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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024

Komentáře • 211

  • @jamesorrell7462
    @jamesorrell7462 Před 4 lety +301

    Can we just appreciate how good Lee's bass playing was at the start.

    • @rl-ub9hx
      @rl-ub9hx Před 4 lety +3

      They really need to bring him back...

    • @rioace3953
      @rioace3953 Před 3 lety +3

      dude should play dirty with RHCP over Flea, they won't need a guitar

    • @tfeerick
      @tfeerick Před 3 lety +1

      Through the whole thing

    • @tfeerick
      @tfeerick Před 3 lety +2

      @@donaldeli2682 nobody cares

    • @jamesorrell7462
      @jamesorrell7462 Před 3 lety +1

      @@donaldeli2682 Sod off.

  • @voomdaddymojo5636
    @voomdaddymojo5636 Před 4 lety +74

    Billy Sheehan pedal:
    Option to swap op amp chip
    Option to adjust boost level
    Option to adjust comp threshold
    Option to adjust amount of compression (mid switch position)
    Both the clean and drive channel has its own effect loop

    • @AdamSouthward
      @AdamSouthward Před 4 lety +9

      Deserves a video all its own.

    • @homeslice1479
      @homeslice1479 Před 4 lety

      And different 8-pin op amp chips are CHEAP. As someone who knows nothing about electronics, that was nice to see.

    • @lobotomy007
      @lobotomy007 Před 3 lety +3

      yes a lot of option, that's why i bought it. Sadly the overall tone was horrible and i ended selling it

    • @minibuns5397
      @minibuns5397 Před 2 lety +4

      Too many options. We just want the best option.

    • @heggy_69
      @heggy_69 Před 11 měsíci

      Someone tell the gear page, they'll go crazy over the magic chips lmao

  • @GabrielVelasco
    @GabrielVelasco Před 4 lety +21

    The EHX Bass Soul Food is their "bassic" or "bassified" version of their extremely popular Soul Food which is a Klon Centaur Klone. It runs at 18V internally like the Soul Food and the original Klon Centaur for lots of headroom. It also has an internal true/buffered bypass switch. The original Klon Centaur famously has a buffered bypass that affects your tone even when switched off.
    EHX bassified this pedal by adding a PAD switch to handle high-output-passive and active electronics and adding a BLEND knob to retain bass attack and dynamics. Some people like using the Bass Soul Food with their guitars because it's essentially the same circuit, but with some extra features.

  • @jackthomson5047
    @jackthomson5047 Před 4 lety +88

    Soul food is perfect. Just boosts your sound perfectly without changing tone or really distorting things. Perfect.

  • @brandoncoaker8821
    @brandoncoaker8821 Před 4 lety +21

    Really loving the sound of that MXR Bass Overdrive. The Darkglass was a close-second. Cheers.

  • @RobS-dy5xm
    @RobS-dy5xm Před 4 lety +44

    I'd like another demo with Nathan + P-Bass + Pick + Overdrive.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Před 4 lety +22

    I really love the tones on those pedals! Really remind me of the 80s and 90s grunge or metal tone. Cheers for the showcase

  • @CorbenEdward
    @CorbenEdward Před 7 měsíci +2

    The soul food, darkglass & ebs billy all did it for me. Really liked the billy though!
    My wife got me a bass soul food and I just couldn't get along with it until I cranked the drive, set the blend super low and adjusted the treble to taste. Going into a scooped ampeg amp sim, it made me feel like Justin Chancellor.

  • @joeltorres2733
    @joeltorres2733 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I have the bb1x and it is one of the best that boss has released in recent years, it is not an Overdrive, it is more of a sansamp style preamplifier, you make the most of it when combined with another pure overdrive pedal

  • @swissarmyknight4306
    @swissarmyknight4306 Před 4 lety +21

    The reason the treble control seems like it makes the Soul Food have more drive is that adding more high end information to an overdriven signal will add more detail and "grit" to a distortion sound.

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc Před 4 lety +4

      Capacitors will further round the corners off your square pulses, so (like the Tone knob on the instrument) it can't add anything, just remove it by shunting some of that treble to ground. Compared to the 12 o'clock setting it seems like "adding grit" but it's more a case of "not taking any grit away". I liked the Soul Food for a prog rock vibe, where the bass is in your face tonally rather than with distortion.

    • @treed873
      @treed873 Před 4 lety

      I own the Bass Soul Food, and while I like the sound that I get from it, I find myself cranking the bass on my EQ. It really does suck the low end out. I'm thinking of running it in tandem with an EQ pedal.

    • @almostliterally593
      @almostliterally593 Před 3 lety

      @@treed873 sucking the bass out had its benefits.

    • @treed873
      @treed873 Před 3 lety

      @@almostliterally593 Only if you're a guitar player pretending to be a bass player.

  • @bobaer3885
    @bobaer3885 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Soul Food was the sound I was looking for. Has just ordered it. Your video is very much appreciated. Thank you!

  • @nym053
    @nym053 Před 4 lety +24

    Honestly I've never been into the sound of Boss pedals.
    Sheehan and Bass Soul Food where my favorites.

    • @Wxterslide
      @Wxterslide Před 2 lety

      You’re missin out man

    • @nym053
      @nym053 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Wxterslide I'm not missing out on something that I'm not into.
      It's not like I've boycutted Boss or anything.

  • @BenKrisfield
    @BenKrisfield Před 4 lety +11

    I really liked the sound of the EBS pedal.

  • @NukePooch1
    @NukePooch1 Před 4 lety +7

    I liked the Darkglass best, especially at lower boost levels...but the Billy was close as the boost got higher. Love em both.

  • @mario_504
    @mario_504 Před 4 lety +3

    Guys! The treble knob in the Soul Food acts upon the overdriven sound, only, making it more inteligible and crispy. But a FACT: with a good bass and an amazing bassist, nothing can possibly sound bad. Way to go, folks!

  • @nunninkav
    @nunninkav Před 2 lety +4

    If the mix is thick, that Dark Glass almost gives you a Dug Pinnick tone and the mid scoop leaves nice room for guitars to sit. If you are in a power trio, playing leads on bass, TOOL covers, the Sheehan rig sounds like the way to go, it's got a good midrange for the Bass to take sonic center stage.

  • @blankvrs
    @blankvrs Před 3 lety +7

    This video helped me lean toward the Bass Soul Food. I prefer the more subtle drive of this pedal over those that have harsh distortion. Thanks for the excellent demos.

  • @chroyLee
    @chroyLee Před 2 lety +2

    I have the Boss overdrive. Will be buying the Darkglass today. Found a used one near my house for $125. I've been researching this week. Thank you for your help.

  • @h.ryanmanoo3121
    @h.ryanmanoo3121 Před 4 lety +7

    Yes, that Billy Sheehan is great.

  • @Evgen666ptz
    @Evgen666ptz Před 4 lety +6

    EBS Billy Sheehan Deluxe was the best for me!

  • @EricT43
    @EricT43 Před měsícem

    Lee busting out "Shy Boy" at 14:13, love it 🤙

  • @TheLocalZeroChannel
    @TheLocalZeroChannel Před 4 lety +34

    i'm partial to the Soul Food..... oh, yeah, i already have one. The kind of subtle drive thing that you just leave on if it's that kind of gig. A little bit of grit like you're pushing an amp a bit.

    • @glace5620
      @glace5620 Před 4 lety +2

      Got one as well, pleased with the tones

    • @nickbeneBass
      @nickbeneBass Před 4 lety +5

      I have it also. It's the best pedal to put you in front in the mix. It is almost always on for me

    • @Metalbass1979
      @Metalbass1979 Před 4 lety +7

      I have one, as well. It is the only drive pedal I've found that doesn't color my tone. It just kicks my already awesome amp tone up to 11.

    • @funkysxxt
      @funkysxxt Před 4 lety +3

      @@Metalbass1979 Exaktly what I was thinking of when the pedal was on. Very transparent. Sounded best to me

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale Před 3 lety +2

      That's a twist on the Klon Centaur I believe... subtle but reactive distortion that you'll probably never turn off!

  • @jarrahparry
    @jarrahparry Před 2 lety +2

    Bill Sheehan or Bass Soul Food, both sound great to me. Great playing Lee.

  • @wrathaz
    @wrathaz Před rokem +2

    Really dig the Billy Sheehan pedal.

  • @grizelda4526
    @grizelda4526 Před 4 lety +3

    Great info. Thank you so much. You guys do the BEST demos on CZcams.

  • @MrSacman88
    @MrSacman88 Před 3 lety +2

    He really rocks that bass! Clean, driving sound. Love it!

  • @Sadiquecat
    @Sadiquecat Před 2 lety +1

    My favourite was the MXR, sounded clean without any filter, but still had that little "fuzzy" details in the sound, both clean and extra "detailed".
    The Soul Food also sounds clean if not cleaner, but I preferred the color of the overdrive of the MXR, just had that little extra "fuzz" to it.
    My second fav was the EBS Billy, I liked the possibilities and it had a very nice "oldschool" sound.

  • @roadtonever
    @roadtonever Před 2 lety +6

    Soul food was the only one I liked because it maintained the character of the bass, the rest sounded mid scooped to me.

    • @jjerkamillo
      @jjerkamillo Před rokem +1

      Exactly, I can't imagine those super scooped tones would sit well in a mix.

  • @RootsBassCanada
    @RootsBassCanada Před 4 lety +5

    I like MXR one. Sounds sick!

  • @zeppelinboys
    @zeppelinboys Před 4 lety +1

    Nice to see you both back! Great playing as usual.

  • @revival18
    @revival18 Před 4 lety +2

    1st place Billy Sheehan... 2nd place DarkGlass... 3rd place Soul Food, but let me tell you who is god among this one... Alpha Omega Ultra, sweet as pie!

  • @vidarfro
    @vidarfro Před 4 lety +15

    Love these videos. Nathan and Lee are great. (PS. Finland is not in Scandinavia, only Norway, Sweden and Denmark :)

    • @nathanking1970
      @nathanking1970 Před 4 lety +1

      Sorry!

    • @isetta4083
      @isetta4083 Před 3 lety +1

      God I'd hate to see you encounter the people that say the baltics are Scandinavia

    • @seppoinnanen5577
      @seppoinnanen5577 Před 9 měsíci

      Actually, we Finns DO belong to Scandinavia, whatta heck 😱

  • @bassmandudge
    @bassmandudge Před 4 lety +9

    I have the Sheehan drive..it is AWESOME. You need to do a full review of it as I don't think Nathan got to grips with it. There is so much tonal variation achievable. It is also (I think) the only pedal there that actually splits your clean tone and keeps it clean. So you can pick your level of gain and add whatever volume level of gain back to the clean signal. So its a mix not a blend....Also the trs send and returns on the side add a new dimension...so I have an oc2 in the clean loop...another compressor in the drive loop..but you can run a whole line of effects in the 2 loops and mix them back on the pedal. Or go direct out to 2 amps. Then there's the internal dip switches...one alters the boost level one alters the amount of compression. Then there's the fact that you can swap out the opamp drive chip on the board to any other 8 leg opamp drive for different tonality. ... Sorry I think you said the Darkglass was the most versatile.... not a chance and at nearly £50 cheaper you really need to be into your brands to pay the extra for the DG. So please do a full review and be even more surprised at how good it is....

  • @paulsummerside
    @paulsummerside Před 4 lety +3

    Boss quite typically was just a box of fizz. All the others were great. For me it would be a toss up between the MXR, Soul Food and the EBS. Unsure about the Dark Glass.
    I would quite happily have both the MXR and the Soul food on the same board.

  • @pCeLobster
    @pCeLobster Před 4 lety +5

    Nathan makes every video feel like a Christopher Guest awkward improv scene.

  • @BreakupBass
    @BreakupBass Před 2 lety

    The Sould Food and MXR for me! i own the Bass Soul Food but just ordered the MXR bass overdrive.

  • @akesvensson3778
    @akesvensson3778 Před 4 lety +1

    Friday party! Again! Thanks guys! May Andertons rule the market!

  • @midtown3221
    @midtown3221 Před 3 lety +4

    Who else loves the Boss Bass Driver? MXR Bass Overdrive slaps too!

  • @roshanthapa7075
    @roshanthapa7075 Před 3 lety +2

    14:15 that tone 😍

  • @Muppio
    @Muppio Před 4 lety +3

    Close one between Darkglass and the EBS.

  • @rexsolomon6325
    @rexsolomon6325 Před 4 lety +1

    Where have you guys been?!?! You guys round out Pete and Lee and Sounds Like perfectly. Keep playing more!!!

  • @AdamManley7
    @AdamManley7 Před 3 lety +7

    The boss pedal had the drive way too high causing the excessive fizz, lower drive increase level

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain Před 4 lety +3

    I want that fuzz bass sound from the first Dirty Harry movie soundtrack....that was nasty and sooo groovy!

  • @lowtone1778
    @lowtone1778 Před rokem

    You guys are my favorite bass noodlers! Great review as always!

  • @musicalgroovesaucet.v.1789

    Billy’s pedal kills them all.

  • @georgewidmeriv701
    @georgewidmeriv701 Před 3 lety +1

    Between the darkglass and soul food in my humble opinion for different variations of sound and punch 🤜

  • @AMBowers29
    @AMBowers29 Před 4 lety +1

    The EHX sounded great during the outro. I like the "hair" it gives

  • @waltertav
    @waltertav Před rokem

    You guys are ridiculous(ly) entertaining and informing! Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @timchounard3851
    @timchounard3851 Před 4 lety +1

    Great reviews! By the way, ANXIOUSLY awaiting the new Fender Ultra Bass reviews!!!

  • @gustavosanches2424
    @gustavosanches2424 Před 3 lety +1

    Bass Soul Food is a modified klon centaur, i guess it only distorts de high frequencies, it would explain why the treble control has the huge influence on amout of drive.

  • @chrishepburn1503
    @chrishepburn1503 Před 4 lety +9

    The EHX Bass Soul Food actually sounds great on guitar as well. Better than the original pedal.

  • @taylorpearcy319
    @taylorpearcy319 Před 4 lety +2

    B3k sounds amazing

  • @ndboxoffrogs
    @ndboxoffrogs Před 4 lety +7

    The Earthquaker Devices Plumes sounds amazing on bass from what they've shown, might be worth a look.

    • @pCeLobster
      @pCeLobster Před 4 lety +2

      It loses a good amount of low end. Great pedal, I really love it. But I use it for guitar, not so much for bass.

  • @stephaneaudet
    @stephaneaudet Před rokem

    I love MXR.I have GT-OD for my guitar sound and i recommand this brand.

  • @flatgstring
    @flatgstring Před 3 lety +1

    Lee is a kick ass bass player !

  • @CQJR007
    @CQJR007 Před 3 lety +1

    Forgot about the pedals there.... great playing..

  • @PushSueAside
    @PushSueAside Před 4 lety +2

    Tho I was not present, I was pleasantly surprised as well. Cheers

  • @ernestfoss
    @ernestfoss Před 2 lety

    I Have the Darkglass,. The Darkglsss to me sounds more like a natural tube break- up, or Amp overdrive sound. The bass sound I not he bass sound, but the bass sound can combine with a distorted guitar. The sound blends

  • @bourianboubbov9937
    @bourianboubbov9937 Před rokem

    Thanks for the vid guys! MXR niice fuzz. Got some cool colours. EH also good but felt like a little work-y to get some audible variation. Sorry Darkglass, straight back out of my room! The emperor's new clothes! BOSS hs the angry bee there but has a character. Hands down best of them all if there could be only one-EBS! So MANY different tones. Many years ago O had an EBS bass pedal, sold it very quickly. But this! Covers a lot of ground.

  • @ulfgj
    @ulfgj Před rokem

    that ending riff just kills! :D

  • @Rabbit895
    @Rabbit895 Před 3 lety

    Soul food for me please. i already on a BK7 which is awesome, good work guys. Thanks

  • @L0nn13_c0
    @L0nn13_c0 Před 9 měsíci

    MXR bass overdrive crushes.

  • @marcblum5348
    @marcblum5348 Před 2 lety

    Very positively surprised by the EHX. Very organic touch.

  • @liys540
    @liys540 Před 3 lety

    my choices of bass drive
    1. ebs Billy Sheehan drive deluxe pedal
    2. soul food
    3. dark glass micro tube

  • @edwinhernandez9276
    @edwinhernandez9276 Před 3 lety +1

    Which bass pedal is the worst???🤔

  • @RicardoMontee
    @RicardoMontee Před 3 lety +1

    ahahahah, "Start on your end or mine?" 2:46

  • @gorillafunk725
    @gorillafunk725 Před 2 lety +2

    Opinions are like assholes. Everybodys got one. Ha! So here's mine. Billy Sheehan pedal EXCELLENT! What a refined useful and intelligent use of compression! EH Soul food next for that old school subtle enhancement. Dark glass not bad I must say. Old school fart taking a shine to new school. The rest Bah! 👎 Cheers this was helpful.

  • @zennjimm
    @zennjimm Před 2 lety

    Love you guys. You make my G.A.S attacks fun. And I caught you playing Shy Boy young man...

  • @sj830925
    @sj830925 Před rokem

    That finger technique!✌️⭐️

  • @ShaWar102
    @ShaWar102 Před 2 lety +1

    Of these 5, the Billy S pedal has the most diversity and a compressor.

  • @TonyPuleo1
    @TonyPuleo1 Před rokem

    Best example of the EHX Soul Food on the web and it one me.

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 Před 4 lety +6

    The Boss was the only pedal here that I didn't like. As Nathan says, it's very fizzy. To me the two best ones are the Darkglass and the EBS. The Darkglass seems to be able to do everything that the MXR and the Electro-harmonix could do and the EBS had something going on that was totally different from any of the others. For a second the EBS had a tone that reminded me very much of Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) by Metallica.

    • @edbutler3
      @edbutler3 Před 4 lety +2

      He had the drive maxed the whole time. I don't own the pedal, but I think it might sound better with the drive lower. Almost seemed like he was trying to make the Boss pedal sound bad... No conspiracy theory though -- probably more of an oversight.

    • @paoloburroni6397
      @paoloburroni6397 Před 4 lety

      @@edbutler3 exactly, I own the boss and it sounds really good, they were just moving the knobs to fast keeping the drive at max all time.

    • @joeltorres2733
      @joeltorres2733 Před 9 měsíci

      I have the bb1x and it is one of the best that boss has released in recent years, it is not an Overdrive, it is more of a sansamp style preamplifier, you make the most of it when combined with another pure overdrive pedal

  • @airfrankenstein
    @airfrankenstein Před 3 lety +1

    what guage stings?

  • @carpediemarts705
    @carpediemarts705 Před 3 lety

    And with any of these pedals, it's all how you turn the knobs PLUS whatever your amp does PLUS how you play.

  • @MsCellobass
    @MsCellobass Před 2 lety

    You guys are all over the place on showing and describing each box.

  • @johnnykos5262
    @johnnykos5262 Před 4 lety +1

    The MXR for me !!! It's fits perfectly to my style ...
    I have the soul food and i really hate it :P
    I'll go for the MXR soon

    • @RefRMart10
      @RefRMart10 Před 4 lety

      Johnny Kos what do you like to play? New to bass buying my first pedal. From your comment, my ears 100% agreed with yours lol. I hated the soul food as well the the mxr was my favorite

  • @homeslice1479
    @homeslice1479 Před 4 lety

    I listened with headphones and could barely tell a difference between they turned up the Clean knob on the MXR. To be fair, I thought it retained a lot of nice low end even without it on.

  • @wskgarrison9133
    @wskgarrison9133 Před 4 lety +2

    Maybe I missed it, but what is Lee playing with (pickups) and through (Amp)? The pedals sounded great, but a lot of the sound can be attributed to his playing and dry tone.

  • @haus05
    @haus05 Před 4 lety +4

    nice to see a video where the fender ultra series anything isn't shoved down my throat

  • @hrvojebartulovic7870
    @hrvojebartulovic7870 Před 7 měsíci

    no boss sd2 in crunch mode?

  • @tobiewharton1328
    @tobiewharton1328 Před 9 měsíci

    Interesting. I don't think any of them sound bad but the MXR is definitely in distortion territory for me.
    I use both the EHX and Boss quite regularly. The EHX's mid-forward tone is just brilliant in a band context - that's lost here. The Boss is principally a preamp (with a balanced out) with some colour; the high gain settings here do it no justice.
    I realise this is now somewhat dated but I do wish these guys would be a little more subtle with the settings comparisons and a little more informed prior to testing; I don't feel that I've come away with a useful enough introduction on these models to take a punt on any of them and certainly wouldn't have bought the two I currently own off the back of it.
    The guys are excellent players, with a good rapport but I find the content pales in comparison to Andertons guitar equivalents, which is a real shame.

  • @jacksparr0w300
    @jacksparr0w300 Před rokem

    Wow great video

  • @mauvepiiink
    @mauvepiiink Před 4 lety +2

    0:59 Nathan ALMOST got away with that attempt to hide that rejected hi five.

  • @miladbaygan10
    @miladbaygan10 Před 4 lety +1

    Where are you Lee?! We miss you!

  • @kevin.waldron
    @kevin.waldron Před 4 lety

    the B3k is such clean drive. I love anything darkglass makes

  • @Skoora
    @Skoora Před rokem

    The soulfood sounds like it would cut really well in a mix.

  • @denis7868
    @denis7868 Před 3 lety

    Do you have a problem with your volume knobs, it is very soft!

  • @RicardoMontee
    @RicardoMontee Před 3 lety

    3:33 Add in a clean signal to the amp, from the bass. ie: not overdriven

  • @piedpeter1
    @piedpeter1 Před 3 lety

    DARKGLASS #1 period.

  • @WormholeDreams
    @WormholeDreams Před rokem

    You guys kick ass!

  • @imt2798
    @imt2798 Před 4 lety

    Great video! Also lee reminds me of gareth from the office 🙈

  • @SixDasher
    @SixDasher Před 3 lety

    Is the BB1X an actual overdrive pedal though?

  • @AngelDeVille
    @AngelDeVille Před 4 lety

    Stacking a Soul Food (bass or regular) with a mojomojo is pure magic.

  • @emmawebber9438
    @emmawebber9438 Před 4 lety

    Lee, you were, 'Having it off' with the Billy Sheehan pedal... Really?? The mind boggles.

  • @owenmasters4365
    @owenmasters4365 Před 4 lety +2

    Fulltone OCD for me

  • @urbangorilla33
    @urbangorilla33 Před 9 měsíci

    What happens if you put a bass through a regular guitar overdrive pedal (or any pedal designed for guitar)? Will it damage the pedal? Does it depend on the volume?

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Low end loss is inevitable with a drive pedal unless it has an explicit bass boost or sends through some of your clean signal. Also, a lot of guitar overdrive pedals may have a hi pass filter built in, which would chop off your low end, which may or may not be what you're looking for.
      For example, Cliff Burton of Metallica used a fuzz wah in toe down position for his lead tone, so lots of upper mids for clarity but the low end is chopped off. Justin Chancellor of Tool uses a Rat and a Wah in toe down for solo tones, same thing. Those are for distorted solo tones, and probably aren't what you're looking for in a bassline tone.
      I'm not familiar with bass guitar damaging any kind of pedals, never heard of damage happening, but I'm not an engineer and don't know everything. I use my guitar pedals on bass; the main concern is if it sounds good (some do, some don't). The main concern about damage when crossing the bass and guitar streams is speaker damage. Damage comes from a bass through a guitar cab whose speakers can't handle the recoil from the low frequencies of the bass will blow the speakers, or playing guitar through a bass cab with a horn (tweeter) that will be blown by the high frequencies of the guitar. To my knowledge its the speakers you have to worry about.
      I would ask for advice from qualified personnel before playing any guitar through a bass speaker or bass through a guitar speaker.

    • @urbangorilla33
      @urbangorilla33 Před 4 měsíci

      @@swissarmyknight4306 Thanks, that makes sense.

  • @baxtergray5770
    @baxtergray5770 Před 4 lety +2

    The absolute expressions on these guys faces

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale Před 3 lety +2

    Less banter, more technical please! PS. Just bought the Soul Food from your weblink...

  • @emilschnell6404
    @emilschnell6404 Před 4 lety

    What bass is that?

  • @prescottmajette5290
    @prescottmajette5290 Před 4 lety

    I can see about 2 of these overdrives cutting through the mix while retaining some ass. Mixer and wet/dry blend ftw.