love to see the folks at cozzie still care aswell.

    • @abarratt8869
      @abarratt8869 Před 2 lety +60

      And doing so whilst keeping within current emissions limits. Pretty significant achievement in an NA engine capable of 1000hp (or 640-ish for Gordon Murray's).

    • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
      @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Před 2 lety +19

      Am I the only person who reads “Cozzie” as “Coz-eh”?

    • @louisgreenleaf235
      @louisgreenleaf235 Před 2 lety +7

      @@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 it’s spelt cossie no z in cosworth

    • @bobbythompson3544
      @bobbythompson3544 Před 2 lety +2

      They aren’t!

    • @Retrofordguy
      @Retrofordguy Před 2 lety +1

      @@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 snap not a cossie it's a coz eh

  • @dellstudio10
    @dellstudio10 Před 2 lety +317

    20k RPM. That’s over 333 rotations a second. Insanely fast!

    • @BlueRice
      @BlueRice Před rokem +10

      Yeah... that's why all high reving engine sound so nice

    • @testymann5045
      @testymann5045 Před rokem

      You wouldn't want that blowing up between your legs. 😅

    • @dennisrobinson8008
      @dennisrobinson8008 Před rokem +5

      like a musical instrument

    • @frankrommerts8447
      @frankrommerts8447 Před rokem +3

      The rotations aren't the limiting factor here, the limiting factor is piston speed combined with conrod/piston mass.

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 Před rokem +3

      Unreliable

  • @ISSTI371
    @ISSTI371 Před 2 lety +48

    Massive props to Cosworth for giving you guys all this behind the scenes access

  • @ATLRIOT
    @ATLRIOT Před 2 lety +813

    That guy from Cosworth was great on camera. More of him, and there history please!

  • @KingEddo8
    @KingEddo8 Před 2 lety +1675

    Cosworth never ceases to amaze me. They are absolute geniuses!

    • @davidmccarthy6061
      @davidmccarthy6061 Před 2 lety

      Legendary!

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 Před 2 lety +6

      Will they survive the electrification of the world tho?

    • @KingEddo8
      @KingEddo8 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheEryk03 They're already doing hybrids and fully electric engines so I would think so.

    • @MrRugbylane
      @MrRugbylane Před 2 lety +22

      @@TheEryk03 Cosworth will be fine. Will the World survive electrification is the question.

    • @sonofplato
      @sonofplato Před 2 lety

      In fairness they are in the main but have had some pretty dismal forrays into some road car projects as they we're unable to develop software to work with hardware they produced. Other companies picked the failures up and made them excellent.

  • @Zorro9129
    @Zorro9129 Před 2 lety +546

    The fact that 12-cylinder engines are considered as belonging to a different time is a travesty.

    • @ConGie
      @ConGie Před 2 lety +66

      Well, when you've got 6 cylinder naturally aspirated cars making what old v8s made and v8s with turbos making far above what a 12 can, what's the point? They are a waste now, as beautiful as they sound and as smooth as they run, they are obsolete in a sense.

    • @hondaservicecenter
      @hondaservicecenter Před 2 lety +5

      Not a different time just a differnet class

    • @WojciechP915
      @WojciechP915 Před 2 lety +20

      You are wrong and I will explain why. You can get high power numbers out of a small engine, but if you have a lower rpm, higher torque application, this necessitates a gearbox that adds weight. At a certain point, your small high rpm motor needs a gearbox so heavy that the specific power output of a multicylinder engine is better, since the multicylinder does not need a gearbox.

    • @davidspendlove5900
      @davidspendlove5900 Před 2 lety

      Legacy technology.

    • @LanaaAmor
      @LanaaAmor Před 2 lety +9

      @@ConGie A V6 or I6 can easily do the job these days. Not to mention luxury car manufacturers are eyeing on EV tech

  • @gabrielhoy6790
    @gabrielhoy6790 Před 2 lety +26

    This single cylinder truly is "The Little Engine that Could".

  • @hussamjamil4980
    @hussamjamil4980 Před 2 lety +854

    We need those 3 cylidners fitted to smaller cars, smaller production cars......can you imagine?

    • @whitewalker9622
      @whitewalker9622 Před 2 lety +23

      oH Yes PLEASE!!!

    • @PixelisedPaul
      @PixelisedPaul Před 2 lety +183

      Yes, they'd need an expensive service every 5000 miles.

    • @Grover91
      @Grover91 Před 2 lety +61

      Absolutely. Imagine a hot super mini with one of those under the bonnet?!?!

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 Před 2 lety +28

      Az-1 has entered the chat

    • @hussamjamil4980
      @hussamjamil4980 Před 2 lety +29

      @@PixelisedPaul Hence why i said in PRODUCTION cars, they will no way live long with 20K rpms.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 Před 2 lety +82

    Back during WW2, Rolls-Royce and Ricardo developed the Merlin and Griffon engines using V twin and single cylinder test mules. Merlins were known to throw con rods at high revs. But the test mules never did. It was eventually realised the test V-twins used the full size oil pump - no worries. The pump was too small to feed the V12. Bigger oil pump and no more thrown con rods.

    • @benjy6358
      @benjy6358 Před rokem +1

      thank you for the information !

    • @TheHarryMann
      @TheHarryMann Před 4 měsíci +1

      Not forgetting Ricardo’s single and V twin Sleeve valve 2 strokes used during RR Crecy development, giving incredible bhp/litre figures for the day and equally high HP/Lb weight figures

  • @chloehennessey6813
    @chloehennessey6813 Před rokem +8

    That single cylinder engine is pretty cool! I used to run junior dragsters and when you first start out you get a single cylinder engine. It’s a Craws Racing 3 1/2”.
    I’ve done 280 passes on the engine. It’s roughly 70 HP. Seeing 90 out of a single cylinder isn’t very hard. What’s hard is making it last at that amount- and making it economically viable.

  • @russbilzing5348
    @russbilzing5348 Před 2 lety +7

    I can't help but remember the Cosworth V-6 Vega engine which was then turned into a 3 cylinder 850cc motorcycle engine for the German Police.. An incredible piece of engineering.

    • @TheLaXandro
      @TheLaXandro Před rokem

      I've never heard of this and now I'm curious.

  • @ironhead9507
    @ironhead9507 Před 2 lety +438

    That single cylinder would make one heck of a go kart engine

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Před 2 lety +29

      Not with a 100 pound transmission to for the enormous gear reduction.

    • @Gean...de...Oliveira
      @Gean...de...Oliveira Před 2 lety +22

      I actually don't think so.
      In Karting we have 125 and 175cc 2-stroke engines with up to 50HP.
      Most classes usually have around 30HP but that's not a problem when the engines weights less than 15Kg.
      I think modern Kart engines don't rev more than 16.000rpm.
      BUT, in a straight line, maybe it would be fast.

    • @Gean...de...Oliveira
      @Gean...de...Oliveira Před 2 lety +21

      @@TucsonDude
      He said 20.000rpm. Not 200.000rpm.
      👍😅

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gean...de...Oliveira Nah. Regular go-cart engines run under 4000 rpm. Running at 20,000 rpm would require five times the gear teeth on the input gear...hence it would be significantly bigger.

    • @Gean...de...Oliveira
      @Gean...de...Oliveira Před 2 lety +27

      @@TucsonDude
      You are talking about rental karts, right ?
      Because a proper racing kart usually rev up to 16.000rpm.

  • @robertgirdwood1801
    @robertgirdwood1801 Před 2 lety +344

    Now to put this in a 2022 crf 450 frame 👌

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad Před 2 lety +41

      How about a Coswroth 3 cylinder in a Triumph Rocket 3?

    • @crnkin2
      @crnkin2 Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @RubyS.1
      @RubyS.1 Před 2 lety +2

      Please

    • @RTS1980
      @RTS1980 Před 2 lety +4

      Pointless.

    • @robertgirdwood1801
      @robertgirdwood1801 Před 2 lety +48

      Ross your negative attitude is pointless

  • @myusernameblows
    @myusernameblows Před 2 lety +2

    Another really awesome in-depth video. The animations help a lot. Please keep these coming!

  • @petertennant6135
    @petertennant6135 Před rokem +1

    Hello mate, I'm Pete (diesel mechanic & enthusiast) just watching your vid and thought I'd add that while working for Scania Truck & Bus I had the opportunity to visit Scania's R&D department in Sodertalje, Sweden and was exposed the concept of creating 1 cylinder "mule" engines as part of the Proof of Concept phase of developing new engines &/or fuel systems. Before then I had no idea of that part of the process!!
    Nice work on your vids!
    Cheers,
    Pete (Melb, Australia)

  • @lawnmowerdude
    @lawnmowerdude Před 2 lety +77

    I’ve always wanted to see a single cylinder version of a full size vehicle engine.

  • @MyWatchIsEnded
    @MyWatchIsEnded Před 2 lety +65

    So when is cosworth going to add one of their 3 cylinder engines into a Mitsubishi mirage?

    • @ikhoonyejelem2967
      @ikhoonyejelem2967 Před 2 lety +10

      That would probably triple the msrp

    • @MyWatchIsEnded
      @MyWatchIsEnded Před 2 lety +8

      @@ikhoonyejelem2967 sounds like a cheap supercar lol

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham Před 2 lety +3

      newest hot hatch material. would honestly be hilarious to see such a piece of junk like a mirage with such an expensive and powerful engine in it xD

    • @johannesdatblue4164
      @johannesdatblue4164 Před 2 měsíci

      Before i put my life and trust into the soda csn lf mirage, i would rather drive an actual soda can, bicycle or a box of 20 beers with an engine.
      No way i step in suxh a small car. That engine makes the car spin around it 😂😂

  • @RalphEllis
    @RalphEllis Před 2 lety +6

    Napier engines did the same when designing the Sabre sleeve-valve,
    they started with two cylinders, before moving onto 24.
    R

  • @deadseriousforsure6242
    @deadseriousforsure6242 Před 2 lety +8

    Please have Mr. Bruce more on your channel, he is such a brilliant guy. We would love to hear more about the Cosworth history, and it would be nice if you could get even more tehnical and in depth. Great episode!

  • @benjaminmann8028
    @benjaminmann8028 Před 2 lety +84

    So you’re telling me they could make 1/4 size genuine Aston martins for children and they don’t?

    • @TokenTombstone
      @TokenTombstone Před 2 lety +3

      Children don't have money.

    • @andrewholdaway813
      @andrewholdaway813 Před 2 lety +7

      @@TokenTombstone
      But what multi millionaire parent _doesn't_ want their child to have an Aston just like theirs?

    • @nl3712
      @nl3712 Před 2 lety

      Aston Martini’s?

  • @TheGardenSnake
    @TheGardenSnake Před 2 lety +196

    Can I send my CRF300L engine to them 😂

    • @TeamToast
      @TeamToast Před 2 lety +29

      Just do an Alan millyard and weld 3 engines together in your garage

    • @hardergamer
      @hardergamer Před 2 lety +9

      Low pressure electric turbo, and a thinker metal head gasket, and you have 60bhp no problem, I did it on a XR650, and it was much quicker than my R6 up to 70mph ish. :)

    • @billbergen9169
      @billbergen9169 Před 2 lety +2

      @@hardergamer leaf blower?

    • @fewik8567
      @fewik8567 Před 2 lety +4

      @@billbergen9169might as well stay aspirated, turbos hit upwards of 130k rpm to get the boost they offer, a leaf blower wouldn't hit half that, might work but people aren't doing it already so it's probably not going to work

    • @stephenbinkley
      @stephenbinkley Před 2 lety

      when the crf beats fz

  • @jasonehall1
    @jasonehall1 Před 2 lety +2

    Cant deny it, in an age and era of so much other madness going on in the world, stumbled across this from a subscription waaaaaay back and popped up for me to watch today.
    What an absolutely lovely vid.
    Reminded me of some other passions I used to have in life.
    I am going to try to use as as a bit more of a platform to concentrate on more positive things in the coming year.
    Thanks sooooo much.🙂🙂🙂

  • @brianzaborowski2724
    @brianzaborowski2724 Před 2 lety +3

    I put one of these on my lawnmower, what a life saver. Now I can cut all the yards in my whole neighborhood faster than I used to do my own. Same goes for my snowblower in the off season. Great little workhorse!

    • @johndavenport1894
      @johndavenport1894 Před 2 lety

      You too? Thought I was the only one. I also fitted one a pressure washed. Cleaned the house off, alright... righf off the foundation! XD

  • @Arsenic71
    @Arsenic71 Před 2 lety +44

    So the 1-cyl engine is essentially for a Kei car. Or actually, even a 2-cyl incarnation would still fit the 600ccm Kei car limit 😂😁 Send it to MCM 😋

  • @limpet7r63
    @limpet7r63 Před 2 lety +214

    Its an amazing thing, but as the Cosworth guy said, it would be pretty hopeless as a road car engine. Nothing that revs to 20,000 RPM is going to any useful work at less than 10,000 and will probably need 15,000 before it properly wakes up. Which is fine in a race, but a complete pain in the backside on the commute or going down the shops. In a road car it would be lumpy, gutless, and generally horrible.

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Před 2 lety +26

      I believe they also idle at 5000 rpm.

    • @shakehandswithdanger7882
      @shakehandswithdanger7882 Před 2 lety +9

      Probably not bad in a sport motorcycle, the lack of low end torque is fine, the packaging looks like a problem.....

    • @Saftkeur
      @Saftkeur Před 2 lety +14

      Honda CBR250RR revs to 20,000, and that's a production street bike from the late 80s. Probably would not enjoy trying to push even a small car like Oliver around, but there *have* been successful conversions to put motorcycle engines in cars, so perhaps Oliver's dreams of revving higher than an F1 car could someday be reality... :D

    • @JakeM218
      @JakeM218 Před 2 lety +7

      That’s why these would be amazing in a hybrid setup.

    • @mannyechaluce3814
      @mannyechaluce3814 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JakeM218 come to think of it, have the EV part be the starter motor, then the engine can kick in later :D

  • @incorrectbeans
    @incorrectbeans Před 2 lety +3

    Drivetribe: "Single cylinders, historically, sound horrendous."
    Norton Manx: "Am I nothing to you?"

  • @StefsEngineering
    @StefsEngineering Před 2 lety +23

    My compliments to both of you! Interesting subjects, clear and engaging presentation, and all that free on youtube! I wish normal TV programs would come close to this level op quality. Unfortunately that is very hard to find.
    Also thanks to Mr Wood for sharing his knowledge!

    • @drummerdoingstuff5020
      @drummerdoingstuff5020 Před rokem

      Why when we already got it here? Why do people still desire to pay for something they aren’t happy with and you just said it yourself, you wish normal tv programs were like this, it’d not hard to find buddy it’s called CZcams!

  • @tobiasschanner5449
    @tobiasschanner5449 Před 2 lety +309

    That's an engine that would fit in a miata without problems 🙂

    • @iyzyz
      @iyzyz Před 2 lety +47

      Man that 250hp 3 cylinder engine in a Miata is the stuff of dreams!

    • @Schmorgus
      @Schmorgus Před 2 lety +20

      It would probably make the Miata look like a Japanese splatter gore movie seconds after turning the key.

    • @Matt_10203
      @Matt_10203 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Schmorgus yeah but….. do it for the science

    • @Schmorgus
      @Schmorgus Před 2 lety +11

      @@Matt_10203 Oh, I never said "don't do it" 😏

    • @vaibhavdabwalv1
      @vaibhavdabwalv1 Před 2 lety +4

      Why not just use LS

  • @ZeeBri
    @ZeeBri Před 2 lety +197

    interesting they never mention the inherent imbalance of the 3 and single cylinders. presumably the triple would need a balance shaft where as the V12 ultimately would not

    • @mry82
      @mry82 Před 2 lety +19

      I was wondering about that as well. Maybe they don't worry about the imbalance on the test mules... Go see if Driving 4 Answers will do a video for us!

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 Před 2 lety +23

      Depends if you're talking about primary or secondary balance. There is a lot more involved when you start spinning things at that kind of rpm so they have 100% sorted it out one way or another.

    • @donaldasayers
      @donaldasayers Před 2 lety +5

      My little C1/Aygo/107 1.0l engine revs to 6K and has no balance shaft. In some ways four cylinder inline engines have just as great vibration problems and quite a few have had to use balance shafts.

    • @tomdiskin8090
      @tomdiskin8090 Před 2 lety +4

      Single cylinder work is usually only really useful for things like head and combustion chamber work

    • @LurifaxDK
      @LurifaxDK Před 2 lety +9

      If its designed as 120degrees pr piston balancing wouldnt be an issue i suppose. The 1 cylinder would most definately need a balance shaft, maybe thats why the engine is so big for such a small cylinder.

  • @DavidSiebert
    @DavidSiebert Před 2 lety +5

    What is funny is that during the days of high-power piston aircraft engines they often made single-cylinder test mules.

    • @quinnobi42
      @quinnobi42 Před rokem

      In the modern day of computer simulation, it's almost a certainty that they don't do wild prototypes like that. Kind of too bad.

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 Před 2 lety +8

    They should sell the 3 cylinders as crate motors. Imagine people stuffing them in miatas, MGs, and caterhams

  • @scooby06sti
    @scooby06sti Před 2 lety +35

    This reminds me of when the Japanese motorbike manufacturers were fitting 250cc 4 cylinder engines that would rev to 20krpm back in the earls 90's.

    • @ajiechairulramadhan2275
      @ajiechairulramadhan2275 Před 2 lety +7

      They are back at it again, look at ZX25r. Well at least kawasaki is.

    • @Schluker
      @Schluker Před 2 lety

      @Troy Mclore I doubt you will be able to make it road legal… sad, sad green world we live in..

    • @philipgrice1026
      @philipgrice1026 Před 2 lety +2

      The Honda 250 cc six cylinder bike that Mike Hailwood rode to a world championship would rev to 26,000 rpm on the bench. I raced 50 cc motorcycles that revved to 16,000 rpm and had no power below 14,000. Even with a nine speed gearbox the clutch took some stick starting and at tight corners like the Mallory Park hairpin. Great noise though!

    • @n2n8sda
      @n2n8sda Před 2 lety +1

      @@waynepantry7023 I had one of those many years ago... it was fun when I was young but it did get tiresome very quickly... just sitting in highway traffic in 6th gear and its still doing 9000rpm+, great for low speed high rpm flybys and tunnels and surprisingly reliable considering how high it revved.

    • @n2n8sda
      @n2n8sda Před 2 lety

      @@philipgrice1026 Yes! Shame the FIM limited cylinders and gears from 1968 (some say it was to allow European manufactures to remain competitive).. .Suzuki had a 3 cylinder 50cc with 14 gears RP68 ready but were not allowed to race it... very much like Hailwoods Honda 6 250, it would have been useless on the street... ultra narrow powerband with gear changes needed constantly to keep it in the power... still wonderful engineering.

  • @YearsOfLeadPoisoning
    @YearsOfLeadPoisoning Před 2 lety +22

    More technical content like this! Fascinating stuff

  • @Tahoe58
    @Tahoe58 Před 2 lety +5

    A Mechanical Symphony in its finest forms ... thank you for sharing. Simply fabulous!

  • @lewistasso8866
    @lewistasso8866 Před 2 lety +21

    Now, THIS IS THE STUFF!! I don't care anymore about seeing 8-liter engines with 1,000+ hp in a production car. Big deal. I want to see 3 or 4-cylinder, 1 to 1.5-liter engines that produce 200 - 300+ hp, "normally aspirated" engines in production cars. THAT would be impressive!

    • @danielp.9493
      @danielp.9493 Před rokem

      I also agree whole heartily!

    • @leenderonde8723
      @leenderonde8723 Před rokem

      Take a motorcycle engine and put it in a car. Naturally aspirated, 1000cc four cylinder. 200-250hp sometimes 300. And high revs.

  • @dukiemoto8676
    @dukiemoto8676 Před 2 lety +102

    😂😂👍Absolutely loved the end when you were wheeling out that little beast. That really made my day, thank you. If you weren’t kidding, yes please make that happen! Really need to see that thing in a car.

    • @mikedrivetribe8314
      @mikedrivetribe8314 Před 2 lety +20

      I'm working on it!

    • @WhiteDieselShed
      @WhiteDieselShed Před 2 lety +6

      Was it just me that was thinking someone would come rushing out shouting stop he is stealing our engine? Needs a couple of turbo's if fitting it to Oliver.

    • @dukiemoto8676
      @dukiemoto8676 Před 2 lety +2

      @@WhiteDieselShed Yes! And yes!😂

    • @gavin5861
      @gavin5861 Před 2 lety +6

      I thought it was super cool of cosworth to let him do that since that's a historic test engine

    • @leorasyak7424
      @leorasyak7424 Před 2 lety +1

      Make it happen, Oliver needs to live again.

  • @ianjones7486
    @ianjones7486 Před 2 lety +15

    Can we get more feedback from Bruce on what was happening back then. He's got a wealth of knowledge and some great engines to discuss

  • @MrMaxitaple
    @MrMaxitaple Před 2 lety +6

    This single piston engine is everything we need as a range extender for electrical cars

  • @ianhill1624
    @ianhill1624 Před 2 lety +5

    Great episode, more like this please. I'd be interested in how they develop the bottom end when scaling up from 3 to 12 cylinders since the harmonic resonances and thus the stresses must be very different.

    • @T..C..M
      @T..C..M Před 2 lety +2

      The v10 and v12s are inherently balanced, so no need to care about harmonics on the test engine, so if the test engine survives, you know the bigger ones will be even better.

  • @stevenlarratt3638
    @stevenlarratt3638 Před 2 lety +5

    My NC35 400cc V4 back in the 90's used to spin up to 14,000 RPM and met road emmisions with a normal carb system, that could easily be retro fitted onto an injector system to meet current regs

    • @stevenlarratt3638
      @stevenlarratt3638 Před 2 lety

      Honda spec was 75 Hp tuned

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager Před 2 lety +1

      Honda were racing 250cc six cylinder motorcycles in the 1960's that would rev to 20,000!

    • @QuakeGamerROTMG
      @QuakeGamerROTMG Před 2 lety

      @@FFVoyager All of the Japanese bike manufacturers had 250cc four cylinders in the late 80's into the 90's that were scratching 20K as well
      Not race bikes mind you, cheap street bikes meant for new riders. They're still a fairly common sight as a first bike here in Australia.

  • @peaktraveller
    @peaktraveller Před 2 lety +7

    Great vid Mike. Cosworth are legendary in the truest and most accurate sense of this much misused word.

  • @foundnotlost
    @foundnotlost Před 2 lety +1

    That 3 cylinder Valk would be the perfect engine for my mini pickup. I didn't know Cosworth built that till now, I'm off on the info search now. Thanks will sub for this.

  • @aneudysc
    @aneudysc Před 2 lety +6

    This looks like they could perfectly make an 800cc V4 that could fit into a trellis motorcycle frame

  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse Před 2 lety +57

    Great video 👌
    However, I present to you the 90s Honda CBR250RR 4cyl motorcycle. It reliably revs to 18500rpm with occasional trips to 20k and will do so for well past 100,000km of riding, some as much as 200,000km 😳
    Sure, it's half the power of the 1cyl Cosworth, but they were amazing!
    My two oldest sons owned one and it was brilliant fun to ride 🙂

    • @LeonKotze70
      @LeonKotze70 Před 2 lety +6

      You just missed the technical part behind the video... went totally over your head.

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse Před 2 lety +13

      @@LeonKotze70
      Actually no.
      Great tech and impressive to see.
      You missed my point that there are actually engines out in the wild that are also amazing.

    • @Will._Power
      @Will._Power Před 2 lety +9

      I haven't missed the point....but I have got a Yamaha FZR250RR, 40+bhp at 18k+ rpm....owned for 20 years and will never, ever sell it. Every single time I ride it down the A44 Worcester to Leominster, I'm 18 again. I'm 38 now. Its just pure emotion.

    • @phil955i
      @phil955i Před 2 lety +7

      @@Will._Power ha ha I had one of those about 25 years ago, I put a race can on it & it sounded like an F1 car at those revs. I remember screaming past a car workshop near where I lived & all the mechanics came out to see what it was lol.

    • @sheene71
      @sheene71 Před 2 lety +2

      bet it screamed !

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 Před 2 lety +21

    That single cylinder engine would be badass in a quad/atv!

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 Před 2 lety +2

      It seems to fit better the frame of a motorcycle though.

    • @unclejacksyoutube6496
      @unclejacksyoutube6496 Před 2 lety +4

      Well Yamaha did it with a warrior 350 in the 80s or 90s. 75 horsepower from a .35 single cylinder. We have one that’s old and pretty much broken down. It still runs and my lord does it have some umph to it.

    • @indiebekonn
      @indiebekonn Před 2 lety +1

      To be honest, modern 450 motocross/rally engines make 80hp+ quite easily and reliably so in the motorcycle world it’s not revolutionary.

    • @chucknorris277
      @chucknorris277 Před 2 lety

      My 800cc 2cylinder snowmobile makes 165hp. And is the size of that

    • @Oceam
      @Oceam Před 2 lety

      Ever heard of 2 strokes

  • @bodeine454
    @bodeine454 Před 2 lety +16

    I'm amazed that a single cylinder engine that revs to 20,000 can even stay intact without falling apart. The vibrations must be a horrendous thing to experience.

    • @austinray7925
      @austinray7925 Před rokem +5

      I mean you can look at any high performance dirtbike, they rev out to 14,500 all day long without any issues. I can’t see another 5k being disastrous

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Brushcutters have single cylinder engines that rev to 20 000 easily.

  • @The_Slavstralian
    @The_Slavstralian Před 2 lety +2

    What would have really made me laugh at the end would have been a Security Guard yelling out " Oi what you got there!? "

  • @marcobusch
    @marcobusch Před 2 lety +4

    Turboprops use a gearbox to reduce huge RPM from the engine to the propeller, some are capable to deal with 20k RPM easily, you guys could give a try using Oliver and this 1 cylinder engine.

    • @Shadowboost
      @Shadowboost Před 2 lety +1

      True, you would need a reduction gearbox but it would work

  • @davidwilliams5497
    @davidwilliams5497 Před 2 lety +27

    For all the talk of putting one of those 3 cylinders in a hot hatch or something, I want to see a couple of them as a V-6. I mean, c’mon. A NA V-6 with 500hp, and revs to >10k? Yes, please.
    Then put it in something lightweight and **relatively** affordable (as opposed to the cost of a T.50 or Valkyrie at least). Let someone that makes amazing sports cars like Lotus sort out the chassis, and you’d have an all-timer.

    • @mry82
      @mry82 Před 2 lety +1

      @@richardharrold9736 Great idea David, but I vote for the I6 iteration!

    • @Veketi_
      @Veketi_ Před 2 lety +1

      V6 hatchbacks existed

    • @robertgudd7196
      @robertgudd7196 Před 2 lety

      The engines just cost too much. If you assume the engines cost 10% of the sticker price which seems pretty reasonable. That's 200k for each engine. Even if you half that for a more mass produced v6 it's still an awful lot of money for a 3.25l v6. The average joe just can't pay for them

  • @billk9628
    @billk9628 Před 2 lety

    I remember back in the 1980's a friend had one of those cosworth Vegas GM built in the early 1970s. 4 cylinder dual overhead cam with mechanical fuel injection. Was pretty quick for something so small.

  • @Dikerma1
    @Dikerma1 Před 2 lety

    My first car when i go 18 was a sierra cosworth with stock 220hp, and since then i love cosis.

  • @Poorschedriver
    @Poorschedriver Před 2 lety +5

    That single cylinder engine likely costs more than my entire neighborhood...

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Před 2 lety +5

    I like how he didn't exactly say no, but couldn't exactly say yes

  • @12HedmanLane
    @12HedmanLane Před 2 lety +1

    I have one of these engines in my kids go-kart. One of them accidentally went into another dimension temporarily white testing it.

  • @paulmaxwell8851
    @paulmaxwell8851 Před 2 lety +6

    The thumbnail was deliberately misleading and simply clickbait.

  • @yurimbarbosa0
    @yurimbarbosa0 Před 2 lety +14

    Oh man. I happy every time I see Bruce on vídeos. Technical specifications satisfy my geek side, PLEASE more this

  • @HansDelbruck53
    @HansDelbruck53 Před 2 lety +38

    I'd love to see that engine, or something similar, powering Oliver. Make it happen.

  • @sbkpeace.24
    @sbkpeace.24 Před 2 lety +2

    What a treat this video is 🙂 I want to see what a cosworth 3 cylinder does in a motorbike

  • @DavidBrown-nd9mf
    @DavidBrown-nd9mf Před 2 lety +3

    That single cylinder engine would be something to behold in a motorcycle. Add a turbo and proper exhaust and the sound would be amazing.

    • @TucsonDude
      @TucsonDude Před 2 lety +1

      You forget the incredible gear reduction transmission needed.

  • @Absolutenutter
    @Absolutenutter Před 2 lety +11

    Cosworth are truly brilliant, I'd love to see them back in f1, imagine, we could have Aston Martin Cosworth as an example,
    also, please, please do all you can to get that single cylinder into Oliver, was a crazy, wonderful, combination

  • @kalyankothekar
    @kalyankothekar Před 2 lety +18

    That T50s v12 engine just sounds divine

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar Před 2 lety +1

    Cosworth, the mad scientists of engines.

  • @adriandunn9036
    @adriandunn9036 Před 2 lety +5

    I remember having to line bore the main bearing bores on the RJ engine when I worked in the prototype department. It took very careful setting up as the limit on size was only 8 microns. It was great to be involved if only in a small way. 🙂

    • @davehall44
      @davehall44 Před 2 lety

      Probably all temperature controlled work.

    • @adriandunn9036
      @adriandunn9036 Před 2 lety +2

      Well you would think so, but actually it wasn't tep controlled. None of the machine shops were temperature controlled. I never really understood why to be honest.

    • @Ngontih
      @Ngontih Před 2 lety

      @@adriandunn9036 perhaps the measuring tools sxpand by about the same amount

    • @adriandunn9036
      @adriandunn9036 Před 2 lety

      @@Ngontih That may be true, but I suspect that there must have been a small error. The cylinder block was aluminium. I used a piece of measuring equipment called an Air Gauge. This was set in two rings that were made of steel. Anyway, one way or another it worked well.

    • @stephenbrickwood5148
      @stephenbrickwood5148 Před rokem

      Hi Adrian, I also remember doing a few of these on that old cranky Newall Jig Borer, hope you are keeping well?

  • @riccardopolacchi
    @riccardopolacchi Před 2 lety +3

    90 hp on a 300 cc 1 cylinder is crazy, unbelivable

  • @steven-vn9ui
    @steven-vn9ui Před 2 lety +7

    I would never have guessed a single could run up to 20k rpm! Amazing, very informative video.

    • @DDBmaster
      @DDBmaster Před 2 lety +1

      No clue how they overcome valve floating over 13 14k

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 Před 2 lety +3

      @@DDBmaster heavy valve springs

    • @SomeReefer
      @SomeReefer Před 2 lety

      @@DDBmaster Ducati has created a system that would take care of that no problem. Forget what they call it but it opens and closes the valve mechanically with no spring.

    • @rossracing6433
      @rossracing6433 Před 2 lety +4

      Modern F1 engines actually use pneumatic "springs", but there's various ways to achieve a very high reving engine. Desmodromic valvetrain (the valve is energized on both the opening and closing strokes), fully pneumatic cam-less actuation, and of course just ultra-light valves, retainers, paired with super heavy springs. NASCAR engines in the early 2000s were able to rev to nearly 11,000 rpm despite being antiquated OHV monsters so it can happen

    • @White_Night_Demon
      @White_Night_Demon Před 2 lety

      whats the point of high revs and HP? Just low rev with strong torque and it'd work on any gear ratio

  • @coreygolpheneee
    @coreygolpheneee Před 8 měsíci +1

    Sell that 3 banger as a crate motor, i have a feeling those 3 pots are the best sounding engines on earth

  • @villagelightsmith4375
    @villagelightsmith4375 Před 2 lety +1

    Cosworth V-Twin, 550 CC, Yamaha 1982-3 Vision. Far ahead of its time.

  • @midlam99
    @midlam99 Před 2 lety +3

    So they've given you the engine to play with! There's reason that, with some cam and ign timing fettle, this motor will work in the Kadett.

  • @playstation8779
    @playstation8779 Před 2 lety +3

    I kinds wanna see a 1 cylinder crate engine for sell from them. It would be cool because if your building a lightweight track car this would end up being the crate engine of choice due to how much weight your saving with the engine and transmission together.

  • @mudpuddle8805
    @mudpuddle8805 Před 2 lety

    Mind blowing stuff! Best video I've seen this month!

  • @radianman
    @radianman Před rokem

    It was a bit frustrating that the first 6 minutes and 50 seconds were spent on v12 car engines when what got me to click on the video was the 300cc single, but it was a great video regardless. What an awesome little engine!

  • @yaksauce
    @yaksauce Před 2 lety +7

    Cosworth learned something from Honda as Honda engineers first benchmarked the single thumper found in Cubs/Dreams in the 1950s and later scaled-up the design for cars, lawnmowers, outboards, etc.

    • @rotccoyote1
      @rotccoyote1 Před 2 lety +2

      I was going to whine at them because Honda was approaching these numbers back in the 80s already on single cylinder pistons. For example, I have a 1984 XR500R dirt bike that makes 41HP at 6000 rpm. Given the rev and age differences, this cosworth just seems like a built version.

  • @mikew8983
    @mikew8983 Před 2 lety +3

    "How much vibration you want?"
    Y E S

  • @thomasrose6962
    @thomasrose6962 Před rokem

    Loved that 3 sec sound byte of what obviously our mighty mite going thru the gears on a Dyno😊

  • @terradrive
    @terradrive Před 2 lety

    cosworth is amazing. Even the 4AGE is kinda referenced the cosworth BDA. Then the successor on the benz 190E evolution II 2.3-16 cosworth that i seen recently ran and sounded amazing. Really impressed because I studied engineering and my final year project was about engines too.

  • @UKRacer36
    @UKRacer36 Před 2 lety +6

    Nice to see my old boss can still have a chuckle even with the weight of being CEO.

  • @brad4057
    @brad4057 Před 2 lety +4

    You should put the vauxhall red top in Richards car it was designed by cosworth was used in the GTE and GSI vauxhalls

  • @bertbuschbertbusch
    @bertbuschbertbusch Před 2 lety +1

    Toyota must be proud about their little GR Yaris 257bhp 3cylinder

  • @fteoOpty64
    @fteoOpty64 Před 2 lety +1

    Cozzie is the king of engine makers!. Awesome heritage of superb engineering.

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad Před 2 lety +8

    I want to see cosworth work over a Triumph Rocket 3

    • @TheThunderwars
      @TheThunderwars Před 2 lety

      Better off dropping in a 1250GS engine. Still an aircooled flat, only ten time more powerful than the first 2cv

  • @joyceofdriving4954
    @joyceofdriving4954 Před 2 lety +21

    Beautiful engines and amazing engineering!! Thant being said, having to meet emissions standards on these cars is ridiculous. There will literally will be 80-150 made of each model. Of which most will spend their life in a garage, each only getting probably about 1,000 miles put on them over a 10 year period. a high mileage "driver" 30 years from now will have 15-30,000 miles put on it.

    • @surfernorm6360
      @surfernorm6360 Před 2 lety +1

      Thats a joke in 30 years try to find gasoline for a street engine. Alcohol might be available at moderate cost or you could make it. But gas will probably 50 bucks a gallon and hard too find

    • @joyceofdriving4954
      @joyceofdriving4954 Před 2 lety

      @@surfernorm6360 That completely missed the point of my comment, even though it's true.

    • @XTR_NEELAN
      @XTR_NEELAN Před 2 lety

      @@surfernorm6360 no i would be banned if we survive till then

    • @ClioDank
      @ClioDank Před 2 lety

      @@surfernorm6360 when people move to EVs the demand for fuel will go down thus making it cheaper, gg

  • @KristianKG
    @KristianKG Před rokem +1

    Imagine 600cc paralel twin 2x300cc engine with 180 bhp! Monster!🤯

  • @TheInvertedFollicle507
    @TheInvertedFollicle507 Před 2 lety +2

    Don't get me wrong, I love the GMA and Aston Martin V12s but my personal favourite engine of this period is the TFG (tiny friendly giant) inline 3 cylinder twin turbo engine developing 600HP found in the Koenigsegg Gemera.
    Edit fantastic video by the way.

  • @BigKrisMorris
    @BigKrisMorris Před 2 lety +3

    Imagine any of those in a motorbike or small car. Awesome!!!

  • @smoath
    @smoath Před 2 lety +6

    So cool of them to facilitate this content. Well done 👍🏻

  • @killingfields1424
    @killingfields1424 Před rokem

    Power to weight ratio model. Try this, a 19,200liter single cylinder with two-scroll turbo, where we add 1.6liter cylinder multiplied to 12 where 12 is the supposed to be the number of cylinder

  • @otpyrcralphpierre1742
    @otpyrcralphpierre1742 Před 2 lety +1

    It's Amazing the amount of engineering that goes into developing a new engine.

  • @replikvltyoutube3727
    @replikvltyoutube3727 Před 2 lety +5

    This is actually cool content on this channel.
    Have you thought though about swapping a 13b into oliver in case you won't get hands on the single cylinder cosworth?

  • @Westside7be
    @Westside7be Před 2 lety +3

    joking aside, the Valkyrie 3 cylinder Cozze WILL actually fit your Civic :D

  • @rickj1983
    @rickj1983 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd love to drop one of those 3cyl engines in my Volvo 850. What a sleeper it would be. 12k rpm and HP!

  • @ogexoreaper2052
    @ogexoreaper2052 Před rokem +1

    My mind goes to let's make these one cylinder prototypes into the worlds fastest go karts

  • @CHOEYGMUSIC
    @CHOEYGMUSIC Před 2 lety +7

    Would love this in a bike or gokart! My 2006 Aprillia RS125 made around 33-35bhp, revved to about 17,000 (if I remember correctly). That was an incredible bike. Hit about 117mph... on a 125cc! 2-stroke of course. Anyway...

  • @JewelzTheEmeraldGod
    @JewelzTheEmeraldGod Před 2 lety +4

    I wanna hear this thing on a dyno reaching 20k.

  • @Bischlarbo69
    @Bischlarbo69 Před 2 lety

    So glad we got to hear a sound clip

  • @ibrahimpallikkal5100
    @ibrahimpallikkal5100 Před 2 lety +2

    Cosworth and Freevalve are current most innovated and best engine maker,

  • @NGC-7635
    @NGC-7635 Před 2 lety +6

    I think an Opel Manta engine would be a great engine swap for oliver
    (Possibly a TVR engine also)

    • @cakraparindra4659
      @cakraparindra4659 Před 2 lety +1

      We need another knee for Hammond to break if they did swap this 1-cyl to the Oliver

  • @chrisosh9574
    @chrisosh9574 Před 2 lety +5

    Back in the 90s, a mate of mine bought an ex Honda works 125 2/, it was a few years out of Moto GP but after a modest rebuild we had 54BHP on a dyno. I am sure if Cosworth wanted to, now they could do somewhat better than 90 from a 300 single.

  • @hoodhangerz4315
    @hoodhangerz4315 Před 2 lety

    It's like the Silvia Saint and Jenna Jameson room of engineering.
    Had 3 cosworth in the day and they will always be special in my eyes.