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Frustrated that you can't seem to remember a piece you learned a month, year or several years ago? This piano tutorial video is for you. Watch and learn the methods how piano players learn their pieces and retain them in their memory. And watch until the end for the 3 tips on how you can do the same.
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0:00 Intro
1:36 How do pianists learn their pieces?
1:52 Method 1
2:16 Method 2
4:30 Method 3
5:45 Three Tips on How to Learn & Never Forget
5:50 Tip Number 1
6:36 Tip Number 2
7:05 Tip Number 3
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Handy đ Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:36 How do pianists learn their pieces?
1:52 Method 1
2:16 Method 2
4:30 Method 3
5:45 Three Tips on How to Learn & Never Forget
5:50 Tip Number 1
6:36 Tip Number 2
7:05 Tip Number 3
This was such an excellent video!! I have this problem all the time... I generally program my brain to memorise pieces from learning the sheet music, or watching a tutorial video and memorising the chord shapes. I don't sight read, I just use the sheet music to tell my fingers what to play. I generally use a combination of muscle memory and auditory information to memorise a piece, and then chuck the sheet music away. I have found that the quicker I memorise a piece, the quicker I'm able to forget it afterwards. It can be frustrating losing the ability to play pieces that we may have worked on for months, only to forget them again months later. I dare say, if I got out the sheet music again, and refreshed my memory how they go, I could pick them up again fairly quickly. I've found if I spend some time analysing the structure of a piece, it really helps to cement it in my brain better, and I can pick up pieces more easily from the various sections. I will definitely give your tips a go, to help memorise pieces better!!
Youâre an excellent teacher. You pinpointed the problem which I have for years - forgetting the pieces I once played very well. Thank you for breaking it down to three different types of learning. The suggestion of starting the practice from different places of the piece should really work for me.
I felt the same..starting at random place is awesome suggestion.
It works!
I think you missed at least one other aspect of memory, that I feel could be important, and I know I use it a lot: visual memory. Not only of the keys, positions of my hands and fingerings, but also of the sheet music. The 3 aspects you mentioned are of course super important. Good video.
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I started lessons after I retired and I love it. Although you are much younger than I am I find your methods to be excellent. I have viewed your videos for a while now but never subscribe d to the channel. I am no longer taking live lessons so using the internet is my only resource. I plan to resume my lessons at some point in time, but until them Iâll be watching your videos.
Thank you for giving such good advice to all of us at any ability. Iâm an adult restarting after 30 years. Your advice is helping me correct old bad habits.
Same here, invaluable advice from Jazer!
Me, too. Recovering from hand surgery and getting up to speed again. Always had problems memorizing.
âSpot onâ/âNailed itâ once again, Jazer! Thanks for another great tutorial.
Thank you Jazer. You know exactly what beginners like me are going through. With this video, you have addressed the issues I was havingâŠI heavily relied on muscle memory thatâs why I forgot. I started doing last week of July the tips you mentioned here. You make me feel good and this video affirms that Iâm on the right track. You are the best online piano teacherđđđ. Thank you so much đ
Another excellent video, definitely the best piano channel on yt
This is exactly the type of advice I've been looking for, I've forgotten pieces in the past. I will definitely apply this to my practise sessions. Thank you Jazer!
Excellent tips. Thank you so much
Your overview was really insightful. Iâm in my second year of lessons (Iâm 72 years old). Learning pieces by memory is daunting. Your lesson will help me as I develop.
Your videos are so good. Thank you.
And it's awesome.. exactly what I gone through and learnt over the past 4years..thanks.
great systematic work. Thank you. Wonderful to hear you talk about the process taking 2-3 years. So many parents expect the teacher to weave some kind of magic and get the child from zero to Grade 8 in no time
Thanks, Jazer.
Wonderfully explained Jazer!
Excellent video. Have discussed this with mentors over the years, but never received this wide insight to the problem of coming back to pieces and feeling as though I've never played them before
you're very inspiring !
Holy Smoke Jazer... That is insane.. You are very experienced and talented xx
Great video! You've been a great resource for my learning. I'm almost finished learning Moonlight Sonata's First movement after starting my piano journey a few months ago! I will definitely use these tips to reinforce my learning!
Always interesting, thanks for sharing your so great experience.....
Whenever i had problems with my piano lesson in my mind, your video always come on the right time.. thank you
Your short lessons are wonderful! A brief reminder of what I've learned so far, but also a brief emphasis on a beginner's sore spotsđ. Thank you very much!
WOW I realize now how much muscle memory I use. i wish I wouldâve known about thinking about the chords earlier. Hmm I will try this. When I was younger I remembered so much easier. This gives me hope to really remember now. Thank you. đź
Thank you Jazer. Even thoâ I started studying piano at 8 years old for 12 years and have played most all of my life. I am getting back to it after carpal tunnel surgery, both hands. The O.Therapist says piano playing is the best exercise. My biggest problem is memorizing and I would love more lessons on that. I have started the Bach prelude C minor, 2 bars at a time. Very slow going. I am also working to get back my octaves and 9ths in the Moonlight Son. Iâm hanging off the front of the keys when I can . I play the Solfigetto by memory from my lessons and I can start anywhere in it. Itâs a great warmup. I love your videos and find them inspiring and the challenges are fun, easy for me. I am using them for the one student I am working with. I think your teaching is the best Iâve found on CZcams. Thanks again. FYI, I also studied harmony and music copying (the old calligraphy way) and I won the Best Keyboard Student prize at my college!
Well spoken! It make sense, it has practical value.
Awesome video! Thank you!
You are a great teacher!! I love your videos and I really appreciate that you share this knowledge with us!!
As always: instructions of great practical value! Thank you!!!đđ»đđ»đđ»
Nicely explained. I'd add - transposing phrases in different keys really helps to memorize pieces a lot!
This video is so helpful!! Thank you, Jazer.
This was exactly what I needed to watch today to help me think about what I need to do to improve. Thank you!
Everyone should see this video! It bundles so much information that is relevant for every level piano player! (I'm definitely guilty of relying too much on muscle memory)
Very helpful .I face issue all the time
This is a very encouraging video for us beginners. Thank you!
Totally agree about understanding your pieces to some level where your applying music theory (even if itâs just underlying chord changes). I only really began doing this into my 3rd year of playing. It not only helps retain the piece when coming back to it, but actually helps learn new pieces faster since your looking at it through a different lens. Great advice, Jazer!
This is great advice, thank you
I really need this tip đ
Thank-you Jazer, l'm only a self learning beginner. Your tutorials have been really helpful for me more than any other resource that l use. I struggle to remember pieces that l learn even completely forgetting them altogether. Thanks for posting this tutorial đ
I appreciate your thorough coverage as usual. You are really unpacking the mystery associated with playing the piano. Thanks a ton.
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Thank you sir. Such a great lesson i learn today.
Thank you .i found this very helpful. đ
Yay.
This is a lot to think about.
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Great video! Those ideas are important. I would only add that while it's not necessary to practice every piece every few days or so, I find it's useful to pull them out at least every few months and practice them for a few days. If you let them go for several years, the process of relearning will be longer even if you understand the music theory because the muscle memory part will have many more holes in it (sometimes completely gone). I'm going through that now after not playing for several years. On the good side, it does force you to go back to the sheet music!
The advice you gave a very practical and sensible. Thank you.
Thank you Jazer!
Once again Jazer -- brilliant advice! After a long hiatus I am now trying to play pieces that I had previously memorised (muscle memory), and after the first few bars the rest has disappeared. So I will now go back and look closely at the music and try your tips to help bring them back. Thanks again.
You are a great teacher. Please teach us theory also.
I am so totally the person who, when my teacher asked me to replay a difficult section, I had to start at the beginning. I always thought it was a good thing to have muscle memory because it helped me learn a piece, but I can see now that it can hold me back. đ
Thank you. Thank you. I am going to apply to my đ·
Hi, thanks For the video. Very useful! Greets
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Very helpful. Thanks,
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Very engaging! If we view practising as a process of 're-learning' music, as opposed to straightforward repetition, it becomes constructive as well as productive - and consequently rewarding!
very usefull thanksđđđ
Thanks for the video. As a much much older student of the piano, I would say a fourth aspect is to stay young. An aging mind tends to be a forgetful mind, right, easier said than done. However it does seem like the pieces that do stay with me are those I've explored from several points of view. Feels like you've given really good advice.
Thank you for this video. It is amazingly accurate. One thing I have noticed, ironically, the more difficult and intricate sections of the piece, I can play very easily many monthls later. But the more basic sections I tend to forget. This is because when I learn the piece, I stare at the sheet music and remember the chord names for the complex sections because I absolutely need to be able to play them smoothly in the first place. For the simple sections, 1 or 2 attempts at it with muscle memory is enough to learn those sections the first time, therefore, I don't have those 3 methods engrained in my head like for the more complex sections. This really explains so much!
Good one.
Exelent teaching, Thanks I like your video's. I have made a daily week list with some music partitions placed in it. Partitions can be removed or added after some time time, so there is always something new and it doesn't get boring to always play the same songs.
I a song i want to learn better so i can place this partion on several days in the weeklist.
Natural language is an interesting analogy. Then again most speakers donât know a squat of the syntactical or semantical rules but speak a language fluently. Thatâs also interesting. They just ramble on and on and on :)
Keep up the good work youâre Iâm excellent pedagogue
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Just what i need
I always forget them after learning another piece and not playing the one before
im rlly lacking with chords, ur explain rlly well and ur explanations are easy to understand, can u pls make a video on chords?
Thank you for the tips on chords. đI always tend to forget my left hand. There is some muscle memory, but not completely.
Thats all nice and good for easier pieces. I can play fĂŒr elise and turkish march quite well after half an hour. But more complicated fugues are doomed if you dont play them for longer
It seems I'm using all three methods. Aurally works very well for me, esp for pop pieces, which I typically learn by ear anyway. Another trick that works well for classical music is recognizing repeating patterns in it and how these connect together (and how they repeat) to form the entire piece.
Thanks for the valuable advice. I always have problem memorizing music, relying soling on what you called "muscle memory". Plus a little bit of aural memory. I agree that music theory help. And I need to develop that skill. This is brilliant.
Hi I really like the way you teach
Thank you for your kind words. đ€
Absolutely love your video's, you've taught me so much!
Do you have a video somewhere on the outro you do at the close of each video? Swear ive watched it before but cant seem to find it anymore đą
That's actually such a good advice to actively know the chords that are played! I always found it so much harder to remember a piano piece one on guitar. But thinking about it, it's because on guitar, the chords that are played are always mentioned. Dang I feel kinda stupid now I've been trying to teach myself how to play piano for some time now but never felt like I made any process and forgot everything. I feel kind of stupid now because at the end this is a simple answer to just know the chords :D
Good grief, when did we meet??? This is me 100%
Thank you for this video!!@!
Great video, Jazer. And I agree totally about learning music theory.
This week I've started to learn Rule of the Octave. And I'm trying to get more comfortable with figured bass. I've seen it, I can do it, but it isn't deeply rooted as a reflex.
You might want to do a video on the Italian Partimento, and their practice of teaching music to orphans to become music maestri. Bach was deeply knowledgable about it's principles and it became the basis for all the teachings of the Paris Conservatory.
I wish I was as smart as a 7 year old Italian child.
You are amazing ! I have a wonderful teacher but you seem to have helped me bring everything my teacher has taught me altogether. Question: Help with actually having confidence to play for people somehow I play the piece really well by myself and then fall apart when playing for others. Thank you! thoroughly enjoy your u tubes
I've had three permanent instructors in 11 months. The first was to best. I could stick with him for years, but I think he specializes in beginners, he sticks strictly to the book and progress is slow. Also, with one, I'd be limited by his style and what he can teach me. The second I had to leave because he challenged me to go from crawling to running. I became inconsistent and thought about quitting every week. Maybe I can circle back to him in a year. My third instructor is probably technically the best for an intermediate students, but it's becoming more business than pleasure. I'm enjoying learning despite my lessons. Maybe that's how it is after leaving a beloved teacher and transitioning up a level.
Do you refer students to other instructors even though they second guess everything and won't enjoy it as much if it's for the best? I mean, at the end of the day isn't practice work and don't you do it even when you don't feel like it? Any student can suffer from Big Shoes [to fill] syndrome, but is there a time when we should carry on solo? There are a lot of CZcams videos after all.
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Great Video J! I'm currently learning with Adult piano adventures book 2. I like what you mention about how understanding music theory can help you to secure pieces. I'm in the section of major and minor triads, the books says I should memorize them, and the professor in the video for that section says that triads are like the vocabulary for western music, could you elaborate on that and any tips on how to memorize M and m triads? Thank you and keep up the good work! Salute from đČđœ
this is literally the most important video ive ever needed in playing, my biggest problem more than anything is i have a memory of 2 seconds, musically and not
This is what i need. I do instrumental cover for around 100+ songs, but i forgot them (arrangements) after a week. đđđ
This is an excellent video with great tips for everyone who plays. I learn so much with every one of your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Maybe something for a future video. I have small hands for an adult, and in some pieces, like Moonlight Sonata, I struggle reaching two keys at once, greater than an octave apart. Any advice? I played from small age, stopped in teen years and began again in mid adulthood so I know Iâve got some ability to overcome this, just uncertain howâŠ
Lower your wrist and place your hand away from the keyboard ("outside" of the keyboard) instead of above it, to reach an octave plus one key even with small hands. Also practice will improve it. With time the fingers sort of "spread" and are able to reach wider.
It would be so helpful if you can make a video on explaining different genres style playing.
No one can do it better than you that's for sureâ€ïžâ€ïž.
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Thank you so much for your videos. Iâm with you since starting playing piano last year. What book do you recommend for theory that helps beginners/ intermediate players?
What about The Complete book of scales, chords, arpeggios and cadences by Palmer? And Improve Your Sight-reading by Harris?
Thanks for the tutorial. I was wondering if you would recommend to practice the left and right hands separately and master the piece for each hand first or learn directly with both hands. I have noticed that I memorize more easily when I watch my hands playing together on the keyboard especially when the chords are no tonal or reversed (that's why I would add the visual memory in the tuto...). I agree that may "sound" strange for a musician.... Thanks !
Any tips for learning chords, harmony and structure. Cause I donât know how to start from scratch đ
Since I've restarted playing after a 50 year gap, I've made it a point to play all new music. (My childish books and Hanon did not spark joy.) Recently I've tried playing scales, which I know I did as a teen, but find I have no muscle memory of them at all. There have been a couple of old pieces I've tried, but it's truly a matter of relearning them, with correct fingering, rather than rushing through to get them over with by the next lesson.
Thanks for the video. Very very useful. Can you advise how to learn theory? I have a good understand of scales but not of chords. Thanks for any advise. Take care
I am only a few months into my journey, and rely đŻ on muscle memory. Glad to hear this is quite normal.
Any recommendations for a good chord book would be welcome.
Thanks
Thank you sir,Please help ,how better can one play church hymns?
Hahaha. If you asked me play a piece from the mid section i wouldn't be able to do it! Had to play it from the iconic start! Hehehe
The touch sense can be unreliable. Though itâs very important. What about the important Visual memory ? That is, knowing exactly which notes to play by KNOWING which notes come next. I believe in reading the music away from the keyboard as well to enhance the memory. The technical muscle memory will prove to boost the ability to support the Visual memory.
I have a question. How do you learn the first part of Fantasie-Impromptu in C Sharp Minor(Chopin)? (Is it just repeated practice over time? Because the tempo is fast or is it technical? Thank you!
I first learned pieces by memorizing measure by measure. I was able to perform multiple pieces without the score in front of my eyes -- but I was a terrible sightreader. I learned Beethoven's Pathétique by memorization, and it stuck with me for many years. I could always play it without the sheet in front of me. Even now, rememorizing it is fast. I then started learning pieces by sightreading from beginning to end. I learned the Appassionata that way. I never memorized it. I always had to read it while playing it. Now my brain is addicted to reading and playing from beginning to end. I find it impossible to repeat segments multiple times. I can't play anything without reading it -- except for pieces I memorized decades ago. When my eyes get to sore from hours of reading as I practice, I then play something I memorized, or almost memorized in the past.
Personally I think I have a general understanding of music theory on paper or when I read a sheet, but I canât apply it when I play. Do you have any suggestions to blend music theory in my playing?
At the beginning what is the 3rd piece your playing?
As a beginner I sometimes find myself struggling to move my hands up and down the keyboard during the flow. Any tips on this please?
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The best feeling is doing a solo recital and then getting to drop all the repertoire. The worst feeling is trying to pick it all back up lol