Evinrude Motors No More...Now What? 20/20
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2020
- Where will I go, engine warranties, evinrude parts and what happens to the Iconic Evinrude Brand. This 20/20 is one I didn’t want to do but everyone has been asking. As I state in the video these are not statements or opinions from BRP just what I have heard so far from the public. Thanks to all the Evinrude staff and close friends I have made over the 20yrs. Hopefully our paths will cross again.
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I need your input on this situation. What outboard do you use and why?
Also, drop a comment saying you would like to win one of the Vice Versa hats! 👊🏼
Me and my dad used Mercury 150, we never have any problems with it!
Mercury they are high quality fast and reliable
I would buy the blue one
That is a super clean hat! I think that merc is the way to go. That g2 is a great motor but merc has done some super awesome things with their new 4strokes. Great power, hull shot, mid range and top end. Not to mention they sound awesome
Biggest fan right here
I've ran just about every brand possible engine out there, and now days they are all pretty flawless. my opinion is for you to pick what is best for you and SMC.
Very well said Scott and Kenny
Not if you work on them... I'm retired and help out at a shop when I feel like it, many out there with plastic carbs? Junk Yam all the way...
@@cobia1794 really? not composites but plastic? Just finished a honda 200 with plastic everything. have done many fourstrokes since this video with composite intakes and carb bodies.... hmm....
I have followed you Scott forever but just found your channel last week. Thank you for the videos, I stepped away from fishing for 9 years after my parents got a divorce. Well the past week I have had a line in the water for last last 6 days. You’re humble and a great person! Kelly Jordon is a great family friend who is another great pro I love. Thank you again Godbless and stay safe from COVID-19.
Scott, I run a 2019 Mercury 4.6L V8 Pro XS 250 on my ranger 620fs. I am very happy with the performance of this motor. For reliability time will tell.. so far no issues.. Awesome torque and light weight for a V8 four stroke. I have been very brand loyal to Evirude but decided to go with a higher performing 4 stroke due to having 3 Evinrudes in the past and all had VRO pumps fail as a result I blew the motors.
My dad runs a Yamaha SHO 250 on a 620fs he has been very happy with it. All things equal "prop pitch and load" the Mercury has more torque and gets on plane quicker. Once on pad they run about equal. Based on my experience, you cannot go wrong with either Mercury or Yamaha. I will always be an Evinrude fan. Sad to see them go.
Bull Shit four Strokes have been shoved down our throat 2 strokes are far Superior.
I love all your videos Scott. I’d love one of the vice-versa hats. You inspired me to start my own channel!
I’d go with a Mercury, good luck at the Bassmaster Open coming up! Cool hat Scott I would definitely wear one on my next fishing adventure!
I have a 2019 mercury 4 stroke on my current boat. It's spent a couple weeks in the shop since I've had it. Alternator went out, and it's had spurts of rough idle and even shutting off a couple times. My dad has a Yamaha Sho on his 721 with close to 400 hrs and no problems. When I order my new boat next year I'll be going Yamaha.
i just started fishing out of a boat 7 years ago and every boat has had a merc. i dont get enough time on the water as id like but i can say its nice to have a reliable motor so when i do have a chance to fish i havent had any issues with any of my merc's. I have had 2 new 4 strokes in the past 2 years. One on a 2019 nitro z21 elite and i purchased a 2020 ranger z521 L in december. Both came with the same merc 250 4 stroke and they have plenty of power and get on plain fast
From personal experience I would probably go with a Mercury. With that being said Yamaha is great as well. I completely agree with you, that most motors now days are pretty solid. Can’t really go wrong with most of them. I hope you find a motor right for you! Can’t wait to see more content! Keep up the great work!
I have owned Evinrude and Johnson since the mid 70's . One classic I continued to run for 35 yrs. I would always choose an American brand name and I think the G1 and G2 technology is great. It is sad to seen a legendary name name go down, not to mention all dedicated experienced personnel. I know their hearts and souls were in this product and likely were multi-generational employees. Sad for the communities where these families lived. I will continue to run my ETEC until either it or I give up the ghost.
Keep running your Evinrude. You've got 8-10 years. If busting a lower unit worries you....carry a spare.
I'm still running a 1989 XP for crying out loud 😅
Aside from it being a bit of a gas hog I certainly have no complaints. Evinrude always made solid motors that were built to last. So show everyone that you TRULY believe(d) in them. 👍
Man I've been way busy the last year but I'm so happy to be able to watch your videos again!!
Hey Scott I've been fishing now for around forty years. Most of that time was while I was growing up, fishing with my Dad. He always ran Johnsons and Evinrudes motors. Just like you said never had any problems with them. I myself now have had I think 6 different boats. All of them had Mercurys on them, both 2 stroke and 4 stroke and so far not one problem. So I guess I'm saying go with Mercurys. If I'm not just plum crazy I think they have been around more than the other guys. Oh yeah I really enjoy watching your videos and would love to have a hat. Tommy Gage Arkansas Fan.
Hey Scott!!! Yeah my heart sank when i heard there will no longer be an Evinrude outboard ever! They've been around for well over 100 years. I've ran one my entire life, and I've been on the water for over 40 years. That said, if you're going to re power, I would highly recommend Mercury. At least they've been in the business for years and know outboards. Not knocking the other brands, they learned from the best. And I'm sure Mercury would be an awesome sponsor...just saying. Thanks for the videos... Mike from Ontario, Canada
Scott, when I swapped motor brands 4 years ago, I had ran evinrude s on last 4 rangers I have owned. I looked at commercial captains, law enforcement, and guides at saltwater marinas. The reason was these people were going out into the ocean, they had to have a dependable motor to get back to land. Overwhelming was the number of Yamaha motors that were on these folks boats. I have been very satisfied with my Yamaha, good luck the rest of the year.
I absolutely love my Yamaha’s! From my duck boat to my pontoon, Yamaha has never left me stranded. Over the past 20 years I’ve never had a mechanical issue outside of normal services. You also mentioned offshore fishing. When visiting the coast it’s hard to notice all the boats hanging Yamaha out the back, speaks for itself.
I had a Yamaha for 10 years. Fished hard and it never let me down a single time. I had a couple issues with my Mercury.
Same but i had a evinrude and i just got a merc and second year we had it the whole motor blew
ive had 4 set on fire :(
I’ve run pretty much all brands, including Evinrude, Johnson, Mercury and Yamaha. Yamaha is by far the most dependable motor I’ve ever owned. I’ve run the 250 on a Ranger Z20 and currently run a 50 on my G3. From the smaller engine I run now to the 250, Yamaha can’t be beat, as reliable as they come.
Back in 2004, I bought a new G-3 HP 170 bass boat with 115 Yamaha 2 stroke & stainless prop. That was by far the most dependable outboard I ever owned.......well, that and the tiny Tohatsu 3.5 I bought new in 2016 for my little Twin Troller. I hear a lot of great things about Suzuki lately.......for their bigger outboards anyway.
Thanks for featuring my Instagram pictures!!! Absolutely made my year, I am such a huge fan!!! Keep doing you, Scott 👊🏼
Well Scott I just got a new boat with a mercury and I don’t know how the other brands are with this but I love the vessel view cause it tells you everything you need to know including faults so that gives me peace of mind when I’m on the water if there’s something major or miner with the motor and you can do multiple boats on one app but like I said I don’t know how the others are just a fruit for thought
I've been an optimax guy for years. I repowered my boat almost 2 years ago and had the option to go with the 4 stroke pro xs or a 2 stroke pro xs. I went with the 2 stroke for the simple fact, as you said, it's tried a true and not a single issue in 140 hours of service! Mercurys 4 stroke was new to the market and there all always unforseen issues that pop up on any new model anything. Whether it's a car, truck, boat and on and on. At this moment, if I had to choose a 4 stroke for my rig, I'd probably go with Yamaha. Reason being, they've been in the 4 stroke world just a little longer. Now 2 years from now, after Mercury has ample time on the water, I'd stick with Mercury!
I'm not bashing one over the other by any means. Both are great companies and have proven it for years. I know of a 250 SHO with well over a 1000 hours and not one significant problem. I also know of 2 stroke pro xs's with well over 1000 hours as well.
Kinda like fishing! Nothing but time on the water will make you better!
Just my 2 cents
no matter what anybody says the 4 stroke mercury is the best motor that has ever been made in my opinion. i have a 21ft 2020 triton and that motor has so much power to get those heavy hulls up and run a lot better and faster. i would imagine it would work really well with a ranger
Tru dat I have a 14 ft Jon boat and a 9.9 mercury the thing is a 2004 and it runs real good and it’s fast 25 mph on a 14 ft Jon boa crazy !!
Noooooooo
Fishingthe 256 why do you think that
i think when it comes to a motor it is what u hav the best luck with for me i had a ‘99 2 stroke yamaha 150 until 2011 and then i sold it to my cousin who still uses it to this day never had problems. then with my new boat in 2012 i got 150 merc 4 stroke and the 2 years that i had it it was in the shop 5 times thankful for the warranty and in 2015 went back to yamaha and havnt had any problems. now i get it i probably had a lemon and i understand they arnt all like that but it just left a bad taste and probably would never go back to mercury im still not bashing them just wouldnt b my choice thatz all
Congratulations to the winners. Hats look awesome.
Scott im sorry for loss man. I can only imagine what going through your head right now. Rest assured knowing that all the big players have solid products. I've run all the of the big 3. My latest purchase in May of 2019 was the 350 suzuki. Hands down my favorite engine. Got 212hrs on it so far and the performance of the twin props are awesome! Fuel economy is great, speed and power are awesome. This my 3rd suzuki and I can say, I've never had to do any major work to any of them compared to issues I had with mercury and Yamaha, and suzuki is a considerably lower priced unit and are a very solid product. I have a friend that has 4000 plus hrs on a 200 suzuki and its still running strong. Good luck and god speed! Keep up the great videos!
Mercury is what I run due to the fact it came on the boat ! Will be repowering to the proxs 250 V8 due to the fuel mileage an awesome reviews !!!
I bought a Skeeter in Nov 19 selling my 2018 Nitro Z9 250 ProXS. I love Mercury and i have ran them since the EFI back in the day. I really loved my 2 stroke 250 ProXS that i have owned 6 of them (i swap boats every year). I ran the v8 250 ProXS on the nitro and prior to that it was 2 stroke only. I really enjoyed the 18 250 ProXS but when i ran in a 20XD that was running a 250SHO i fell in love (we still own a 2015 Bullet 20XDC 250 ProXS and love it but it's our play boat and not our tourney rig). I have always wanted a Skeeter but running Nitro since Jan 2016 bullet from 2010 to 2015... So i decided to buy a 2019 ZX250 in Jan 2020. I have totally loved the SHO (i personally like it better then the ProXS 250 4 stroke) and the Skeeter hull. To be honest the SHO is just so crisp and smooth (not saying the ProXS isn't but the 2 stroke ProXS has a feel that the new ProXS lacks and the SHO feels very much like the optimax based ProXS 250 that i love so much)
Im sure you have ran in SHO powered hulls and I'm also sure that you love the 2stroke feel that you have been used to. You will truly love the SHO as its very very familiar vs the v8 merc lacks that even tho it's a beast and the torque is amazing but it just lacks the feel that I'm used to with the opti based 250 XS. Hubby and I are used to running high performance hulls (spending years in Bullet Hull as our full time bass rigs then changing to Nitro but still keeping a Bullet as a fun run boat) and we are very used to the power delivery and feel of the opti based motors and the new XS lack that feel (again please don't think im saying the V8 ProXS isn't an amazing outboard as it is. We run twin 400R on our Yellow fin and wouldn't change them for the world it's just a feel we are used to on bass rigs that turned us off to the New XS for that use) and the SHO feels as close to it as you can get, it's extremely responsive , revs high, sounds great, has a very high performance 2stroke like feel in the mid range (the part that made us go SHO) very good on fuel, super crisp trim response and quick. A 250SHO powered 20XD with 2 people and about 20 gallons of fuel was running 91MPH and our 2stroke 250ProXS Bullet with about the same fuel and loaded weight will run about 94mph so top end is close and believe it or not the SHO is slightly quicker from 30 to 70mph and so so so responsive in that range making the boat a total pleasure to run when the water vets nasty.
I really hate that i can't slap a brand new 250 ProXS 2 stroke on another rig as if i could i wouldn't run anything else but i can't so for now it's SHO... I really never thought the outboard hanging off the jack plate would ever be anything other then Mercury.
I highly recommend Mercury. My dad and I have had ours about 10 years and it is still kicking! Definitely recommend!
And I would love a hat!!!!
I got a 83 mariner 150 it's still kicking very well
Scott, I have been running the new mercury 4 stroke behind my boat and it runs amazing! The motor itself is just super quiet compared to other motors, the fuel efficiency on it is amazing and very easy to get in the motor to change oil or work on it! I will run it to the dam and down to War Eagle on Beaver Lake and only use a half a tank! It makes for such a smooth ride and just an all around good motor. I also ran evinrude before this new mercury and loved the evinrude and wanted to give the mercury a shot and have absolutely loved it ever since! It’s a really good motor!! But regardless, I love the channel and will keep watching all the videos because your content is amazing! Can’t wait to see you fishing bass tournaments again! One of my favorite professional anglers along with Jimmy and Roland!! Good luck with everything and wish you the best Scott!!
Watched your record setting video, it was awesome! You guys did great. Made the state of Florida proud.
Mercury has been the only motor I’ve gone with, on all my boats love them. Hopefully make down to Oklahoma and see you in action, sure would be cool to win a Vice versa hat
7 minutes in and still waiting for the eco rude info. FFS, come on man.
Sad news, been saving for quite some time just for a Envinrude engine on my next ranger.
Currently using Mercury Blackmax and it has been awesome for its age.
I’ve had my Evinrude 150 since 1998. Can’t tear it up!
Hey Scott, I would suggest Mercury. They have a long history of quality and reliability. Not to mention the fact that WHEN B. Lat's motor broke down they had him up and running by the next day so that he could continue the tournament.
They suck
yah they have a history of specifically being unreliable ha
yamaha is what you meant to say lol
Uhhh b. Lat runs Yamaha now
I'm sure he I well aware of merc. After all his father Roland ran mercs years and years.
What’s up scott im a big fan and was watching some of you’re old tournaments and I’ve been watching you for a while. Your a beast bro
I just subscribed because I also have a G2 E-Rude and LOVE IT. Thank you for explaining and love a hat as I collect them. I believe our BRP G-2's will hold up and Hopefully become collectors pieces.
Thanks again.
Been an Evinrude guy all my life. Last year, purchased a used boat with a Mercury (2-stroke) on it. That had more to do with the boat brand & model at the right price for me than the motor itself. My older boat with an Evinrude 48 SPL recently, acquired lower unit issues so, old faithful is down.
I believe You will do your diligence and research the avenues that apply to your situation and make the best decision possible for you, your business and your family.
Respectfully, JM
I've owned fresh water fishing boats of all sizes for almost 40 years. I've owned Johnson, Mercury, and Evinrude over the years, from 6hp up to 200hp. I'm currently running a Yamaha on my Skeeter (almost 10 years) and I have never run a more durable, reliable engine in my life. I tell my wife all the time, "please don't ever let me purchase any other outboard other than a Yamaha ever again". I feel that strongly about it. Just keep up with regular maintenance and I literally just turn the key and go. Never even have to think about it. That's my 2 cents Scott. Good luck with your decision.
Nothing comes close to Yamaha👌🏻
I have a 1984 40hp 2 stroke Johnson on my 1984 Traveler bass boat that does the same thing. Keep up with regular maintenance and turn the key. Starts in seconds... every...single...time. Don't know what I will do if it ever gives out, maybe get a Yamaha?
@@JohnonUtube68 I had the same in 50hp, upgraded to a 40 Yam 4stroke, the best thing I have ever done. Super quiet, you'll wish you had done it earlier, if you ever do! Don't quote me, but I believe Yam made powerheads for Merc for some time!
Talking about motor brands, I’ve never had any major problems that weren’t my fault with any Yamaha motor I’ve owned. We have a sea hunt bx24 with a 08 Yamaha I believe, and it’s been on there since we bought the boat used and never had a single problem. Also I have a 2018 skeeter zx200 with a Yamaha vmax SHO that has also never had a single problem. However the previous bass boat I had was an ‘00 nitro nx750 with a ‘01 mercury tracker motor, the starter went out. And even though it was an older used motor it still happened and for me I’ll never run anything other than a Yamaha. It’s like the Chevy and Ford of boat motors, it’s truly whatever you like better, they both are strong right now and both are good options, I just prefer the Yamaha (and chevy)
yamaha makes good stuff. Growing up I always had Kawasaki, but now I have almost all yamaha. I have a YXZ, Waverunner, boat, and even the outboard on my bass boat are all yamaha. Never really had problems with any of them.
Scott I was chartering on the Indian river in the Sebastian area. I ran a Yamaha 150. I put over 2500 hours on that motor with no problems at all, I eventually left chartering back in 2010 during the housing crash as chartering took a big. I actually sold the boat to a friend and he is still running that motor with over 3,000 hours. I have just started bass fishing and just bought a Bass Tracker 17 with a 50 horse Mercury. I was kind of really wanting a Yamaha but they come with the Mercs. Since having the boat the motor has been very good with over 100 hours no issues so far. The one thing that help sell me on the Merc was the warranty program and the ability to extend it out. I figured with the warranty they are offering and the extension they also off at a nominal price would keep me covered with no worries for years to come. I also would think with offering those long warranties they must have a real belief in the long term performance of the motors they manufacture. P.S. Thanks so much for all the videos you do on fishing g as they have helped my wife and I catch more bass and have shortened are learning curve. (J.C.) Henderson
That was a great update Scott. You won't have an issue with getting a new motor sponsor you have been dedicated to Evinrude for all the right reason for a long time. Your new motor sponsor will get the same dedication and all that you bring to the table. Thanks for sharing the story. Oh and I would love a hat.
Well my uncle won’t be happy after hearing this
I'm an Evinrude guy, but after having high hopes when they introduced the G2 and saw the price, I was expecting this, In my opinion you don't come with a high tech two stroke with a bad stigma from the resent past and a market focusing on four stroke only with the highest prices in the industry, I honestly thought that Evinrude was going to attack the market like Suzuki did , till people got used to the new two stroke and have people talk about it and to build up the trust and pick up a market share, but no, they just came out with the most expensive out board in the market, while every body and their cousin was still tacking about the Ficht every time some one mentioned an evinrude, well good luck to all the customers with the new and abandoned G-2, i hope soon they can start again with at least a new 4 stroke but with a better price and marketing idea, because even if they start rebranding Yamahas the competition will be calling it two strokes to keep up with the bad stigma they had. Folks that is only my opinion.
Many years ago the first bass boat I owned was a Triton with a Mercury 125. Thanks to your endorsement I'm waiting on a Skeeter with the Yamaha 250 and I'm very excited to get on it!
Hey Scott! Mike Wood again...meant to mention, I currently run 4 quite old Mercs over 100hp and absolutely love them. They run so sweet.
The motor you got will last forever, I still have a 1983 Johnson that runs perfectly !
1982 Johnson 35 here runs like a mule!
I got Evinrude 48 SPL from 1987 👍
1983 15hp and 25hp still run like champs
Still running a 1972 lightwin 4
'79 Johnson 70HP with lots of life left
We’ve ran a yamaha on our boats for as long as I can remember. I could say that the SHO is the best motor out there right now. In my opinion they are the most reliable motors and have great service!
Never had issues with yamahas
Hey bro, awesome vids man. Ive learned a lot from ya. Thanks for doing your part in the fishing industry. Love the Vice Versa hats. Great job brother.
I’m running a Suzuki and I Absolutely Love it. No issues whatsoever super quiet, fuel efficient, and plenty of bottom! I think they are making a come up in the 4 stroke world. I know they are in the Catfishing tournament scene.
Any mercury four stroke is a good replacement I think.
Agree
I love you Scott you are the man🔥💯
Hey Scott you have the best fishing 🎣 channel hands down . Keep it up and God bless you and your family
Yo hats off on that one 76 in one day is a miracle day of fishing. That's crazy and good stuff keep it up man
Yamaha is amazing they have a lot of power and I’ve never had a problem with them they make great freshwater and saltwater engines as well. That blue and gray hat looks great btw
FYI, the SHO from 200 hp through 300 hp are essentially the same engine with a different ECU flash. Considering your fleet of engines, support and spare parts may be virtually interchangeable reducing your overall costs. Love my 200 SHO.
We got 3 Yamahas and they never have gave us any issue Yamaha is by far the best.
Hey Scott I know, I don’t need to tell you anything about how to run a business. But I would go with who can offer the the best deal. You do this for a living so in the end it’s about what they can do to help you to keep being successful.
Hey Scott missed you smc camo hat sale. When are they going back up for sell? Thanks.
I have a 2005 225 HO eTec and I've never touched it except for preventative maintenance and computer updates. I'm waiting on a new prop now but it may be a while. My tech at Shoals Marine in North Alabama told me they had 18 deaths at the plant in Wisconsin due to covid 19 but they would open back up for parts. It's been a great motor and i'll run it until it falls apart.
Honestly I've been evinrude my whole life however I am going to have switch to mercury. Seem to be killing it
Scott, I'm shocked and heartbroken to hear about Evinrude. We all grew up with Evinrude and Johnson.
As far as a recommendation for your future outboard sponsorship, I have felt for quite a long time that Honda is a tremendously underleveraged outboard brand. As we all know, Honda makes some high quality and dependable motorized products....from lawn mowers, generators, motorcycles, and ATV's to high end automobiles. There is absolutely no reason that their outboards should not be a leading premier brand. A rock solid guy like yourself could help them achieve the status and success that they should have and deserve. That's my 2 cents and I hope this all works out for you....I am confident that it will.
I got a 1986 Evinrude 90hp v4 and love it, was looking to upgrade to a 90HO
Love that style of cap. Love the camo and bright blue one
Mercury there very smooth and plenty of power
I have one they have MORE than plenty of power😂
Yamaha better
There is only 1 brand of outboard motor-Mercury. When we had boat racing-and I'm talking 40' cats in the ocean to 18' cats going around in circles-what brand dominated the whole field? What brand and what manufacturer helped racing more? Only 1.
Talk to Earl Bents and his buddy who started the big ocean speed boats. They started in the 1950's racing in a NC river. I wish I could remember that guys name but you can find it.
Any way they are innovators. TheSe guys are real gear heads. Hell I am also into Hot Rods, Mercury Marine sells a Mercury marine sells a V-8 that puts out over a 1000HP that me or Any body else who has the $ can buy and put in there car. Complete engine. Plug and play.
Listen to Me.
Other brands want to make share holders $. And yes Mercury wants to make $. But that is not there sole purpose. They have Government contracts that make them $.
I'm done preaching.
Just buy a Mercury.
I'm be the first guy to put a 400R on a bass boat!!!🤣🤣
Monte my friends dad has a basscat Jaguar with a 450r
I’m a big fan of you Scott you should come fish here in South Africa 🇿🇦
again
Are white farmers still being killed off? No thanks
@@case8987 yes they are.
Tristan Wood then I suggest SMC to stay out of a racist place like that. You’ll never see that on the main stream media. Blacks killing whites because of their skin color.
@@case8987 sounds like whats happening up there too...
Those hats are dopppeee! Lemme get on of those! Thanks for the videos Scott Martin, I’ve really been enjoying them
I've been running a Mercury for the last 15 years without a problem. However I wanted to repower with a new E Tec. Now this. I like more competition, keeps it fair
I grew up with all my family having Mercury’s with 0 issues. I’m sure Yamaha is good too but I personally think mercury that new v8 is insane
Bass slayer 365 we are a Mercury family also. We had a Johnson 85 as kids in the 70’s but since then it has been Mercury.
Mercs are junk .. you’ll see that the commercial salt water guys all buy Suzuki or Yamaha only ,cause their livelihood depends on it .. salt kills these motors and the last two years Flw ,and bass pros have had more break downs than the g2 ..
Hi love your vids also you should try to fish in Nebraska for bass good vid.
Go mercury ave the 200 0n my z19 awesome
What reels you would suggest to use with the new pro series rods
Probably the most advanced outboard made. Another company will probably buy Evinrude and crank it up again.
Let's be honest. You will go with whoever gives you the best monetary deal.
I could have put a Suzuki on the transome for less. But that thought never crossed my mind.
But, .maybe the comment about going with the best price is generally true. Sad stuff.
I saw where BRP signed a contract with Mercury. Can’t go wrong with a Mercury !!
No disrespect meant, but where have you been? Because BRP has been the parent company of Mercury, Evinrude, and Tohatsu FOR YEARS. And when it comes to the tiny outboards, if you buy a Mercury or Evinrude, you're actually getting 100% Tohatsu, ( same with the Evinrude 3.5, it's actually a 4-stroke Tohatsu ) and for good reason. When it comes to the small outboards, Tohatsu can't be beat. Tohatsu is the oldest Japanese outboard manufacturer........even older than Yamaha. But they were only known for smaller to mid size outboards. I bought a 2016 Mercury 3.5 new for my little Twin Troller, and it's 100% Tohatsu, they simply slapped a Mercury decal on the cowl cover, no kidding. Love this little motor. Starts right up every time, and never once has it sputtered, missed, or popped. Other than a Yamaha 115 two stroke I bought new in 2004 as a G-3 bass boat, motor, trailer package, it has been the most dependable outboard I've ever owned......and I've owned quite a few outboard brands & sizes over the years, including Evinrude and Mercury, in sizes from 115, 90, 50, and 40 hp. The only 2 that never gave me any trouble whatsoever was my Yamaha 115 and this tiny Tohatsu.
@@howabouthetruth2157 BRP is not a parent company of Mercury or Tohatsu. Mercury and BRP have just had Tohatsu make some of their smaller motors under their own brand name. Primarily due to cost, Tohatsu pumps out a lot of the smaller motors at a low cost. Doesn't really pay for Mercury and Evinrude to make their own that small.
I was in denial that this day would come, but it was inevitable ever since the Ficht debacle and OMCs bankruptcy. It is unfortunate that BRP couldn’t or wouldn’t spend the cash necessary to compete with Yamaha and Mercury because it really was a great product.
Most of the small dealers got shafted by OMC and ran straight into the arms of Yamaha and never came back.
In lake markets, where small motors rule, the BRPs were Tohatsu so you might as well save a few $ and buy a merc from bass pro.
In saltwater, BRP was slow on tech like joysticks and never developed the high hp motors everyone wants now.
I guess you just can’t make a profit with pontoon motors.
@@sdvten Ya know, I got Brunswick confused with BRP, lol. But don't assume "the only reason for "Mercatsu" and "Evintsu" small outboards exist, due solely to cost"........because everyone knows who has been manufacturing the very best small outboards for years. My outboard tech ( Barry of Barry's Boat Works. Everyone in or near Brevard Co Florida who uses Barry once for ANY outboard, never does business with anyone else again ) says Tohatsu is the only company who "went the other way" when it came to their approach for engineering small outboards. They didn't obsess with "lets make the best fuel economy in the market".........We're talking about tiny motors to begin with. My buddy sees more small Honda's & Suzuki's come into his shop ( among the tiny outboards ) all the time with problems of not running or hard starting. He said their ports & carbs are so ridiculously small, he doesn't see how the hell they run to begin with. But Tohatsu allows their small designs to actually breathe, with bigger ports & carbs on the same size motors. I swear by my little 3.5 "Mercatsu". This damned thing is as reliable as my 2004 Yamaha 115 was. You can run this tiny motor all day, and you'll never hear it miss once. Let it sit for 4 months, and the damned thing starts on the 3rd or 4th pull, no joke. Once it's warmed up.......1st start, every time. And I run regular Sunoco. Not "ethanol free". But I do use fuel stabilizer, as everyone should.
Mercurys are junk.. Suzuki all the way.
I was a big Johnson/Evinrude guy back in the day with Stratos.. I have been running Mercury now for 19 years, and absolutely love the performance, especially now with the V8 250! You won’t be disappointed either way you go I believe.? Anyway, Scott good luck with his year!
Well from an all salt water standpoint, there is a lot of choices like you said and for me I’d have to say Suzuki outboards. I have twin 2007 175hp Suzuki outboards on our 25ft offshore boat and they have just surpassed 1,100 hours on each motor. The only problems that we have had with them was the throttle cable snapped while 20 miles offshore and one of the latches froze up and would not open to remove the cowling. But we never replaced the cable for a long time till it snapped and it was original from 07.
SHO. Yamaha has always had the most dependable motor with a great support service. That’s one reason I’ve always bought Skeeters. From bow to motor, all the same company.
Ask the googan squad guys how their merc perform. They seem to like them
We ran a Tohatsu for 19years and never once had a problem we have switched to Yamaha now and love it also
I run a new 4 stroke mercury and have had two recalls in a year but love the motor and they were minor issues but love the sho and Yamaha ls as well
Go w Yamaha, both of our motors are 04’s have 3100 hrs and both run flawlessly
Gotta Go American I mean I live in America so I wouldn't just say screw America USA or get the F out
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Might not be American but it's made in America and hire American workers 👍
I really wanna know what happened to Brandon. Need more “spinner worm” lol
Big Johnson finally bit the dust. Went with a Suzuki 250 DF AP fly by wire. Absolutely love it!
I’ll be at the Arkansas River as a co angler, it’s my first big tournament lookin forward to meeting y’all!
I would have a Yamaha every time I watch someone on tv or on CZcams Their mercury is broke down
I got a 250 sho on a skeeter fxr 20........one hell of a motor she is strong and reliable. ....
Let's hear some examples of all these broke down Mercs on youtube.
I have always used mercury, never had any issues. And who doesn’t like free hats, that camo mesh is cool never seen that before
I bought a 2003 Skeeter with a 2003 Yamaha HPDI 175 hp motor brand new. I fish 1-3 times a week including cold weather. I truly can say I’ve never had any problems out of that motor and I am hell on equipment! Wide ass open from point a to b!!! It may break down tomorrow but I would go buy another one in a heartbeat!!!!!
Definitely need one of those hats. Love the crossed hooks.
Choosing a new motor, I went with a Yamaha SHO due to their reliability reputation. For some reason I feel you're going to go Suzuki as they're growing in popularity and looking for big names to represent their product. Evinrude was in your heart and we can see that. Continue to follow it.
Definitely Suzuki everyone that has one I know says they are possibly the best outboards made and fuel economy is crazy good with this things too
I would put quad 300 Yamaha on the freeman. We have a 202 30 foot seahunt with twin 300s and they push the boat to low 60s. They are fuel efficient and super quiet. Then we have a 2019 22 express with a 175 sho and that motor pushes the boat to low 60s also. So I think that’d be. The choice.
We run a mercury on our boat and it runs great and my buddy runs a Yamaha and it runs great. I think the motors today are flawless I think it's more on the support your gonna get from the company which comes
any will support you. We are here to watch u and help out love the smc. Keep up the good work and fish on!!!
I've been using Evenrude outboards since the early 80's. Never had any problems. I even have the same outboard that was on my grandfather's boat. (1980's Seabrease trihull) 75hp. Guess I'll be rebuilding it instead of doing a Merc repower.
Run a Yamaha, what I have seen and heard it is a good one, but that mercury has had problems in my history
I had a yamaha 90 for years ran the hell out of it here in the texas coast. Sold it to another friend that put it on a aluminum center console an with just plugs an regular tuneups still running like the day i bought it in 2000! I now have a 115 yamaha sho and will never use another brand. 8 out of 10 guides run yamahas
I love my Yamaha SHO, I had used Mercury's for years but now Yamaha man. There fast, smooth, quite, and most of all reliable!
Yamaha or Suzuki.. only way to go.
From Edmonton Alberta Canada 🇨🇦!! Huge fan, 18 years old and your videos keep life positive!! TEAM MARTIN for life!!
I’ve had mercury engines all my life! Great reliability with excellent service.
I’d go with mercury marine my dads a commercial fisherman and he has a mercury four stroke and he runs it every day and has no problems what so ever
Complete opposite results from what I have had. I have bought my first and last Mercury.
Up here in Cape Cod Yamaha is king in both fresh and salt water
yamaha should be anyones 1st choice salt or frest water if money isnt a issue - also resell with yamahas is much better at least here in the midwest used boats with yamahas might last a couple days anything else likely to sit a while
Go Mercury and keep supporting us Wisconsinites 🇺🇸
Hope you can figure out everything with the motors. Keep up the great videos!
This just makes me extremely sad
Why doesn’t anyone run Honda Marine, everyone runs them everywhere else in the world. They’re reliable and their new models of 3.6 liter Vtec engines look real nice.
I have 3 evinrudes 35 horse 25 horse and 5.5 horse iam glad to hear they are still making parts aleast for a while
I love my Suzuki 90 4 stroke! 11 years and she is still going strong!!
I just replaced an OMC 90 horse ocean runner made in 2000 (non fitch) that spent its whole life in the chesapeake and the ocean.
Got another evinrude last week for a phenomenal deal, about 3000 less than msrp.