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These 3 Tubes Will Cool Our House In Sweltering Heat | Geothermal Cooling
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- We install the final 3 tubes for our earth tube air conditioning system and all 3 are going into the same trench for a special reason.
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I’m a firefighter and y’all being in that 6 foot deep trench gives me anxiety. You should watch some videos on trench collapse.
I had the same thought
Although I don't disagree with you, AZ soil is like concrete out there. In IA (where I'm at) there would need to be all kinds of support.
Over here in Yuma you could make sun dried bricks out of this dirt
Sandy and loamy collapses........you need a pick just to dig 3 inches in these parts........not a lot of collapsing in the grand canyon........take a look at monument valley too
With all due respect, you sir really need to see Fresno, Forestierre underground gardens.......zero cave-ins
Great job you too. We saw you on the tractor on Davis road last week. I’m the one who waved you down. I forgot to tell you that we purchased some land, and live about six miles from you. If you ever need help feel free to call .
Ok, I will!
You two … not you too
You guys are rough and tough, i built my off grid stead not to far from your stead, but by myself, me myself and i, it's been a challenge. Love your cistern, shelter and now your thermal air exchanger, nice. Hope you don't run out of money or energy, and hope you find the end game, very interesting to watch your channel. 🙆♂️👍
its a lot cooler to work down in the trench instead of up in the sun. good thinking
I love watching you all move ahead... very inspiring... keep on going!!!
"Kyle wherever you are you're appreciated" lol idk why but I got a pretty good laugh out of the whole Kyle thing.
If you ever want more cooling, or some heating, I've used a twin-duct portable AC unit with a earthtubes and it works really well. If you have off-grid solar, between the reduced temperature difference making the compressor use less energy while running, and the runtime cycle, it ended up using 1/3rd the electrical energy as it did just piped to atmosphere.
I like your thinking sir
Hi guys, great video. I am curious and have a few questions about the set-up. Why go with drainage holes instead of a sump? Did you take any precautions other than gravel to prevent dirt infiltration? I believe there will be suction caused by the venturi effect through your drainage holes which will pull dirt in. Why not wrap some sort of geotextile around the pipes? I would also be concerned about the drainage holes ultimately becoming plugged. It would of course take years before that would occur. I am also curious in why you chose for an open system instead of a closed system. Keep up the hard work!
I don’t know much about youtube algorithm but seems to me that even other you tubers that have been at it for a long time have been struggling lately. I constantly have to resubscribe to channels I have been subscribing to for a long time. Will miss you.
Good to make sure you're still subscribed.
Me too
Making good progress. I hope those tubes once buried will supply all the cool air you need in the new part of the homestead.
This fella's voice sounds like the old timer from the Red Green show! Right on!
Exactly!!!
I considered the geothermal cooling tubes back in the 80's as I built an earth berm house but didn't now wish I had. Love you content my friends.
You still can.. Go rent an excavator
Your content is a brilliant blend of innovation and practicality, showcasing your commitment to sustainable living. Each video is a testament to your creativity and resourcefulness, as you explore cutting-edge solutions like geothermal cooling. Your ability to make complex topics accessible and engaging is truly remarkable, inspiring viewers to embrace eco-friendly practices. And I am Floating Village Life
Watching CZcams work together like that is a very beautiful site and watching you playing those pipes. I’m learning a lot so you guys even so I’m not able to do that kind of work anymore since I’m up in age 66 years old now but I’m watching CZcams beautiful peopleand I wish I thought it doing that kind of stuff back in my younger days get out of this we are in and being in town back out in the country again where I belong
What I am interested in what kind of calculations did you use to determine how much cooling capacity you would get using the total length of tubing you are using? It looks also like your tubes are 7 feet below grade. How did you learn what depth you needed to be most effective in the cooling you are expecting to receive?
😂🤣😂A bird in the Trench is worth 2 in the Bush, yur killin me Jimmy! LOL , that was funny, i even heard Jess laughin. All those pipes thanks to Kyle R. Too much. 😁😁Im beat too, spent 4 hours in the heat this mornin organizing 1 of my garages... 3 years later. Found all kinda things i been needing. 👍never done on the Ol homestead. Put that tractor to work Bubba🔧🛠️🔧Congrats on yur Cooling Tubes.🙏🙏Be blessed ya all..
, is it correct , the holes in pipe & orientation ?🤔
Love un’s informative videos. Much love from Appalachia Kentucky.
@@terryyounts8220 Haven't heard the phrase...un's...in a lifetime! Thanks for the memories.
@@EmptyHandshakeYour very welcome
Thanks so much you guys for all your videos and special thanks for explaining more about how to do the cooling system. I look forward to seeing you finish the rest of rhe system, and all the stuff on your homestead! I sure appreciate you taking us along on the journey and sharing your joy and love for each other 😊
Maybe a 22.5° elbow instead of 45° elbow will help. Keep up the good work. Peace ✌️
8:40 that gravel shot ! , Oh , u don't ever know what's under your feet !😮
1/8th bend ! YES!
1/8 th bend is 45 ,,16 bend is 22.5.
@@gershhayes796 NOT a plumber, I guess!
Awesome job 💯👍👍. You people Rock 🌻 lots of love and hugs to you all from Indiana USA 🌻🌻🌻
I had a buddy put geothermal tubes into his solar greenhouse. He plugged them up and never used then due to the threat of legionaries' disease. He said that a heat exchanger must be used to prevent a direct air exchange. All bacteria require to live is warmth, darkness and moisture and the PVC tube provide all of that. Be safe while you are being free.
He has more chance of contracting legionnaires from his potting soil :)
Next time Duct tape the glue and primer cans together. Pan for gold in a few spots. A good hair dryer will soften the pipe for bending, have a wet rag on hand to freeze the hot pipe when it is just right.
So close! I'm glad you're not stuck backfilling those trenches by hand, what a huge project. I can't wait to see what comes next!
Do you have any idea how dangerous that trench is? A friend of mine lost his son because of a trench collapse.People always think it won't happen to them.Please just Google trench collapse for your state and I bet theres 2 or 3 deaths every year..You're by yourself too.Please be safe
Learn about soil types. Cinderblock walls will collapse before that trench will.
@@lawnbear5958 I'm just concerned for your safety .I didn't mean to sound like I was putting u down
@kim0755 sincerity? What a unique experience on the internet.
Thank you for your concern, your sincerity, and the most memorable experience I've had in the comment section.
Hey good afternoon you guys hope you guys have a wonderful day it looks good I don't think there's nothing wrong with it keep up the good work that's a lot of work that you guys are doing but I'm proud of both of you keep up the good work
I installed a French drain on my property and to keep the holes from being clogged with dirt I wrapped the pipe in water permiable fabric first then covered with gravel. I just got the ideal that a French drain could also be used for cooling (since it is 6 feet underground) in the summertime if you design in a few air passages (this could work).
You need a T on your water collection. Add a T inline with a 24” down piece and add a threaded cap. It collects the debris that lands on the roof. Makes filtering later much easier and less debris in tanks. And if you screen the dirt you dug out you would have your rock for the trench. Also, you don’t need primer on pvc or ABS pipe when you use red hot. Save that money!
Can't wait to see the finale of this process. Hadn't really considered Geothermal cooling up until recently and I discovered this channel and been watching through the vids. Keep them coming.
Hey Jimmy you could fill one of those water tanks with your Sweat alone, thats some Graft you have put into those trenches.
Looks amazing Mr Jim ,always great help Jess !
Looking good. Go, go, go, go dynamic duo. Love and respect to all.🎉❤
A coworker's husband had a business designing and installing earth tube cooling/heating systems. He made a lot of money without ripping off his customers.
I enjoying you show for many years. Keep up the good work!
That rain was welcomed in az. I have friends in Golden Valley and Kingman. Love watching your videos p.s. like the tape on your wife shoes i been there too. Keep up the awesome videos
I work heavy equipment and ive seen trenches cave in. Please be careful. Be safe. Never enter with out shoring or the right barriers to protect your life. Especially in the desert the soils can be very lose and not stable
Very smart doin the glueing in the trench for the reasons you mentioned. Secondly, you are definitely using the best glue, Red Hot, with the primer due to your pipes being larger than 2 inches in diameter. I have only installed sprinkler systems over the last 30 + years and Red Hot is by far the best product. As you already know, saving a few pennies on your glue is not worth it in the long run.
I'm so impressed with your progress. I'm excited to see the final result and cool air
Beautiful with the lights and darks of the mountains from the sun setting..glad you could save money for yout trailer load.. visiting family-good to stay in touch in person, and wonderful to be following your progress
Great job and thanks for your patient explanation of your process. You answered some of my questions!
That looks awesome 👏
Suggest you shelter those poly tanks from the sun it'll bake em in one summer, plus plastic breaks down with that heat, and although in trace amounts, do you still want that stuff on or in your body? Great video btw!
I haven't been around in a while but I have to say, your dog looks like he is doing better. I will be downloading some of this info since I'm also in the rural SW mountains and hoping to do geothermal someday.
Thank you. You two work so amazing together 😊
Man! Huge respect, guys.
Your best idea was to get Jess as your wife. You two were made for each other. I can feel your tired ness through the screen. My husband has been a builder all his life and loved it but he was always dead tied at the end of each day.
Wow! Love your Dedication. Sending more Power to ya.
4:04. , well worth taking the time to do it right , safe.👍
Maybe instead of using 45° use 2 22.5° and rotate them to fit...
Im getting worn out watching you work so hard him!!! Thankyou n Jesse for my favorite show
New sub here hello from remote rural off grid , solar and wind Australia nice work indeed. Opal miner here and I have plumbed an unused shaft same principle cold air from about 30 feet deep and into the house added a 12V push fan integrated into the mine workings it gets to the high 40-50 degrees here in summer, the mine air temp is about 22 degrees constant. Can see how this works nice indeed pressure differential, I get to feel that down the mine when a low pressure system is coming through have multiple shafts so it breaths just like a cave.
Omg that’s awesome getting the ac pipes in many blessings from North Texas ❤
I can't wait to see the finished project! Really enjoyed the videos on this project so far. Keep up the good work!
PVC pipes should not be buried with straight gravel. Earth movement will cause the gravel to cut and compromise the pipes. A layer of gravel with 20 inches of sand around the pipes will be a better long-term improvement. A friend of mine bought a mobile home park and is constantly replacing old gravel bedded pipes and using sand to protect the new pipes.
Thanks sand makes sense and I was uncomfortable with gravel directly on the pipe
I suggest you paint all of your water tanks to prevent alga growth in your water. An acid etch on the outside will help the paint to stick.
Also, getting into a trench like you did is a very dangerous thing. I am glad you were not hurt.
Thanks my paint flaked off like theirs
What do you use for acid etch?
@@BadChad-tn3ii I used a chemical that they had at work that they used for cleaning parts for painting. I have heard that cleaning vinegar will also work but it may take more than one application.
@@harpintn ty
So, from your large (20 x 110) metal roof rain collection, looks like your annual 12 inches of rainfall should give you 15,600 gallons per year just from that source. Then you have several other small sources for utility water that are not included in this calculation. Been thinking though.... truly, the vegetables are the next most important thing (since you have already fabricated a decent main water collection/storage system). My thought is that you will need more water for the vegetables/gardens than for all other water needs combined.
Looks like Weat texas, AZ or Nevada....you can do the holes in the pipes for drainage. I'm in the S.E., going to use a sealed system with antifreeze as holes or even simple sealed pipes would cause a lot of mold/water issues. Another good reason to do it in the trench? Shade.
We’ve got a new fashion Swamp cooler 😂and it’s runs forever off of solar power, No you won’t freeze but we comfortable during these 103 degrees feels like temperatures, humidity has been off the charts!
Awesome work guys! Was thinking you would put some garden fabric over the tubes to help with the soil staying out. Just sayin.
Just subscribed to your channel. Love what you guys are doing. "By the sweat of your brow.... You shall eat bread". Great ideas and the strength you both have (sometimes 3 of you, with 2 four legged children),. Very inspiring. MOST HIGH BLESS.
Definitely sticking around to see how things work out with this cooling system looking forward to it!
Hi all looking great but have you thought about radon gas coming in to the house from the pipe's. Keep up the cool vid's.
How ??? Hahaha
Most Excellent! Thank you for the visit and the information!
Check for RADON in dirt and mitigate.
Very interesting build, thanks for sharing. Shortcut to info 22:30 , let me know if there is a spot i missed more information about the 3 tubes.
Looking good. A nice green solution. Will be interesting to see the results with the temperature changes.
Are you guys ever going to finish of the lime coat on the top of the dome? Every monsoon season i wonder, with potential cob loss.
Excited to see what temperature you get in the root cellar! Here's hoping for 50F!
Your endurance is showing!
Just a silly observation, maybe not an issue but, with the open holes is there a chance you could be picking up radon gas and concentrating it in your house?
Here’s a tip with plumbing. Primer is not needed on pvc if there will be no pressure on the pipe. Save your money.
And primee is just glue with bits of pvc mixed in
I also noticed that he is using Red Hot glue, which doesn’t need primer. Not talking crap just noticed ,I’ve laid a lot of pipe. He’s the one in the trenchs not me. Love the content here.
I recently looked into spekboom! 🔥
Amazing desert plant!
Dude, I've worked on filling drainage trenchs with a wheelbarrow and gravel before and that is backbreaking work. I recently saw a video that will save your body by building a dumping trailer mechiniszm into a trailer like yours for $50 and it does not require lifting the front end of the trailer up. You can find the video on CZcams entitled "Best DIY Dump Trailer 50$". This trailer uses a heavyduty membrame that you just handcrank. If you make one of these you can just backup the trailer to the ditch and crank out the gravel. Not sure how much weight this kind of setup will actually handle, but I think it would also be possible to connect up a motorized wrench motor to make dumping. easier. Hope this helps....
😂❤🎉🎉 Gosh! I was hoping to see one project done in a post too! So close. Well, that just means next week this will be finished and you'll be back on the overhead ❤❤ With the rains coming, I'm sure you want to keep the area dry as possible. It's SO FLIPPIN hot right now, I know that is exhausting as well. Great job folks!
Wow a lot of shovel work ! I sometimes find myself doing the same, We do what we can with what we have :) 👍Glad to see your water supply is holding up well :) Great AC system i hope works awesome for you, I'm slowed down a bit with an injury but still making a little progress at my cabin, Awesome job keep it rolling !
I would check the radon gas content of the return air.
It will be sucking fresh air from above ground at the far end from their structure. See 23:57 of the video where the pipe of the 1st closed trench at the far end is left above ground. Something like this is used in EarthShip homes. They seem to have gone with the most fresh air with moderate cooling due to length of tube used. Considering the solid earth bag home, I can't fault them for wanting a good supply of fresh air. Sucking in fresh air to their structure from a screened/filtered inlet at least 3 feet above ground with the inlet facing down towards the earth is a tried and true source of air. This air inlet design is used in bunkers.
@@saxonsoldier67 I would build a cob structure to house the inlets, that way air that goes in is already cool, plus you protect the inlet from rain splash and dusty wind.
Some folks have used perforated pipes, the ones used for "French drains". This helps with water accumulation from condensation, and helps evacuate saturated soils after lots of rain, if on slope, of course.
once you discover the problem with your set up just know those tubes cam be lined with a durable flexible liner to seal all the holes then filled with water and antifreeze so you can run a closed loop geo thermal system.
Did your owl house bring in any owls?
Great to see the progress, must be very exciting.
tHanks for the video.. !
Love the goals and teamwork. Godspeed
You built a nice leach field?
I have several of the totes. Im trying to figure a way to get the gravitation pull , maybe solar with limited pumping, the poly baking in the sun transfers polychems into the water. I will figure a way to protect tanks from heat and specifically direct sun. Thanks for content we are leaning a lot.
You probably have already thought of, or been suggest of, by someone, but if you cover the outside frame of the ibc totes with something ,perhaps roofing, or polebarn metal. It will keep algae from growing g in the water. Dan S from Michigan and Texas
I always thought it would work great to have a big hill behind the house with underground tubes going up the hill. Natural convection would cause the warm air from upstairs to flow up the tubes and cooler air would flow downhill into the basement.
I did pretty much exactly the same thing except...
No holes in the pipe and no gravel.
My build site slopes downhill, so my 3 geothermal pipes drain naturally out the intake end. Plus I've added a snorkel for winter when the intake end is burried under deep snow.
This 120 foot run of three 4" inch Sewer pipes burried 6 foot down works fantastic...
During the hottest summer days. The system brings 62-degree air into the house when the outside temperature is over 100 degrees.
Best part is I'm using two 3 watt computer fans to circulate the air.
Very little electricity, plenty of cooling...
You should measure the cfm leaving the tubes. I`d be surprised if its more than 30cfm per tube. If its 30 cfm and you have 100F in and 62F out, the ground/mass out to 12" from the tube wall (basically 28" in diameter incl the tube) will increase in temperature by an average of 1.6F per hour. Your outlet temperature wont remain at 62F, it will gradually increase. If you run the fans at night when its cooler and reroute the exits outside the house, you can dump the stored heat and increase the cooling capacity for the following day.
@JohnGuest45
Basically I'm already doing what you recommended.
When the weather is hot. I use one of the 3 ducts as a recirculation loop and I choke down the inlet to limit the heat coming into the system.
My house is pretty tight with roughly R40 insulation and a ton of thermal mass inside the insulation envelope...
Like I mentioned in My original comment. I'm using a pair of computer fans to circulate the air so the air moves through the system pretty slow.
I also run the recirculation loop during the winter when the outside air temperature is below freezing.
This way I'm not bringing sub zero temperatures into the house that I have to heat. During winter the incoming air is usually closer to 50 degrees. Way better than the 8 to 15 degrees outside during the coldest parts of winter. Again with only a trickle of makeup air being allowed into the system...
I've never done the math on this.
I'm more of a fly by the seat of my pants engineer. I use the information I find tweeking it to meet my needs and to what make sense. This approach works well for me.
I'm 62 and have been using this approach all my life... My failures are rare enough that I keep on doing it because it works and I get good results...
Basically I'm already doing what you recommended.
When the weather is hot. I use one of the 3 ducts as a recirculation loop and I choke down the inlet to limit the heat coming into the system.
My house is pretty tight with roughly R40 insulation and a ton of thermal mass inside the insulation envelope...
Like I mentioned in My original comment. I'm using a pair of computer fans to circulate the air so the air moves through the system pretty slow.
I also run the recirculation loop during the winter when the outside air temperature is below freezing.
This way I'm not bringing sub zero temperatures into the house that I have to heat. During winter the incoming air is usually closer to 50 degrees. Way better than the 8 to 15 degrees outside during the coldest parts of winter. Again with only a trickle of makeup air being allowed into the system...
I've never done the math on this.
I'm more of a fly by the seat of my pants engineer. I use the information I find tweeking it to meet my needs and to what make sense. This approach works well for me.
I'm 62 and have been using this approach all my life... My failures are rare enough that I keep on doing it because it works and I get good results...
@@Brood_Master
The 130ft 4" tube will hold around 11.34 cubic feet of air. It wont take very long for that small volume of air to rise or fall to the ground temperature inside the tube. If you are adding a trickle, you will only get a trickle out. I`m not sure how you can recirculate air through a single tube, i guess you are linking the air intakes of two tubes to create a loop and using the outlets in the house as an intake and outlet. This would make the loop 260ft long, doubling the friction loss which would considerably reduce the output cfm of your fans.
Great progress, you two! (even though I still don't understand how your system works. Looking forward to when (if) you guys explain how it works.
When you put the pipes together use the 1/4 turn to spread the glue in the joint so you get a good weld.
O wish we had rain.. 6 fires, low humidity and wind here in Oregon 😢
Glad you have rain tho
i bien waching for a very long time i never miss a chow like woit your diong thank you
And what will you do with the condensation and possible breeding ground for things like Legionnaires disease?
Is Radon a concern as this feeds into house? Just a thought I don’t claim to be an expert or anything. This may not be an issue or worry.?
Jess looks like a lady that used to work in the post office of a college and I delivered Fdx to the place.
By putting all the gravel under it and holes in bottom of pipe, i don't see how you haven't created a massive radon collection system directed into the house. It's exactly the same process you did under the house for radon except this is a much longer collector and vented inside instead of outside
Radon through the plastic pipe? It is a gas, go and learn something.
@@mistersir8342 What are those round things drilled into the pipe....oh they are colled HOLES.
My radon collection system involves plastic pipe with holes on top of gravel@@mistersir8342
Everyone should be practicing the same system as they do in the green wall of Africa
So hoping to see plans you have for your Earthship....😊 Wish you would stack and weigh down the odd pieces of metal roofing, the wind can sail those into the side of your house or car windshield. It happened to me when I was in Arizona.
I put in over 2000 tons of fill and soil in my yard alone. I feel for you
Good progress. Do you plan to be in the house by winter?
She said those pipes would be bringing air into the house. Oh my God that's funny.
Excellent 😊🎉
I subscribed to your channel 🙏
Guys 45 yeArs ago I built and designed a passive solar home with an underground heating and cooling system.
The system runs for the cost of 2 small intake/entry fans. Why did you make such a long trench? You can install the pipes on 3 levels connected by T’s. Using schedule 40 PVC only!!!
Anything less than schedule 40 PVC 4” will NOT WORK!! If I can be of any assistance just ask. Btw, the house still works perfect with all the original fans. 👍
Good luck
Can you explain this a bit more please, or if you have a video link that would be great
Dang huge project. Great job.
Could have bought the pipe with holes 😂😂😂😂
Why not use some black leach field pipe? They're pre drilled and with some fabric or old used carpeting on top you'll save time.