3D Wooden Engraving | Laser Engrave 3D Coat of Arms
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2016
- This week we have a special treat, the mesmerizing 3D wooden engraving of the Canadian Coat of Arms using 1/4" solid maple wood. We used the relief mode in our JobControl software to auto-adjust the power of the laser according to the amount of gray shade in our 3D image. With stunning results!
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I used to own a laser (camtech) and when I saw this video title I had to see how it was done. Nice work.
Thanks Ryan! We appreciate it.
That track has got such a groove!!😎😎😎
That looks incredible to me
Thank you!
Great video!
+Proto3000 | 3D Printing | Rapid Prototyping | 3D Scanning Thanks guys!
If I were rich this is one thing I would get. For sure. Beautiful results.
Thanks! You dont need to be rich to own one. The machine is meant to make money not cost you money :)
@@TrotecLaserCanadahow much is it?
AWSOME....wish my laser would do that!!!!
I would love this job.
We do love working here! :)
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Very nice video, thanks! I'm working on my own version of 3D image processing for laser engraving. Is the Trotec Lightburn compatible?
This grate job boss
Thank you!
super!))
Thanks!
lol i remember the shop days where we used to burn/etch wood by hand
Good...
+B4RATO L3GAL Thanks!
How about creating a video that shows how to create the file that you are processing with your laser engraver ?
Start with the photo jpg or png and show the steps that you perform on it to create the multi-level grayscale image that you then provide to the program that drives your laser engraver.
I agree with this. Please please please show the process to convert illustration (flat 2d, or 2D with shading?) into 3D Grayscale. Is it all done in CorelDraw, or can you do it in Illustrator.
I’d youtube how to create height maps if you aren’t familiar ^
Or in a 3D software you can render depth maps of scenes aswell
Also, I’m wondering if there’s an automated setting in Job Control to vary the speed & power of each pass, or if you are simply manually altering the speed & power for each pass.
It's already automatically adjusting power/speed in relief mode to reflect the settings in your artwork (the whiter the less power, the blacker the more power)
Hi.
Thank you for this video. Why is this clear and does not exist in wood any black effect? what's your Postprocessing?
did it with speedy 100 40watt but it take alot of time but it is fun
nabil rahal thanks Nabil. yea the less watt the longer the engraving will take. We always recommend to get at least an 80w machine, because you never know when you might need that extra power.
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Looks really cool, I love the cleanliness of the outcome!
Just one thing I thought I'd mention. You probably already noticed it, but in that print closeup you could see some pretty clear terracing along the two banners at the bottom as well as other areas with very gentle slopes. To fix this you might be able to make the laser burn at more precise powers. Since you're using a black and white image I assume that there's only 255 intensities that your laser can burn at. I noticed you mentioned that the raw image you gave to that company was a vector, but is the b&w image you got back a raster graphic?
Hi there, thannks! Yea it was actually a black and white 3D rendered TIFF file not a vector.
How to change y´the file into grayscale like this ( dark is deeper and light is higher). Im using coreldraw 2017
Olari Malk we used ArtCam to create a 3D rendered grayscale image. We heard you can do this on other 3D software like Rhino and SolidWorks.
Hi mate, what machine are you using? Is the machine overkill for this type of engraving?
Is the relief setting a special setting on the Trotec software or can any high end printer do that in raster?
Its specific to JobControl (Trotec) yes
@@TrotecLaserCanada Why you gotta lie like that any laser with a DSP can process these type of files.?
Hi, Michael from VSauce here. 😅
Hi, this was an interesting video as it is something that I am looking at starting at sometime in the near future but I am looking at something much smaller.
I'm not sure what other materials that can be etched or engraved on the type of etcher/engraver that can be used for wood, plastic etc. I'm not looking at the high powered engravers used for steel or other metals etc.
I have an idea for etching into Plaster of Paris to make molds.
I don't know if you have done any experiments or know if these machines are capable of such etching or if they might just cut straight through the material.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards.
+Terry Gissing Hi Terry, we are glad you are getting into the business. What do you mean by something much smaller? Are you talking about laser bed, if so our smallest machine (The Rayjet) comes on a 12" x 18" bed size.
If you're looking to do specifically 3D engravings, another good material to use (for molds) is Acrylic. We haven't tried plaser or paris but we've done terra cotta and rubber (not 3D though) with great success.
Thank you for your comments!
How deep can the engraver go into the wood? Would like to know what projects I can use this on instead of having a CNC mill this out on a piece of wood. Could it do 2 centimeters in depth of sculpting? I'm not talking about just plain cutting straight through.
Does anybody know if there are machines that can do this on aliexpres?
I'd love to buy one of these, but they are very pricey...
you can do what i did buy one of the cheap ones with a ruida controller and get lightburn or buy an even cheaper one and install a ruida controller.... recommend the first one if at all possible
Nice video! What do you do in the post processing, how do you remove the black spots?
Thanks! There are a few ways to remove burn marks. 1) use light woods like Maple with low power and multiple passes. 2) you can use a dremel with a non-metallic coil and just sand out any burn marks quickly. 3) you can even use water to wash the wood but careful not to use too much or else it will bend.
so satisfy video
How many time you need to run? I have a Trotec Speedy 300 80W and like to learn more detail about your setup and finish.
+Simon Huang Hi Simon, we have also used a Speedy 300 80w. There are many factors that you would have to play around with, generally we do about 3-4 passes. The first 2 passes would need more power and less speed (in order to get depth, 100 power, 25 speed), while the last 2 passes would need less power (in order to get detail, 70-100 power, 100 speed). We would then use an electric dremel tool to brush off any burning residue (although cleaning with brush and water/soap can also do the trick). Best wood to use in our experience is Maple (solid). We hope this would help start you off, but there is a lot of trial and error you would need to go through, it's not a simple engraving. Good luck!
@@TrotecLaserCanada how deep do you think you can get his results it of 60, 80, and 100w? Trying to determine if I'd be better off working on a cnc router, but only need to go 1/2 inch and all resolution gains are a big plus.
Can you make a video of the cleaning up process of the wood?
Thats a great suggestion! We deffinitly will.
Genau.. fragt sich keiner warum das im Abspann gezeigte Objekt kein bisschen verbrannt aus sieht...🤔
@@TrotecLaserCanada Did you ever make that video?
Corbin Linder hi guys no not yet
Plz try white Vinigar.
But what do you use to remove the residue, or charcoal from the laser burning?
We suggest using Birch or Maple wood for less burning, use less power with multiple passes and/or use a dremel tool to sand down the charring.
Thank you, -:). I thought you had some "Miracle Chemicals", -;). Myself I have good experiences with some 60 yrs. dried birch, - almost hard as glass. I also have good experiences with dried aspen, that will be very hard, which I lasered for printing plates. Also; it is a good idea to mention to your users that planed is far better than sanded.
Hi guys, what do you mean by planed?
Using a machine (or hand) planer instead of a sander. Sanding, if not down to micro sanding, always leaves a somehow larger surface area, - ( and down to smaller details, a sanded area leaves a some more dull surface, because the laser beam burns a little more around the area where it hits). Old, dried birch, was very hard, and gave a significant edge between where the laser beam hits and where it not hits. But since birch, like pine contains oil, the heat with get the oil up from the wood, and needs to be washed away. You should try long dried and therefore hardened aspen; it is also almost white, but will oxidize and be greyish of not surface treated after planing. Also aspen is a fast growing tree, and then the growth rings are wider, making less "interference" if you want a surface with less growth rings.
Very interesting, thank you for that!
Hi, wondering how you clean up the final product... seems like any manual sanding with a Dremel tool as you advised in your reply below would just damage the image? But perhaps I’m imagining something different from what you’re recommending.
Ah I found this: www.troteclaser.com/en-ae/knowledge/tips-for-laser-users/relief-engraving/
Thanks guys!
Thanks!
Soak the wood before so it doesn't burn, no soot
can I have the tiff file please , the files provided in the link above only have eps and cdr files , ty
Hi there, please provide your email address and we will send you the TIFF. Thanks
Thanks for all the videos, you guys are the best. I own a Speedy 400 (in Spain) and am looking at a Speedmaster and SP3000 to complete the lineup. I was wondering what the cleanup process involves, is that light sanding, blowing air... ? Thanks!
Hi Marcos! Thanks for the comments! There are a few ways including water with a brush. You can use a dremel tool with a light sponge head (something not rough or harsh). Most importantly is to have light woods like Maple.
@@TrotecLaserCanada thanks, I will try this when I get time, Keep the videos coming! :-)
@@binartfactory2598 precio tienes que preguntar a tu distribuidor local. Son máquinas caras que no tienen sentido para alguien que va a precio y no le ve sentido a pagar más por algo bueno. Pero si buscas calidad, precisión, sacar trabajo con la máquina sin andar perdiendo tiempo con ajustes y averías... Las trotec valen la pena! A mía no es flexx porque tengo aparte una speedmarker para metal. Pero creo que si tienes una sola, el tema flexx es muy interesante y ya cubres todo
Thanks! Can we do this with diode laser cutter?
Hello , you said that the maple is easy to clean up after engraving. Could you tell me how could you clean up the wood?
Hi, there are different ways to clean. The least expensive is to try it with water and a small brush. You can use a dremel tool with a non-metalic spunge to gently sand away any burn marks.
how do you clean up the black charring? especially in the detailed areas
They let the laser engrave again with low power.
@@TKommandant no, the low power is to give finer final detail. Removing the black hasn't been explained
Thanks for the video, it was really helpful.
I had a doubt regarding the gray-scale image, we make it on Corel Draw itself. I tried attempting it many times but it is still not giving this result on laser. Can you please let me know, how to generate that file exactly?
Hi there, first off what laser machine do you have? Do you have the grey-scale image of our Canada crest, or do you want to create a 3D image from scratch - for that we suggest the Aspire software.
I want to create an image from scratch. I've the Trotec speedy 400. Yes we have the aspire software too but can you let me know from where can i learn to operate that software in order to get such 3d engraving.
@@sanchna01 Here is a demonstration video on how to setup a file in Aspire! czcams.com/video/O-5QpgiZChg/video.html
Hi, is Speedy300 considered to be "3D
capable laser engraver"? thanks
+Erwin Lievre Hi Erwin, yes the Speedy 300 is capable for doing 3D, although as mentioned in the video the design process is longer and the engraving itself takes a longer period of time to do.
Friend ... is it possible to use a program to be able to laser cut the entire outline of a design already printed?
That is possible. We have a camera system called JobControl Vision, if you take a photo of the printed design size it to the physical piece and add registration marks around it (three 0.5" diameter solid black dots) you could laser cut the outline. It is possible but it would require some work.
Wow, very complex design that came out cleanly.
I was wondering if it is possible to do this in metal blanks essentially creating collectable or commemorative coins? I would estimate the process would involve multiple runs on the same piece for a deep engraving.
Also, is this laser capable, or can you recommend a model that will, cut through metal plates such as a Copper Sheet - 0.032 or 0.0216 thickness. Trying to find one that can make metal filigree to place into tables and such.
Hi! Our fiber and flexx machines can mark on Metal but they can't engrave it that deeply. You're better off using a 3D printer with a metal material, they make these now.
Some of our customers do use our SpeedMarker 300 to cut through thin sheets of metal but it is usually quite time consuming as these machines aren't built for metal cutting. If you'd like more info or to schedule a demo (if you're in Canada), please email us at Canada@troteclaser.com. Thanks!
Trotec Canada Thank you for the reply and information. I did not know about 3d print metal but not a route I would want to go yet.
I will keep your machine in mind though for wood engraving when i go that route. After comparing several videos of detail I really love how your machine was able to get the fine details and clean up some of the scorching.
Could you do this on softer woods using a 45 W laser?
Yep it shouldn't be a problem.
Have you guys considered syncing up a laser with a lathe to do this? Round stock carvings would be the next level IMHO.
Can you give us an example?
@@TrotecLaserCanada- Doing column-style elements Place a rotary setup at normal table level and move the Y-motion to rotary motion. If the axis of the rotation is variable in the direction of Z, you can do 1/4-section arc-prints that stand by themselves.
Granted it is a bit of work but it would add a new level of cool. Basically rotary milling code.
Hi, Can i do this with my speedy 300 and regular job control softwere or i need some add ons or something.
Beside this, what kind of file i need, what format? THANKS!
Hi Muzika, yes you can do it on a Speedy 300 with regular JobControl software. Any gray-scale file is fine to use, you would just set it to "Relief" mode in JobControl. The reason this particular application (the crest) is so complex is because we took a vector file, sent it to gantryco and they re-designed the image using ArtCam (3D software) in order to make the gray-scale very complex. The hard part lies in the artwork itself, any Trotec speedy laser can do the job.
How to create grayscale image?
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This machine can cut and engrave in 3D every materials like metals, plastic, wood, glass, crystals, fabric (synthetic, canvas, cotton, polyester, silk, satin, nylon..), carbon fiber, leather, anime, concrete, stone, granite, marble, polymers among other materials of different compositions and alloys; applying colors too?
Andy Torrealba wood and acrylic work best for 3D engraving
It could improve its modality for the other materials ...
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Im looking for a result like this, how much time did it takes to do your piece ?
About 30min
@@TrotecLaserCanada Ok, not that long then. Thank you
pro-cess? yep, 100% canadian through and through! :)
great engrave there. the key is to use a nice solid wood with consistent density throughout - avoid plywood.
Yes sir! True and proud :)
We found the best to use is Solid Maple.
have you tried MDF?
Yes we have. MDF is not as good as solid wood because there is more dust created by the burning, and it doesn't look as nice. Sure it's less expensive but you can see the difference in quality. If you are venting outside then dust isn't a big issue, but if you're using filters you're likely go through quite a lot of them if you're engraving 3D on MDF.
is it just work on wood or all typre
It works really well on Acrylic as well
whats the best dpi for trotec lasers? (image dpi)
Vsause music too loud
Seems rather labour and resource (cost) intensive, especially compared to a metal plate made in a foundry.
How much do you think the cost would be to machine a metal die with this degree of intricate geometry?
It is quite labour intensive, this is more to show the capabilities and details of the engraving quality then an optimal solution for high-volume production (specifically for the 3D engraving)
como faço pra produzir essas peças assim, tenho uma CO2 LASER
Buying a 3D Laser Engraver is fine but it is useless without the proper software.
What software is available that can duplicate any image in grey scale for 3D production & do you sell it?
Can I engrave in 3D any design idea I may have?
Rick Rodrigues Corel draw works great for photo editing and creation. You can duplicated your image using a hot key, then you can convert the desired layer into a different shade. To produce this 3D effect. I’ve personally never had problem using Corel, and there’s lots of educational video’s teaching one to use it on CZcams, I’d highly recommend. Good luck!
Thanks for the tip Tanner...will check it out.
Can you do that on a marble shower tile?
music too loud!
Is the graphic something you could share or direct where to buy?
Hi, yes we have the artwork on our Instructables page, but you need a premium account there now. We will create a blog with all the artwork in the coming month and put the link in the description of every video. You can send us a direct message on Facebook and we can send it to you directly.
Hi guys! Any something whith speed100- 60 watts уou can create or only with speed300-80?
+VAW MAN Hello! Yes you can do that on a 100 Speedy 60 watts, it may take you a bit more time.
We are interested in the Trotec laser machine.
Could you please send us its specifications with the price?
Does it mark metals like Aluminum and Copper?
Thank you
Hello, yes the Fiber or Flexx laser will mark Aluminum and Copper. If it's a CO2 you can use it on Anodized Aluminum. What country are you in? If you're in Canada please email sales@troteclaser.ca and we'll give you all the details. Thanks!
Would this work with metal?
please leave the bakground "music" in the background .50% volume .Ta
that vsause music
+Tom Ruhig Yes it is, we love vSauce!
What laser is this? Is it a diode laser?
How do they wok on teak wood?
Yes it does. You would just need to make sure it’s a light wood like maple or else it would char and you won’t see the image.
Could this be done on cylindrical surfaces?
Yes for regular 2D engraving, we're not sure regarding the 3D relief.
Is the input image raster or vector?
raster
Can this be done in metals such as Aluminum, steel, and titanium?
no, not with a co2 laser.. you can get a fiber laser and maybe do it.. not as well as wood though.
Hi Erwin, no unfortunately not - generally just Acrylic and Wood.
ok but not clear and what software u usig
Hi Raja, what's not clear? Software we are using to make the image from 2D to 3D is ArtCam, software for the laser is JobControl.
Does nitrogen help reduce laser burning ash ?
Yes we did hear that adding Nitrogen to the exhaust (air assist) will help but we have never tested it ourselves.
Can you fix this link please? Also in an .ai file or pdf? Thank you!
Not cheap, but ebony works great for 3D engraving.
Really? We've never tried it, is it not too dark for it?
I mean it depends on the look you are going for, but it comes out much smoother than maple does. We run it on our 500 watt kern and it looks great, not sure how the lower powered tubes would fair.
Well you may have to do it with a few passes on lower watt lasers. We'll give Ebony a try. Thanks for the tip!
Yeah I'm sure the 200w Trotec would be fine. Another tip is if you want to cut ebony, don't vector cut it. Instead engrave the vector path at high power and slow speed. Ebony is susceptible to catching on fire, but if you just nibble it away a bit at a time it does the trick.
Interesting, do you guys have air-assist on the Kerns? Trotec has a small tube near the laser head that pushes out air to prevent any flames.
vsauce background music
Yes it is, we love Vsauce!
is it possible to do this on stone?
emi moro 2D yes but 3D would be much harder and we never tried it.
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Whats the name of the song at the end i cant remember its name so frustrating
It's a sample from a jazz album, we don't have the name unfortunately.
Do you have the jazz album name? Appreciate your response
Found it - czcams.com/video/G_bXwaYY6NQ/video.html - around the 6th minute.
They licensed music from Jake Chudnow?
Yes we did.
Why do you monetize your channel kinda swampy.
How long did this take to engrave
About 30min because we did 4 passes. 3D engraving takes much longer, 2D would have taken about 3-4 min
we can engrave 3d with rayjet 30w ??
Technically yes, but it's not optimal for it.
I have a potential project that this might work well with. How can I try it? Is there a way of having a piece made without first buying the machine? What is the structure of your business? Do you sell the machine?
Hi there, yes of course you can bring your material and tested on our laser in one of our show rooms in Canada. Are you in Canada or another country?
@@TrotecLaserCanada Hi thanks for replying. I have a 3D file that I would like to make in wood. Is there a method for me to have it made and pay you for making it? I'm currently having it made in plastic, but I would really prefer wood.
Could I get this leser machine?
If I need some how can I get some
To me - with the same power and duration - the laser will cut at a different depth depending on the wood species (density etc).
So to me it doesn't seem convenient, I can't see how the cut depth can be accurate; unless you spend countless time calibrating the machine on each new plank..?
Hi Julien, you mean engrave instead of cut right? There's no need to calibrate the machine for each new plank, you just focus the laser onto the material and put it in "relief mode" in JobControl. Make sure your artwork is greyscale (preferably a 3D image, like the one we used). It's not that complicated to engrave on a laser, the hard part is the design and the time it takes for the laser to do a complex pattern like this.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I meant engrave, not cut.
I'm sorry but I still do not understand how the model's depth can be blindly replicated on any type of wood.
My point is that some woods are more dense than others, and I speculate that a given laser beam will go very deep in poorly densed woods, while it might only scratch the surface of very dense woods. So how do you ensure the laser engraves at the proper depth?
Thanks.
Hi Julien, from the woods we've tested in the video we didn't change the power or speed of the laser and the results were the same for all 5 wood types. There was more charring on some of the woods like the Spanish Cider (best wood to use for this application would be Birch).
That being said, we haven't tested the more dense woods, in which case you would have to do trial and error on the various wood types. The nice thing with our JobControl software is that once you find the right power/speed setting you can save it in the "materials" section, so you can have an unlimited amount of saved materials setting for each type of wood you are using.
can i engrave a stack of paper without during it ??
+jay vallo hi Jay. Yes you can just raise your speed and lower your power
A stack, yes but it depends how thick it is, usually 3-7 sheets but it all depends on the type of laser and wattage. You would need to test it a lot to see how much you can get away with.
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Don’t these machines use a TON of electricity?? And the music is too loud.
What machine is that?
That's our Trotec Speedy 300
Why doesn't anyone detail how to get all the burnt wood off???
We suggest to use light woods like Maple, always use solid wood not veneered or MDF. You can use a dremel tool or even a brush with water to take off any burnt residue.
Why does the music drown out what you are saying its hard to listen to
The close up still shows a rough finish. I expected smoother. He also said its labor intensive, so I wonder in how many hours this is made. Even wonder if its profitable.
Pau ca it took about 4 passes and 30min to make one. The laser is more ideal for 2D engraving for high volume production runs. The 3D engraving is more of a “wow” factor of what the laser is capable of.
@@TrotecLaserCanada I see, now. that makes sense. what machine should I get for 3d carving then?
Hi ! Great work BUT... what I don't like in your video is saying it took a fair amount of time doing the piece. Why don't you squarely tell how much time it took !!!
Thanks Benoit, it depends on the laser and wattage so we don't want to misrepresent. Also it really depends on how clear or detailed you'd like the image to be. 4-passes on a Speedy 400 100w laser would take about 30min to do a 5"x5" piece. Hope that helps. Thanks!
Its TOP SECRET.
And for that job you're better off using a resin 3d printer. Cool that a laser can do this though.
Hi Carlos, yes it's just another feature that the laser can do.
1:02 around 50 would you say?
Hi Hamish, it's not just one shade at 50% for this file it would likely be many shades of gray because of the complexity of the artwork file.
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How do I get one of the printer to buy?
Hi Davion, we did this job with a laser engraver not a 3D printer. What type of machine are you interested in?
The 3D engraver
Hi Davion, what country are you from?
how can i get the the cut file?
Hi, it's on our blog here: www.troteclaser.com/en-ca/blog-trotec-canada/3d-wooden-laser-engraved-crest/
Trotec Canada Thank you.
Happy to help!
The only 2 files that are available are the 2D CDR and EPS format files. Under the 3D file link, it links to the CDR file, not the 3D TIFF format file.
great video but skip the music -- it doesn't add anything, and in fact distracts, IMHO
Slightly lower volume compared to voice would help
How much price this mechine??
Hi there it depends on the country. Please visit the Contact Page on our website to find a local Trotec office. Website is www.troteclaser.com