I got my dream Colnago C60, with Campagnolo Super Record EPS, Bora tubular wheels, etc, several years back! I still ride it today, as it is an awesome looking bike, and "Made in Italy", too!!!
My dream would be a C60 with campagnolo groupset and wheels with Cinelli bars and finishing kit . Booted with vittoria tyres . Yeah I love Italian bikes and parts .
Actually I have two . The second is a Cinelli Super Corsa (steel tugged frame) in metalic green with polished lugs with Campagnolo Chorus in silver with Campagnolo Ryde polished aluminium low profile rims with Campagnolo prima hubs in polished silver . Cinelli polished finishing kit . 👌
After watching Luescher Teknik cut up a couple of C-Series I wasn't particularly impressed with their build quality. Just like with many top-end carbon bikes, you're paying a lot for the brand name and history that doesn't really exist today. Good for Colonago for at least assembling in Italy.
About the whole NFT thing... It does not prevent someone stealing your bike but it might make reselling impossible. Soon enough thieves will know which bikes can't be resold hence those will not be stolen anymore. Also when the owner is changed every time to blockchain as the frame gets sold, we will have the full history of each frame = how many owners before you, when it was made etc. I can see how someone buying brand new Colnago might not care so much but I guarantee that none will buy used C68 without getting the NFT which tells you are not buying a stolen bike.
I believe the NFT and the block chain coding are two seperate things. The NFT is a unique “AVATAR” you get with the bike. Colnago tried this before at a cost. Didn’t take off. So now you get it with the bike.
The new bikes do not have Ernesto’s signature, and as he has stated in social media this means that he hasn’t had a part in the bikes development…while he had been instrumental in developing many great bikes for over the years he has gained a huge following of happy cyclists across the globe which is always going to be hard to continue as he steps away….but presumably the Colnago company employ many staff including design and manufacturing teams involved in developing the new bikes using design and manufacturing processes and systems developed in the company so it might be unfair to state that the bike has lost all connections with the past… Ernestos DNA is in the company and staff too… the new bike seems to reflect Colnagos transition away from a family business … linking the traditional lug and assembly processes used in the past with newer developments - 3D printed lugs… so should be an improvement… but for the prices being charged for the new frames for. My part I’ll stick to the older frames which represent more than i need in a bicycle…
Srarted on Look, junk. Went to Colnago and I've owned the C50, C59 and now ride a C64 (after saving for 2 years). Skipped the C60 my Colnago dealer said its unsuited to Alpine riding. The C64 is just the best balanced of the three but the C50 was the lightest. Rode 6 hours across the Alpes a fortnight back aside from the usual leg tireness no other aches, the C64 is just perfect. Won't be buying the C68 as I think the C64 is just the ducks nuts but I also only buy and have serviced my bikes by the shop I have always bought from.
I think the potential C68 buyer really wants the integrated cables at the bar. At the end of the day, it's a status symbol and big flex. And don't you dare show any cables on Instagram.
Yes. I have several steel Colnagos, one with Campy 12s weights 7,7kg, and the only reason I would be switching to carbon is the fully integrated cables. Sounds ridiculous but I never liked the looks of carbon bikes before the cables disappeared completely so for me that is a must. I do not even own instagram :D
The new bike is beautiful for sure, but they forwent the lug design, bar and stem and round seat post. The side effect is this will make older models more sought after and we know what that does.
Hey Wayne, I've found a great bike machanic that has said, yup it's ok if you bought your chain online, I'll change it as I wasn't able to head to a friends place where I normally put my bike on the rack in his she'd during COVID.
Colnago bikes are beautiful but I can't picture myself being involved into a NFT scam, I commute on a bike as well for environmental reasons and it would be contradictory. Now the 3D printed parts are something interesting. I think it's overpriced given the weight.
Ooh Super Leggera please, just looked at Bastion site for the first time, you know I like my vintage chrome lugged steel bikes, that is a lovely looking bike. Yep give me that over the Colnago 😁
Check out there Instagram page, your mind will be blown! You will be dropling for sure. Custom geo and paint, plus they engrave your name on the derailleur hanger lug. @bastioncycles
Id rather have a Johann Musseau replica with an adjustable round seat post, bars and stem. This frame looks a Johnny Rocket bike from Walmart. My home town mechanic is a certified pro. Only he can touch my bikes.
For a lot of years Colnago was a dream bike for me. Finally my local Colnago bike shop offered me a deal on a M10 I couldn't refuse. I loved how the bike rides. The geometry was me. I owned it and sold it after 3 years and I wanted a new bike because I don't trust carbon beyond that so I went for the custom made frame from a US builder. I sent him the Colnago's geometry only instead of the 54cm I had him upsize it to a 55cm. Now the bike is more sized to my needs and the geometry is still that Colnago geometry and it rides like that M10 did. I got the unpainted frame made and shipped to my door for just under $4500. If I ever have an issue with this frame the builder is right here in my country and is one heck of a good guy that I've had many conversations with. Heck if I wanted to I could go to Bozeman, Montana and ride with him because he loves to ride bikes. As for NFT's and ownership I think I have all the prof I need right there that this bike is mine and if I were to sell the bike I could contact Carl, the builder, and simply tell him who the new owner is. NFT's WTF, dumbest idea anybody has ever invented and doesn't guaranty worth or value. I think ultimately the name Colnago is going to get lost in conversation because in the cycling circles nobody but the filthy rich are going to own the new ones so you won't see many if any around. I feel the same as you, if you are going to pay that premium you should go with another brand preferably local to your country. As far as I'm concerned Colnago as a brand can stay in Italy.
Custom built frames, built by a builder you know personally are the best (long term) values there is. You KNOW who builds your frame. YOU GET EXACTLY what YOU want! Not what marketing hacks believe fits the widest variety of consumers or what makes large corporations the biggest profit. Most frame builders do this stuff because they love bikes. They're generally not getting rich at it.
I'm in the same "boat" with two builders in the area. I really couldn't get into a "lugged" carbon frame until I added in the value of repair. Replacing a tube is easier and faster than trying to patch. That's one of the benefits of steel or aluminium frames. As to the value of an NFT, nope. It's a gimmick. And it doesn't belong with a high value bicycle frame. As to electronic locking, why not? If it can be disabled, sure. I can look at my auto and see the value.
Guess from an Australian perspective it is more environmentally friendly to buy East-Asian made bikes than buying Italian-made one, because they have to travel less far. And please do not say "Col-nae-go", it's Col-NAH-go!
Yes very nice but no different to similar top bikes, no lugs or signature now that Ernesto sold the company. Will keep my C40 in Mapes team colours. Time make better finished frames than anybody in this price bracket.
Rim brakes are great. I have record 12 on my EPS C series Colnago. Great bike, I think the C68 is the only bike that may be better, just beautiful in every way. Too bad you can’t pronounce ‘Colnago’, it diminishes your impact.
Great Colnago options in the World in recession, wars and crisis... Distributors are going down to drain, on the edge og bancrupcy including Wiggle, and more... I the USA the drama just started.
White glove ? Delivery with your fit … no it does work that way here in Msia … it’s not cut to your fit and it’s the bike dealers that do most of the work which is nothing much actually. They work with sizes mainly. So for the price you pay here RM 40,000 it’s not worth it cause fitting is not to your comfort
The best option for bike safety is to never let it leave your sight. Locks will never stop a thief who really wants your bike/car/ whatever. I'll only lock up my Frankenstein bikes that I don't mind parting with. Since they are practically free, I only have my time invested. Make your locked up bike uglier than the other bikes nearby. Make it 'look' diseased.
Crypto entrepreneur Sina Estavi, in March 2021, paid $2.9M for an NFT, [Twitter boss Jack Dorsey’s first tweet]. But recently trying to resell it resulted with a top bid of a mere $6,800. No guarantee is glued to an NFT’s value. The market is distended with scams, fraud, counterfeits, and market 'magic'.
@@waynosfotos To be real, maybe. But Specialized is out there saying that every wrinkle in your clothing costs one watt. So if your frame starts out with at least four unnecessary "wrinkles" ..... ? I have no idea if one wrinkle = 1 watt or not. But that's what is being sold by the marketing.
@@CrabgrassFarmer yeah, cough cough, just riding in the drops gives you ten times more than that. Your body is 80% of the drag. Therefore unless you are riding in the drops everywhere it is a drop in the ocean. Most people on "C" series are not pros and are fat enthusiasts, like me, so i am not losing sleep over a wrinkle in my jersey or my bike. That is the reality for the most consumers.
@@waynosfotos Agreed of course. Just yesterday I beat a guy in a friendly bunch ride race for the second time. He is a stronger rider than me and really bummed out about it. So far I haven't told him that the only reason I am beating him is because I am concentrating on being as aero as I can. :)
A rim brake Colnago? Sign me up!
I got my dream Colnago C60, with Campagnolo Super Record EPS, Bora tubular wheels, etc, several years back!
I still ride it today, as it is an awesome looking bike, and "Made in Italy", too!!!
In summary, Colnago is both retaining tradition AND corroding at it. But keeping the rim brakes going? Wow!
I tried to order a V3RS and was told they don’t make it in rim brake version anymore, true?
I would contact Colnago direct to confirm. Only they will truely know.
My dream would be a C60 with campagnolo groupset and wheels with Cinelli bars and finishing kit . Booted with vittoria tyres . Yeah I love Italian bikes and parts .
Actually I have two . The second is a Cinelli Super Corsa (steel tugged frame) in metalic green with polished lugs with Campagnolo Chorus in silver with Campagnolo Ryde polished aluminium low profile rims with Campagnolo prima hubs in polished silver . Cinelli polished finishing kit . 👌
And a Proprietary income. I would love a steel Colnago in Mapei team colours.
Sorry, the C40 C50 Extreme power and EPS carbon was sourced from Germany
The NFT would make me think twice about a purchase however it is a gimic that I would never need or use.
After watching Luescher Teknik cut up a couple of C-Series I wasn't particularly impressed with their build quality. Just like with many top-end carbon bikes, you're paying a lot for the brand name and history that doesn't really exist today. Good for Colonago for at least assembling in Italy.
Yeah, it's no different from other Italian luxury brand items. They all look pretty outside.
My understanding is that the tubes are made in Italy. Also, you can use certain Deda stem and bar combos if you want some more flexibility.
About the whole NFT thing... It does not prevent someone stealing your bike but it might make reselling impossible. Soon enough thieves will know which bikes can't be resold hence those will not be stolen anymore. Also when the owner is changed every time to blockchain as the frame gets sold, we will have the full history of each frame = how many owners before you, when it was made etc. I can see how someone buying brand new Colnago might not care so much but I guarantee that none will buy used C68 without getting the NFT which tells you are not buying a stolen bike.
I believe the NFT and the block chain coding are two seperate things. The NFT is a unique “AVATAR” you get with the bike. Colnago tried this before at a cost. Didn’t take off. So now you get it with the bike.
The new bikes do not have Ernesto’s signature, and as he has stated in social media this means that he hasn’t had a part in the bikes development…while he had been instrumental in developing many great bikes for over the years he has gained a huge following of happy cyclists across the globe which is always going to be hard to continue as he steps away….but presumably the Colnago company employ many staff including design and manufacturing teams involved in developing the new bikes using design and manufacturing processes and systems developed in the company so it might be unfair to state that the bike has lost all connections with the past… Ernestos DNA is in the company and staff too… the new bike seems to reflect Colnagos transition away from a family business … linking the traditional lug and assembly processes used in the past with newer developments - 3D printed lugs… so should be an improvement… but for the prices being charged for the new frames for. My part I’ll stick to the older frames which represent more than i need in a bicycle…
Srarted on Look, junk. Went to Colnago and I've owned the C50, C59 and now ride a C64 (after saving for 2 years). Skipped the C60 my Colnago dealer said its unsuited to Alpine riding. The C64 is just the best balanced of the three but the C50 was the lightest. Rode 6 hours across the Alpes a fortnight back aside from the usual leg tireness no other aches, the C64 is just perfect. Won't be buying the C68 as I think the C64 is just the ducks nuts but I also only buy and have serviced my bikes by the shop I have always bought from.
I think the potential C68 buyer really wants the integrated cables at the bar. At the end of the day, it's a status symbol and big flex. And don't you dare show any cables on Instagram.
Yes. I have several steel Colnagos, one with Campy 12s weights 7,7kg, and the only reason I would be switching to carbon is the fully integrated cables. Sounds ridiculous but I never liked the looks of carbon bikes before the cables disappeared completely so for me that is a must. I do not even own instagram :D
The new bike is beautiful for sure, but they forwent the lug design, bar and stem and round seat post. The side effect is this will make older models more sought after and we know what that does.
I’ve been searching for C68 videos but never come across this one apparently released a year ago ???
Hey Wayne, I've found a great bike machanic that has said, yup it's ok if you bought your chain online, I'll change it as I wasn't able to head to a friends place where I normally put my bike on the rack in his she'd during COVID.
Nice review agree with your conclusion. It’s lost its appeal for the price
I love Colnago 💪🚴
Colnago bikes are beautiful but I can't picture myself being involved into a NFT scam, I commute on a bike as well for environmental reasons and it would be contradictory. Now the 3D printed parts are something interesting. I think it's overpriced given the weight.
Ooh Super Leggera please, just looked at Bastion site for the first time, you know I like my vintage chrome lugged steel bikes, that is a lovely looking bike. Yep give me that over the Colnago 😁
Check out there Instagram page, your mind will be blown! You will be dropling for sure. Custom geo and paint, plus they engrave your name on the derailleur hanger lug. @bastioncycles
If you want a traditional Colnago buy a Master just as light as a carbon bike
That is C40 in Mapei colours.
Damn that auto correct.
Id rather have a Johann Musseau replica with an adjustable round seat post, bars and stem. This frame looks a Johnny Rocket bike from Walmart. My home town mechanic is a certified pro. Only he can touch my bikes.
What about a GPS beacon in the groupset that can be tripped upon theft
Yes.
For a lot of years Colnago was a dream bike for me. Finally my local Colnago bike shop offered me a deal on a M10 I couldn't refuse. I loved how the bike rides. The geometry was me. I owned it and sold it after 3 years and I wanted a new bike because I don't trust carbon beyond that so I went for the custom made frame from a US builder. I sent him the Colnago's geometry only instead of the 54cm I had him upsize it to a 55cm. Now the bike is more sized to my needs and the geometry is still that Colnago geometry and it rides like that M10 did. I got the unpainted frame made and shipped to my door for just under $4500. If I ever have an issue with this frame the builder is right here in my country and is one heck of a good guy that I've had many conversations with. Heck if I wanted to I could go to Bozeman, Montana and ride with him because he loves to ride bikes. As for NFT's and ownership I think I have all the prof I need right there that this bike is mine and if I were to sell the bike I could contact Carl, the builder, and simply tell him who the new owner is. NFT's WTF, dumbest idea anybody has ever invented and doesn't guaranty worth or value. I think ultimately the name Colnago is going to get lost in conversation because in the cycling circles nobody but the filthy rich are going to own the new ones so you won't see many if any around. I feel the same as you, if you are going to pay that premium you should go with another brand preferably local to your country. As far as I'm concerned Colnago as a brand can stay in Italy.
May I ask who is the builder/company? I’ve been looking at having a custom frame. Thanks!
Custom built frames, built by a builder you know personally are the best (long term) values there is.
You KNOW who builds your frame. YOU GET EXACTLY what YOU want! Not what marketing hacks believe fits the widest variety of consumers or what makes large corporations the biggest profit.
Most frame builders do this stuff because they love bikes. They're generally not getting rich at it.
I'm in the same "boat" with two builders in the area. I really couldn't get into a "lugged" carbon frame until I added in the value of repair. Replacing a tube is easier and faster than trying to patch. That's one of the benefits of steel or aluminium frames. As to the value of an NFT, nope. It's a gimmick. And it doesn't belong with a high value bicycle frame. As to electronic locking, why not? If it can be disabled, sure. I can look at my auto and see the value.
Fantastic review.
Better than GCN’s.
Guess from an Australian perspective it is more environmentally friendly to buy East-Asian made bikes than buying Italian-made one, because they have to travel less far. And please do not say "Col-nae-go", it's Col-NAH-go!
Hee Hee 😜
No to the electric lock. Can you imagine if it malfunctioned while riding? Me no want eat guard rail.
I doubt electric lock is going to fail while you're riding. Cars have electric lock, so why not bikes?
Yes very nice but no different to similar top bikes, no lugs or signature now that Ernesto sold the company.
Will keep my C40 in Mapes team colours.
Time make better finished frames than anybody in this price bracket.
Rim brakes are great. I have record 12 on my EPS C series Colnago. Great bike, I think the C68 is the only bike that may be better, just beautiful in every way. Too bad you can’t pronounce ‘Colnago’, it diminishes your impact.
Aussie prounciation 🤣
It looks like another generic carbon frame now which is a shame but I’m glad they are doing a rim brake version as discs on a Colnago are just wrong.
Great Colnago options in the World in recession, wars and crisis... Distributors are going down to drain, on the edge og bancrupcy including Wiggle, and more... I the USA the drama just started.
White glove ? Delivery with your fit … no it does work that way here in Msia … it’s not cut to your fit and it’s the bike dealers that do most of the work which is nothing much actually. They work with sizes mainly. So for the price you pay here RM 40,000 it’s not worth it cause fitting is not to your comfort
The pro’s sure do complain about their colnagos a lot.
I don't exactly follow pros, so what is their issue with Colnago?
20,000 euros?????????????????????? Just toooooooo much!
The best option for bike safety remains:🔒🔒🔒
The best option for bike safety is to never let it leave your sight.
Locks will never stop a thief who really wants your bike/car/ whatever.
I'll only lock up my Frankenstein bikes that I don't mind parting with. Since they are practically free, I only have my time invested.
Make your locked up bike uglier than the other bikes nearby. Make it 'look' diseased.
Colneygo? Come on. It’s pronounced Colnahgo.
Not sure colnago has any sense of tradition. Except that they have a tradition of mixing it up. They have always been cutting edge
Interestingly I read at article a few years ago and Mr Colnago doesnt like Rim brakes
Please pronounce Colnago in Italian fashion....
Soon we gonna buy bikes as intangible, un-rideable, NFT entities, at ridiculous high prices.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Colnago already tried that. 🤦
Crypto entrepreneur Sina Estavi, in March 2021, paid $2.9M for an NFT, [Twitter boss Jack Dorsey’s first tweet]. But recently trying to resell it resulted with a top bid of a mere $6,800.
No guarantee is glued to an NFT’s value. The market is distended with scams, fraud, counterfeits, and market 'magic'.
Colnaaygo mate lol 😂 colnaaaaygo, put another shrimp on the barby
😁🤣
@@waynosfotos all good fun my colonial cousin, keep up the good vids
Colnego ;-)?
No rim brake option???
Need to watch the whole video.
With aerodynamics taking front and center across the road bike genre, it was inevitable that the pronounced lugs would have to go
To be real, it probably makes a half a watt difference. I would prefer the lugs.
@@waynosfotos To be real, maybe. But Specialized is out there saying that every wrinkle in your clothing costs one watt. So if your frame starts out with at least four unnecessary "wrinkles" ..... ? I have no idea if one wrinkle = 1 watt or not. But that's what is being sold by the marketing.
@@CrabgrassFarmer yeah, cough cough, just riding in the drops gives you ten times more than that. Your body is 80% of the drag. Therefore unless you are riding in the drops everywhere it is a drop in the ocean. Most people on "C" series are not pros and are fat enthusiasts, like me, so i am not losing sleep over a wrinkle in my jersey or my bike. That is the reality for the most consumers.
@@waynosfotos Agreed of course. Just yesterday I beat a guy in a friendly bunch ride race for the second time. He is a stronger rider than me and really bummed out about it. So far I haven't told him that the only reason I am beating him is because I am concentrating on being as aero as I can. :)
🤑🤑🤑🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮